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Guys i m new i want to know why people make a trading signal channel what the purpose ??

and what you guys think about crypto trading channel ?

For money :)
1- They have VIP option that is paid. (money)
2- group members are pushing price higher. (money)
3- If group is big enought signal is not nessesary. Group is pumping price. Thats how many signal groups converts to pump and dump groups. Admin of this group of cours buys beafore signal and dump on group members (even more money)

Using signal goups in pointless because you will never learn to trade. When you will make waste trade you will blame leaders and all you will learn from this is that this group is not legit, lets jump to another. Do your own trades. Even if you are unexperienced. Chose lowest possible bid (0,001 btc in binance ~ 8$) and make as mannny mistakes as possible. Learn from each and be better from every.
After few days you will say : i've lost 10$ but learned this and this and this
after few weeks you will say : i've earned 20$ but ive learned this and this and this
after few month you will increase bit and say ; I've earned 2000$ and still learned this and this

What would you say after few month trading by telegram signals?
I learned that this and this and this group is not legit, this is quite good but im still on big waste.  (if you will find 1 legit)

"Trading Signals" channels are basically pump and dump groups. They buy a certain low-cap coin/token, then tell their followers to buy this certain coin/token hence the price goes up. Then, they sell for a profit. That's pretty much it. In a group such as this, only the higher ups make profit. The one's that follow gets fucked up.

No they are not.

Pump and dump groups gives signal at specyfic time anounced weeks beafore to collect as much volume as possible. To make sure that everyone is ready to buy at 20:00. Not 21:00 or 22:00 or even 20:15 when he get to computer and realise that there was a signal.

Signal groups are just giving singals when its "good time to buy"

Pump and dump groups needs at liest 10 000 members online

Signal groups dont. But when they get that much members can convert (but dont have to)

Pump and dump groups pump low volume, low marketcap coins that are easy to pump at current moment (low walls). (they wont pump and dump bitcoin/ripple or any other big coin)

Signal groups gives signal at any coin.

Join at liest one pump and dump group and signal group beafore posting about them.

Trading signals are not all is good sometimes it causes of wrong signal to other people which rely solely on trading signals.
It's better to avoid on it and learn it from your self on how to trade.

It completely depends on the groups. They could call their groups fuck-what but they pretty much have the same end goal, to make money off their followers(in methods that vary from group to group). Sure, there are definitely some legit trading communities out there(like r/bitcoinmarkets) that says their opinions on how they think the charts will move, but they don't claim to be a "trading signals" group.

And yes, I've been in such groups when I was starting out.

I think that it is possible to start trading whenever you wish as it is possible to learn the basics any time, you will be able to become a good trader whenever you wish if you have some initial capital

How about free channel without vip

They are earning on nr 2 and soon after on nr. 3 if they want that.
Or they are free to gain users to look more legit beafore enabling VIP signals.

many people enter the crypto to trade and invest in the ultimate goal of making profits, of course, and there are also people who want to learn about crypto money technology, so it is clear that their main goal is to generate huge profits so that they can achieve their goals and be able to realize their dreams.

Why they do create trading signal channel?  Then only one thing comes to my mind on where those creators of those group neither they would build up a group either free or paid ones but most of them do have still the same target or aim which is to lure in people do follow up their trade but doesn't mean those signals are effective because most groups are just total fraud and just using up others investors money just to sell of their bags when the price had been pumped up by those noobs who just joined in.

Because they earn on thr users. First they start it as a free one and then they put a monthly fees over it. People buy it and they earn money from you.

Ok guys i know now

Thanks

I get DM to join countless Crypto signal groups but I don't know how useful it is and I sometime think it is for the big players in the crypto space since the admin or those in charge directs on what coin to buy and what if you paid to join the signal group and often get signals that you can't buy at the moment. And what if the signal turns out not to be as profitable as they said. So your funds gets locked up.

