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Title: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: nngella on August 03, 2018, 05:14:13 AM
I just noticed that some spreadsheets of bounty campaigns have multiple occurring of same names.
I do not know the reason of this phenomenon.  Maybe the user inputted his/her entry twice.  But I also encountered in which one registered using the name and bitcointalk profile link of other member and listed his/her ETH address, meaning he will reap the efforts of others.

Because of these, I would like to suggest to use CONDITIONAL FORMATTING in the spreadsheet to identify duplicate or multiple names.

STEP 1
https://i.imgur.com/PboaP63.jpg

STEP 2
https://i.imgur.com/xXsv67Y.jpg


I hope this helps to prevent "Effort-Grabbers"


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: bhadz on August 03, 2018, 10:17:17 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: nngella on August 03, 2018, 10:38:24 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.


I saw some members complaining on the bounty thread that some scammers use this trick to confuse the bounty managers and give the tokens to the wrong eth address.

Hence i just suggest this tip for bounty managers to sort out duplicated names.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Maldini07 on August 03, 2018, 11:16:24 AM
~skip~
But I also encountered in which one registered using the name and bitcointalk profile link of other member and listed his/her ETH address, meaning he will reap the efforts of others.
Yes this kind of thing I often encounter, even some times I get my bitcointalk account used by other members to follow the campaign telegram and other social media and for that I was forced to reporting him to bounty manager


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: sureshnsnet on August 03, 2018, 11:44:25 AM
There is some scammers entry the same name with another user and scammers wallet address but no use west of time only because the campaign manager going to reject that entries, and what you share here that excel formula will help to check the double names in spreadsheets.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: totoy4741 on August 04, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
I, myself had experience putting my entry twice if only my internet interupts or have some trouble signing ups but I quickly address it to BM to avoid disqualifcations of my entry. But think those who put different bitcointalk or telegram or other info, but with same eth address are intentionals cause they want to cheat and get more tokens than everyone else in the lists. And it ends up to some disqualifications to those identities that stolens who are doing an honest job. Hopefully Bounty Managers could see and apply it to avoid scammers or cheaters. Nice piece of information though.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: tronghoa on August 04, 2018, 10:18:03 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.

Sometime it is mistake from bounty hunter but sometime it could be from cheater - who want to use other's account name for the bounty and earn more stakes than he could get. I made mistake one time before and I have to chat with BM via telegram to correct it.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: AzuraBWZ on August 04, 2018, 11:08:03 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.

i thinks is normal , because manager can make a mistake. but if scammer using name of profil its very carefull and your mine will gone.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Jahebau on August 04, 2018, 11:22:36 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.

i thinks is normal , because manager can make a mistake. but if scammer using name of profil its very carefull and your mine will gone.
yeah we must carefull with a scammer , he is very dangerous. if double name of spreadsheet we can complain to manager so that it can be fixed


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: dinans2018 on August 04, 2018, 12:40:50 PM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.

i thinks is normal , because manager can make a mistake. but if scammer using name of profil its very carefull and your mine will gone.
yeah we must carefull with a scammer , he is very dangerous. if double name of spreadsheet we can complain to manager so that it can be fixed
hmm.. i never like that but sounds is very bad for manager . maybe we can report that manager cause her mistake


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: nngella on August 05, 2018, 09:10:53 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.

