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Spam factory accounts Member in a very popular topic

In the last few days there is some invasion of bots in a very popular topic in the Russian section: Analytics, analysis, forecasts, news (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006631.0)
The rules of the forum Postings do not violate, as they have a link to the source, but distinctive features of accounts:

1. All accounts have a signature

2. All accounts are very old and probably hacked

3. All messages on one pattern (only the headlines of articles from popular resources about cryptocurrencies and a link to the source)

4. All messages are sent every few minutes

Someone clearly decided to automate the process of posting messages for signature companies on the forum?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102266
Name:    trekmonster7 - banned
Posts:    197
Activity:    197
Merit:    10
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Date Registered:    April 18, 2013, 01:19:57 PM


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Activity:    174
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UPD:

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Archive - https://web.archive.org/web/20180807101947/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006631.87880


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Posts:   294
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Yes they have. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4761410.msg43009619#msg43009619)

This list is incomplete, there are much more accounts, here is a list a little more (but still not enough 5-10 accounts minimum):

Ok now everything is clear, that is some freaking evil machine. Maybe somebody should have a look at it and see if can be stopped somehow.

The irony is that this does not violate the rules of the forum and in fact most of the messages are more useful than the Indonesian - Russian shitposters.

These spam bots are really tired of everything - 50% of messages in the topic - from bots!

The problem of bots spamming (in particular "news headlines") is included in the list of priorities? We have more and more of them in the Russian branch every day.

They do not violate the rules (place a link to the source of the news), but in fact - it is 100% spam. The moderators even opened a separate topic under "news headlines", or they do other topics unreadable.


Do report on such posts of p.1.(low-value post) - get bad report! (post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4856359.msg43941045#msg43941045)

https://a.radikal.ru/a09/1808/0e/18b5af67546a.png (https://radikal.ru)

No wonder since you reported a post from the thread which was specially created for those posts (Xal0lex wanted to remove them from other threads on account of their "garbage" nature - see his original post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4856359.0)).

nice work op

Thank you!


Actually, I wrote about it above.

As a temporary solution to this problem Xal0lex made everything perfect. But what will happen if tomorrow bounty managers will cease to count the posts placed with "garbage topics"?

This spam will return in 10 new topics?

I just restored the post which originally was written before your reply in previous thread.


Everything would just return to it's basics. Since this thread is created for those posts by moderator they don't break anything there, but if they'd go outside they'll automatically start to violate the p.1. It's exactly the same situation we dwelled before.

It was a reference to these words:


Just seems strange to me to create topics for the filling of posts by bots?
Probably easier just to apply the ban for multiple posting violates p.1? (since their number will continue to grow IMHO)
And that would be a great "ice shower" for the rest of the "news headline posters"...

I consider that they have to be banned, but our (russian moderators) inquiries on their banning are ignored.

Why not if it works? It's much easier to moderate them when they're collected in one place - and users who nevertheless find something useful there (applying them like some kind of news letter for example) don't have to dig the analytics thread (nor the entire board) to find what they want.


It'd been applied long time ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994018.msg30951386#msg30951386). The problem is that these accounts mostly have the rank of Jr. Member and higher - which means that only Global Mods and Admins can lock them (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964593.msg11237846#msg11237846) while local moderators have to request the block. Requests consume time - and not every one of them is being satisfied (all the more so there're hundreds of bots). IMO, no wonder that Russian moderator decided to go the other way.


They're bots (at least the majority of them, I suppose). Bots don't think and don't hesitate - they just do what was implemented in their code. "Ice showers" are pertinent when we talk about people.

Thank you! I immediately realized that the problem only moderators of the Russian section of the forum to resolve difficult - and therefore have created a topic on the Meta-board


Create they are clearly people and benefit from a signature company get the same people. Loss of 10-20 accounts will sober anyone  ;)

Creating a bunch of bots to participate in the signature company - is a business.
Question - we need such a business on the forum?
If not - can destroy a business - just ban accounts is to make it unprofitable!

How do you expect it to be "destroyed" by banning? In fact I doubt that bans indeed disturb them (especially those who actually are engaged in some sort of "business"): sometimes it seems that they register a new bunch of accounts faster then their previous bunch is being banned.

It's simple. If the cost of the account "member" for example $200, and getting banned and flying out with the signature company, they will not get anything - I wonder what they choose?


With the introduction of the Merit system, it is problematic to make many new Member's accounts. Because they use hacked accounts 2011-2014 years. And their number is definitely limited!

How about this guy and his alt :
212      Erik Fox    (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1678661)     BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p= Erik Fox)
213      Erik Foxx    (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2180532)     BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p= Erik Foxx)

84 activity and 2672 posts !! for 2 months this is like 1300 posts per month or more than 40 per day!!


And the Russian version :) Quite similar don't you think :)

Master of shit-posts level 80  ;D

These spammers don't care about Members. The majority of accounts they use are Jr. Members which don't need anything but time and activity to be obtained (at least for now). If they put the process on a stream (and I assume that they do), they register a new bunch of accounts every day and evolve them quietly in boards like Off-topic just to avoid the situation when their previous bunch is banned. Thus they don't incur any losses.

Yes, while it is difficult to fight spam from accounts Jr. Members. The option of introducing Merit for them is already under consideration. But in this topic, I focus just on Member accounts and above.

Banned now:

trekmonster7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102266) - banned
beastY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19350) - banned
bitwar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17954) - banned
brainwashed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=45077) - banned
AngelineMoore (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=45204) - banned
rothnic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19619) - banned
firmaster163 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=208309) - banned
lightworker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25045) - banned
alex.advert2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1320843) - banned

Not banned:

DuppyBTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=298304)
Barryeinz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=57160)
Ypser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98430)
Hoofprint (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149497)