No, I don't believed those those so called crypto trading channels, they simply sucked newbies like you to join and paid them premium when you can just do it yourself. You just need to study the market and do your homework. I don't like them because they will simply just identify a coin to be pump, which they already did prior and will tell their members to bought them. But while you guys are buying them, they already make they sell orders and so they took the lion share of the money and the rest for the guys who thought that they can get quick money but what they earn is penny compared to those on top like the admins of the group.

no my friend. "signal group" is just a pretty word for the same old "pump group" and there is no difference apart from the fact that the signal group tries their best to hide the fact that they are a pump group otherwise they are not giving you trading signals. they don't even work for altcoins because of the high level of manipulation in the market itself so you can't even analyze the market and come up with a "signal" in first place.

and a pump group can also work on any coin. it doesn't have to be a small one. of course it is easier to pump smaller coins but it is sometimes more profitable to pump a bigger coin and depending on the size of the group and how much money the owners have they can pump any altcoin.

In pump and dump group eveyone knows that it is gambling. To earn you need to be first. Thats why they put small percentage of their funds. Thats why even 10 000+ members group has less than 100 btc buy volume. I think its not enough to pump big coins (2% is not a pump for me)(at liest on big exchanges where they will be able to sell it). Thats why to use those 100 BTC as good as possible they choise easy to pump coins and set exact date days/weeks beafore and whole 100 btc is pumped in less than 15 sec pumping price 30-200%. In ~1000 members signal groups buy volume can be close to 10 BTC max? There are newbies (pro are trading by themselve) and most of them are not online (not ready for pump). They are puting those 10 btc not in 15 sec but in 3-5h period.

They work and act totally different.

Even if signal group will pump price 1-3% (giving those ~2% profit to admins) in 3 h period its not pump and dump group which pump price 30-200% in 15 sec.

Huge signal group with 10 000+ members can slowly push price few %
Regular pump and dump group can push price very fast up to 200% in 15 sec

That's why i try to convince that saying that they are the same is wrong.

I've never seen pump and dump group pumping coins from top 10 in marketcap. But i've seen signal even on BTC/USD pair (tell me now that this signal on ~2000 members group pumped bitcoin)

Thats why I alwais say when someone from signal group is telling me:

-"look at this trades and profits."
-What is your accuracy than. Its easy to show 10 profitable trades out of 50 signal given. - and most are not answering this question. If they do it looks like this:
-"We have 90%+ accurancy"
-i see there is no stop loss on those singals. Its easier without it to have 90% accurancy beacuse you w8 till profit accepting risk of -100% of some trades and locked capital for months. And -90% and then pump to 2% profit is still profitable trade. In that way you can have 90% profitable trades and still have wallet on lost. Or after first lost trade has some percentege of locked capital, with secon another part, third ... etc. till whole capital locked in waste trades waiting for pump to 2% profit on 1 to unlock something for next trade.

For now no leader answer this.

All signal trading in telegram channel have 2 option , that is we can join it by free or paid member, and for paid member they will give more extra service, like early signal call so possible to make more profit. I did ask some of them about fee to become paid member, and they said about 0.01 BTC to 0.1 BTC. But offource all signal from their channel is not 100% accurate, and this signal good for trader who does not have times to make analysis in crypto market.

Trading signal group is somewhat a win-win situation, but not most of the time.

They do it as a way of earning money, for example, you can join the trading
signal group if you pay an entrance fee, or signals for VIPs only.

i think it is good but not really good to believe. i means you can follow what their signal but don't follow it too deep because from what i see trading signal sometime is bad for follower and who give you signal sometime already bought the coins in lower price

This question has been answered a few days back, but don't worry I would like to answer it again. Actually, people create crypto signal groups or trading groups in order to earn money for sharing their signals so that they can earn a good passive income for them for a long time and also they use this groups for selling some marketing products or in order to make some lists for their marketing purposes. There are only a few groups which share their trading signal services with a good accuracy and at affordable rates otherwise all the other are for marketing purposes.