i thinks is normal , because manager can make a mistake. but if scammer using name of profil its very carefull and your mine will gone.
yeah we must carefull with a scammer , he is very dangerous. if double name of spreadsheet we can complain to manager so that it can be fixed
hmm.. i never like that but sounds is very bad for manager . maybe we can report that manager cause her mistake
just contact the bounty manager using telegram and he/she will correct his/her mistakes.  It the bounty manager is not capable in correcting this one, this clearly says that he/she is not doing well in being a bounty manager which reflects the ICO campaign that you just joined.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: CathalG on August 06, 2018, 02:39:45 AM
It's not a big deal to prevent these types of scammers if bounty manager is experienced. But most of them are very lazy and just don't care about scammers.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: bhadz on August 06, 2018, 10:11:54 AM
They probably had a mistake and just did it accidentally but we don't know if there's deep intention about those duplicated application.
This must be the concern for managers because most of them can't even check each of their participants.
i thinks is normal , because manager can make a mistake. but if scammer using name of profil its very carefull and your mine will gone.
It's normal that manager commits mistake, there's no perfect in everything but this is a different issue for having a mistake the way they handle a campaign and to those abusers.
There are managers that are committed to their work but I'm saying that not all of them are like that. As I've said, they can't even check each of their participants so if there are problems like this, someone who has concern and wants to contribute and clean this type of mess, address this to the appropriate manager.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: tolgahanuzun on August 06, 2018, 01:19:11 PM
This indicates a bad bounty manager work. Usually they banyat such users. But sometimes they can miss it by mistake. Just tell your bounty manager. He will correct this data, and remove the fraudster.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: lectro on August 06, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
I just noticed that some spreadsheets of bounty campaigns have multiple occurring of same names.
I do not know the reason of this phenomenon.  Maybe the user inputted his/her entry twice.  But I also encountered in which one registered using the name and bitcointalk profile link of other member and listed his/her ETH address, meaning he will reap the efforts of others.

Because of these, I would like to suggest to use CONDITIONAL FORMATTING in the spreadsheet to identify duplicate or multiple names.

STEP 1
https://i.imgur.com/PboaP63.jpg

STEP 2
https://i.imgur.com/xXsv67Y.jpg


I hope this helps to prevent "Effort-Grabbers"

We're asking people to sign-up on our website and then we cross-check that registration email with every bounty claim to avoid people trying to double the effort or get around the rules.   Once you submit registration with email and ethereum address, that information can't be changed.  We look for duplicates each week and determine if it was an actual mistake or malicious behavior in which case the person is disqualified.  Bounty management isn't easy!


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Yana_O1993 on August 06, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
sometimes google form brakes and twice writes you. but if it's about articles, then in one bounty campaign a person can register more than 5 times


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: nngella on August 10, 2018, 09:16:32 AM
We're asking people to sign-up on our website and then we cross-check that registration email with every bounty claim to avoid people trying to double the effort or get around the rules.   Once you submit registration with email and ethereum address, that information can't be changed.  We look for duplicates each week and determine if it was an actual mistake or malicious behavior in which case the person is disqualified.  Bounty management isn't easy!

I do believe that being a bounty manager is a tedious task.  Hence, this tool will save some time for you to pinpoint scammers and effort-grabbers.  We are in the era of so much technology that we can utilize to make our lives much easier.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Leyss on August 11, 2018, 08:01:51 AM
Now really there are a lot of duplicate entries in the ICO tables, which differ only in the purse address. If the manager does not exercise sufficient care, the token will also be sent to the token as a result. Many managers solve this problem simply: they arrange the participants in the table by the alphabet of the participant's name and the duplicates quickly appear. In this case, from two identical accounts by name, the fake one will always be the lowest in the list. For greater certainty, some managers ask participants to specify purse addresses also in their profile. Comparing the counterparts, then it will not be difficult to say which of the two entries is fake.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Sharingjoy on August 11, 2018, 09:51:14 AM
Good idea op, I hope this will help the bounty managers to sort out double entry names and eliminate those scammer that uses other accounts.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: nngella on August 15, 2018, 05:32:21 AM
Now really there are a lot of duplicate entries in the ICO tables, which differ only in the purse address. If the manager does not exercise sufficient care, the token will also be sent to the token as a result. Many managers solve this problem simply: they arrange the participants in the table by the alphabet of the participant's name and the duplicates quickly appear. In this case, from two identical accounts by name, the fake one will always be the lowest in the list. For greater certainty, some managers ask participants to specify purse addresses also in their profile. Comparing the counterparts, then it will not be difficult to say which of the two entries is fake.

