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Title: Game Over??
Post by: Steam20 on February 20, 2014, 06:57:00 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: jbrnt on February 20, 2014, 06:59:58 PM
I know MtGox price is distored, but below $150 is frightening


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: Holliday on February 20, 2014, 07:01:20 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

Yep. The dysfunctional exchange known as MtGox has decided to end Bitcoin. Please destroy your wallets and shut down any Bitcoin related software at once.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: Keyser Soze on February 20, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

Yep. The dysfunctional exchange known as MtGox has decided to end Bitcoin. Please destroy your wallets and shut down any Bitcoin related software at once.

Thanks for the heads up!  :D


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: gentlemand on February 20, 2014, 07:11:12 PM
I just deleted mine and hit everyone I ever discussed Bitcoin with over the head with a log. I've done my bit.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: bitcon on February 20, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

Yep. The dysfunctional exchange known as MtGox has decided to end Bitcoin. Please destroy your wallets and shut down any Bitcoin related software at once.



lol.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: DanielVG on February 20, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
Yes, to all newcomers: bitcoin is game over. 
too bad, but it is what it is, take it to the museum.
I'm still willing to take all your bitcoins for $1, so you can at least get something out.
please PM


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: GigaWave on February 20, 2014, 07:15:57 PM
Stupid thread is stupid?...Yep. 

Temp bans should start being handed out for stupid threads/behavior. Would make this site so much more informative and tolerable.  ...wait something intelligent?  whoops forgot what site I'm on. Continue with your regularly scheduled FUD.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: FierceRadish on February 20, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

GOX @ $119

Important difference, Apocalypse Boy.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: DanielVG on February 20, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
Stupid thread is stupid?...Yep. 

Temp bans should start being handed out for stupid threads/behavior. Would make this site so much more informative and tolerable.  ...wait something intelligent?  whoops forgot what site I'm on. Continue with your regularly scheduled FUD.

jawohl Herr Führer.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: GigaCoin on February 20, 2014, 07:21:04 PM
Yes, to all newcomers: bitcoin is game over. 
too bad, but it is what it is, take it to the museum.
I'm still willing to take all your bitcoins for $1, so you can at least get something out.
please PM

i'll outbid you, $2 !


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: AmazonStuff on February 20, 2014, 07:28:43 PM
Gox @112 less then hour before double-digits. This will influence confidence of traders on other exchanges, at least I think so... 100 is a significant number


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: Holliday on February 20, 2014, 07:30:12 PM
Gox @112 less then hour before double-digits. This will influence confidence of traders on other exchanges, at least I think so...

Only until it doesn't. These final ties will eventually be severed and the decoupling will be complete.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: lemfuture on February 20, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??
yes but good news, you can try again


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on February 20, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

Bitcoin isn't at $119 unless you would like to sell me some of your coins at $119?

The GoxCoinIOU / GoxBucksIOU exchange rate is at $119.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: zeroday on February 20, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Gox is over, not bitcoin :)


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: boumalo on February 20, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

114$ atm I would buy BTC if I had fiat on gox and I would sell some here https://bitcoinbuilder.com/


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: tutkarz on February 20, 2014, 08:11:54 PM
I don't understand why they wont suspend trading if exchange is not functioning properly.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: proudhon on February 20, 2014, 08:16:29 PM
Gosh, I could easily liquidate on BitStamp, Coinbase, or with SecondMarket for over $550/BTC, but the crash is happening on Gox so I should probably send my bitcoins there to sell.  Yes?


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: MatTheCat on February 20, 2014, 08:16:47 PM
I don't understand why they wont suspend trading if exchange is not functioning properly.

Because then they wouldn't be able to just steal everyone's BTC and arb the fuck out of them.......of course!  :D

Gosh, I could easily liquidate on BitStamp, Coinbase, or with SecondMarket for over $550/BTC, but the crash is happening on Gox so I should probably send my bitcoins there to sell.  Yes?

I can confirm that this would be a fantastic idea.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: BitcoinTate on February 20, 2014, 08:18:11 PM
I don't understand why they wont suspend trading if exchange is not functioning properly.
How else could they arbitrage their own exchange and pay off their bills?


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: sgbett on February 20, 2014, 08:21:51 PM
Gosh, I could easily liquidate on BitStamp, Coinbase, or with SecondMarket for over $550/BTC, but the crash is happening on Gox so I should probably send my bitcoins there to sell.  Yes?

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist coming back at these levels of drama :D


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: st4nl3y on February 20, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
bitstamp and others are still holding strong but if/when mtgox resumes btc withdrawals, the price will crash everywhere else.
we might even see low 2-digit number on mtgox before this^ happens


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: zemario on February 20, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
I smell cheap coins.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: Holliday on February 20, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
certainly mtgox is taking arbitrages so they pay the bills but someone must have all this fucking money

I mean, I know Gox is pretty fucking incompetent, but it boggles the mind how they could be in debt after all the fees they've been scalping from their victims customers the past few days.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: odysseus654 on February 20, 2014, 08:42:46 PM
I haven't heard anyone mentioning what I speculate happened, so time to throw my voice (https://xkcd.com/386/) into the crowd.

We have a situation where MtGox has without warning disabled bitcoin withdrawals, then a couple days later announce/accuse a hole that permitted someone from getting more bitcoins than they deserved.

Days later another popular "exchange" (http://reason.com/blog/2014/02/13/more-bad-news-for-bitcoin-silk-road-ii-h) said they were affected by the same vulnerability and had their entire wallet stolen by the process.

MtGox states that they are in full compliance with Japanese law, which requires all exchanges to be fully solvent while they are running.

What I speculate may have happened is that MtGox's online wallet was completely drained by this exploit and that may have caused bitcoin withdrawals to end.  They may have been smart and had an offline wallet as well (so they aren't completely bled dry) however being a very popular exchange they likely lost a large chunk of their coins in the process and are now bitcoin-insolvent.  They are still operating within the law in this case because Japan doesn't know what bitcoins are yet and they are still fully fiat-solvent.

It also means that their goal would not be to attract more dollars, but try to find some place to get more coins from.  Metering bitcoin withdraws at the beginning would make sense (until they run dry).  I believe they're also scrambling over trying to improve their code to plug the hole, especially with feedback (in threads on this site) as to how low their server code quality is.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: sgbett on February 20, 2014, 08:46:34 PM
certainly mtgox is taking arbitrages so they pay the bills but someone must have all this fucking money

I mean, I know Gox is pretty fucking incompetent, but it boggles the mind how they could be in debt after all the fees they've been scalping from their victims customers the past few days.

this exactly (its why I've taken a risk).

not saying they aren't, but if they are, then I'm buying shares in starbucks because there next quarterly report is gonna be through the roof ;)


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: TERA on February 20, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
Network Security Dispatched.

Foreign Thread Eliminated.

Access Denied.

Game Over.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: TotalPanda on February 20, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
http://s8.postimg.org/5x8933ydh/mtgox_BTC_111.jpg


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: TERA on February 20, 2014, 09:03:40 PM
I don't understand why they wont suspend trading if exchange is not functioning properly.
How else could they arbitrage their own exchange and pay off their bills?
Don't you understand? The Modus Operandi of mtgox is to do absolutely nothing. That includes halting trading on their exchange.


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: DanielVG on February 20, 2014, 09:15:03 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20140220/4983972/gameover-o.gif

GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!


Title: Re: Game Over??
Post by: jeffg on February 20, 2014, 09:36:19 PM

Nah, don't worry. I have a few friends at the NSA who owe me a favour and I'll ask the to install a backup of the internet (including the blockchain) from November 2013.