I think you should relate to the similar channels with a suspicion because there are a lot of fraudsters who will notify you about new signals but those signals will be a lie so be careful before joining to any channel. I consider that every trader should think himself. Anyway if you want to receive interesting ideas and signals you would better read this forum because this forum is moderated well enough and other members reveal fraudsters fast.

The channel of a trading signal is a deception. They just write that there will be a pamp of the coin, specifying on what exchange and at what time. Usually this is done for a few minutes, in order that the buyers could not analyze the coin and think whether it is worth buying it at all. At the set time, all the participants of the channel begin to actively buy up the coin, that's why the pamp takes place. Meanwhile, channel members buy coins, the organizers of the group, who previously bought coins at a low price, begin to sell their coins to everyone. And there are a lot of interested people. So it goes until the price reaches its peak. Then everyone starts actively selling and here who sold the first, he managed to pick up his investments, who didn't have time, he becomes a long-term investor. I don't recommend playing these games. After all, this is pure deception. You will not be able to correctly identify all the factors and you will not be able to buy and sell at the right time, so most likely, you will lose.

There are now many commercial channels on the Telegram, which are free and free. But when you trade according to that signal, the return is usually very low while there may be a lot of losses as investors sell continuously. I have learned many lessons from investment signals.

We don’t know their real purpose, maybe to help traders on their decision, or to make money of out membership fee or to hype any coins. Newbies should not depend on this, its risky to do so. Trade on your own, which is better than to depend to anyone which can put your money in higher risk.

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When playing pump and dump remember that the profit is possible only if you play against someone, be sure you are not that person others play against. From my experience, signals can work, but for a limited time only since the system is constantly changing

Dont literally follow the trading signal channel, find the reason behind the signal decision. And do the trade because of that reason not because of the signal.
Make the signal become your references and learning stuff.

How do you think, and trading through signals is honest? Apparently, such opportunities are not used by all traders, but only those that have access to certain resources.

You need to make a difference between crypto trading signal groups, and crypto pump and dump groups. Those are two different things, in the first one you get signals from individual or group that observes market, follow news and announcements, who have connections in crypto world and knows things before others, they analyze all info they can gather and give you a signal for something. In pump and dump groups admins with all followers manipulate with coins or tokens, that is not trading and its not honest. If you are close with people who organize all that you can make some profit, but most of the people lose, cause when you sell that worthless pumped coin you need to know that someone bought it and after pump and dump is over that coin is useless, don`t  support that kind of things.

i think it is a wasted or time  . really if you want to trade in crypto , i think you need to learn Technical analysis , and need to know about more information about crypto. so i recomment you avoid from crypto signal .

People create such Talegram channels in order to make money on it. But these predictions very rarely come true and you can lose your money unlike the administrators of these groups. Therefore, it is better to trade with the help of your brains.

Trading signal channels are just another kind of ponzi that want to suck few dollar from newbie traders, I used to follow few of such channels when I was new in bitcoin trading but I couldn't make any money with their free signals, instead lost few hundreds when trying to follow their signals.

This made me curious about their paid channel and at that time it cost 0.03BTC per month which is huge money back than and looking at their stats from paid channel (which they made up) anybody could have fall into it but luckily I came into few articles/threads where I found how those signal channels are hyping up and all those profit screenshots were fake.

Nobody will sell you signal for few hundred bucks if they can easily make more than those amount by trading with their own money. Be alert...

There are some making crypto signal group as a business, also
it is a way of helping traders with no spare time on their hands,
so somehow it is a win win situation.

joining/entering a crypto signal group is costly and risky, why
not learn trading by yourself? you don't have extra time? well
if that is the situation, just a piece of advice, be carefully, have
a proper precaution, don't rely and trust signal group too much.

