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Title: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: kano on October 14, 2011, 04:46:49 AM
I have no idea what sort of performance is available but, for example my i3-540 CPU says it has a 733Mhz Intel HD Graphics GPU in it.

Anyone got any idea if these would help with any sort of GPU or CPU mining?


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 14, 2011, 06:10:13 AM
I have no idea what sort of performance is available but, for example my i3-540 CPU says it has a 733Mhz Intel HD Graphics GPU in it.

Anyone got any idea if these would help with any sort of GPU or CPU mining?

Intel hasn't provided OpenCL support for their GPU and I am not sure if they even use unified shaders.

The gaming performance is very very very very very very bad.  The cheapest crap integrated video from either AMD or NVidia utterly annihilates Intel HD Graphics GPU.

Ballpark figures:
So if someday Intel got off their ass and wrote OpenCL support for their graphics cores ...  AMD slowest on CPU graphic chip (fusion APUs) does about 25 MH/s.  Intel is likely at best half that.  Realisticly give how little Intel seems to care about even decent graphics performance I would say maybe 30% of that is more realistic.   However today performance is exactly 0 MH/s because Intel has no OpenCL drivers for any of their GPUs.


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: error on October 14, 2011, 08:52:57 AM
Intel is quite new to this whole GPU thing. For them, right now, it's good enough if somebody can see the Windows desktop, watch YouTube and play Farmville. And honestly that's good enough for the majority of people buying these systems. Maybe in the future their offerings will improve.


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: PLaci1982 on October 14, 2011, 05:06:31 PM
Intel is quite new to this whole GPU thing. For them, right now, it's good enough if somebody can see the Windows desktop, watch YouTube and play Farmville. And honestly that's good enough for the majority of people buying these systems. Maybe in the future their offerings will improve.

They not new, they where on the market (of integrated video cards) over a decade, but they are waaaay obsolete and/or outdated design, waaaaay behind AMD/ATI and nVidia.


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 15, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
Intel is quite new to this whole GPU thing. For them, right now, it's good enough if somebody can see the Windows desktop, watch YouTube and play Farmville. And honestly that's good enough for the majority of people buying these systems. Maybe in the future their offerings will improve.

Intel has been selling GPU for 20 years.  Intel is the market "leader" in terms of volume.  They sell more GPU than AMD and NVidia combined.  If 20 years of experience hasn't caused them to be innovative I wouldn't start holding your breath now.


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: ssateneth on October 15, 2011, 03:42:04 AM
Intel is quite new to this whole GPU thing. For them, right now, it's good enough if somebody can see the Windows desktop, watch YouTube and play Farmville. And honestly that's good enough for the majority of people buying these systems. Maybe in the future their offerings will improve.

Intel has been selling GPU for 20 years.  Intel is the market "leader" in terms of volume.  They sell more GPU than AMD and NVidia combined.  If 20 years of experience hasn't caused them to be innovative I wouldn't start holding your breath now.

wat?


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: kano on October 15, 2011, 04:08:31 AM
Intel is quite new to this whole GPU thing. For them, right now, it's good enough if somebody can see the Windows desktop, watch YouTube and play Farmville. And honestly that's good enough for the majority of people buying these systems. Maybe in the future their offerings will improve.

Intel has been selling GPU for 20 years.  Intel is the market "leader" in terms of volume.  They sell more GPU than AMD and NVidia combined.  If 20 years of experience hasn't caused them to be innovative I wouldn't start holding your breath now.

wat?
i.e. they aren't good even though they've been doing it for 20 years.
Don't expect anything different in the near future.


Title: Re: Intel GPUs in their CPUs
Post by: chungenhung on October 25, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
Intel is quite new to this whole GPU thing. For them, right now, it's good enough if somebody can see the Windows desktop, watch YouTube and play Farmville. And honestly that's good enough for the majority of people buying these systems. Maybe in the future their offerings will improve.

Intel has been selling GPU for 20 years.  Intel is the market "leader" in terms of volume.  They sell more GPU than AMD and NVidia combined.  If 20 years of experience hasn't caused them to be innovative I wouldn't start holding your breath now.
While that is true, we must also realize that high performing GPU is NOT Intel's core business. This is precisely why it sucked so bad.