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Title: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: supertalker on August 08, 2018, 06:46:47 AM
You know DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation and similar agency) have large RnD budgets.
Internet(first intranet) and TOR developed by similar agencies and that they followed criminal thereupon merchandise.
And we recognize that 1st deep-mined bitcoins aren't moving, who doesn't touch his ten billion USD? If S.N. is dead perhaps that's why however if not it perhaps a government project.ud
You cant bit country's cash because it's illicit. affirmative they sold SilkRoad's cash, however, that was a standard procedure. thus its high probability bitcoin may be a USA funded secret project. no one is allowed to mention it and no-one is allowed to maneuver 1st bitcoins. this can be a far most suitable choice.

I am waiting for your thinking about this.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: bitfocus on August 08, 2018, 06:59:44 AM
You need to consider brainstorming with real and regular facts, not spreading some baseless conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: cityhall on August 08, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Yes, Satoshi Nakamoto is FBI.  Tomorrow someone will ask same question but with other three letter-agencies.  Satoshi is DEA?  Satoshi work for KGB?  Satoshi NSA agent?  Bitcoin is DHS work?  Satoshi work for WTF?


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: BitPotus on August 08, 2018, 07:04:29 AM
HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas

National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology

Cryptology Division

18 June 1996


http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

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Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: kiboloves on August 08, 2018, 08:00:16 AM
I never thought there was a person like Satoshi Nakamoto, which might be a IT technical team, and no matter from which point we could guess that there was a lot of connection between bitcoin and FBI, and I think the encrypted world could be completely controlled by the United States in the future, perhaps it's a real fraud.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Raccuporly on August 11, 2018, 11:05:20 AM
Don't give any such useless thind just out of prediction and suspicion. Talk about it when you have enough proof. Don't make the general people to believe in such fake news.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: face foul on August 11, 2018, 11:13:28 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto was launched bitcoin in 2009 and i believe bitcoin has no connection with FBI but i also believe America could be controlled this market in the future.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Emence on August 11, 2018, 12:19:07 PM
It is not a big deal who is he based on this we should think what he did for us also because of him we are getting benefits from crypto market because he created this BTC and then crypto market is being created.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: pehuk on August 11, 2018, 12:34:13 PM
Shatoshi Nakamoto is really a great developer based on this it is not necessary who is he but we should talk about what he did for us based on this he did really good things for us because he created BTC.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: crypto_futurer on August 11, 2018, 12:37:56 PM
If bitcoin was created by the FBI, then they would not make anonymous crypto currency, but try to control people in every way. I think that Satoshi Nakamoto is a person who is trying to make our world better.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Proo1947 on August 11, 2018, 12:46:13 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto has discovered Bitcoin which is the first cryptocurrency to arrive in the market. He successfully hid his identity and till now no one really knows that who is Satoshi. He might be anyone and there is a possibility that he might be an FBI.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Lisedc on August 11, 2018, 01:50:57 PM
Whether Satoshi is the FBI or not, is not of a main concern. The fact that we got something good out of it and that we should use it for the betterment of the society should be the main aim. If they want to remain anonymous, let it be that way.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: hermanjones18 on August 11, 2018, 02:02:13 PM
I think Satoshi Nakamoto is perhaps not a people or person but a group of enthusiasts who wanted to make a revolution that will change the world economy as well as make a regulation-free economical baseline where everyone's information will be free and there will be full transparency.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: rahimali on August 11, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
I think it’s not direct FBI. It’s a technical team which are indirectly connected with FBI. If I am wrong than sorry.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: zinson01 on August 11, 2018, 05:29:56 PM
I have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto they are work for the development of bitcoin and bitcoin is the best currency over other currency I believe that they had made a good development for bitcoin in future also it will hold it place in crypto world. I am not sure about that, can FBI be satoshi nakamoto.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Youggairch on August 11, 2018, 05:47:45 PM
I never thought there was a man like Satoshi Nakamoto, which may be an IT specialized group, and regardless of from which point we could figure that there was a great deal of association amongst bitcoin and FBI, and I think the encoded world could be totally controlled by the United States later on, maybe it's a genuine misrepresentation.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Sutters Mill on August 11, 2018, 05:49:24 PM
You know DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation and similar agency) have large RnD budgets.
Internet(first intranet) and TOR developed by similar agencies and that they followed criminal thereupon merchandise.
And we recognize that 1st deep-mined bitcoins aren't moving, who doesn't touch his ten billion USD? If S.N. is dead perhaps that's why however if not it perhaps a government project.ud

Or maybe he's an altruist and doesn't think it's fair to touch them? Or maybe he's the worlds biggest believer in bitcoin and is hodling them to the max to cash out as a trillionaire? Who knows.