I would be very careful with these types of channels.  No one is going to just step up and give you great information so you can make millions.  This one follow the old adage if you don't know who the sucker is it may be you. 

possibly with this signal and perhaps if many people believe in an asset that will rise in price and many people buy the asset and make the asset price go up.

My friends are already successful, they have access to telegram signal.
but such signals must be paid,
some are free but we have to see a good signal.

The purposes only " money ", sharing education " never ". They have faith and better result using their method and sell it to another users that only have money without knowledge, that's fine but the risk is also big. If you use this channel your skill will never grow up and there's opportunity to get loss also. I will not stop you to join any crypto trading channel but please follow education & sharing channel, not sell signal.

Do not subscribe to any channels or groups. These groups and channels are created for those who want and think easy to earn on trading crypto currency. It is better to study for yourself and read a lot about trade, then you will understand how to act.

I think they have two option. Earn from people and help people to earn. They all are not fake or fucker. Some of them are really fucker. Their signals have no use without losing. But some of them have fantastic work.  I don’t want to say that their signal works 100% but works some. 60-75% may be their signal really work. Here is a fact that if their signal works 60 to 75% then why you need to pay for this?  Every trader can expect and predict such percentage of the signal. Another thing is if their signal works so good then why they need to provide us? Can’t they earn in silence? Mine recommend not to buy signals.

Better not use any signals that are given by strangers. Try to trade on the crypto currency market yourself, as this will be more lucrative than the wrong signals.

I believe that at this point you can completely start trading, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly fluctuating and adjusting very strongly in recent years, the market is continuing its down cycle, the main So at this moment I believe you should only invest in short-term and daily trading so that you can minimize the risk.

clear explanation

This moment I believe is very suitable for you to buy bitcoin trading and altcoin trading. The market is currently showing some signs of recovery, so I believe that at this time you should invest in short bitcoin and can trade today. The market is in a downtrend phase so you should only trade short to minimize risk.

Most of these channels have their own purpose, but I do not really trust them, they just use the crowd to pump a coin to discharge. Most new players stick to this signal and lose money :-\

Their signals have no use without losing. But some of them have fantastic work.  I don’t want to say that their signal works 100% but works some. 60-75% may be their signal really work.

For me, not a good idea. Most of those trading signals are fake even if you are paying for premium subscription. When you are trading a lot of money and relying on their signal, what if they got a load of that asset you are going to trade and they would dump right on your face while you unknowingly just bought the dump. Too many things to consider but don't rely on that, but if you are, just trade a little amount of  your asset.

Now, as the market is going up again, it's hard to know if it's rising fast or slow, but now is a good time for us to invest in surfing and the price is going up a bit. good to buy altcoin on.

I initially bought signals, at that time I paid a decent amount of bitcoins. But in the end, nothing earned, no earned a little bit, even the fee for the channel is not covered! The essence of the thing: they don't give 100% information on the signals - they are simply repelled from the technical analysis, and make an approximate forecast. Plus for a person all this can be done by a robot! I began to study technical analysis myself, and to make price forecasts for myself, and to compare with signals that were given by free iplat sources, it turned out almost the same way. It was possible to open business! So it's all babbling, don't buy it! No one can guarantee you the price!

Do not be too confident in trading signal groups, not all of them provide the right information to conduct trading activities, sometimes the makers of their trading signal channels only lure you to invest in them after the given signal is accurate, and the second factor after being told to make an investment so get the premium signal for sure the free group will be used as a place to share airdrop links

Yes, most of them are not reliable. Also, it is difficult to have an opinion on which one. But there are a few groups that really help. If we look at the number of digital currencies in the market i think we need reputable groups.

In this online industry there are lots of people make a cryptocurrency trading signal group in this Telegram section. This is a cryptocurrency signal group because some people sale signal so they are always create secret group. if you want to join this group so I need to pay some money then admin will be added this group and you can get VIP cryptocurrency signal. In a couple of days ago some friends join and they are get some pump news about cryptocurrency.