This is a simple way to do.  But please take note that when you do this, you need to bring back the old file because you will mess the spreadsheet numbers of the participants.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Gwapoman on August 25, 2018, 06:16:32 AM
addition to OP'S suggestions,sorting names alphabetically would also help Bounty Managers to identify double entries easily,the BM's just need to check the timestamp to determine who is the original and who is the fraud.Another way to prevent those "effort-grabbers" from their fraudulent work is through google form system of reporting.all reported task will not be available to the public and only the BM and his team would have access to the submitted reports.this way,cheaters won't have any chances making a duplicate report and stop doing crazy things like these that sometimes have bad effect to other good bounty hunters


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: bittraffic on August 25, 2018, 06:49:47 AM
Its definitely not a mistake but those guys are impostors who register and then use the profile of someone who participated the campaign but are now registering different ETH address to rip the campaign. If not get caught they'd be able to collect tokens without doing anything. If they use OP's method it can be avoided and those who wants to steal tokens are going to be force to participate and chances is that we might be able to identify them.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: policeoo on August 25, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
I am afraid we can't to much. There will always be people who still other people's work and you can't do anything about it, you  can't prevent to happen. If you see someone has your name or you link of work using by his, you can only report them to admins and hope they will ban them and give you your reward.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: pedangrusak on August 25, 2018, 08:48:43 AM
if a data entry error occurs, the input must be the same as the bitcointalk account name, ETH address and the name of the social media account. but I will report it if someone uses my bitcointalk account by simply changing the social media link and ETH to the bounty manager. and sometimes I see this happening


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: mr.nby on August 25, 2018, 04:48:12 PM
Sometimes in some way name doubles at registration. It is rare but it happens. Typically, such cases are reported to the manager by the registrants themselves. The rest should be treated as scammers trying to use someone else's work. Especially if eth addresses differ.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Gwapoman on August 26, 2018, 04:14:01 AM
I am afraid we can't to much. There will always be people who still other people's work and you can't do anything about it, you  can't prevent to happen. If you see someone has your name or you link of work using by his, you can only report them to admins and hope they will ban them and give you your reward.
I think the reason why OP created this post is to find a solution to help BM track cheaters and prevent this kind of activies to continue..as a bounty hunter,you don't have to search the whole spreadsheet to look for cheaters.it's the duty of BM to keep his bounty clean and free from all kinds of fraud activities.



Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: benhill on September 15, 2018, 08:37:31 PM
I had the experience one day when i registered for a certain bounty campaign, i have the idea of looking back and check  the spreadsheet after a day work. When checking the spreadsheet i found that the scamers  had tampered with my name, ether address and username but they failed to perfect my username. I was not the only hunter that was affected that was made bounty manager believe me that i was  not the one that registered twice. The bounty manager had already  ruled off my particulars until i raised alarm and PM the manager and it was corrected immediately. The solution is to check and recheck the spreadsheet.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: Milliionaiire on September 15, 2018, 09:36:56 PM
there are currently too many scammers who register profiles and names of other people to get greater profits. but the impact of the scammer can make our account exposed to negative trust from the bounty manager. because we can be accused of duplicating our names in the spreadsheet.
I hope for all bounty managers to be more careful in correcting spreadsheets and fairer.


Title: Re: Double names in Spreadsheet campaign (How to prevent "Effort-Grabbers")
Post by: nngella on September 17, 2018, 11:36:24 AM
addition to OP'S suggestions,sorting names alphabetically would also help Bounty Managers to identify double entries easily,the BM's just need to check the timestamp to determine who is the original and who is the fraud.Another way to prevent those "effort-grabbers" from their fraudulent work is through google form system of reporting.all reported task will not be available to the public and only the BM and his team would have access to the submitted reports.this way,cheaters won't have any chances making a duplicate report and stop doing crazy things like these that sometimes have bad effect to other good bounty hunters

Now I am beginning to understand why some spreadsheets are not available to the public.  However, as a bounty hunter, it is so hard to trust someone who does not show the spreadsheet especially the updating of the stakes in a weekly basis.  I am meticulous to the bounty managers of the bounty campaigns that I join and I always make sure that those bounty managers are diligent enough to update the stakes on a regular basis (especially on signature campaigns)