I find this theory that bitcoin was created by the CIA/FBI as completely baseless. Sure, they might have created it. It might also be technology created by aliens:

https://i0.wp.com/ilium.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/aliens.jpg

Personally I think satoshi was likely just one very smart guy who came up with a genius idea and put it out into the world for the better. Maybe he's now dead or maybe he just wants to let bitcoin take it's natural course whilst observing from afar, but if he ever wants to out himself I'm sure he will. Doubt that he will or whether it would be a good thing though.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: blackandwhite89 on August 11, 2018, 06:50:05 PM
yes I know when there is no direct proof or avidence then you have full rights to receive it as per you want but with any owner or without the market is going very well and if the investors keep active then it will remain like this


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: BraveHeadlight on August 11, 2018, 09:02:48 PM
No. I want to tell you one thing don't trust all kind of news. there are lots of conspiracy about crypto market. Just use your common sense.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: drmilind2004 on August 11, 2018, 09:13:34 PM
There's only one sure easy to find out for sure; and, the key to solving this puzzle is the first million mined Bitcoin that still belong to 'Satoshi'. If in future, some globally all-powerful government were to impose a retrospective tax on the holding of Bitcoin, then those first million coins would amount to a tidy sum, especially if they are taxed at the end-2017 USD20k peak.  Then, if there's a real 'Satoshi' he would be liable to pay a fat amount of taxes, and his real identity would be outed in next to no time. If, on the other hand, as you claim, it's just some CIA/FBI/NSA thingy, they'll simply brush it under the carpet, or come clean with a final revelatory disclosure. Either way, we will know the answer for sure through this taxation schematic.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Wine and Limo on August 11, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
You know DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation and similar agency) have large RnD budgets.
Internet(first intranet) and TOR developed by similar agencies and that they followed criminal thereupon merchandise.
And we recognize that 1st deep-mined bitcoins aren't moving, who doesn't touch his ten billion USD? If S.N. is dead perhaps that's why however if not it perhaps a government project.ud
You cant bit country's cash because it's illicit. affirmative they sold SilkRoad's cash, however, that was a standard procedure. thus its high probability bitcoin may be a USA funded secret project. no one is allowed to mention it and no-one is allowed to maneuver 1st bitcoins. this can be a far most suitable choice.

I am waiting for your thinking about this.

This is an interesting concept, but if Satoshi were FBI what's the FBI getting out of it?

Plus, Satoshi's Bitcoins still hasn't moved for years, which makes me think he might be dead.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: stellaekun on August 11, 2018, 09:16:35 PM
I do not think the identity of Satoshie Nakamoto will ever be known, someone who is disciplined enough not to have have moved a single bitcoin obviously is not after the money but a better world.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 11, 2018, 09:33:50 PM
I still have interest of knowing who's Satoshi Nakamoto is but wherever he is right now, I'm glad that his creation is keep on going.

Maybe these private detectives will know if Satoshi is the FBI.

Private Detectives from Different Countries Will be Hired to Find Satoshi Nakamoto (https://www.coinspeaker.com/2018/08/10/private-detectives-from-different-countries-will-be-hired-to-find-satoshi-nakamoto/)
Finding Satoshi Nakamoto: Team of private detectives to set out on a global quest for Bitcoin daddy (https://bcfocus.com/news/finding-satoshi-nakamoto-team-of-private-detectives-to-set-out-on-a-global-quest-for-bitcoin-daddy/20809/)


HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas

National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology

Cryptology Division

18 June 1996


http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

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Interesting, I'll read this later.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: feelingfroggy on August 11, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
I agree that Bitcoin did not just happen to come along by a Japanese fellow and was allowed to grow and prosper.  Then instead of violence to stop a competing currency (see Iraq and Libya) to the us dollar they promote Bitcoin on the media?  I'm 99% sure Bitcoin or some crypto will rise and become the singular currency for the world. 


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Broure on August 12, 2018, 05:43:57 AM
There has been no credible information regarding this type of conspiracy. Many others have claimed this theory to be true but only with mere words and no strong sources. Although we don’t know who satoshi nakamoto is, we all know about the winklevoss twins. I hope they will come with something that helps bitcoin to grow bigger. We all want to know about the real satoshi nakamoto and are very curious.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: SilverChromia on August 12, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
I dont if i have the rights to say this but some people say that Satoshi Nakamoto is not just a one person but a organization or a group of people that has a lot of brain in new modern technologies thats why Bitcoin is now using every technologies that can use via online like social media and maybe you are right that even FBI can be Satoshi Nakamoto because there a lot of speculations or theories who is really Satoshi Nakamoto and as of now we dont have anything like information about him but we all know that he doesnt have any bad intention by creating the first cryptocurreny and these days we use this technology to give better future in our own life and to under more better the real value of bitcoin


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: blackwell77 on August 12, 2018, 08:58:12 AM
I don't have faith on satoshi nakamoto. I think bitcoin and FBI have internal connection between them.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: samiraetn on August 12, 2018, 02:22:49 PM
I think satoshi nakamoto is not directly FBI. It’s a team which have particular task and encrypted world are mostly connected and observed by FBI. Then we can say it’s must have a connection with FBI`


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: LeGaulois on August 12, 2018, 02:35:08 PM
HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas

National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology

Cryptology Division

18 June 1996


http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

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I knew about this report and I love it, read it multiple times. Not because I like conspiracy theories but this paper is gold. On the top of that when you see it was written back in 2016... I hope a day I will be able to get time to find and read the references used in. Tatsuaki Okamoto is perhaps Satoshi alt-account, I would like to see Alex Jones to debate on this report lol


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Wall_Streeet on August 12, 2018, 03:18:37 PM
we will learn the truth too late, and I think this truth we will never know, and will know only our children


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: carlisle1 on August 12, 2018, 03:40:51 PM
Yes, Satoshi Nakamoto is FBI.  Tomorrow someone will ask same question but with other three letter-agencies.  Satoshi is DEA?  Satoshi work for KGB?  Satoshi NSA agent?  Bitcoin is DHS work?  Satoshi work for WTF?

Damn your a god fun maker dude i almost jump around reading this joke lol 😂😂😂

I dont know what's happening im crypto world now as lots of genius (of really consider as)are being here making their great theory..no wonder tomorrow satoshi nakamoto will be donald trumph 😂😂😂


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: meanwords on August 12, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
I do not think Satoshi Nakamoto is a person or a work of FBI. What I guess is that it is a group of professional developers trying to fight the centralized way of banks. But I think we would never know that. If That group wants to stay hidden, I guess let's just let them be. It has its purpose though and it served us well.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: Kprawn on August 12, 2018, 04:07:10 PM
It does not matter what agency is responsible for Bitcoin anymore, because they do not control or own it anymore. If these

agencies developed it, they failed miserably in their goal to control it. When I think about these conspiracy theories, I tend to

wonder about the need for the development of these technologies. What is in it for them? Then the theory falls flat, because

they have nothing to gain.  ::)


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: ETHTachometer on August 12, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
These are balderdash. Satoshi is not a part of FBI. Even if it is, it should not be made into an issues as long as we are not doing anything illegal or immoral with he coin for our own benefit which could be unethical.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: LeGaulois on August 12, 2018, 05:54:18 PM
It does not matter what agency is responsible for Bitcoin anymore, because they do not control or own it anymore. If these

agencies developed it, they failed miserably in their goal to control it. When I think about these conspiracy theories, I tend to

wonder about the need for the development of these technologies. What is in it for them? Then the theory falls flat, because

they have nothing to gain.  ::)

It depends on how you see it. If you consider the New world order and its motto, 1 world, 1 government, 1 currency... It makes sense to me, and you see what is the agency that written the report it gives another point to the theory... We are more and more going into a cashless society, we're more going to centralization, etc, See Europe, see it euro currency. Who know if EU wasn't used as their lab.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: avikz on August 12, 2018, 06:15:08 PM
HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas

National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology

Cryptology Division

18 June 1996


http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

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What is the significance of this report as a reply to OP's question?? I tried to read most of the article and read the conclusion with great interest. It looks like a research data of some Infosec employee of NSA on electronic cash system and cryptography. But this document certainly doesn't prove that cryptos are originated from NSA or any other security agencies (even though you haven't said that!).

I strongly believe that cryptos are not originated from FBI or NSA because if it was the case, they wouldn't have allowed it to increase its reach to the current level and would have killed it quite a long ago. The arguments that I have read in this forum or in other news websites, are not convincing at all.


Title: Re: What do you have faith in Satoshi Nakamoto? can FBI be Satoshi Nakomoto ?
Post by: PickwickRock on August 12, 2018, 06:21:40 PM
Well, that's just a theory right now which a lot of people tried to prove before you with their imagination but I would like to listen to someone who can actually come up with trusted sources and credible data or information to prove such claims. Though there has been a lot of speculation regarding SN but I am also curious like everyone else to know the real story.