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Title: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bbit on February 25, 2014, 03:53:23 AM
http://www.domaininvesting.com/andy-booth-sells-gox-com/

you can't make this shit up folks! enjoy the night its one for the history books!


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: btbrae on February 25, 2014, 03:55:14 AM
Haha I typed in goxxed.com and it redirected to Kraken.com ... awesome.


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: jr3951 on February 25, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
why would you buy a domain name in the same few days you apparently become insolvent?


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bbit on February 25, 2014, 03:55:43 AM
Haha I typed in goxxed.com and it redirected to Kraken.com ... awesome.
I saw one where it went to some parody site LOLz


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: igroock on February 25, 2014, 03:56:21 AM
omg its coming back? NO NO KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: lyth0s on February 25, 2014, 03:56:42 AM
Isn't the official website mtgox.com though?


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bbit on February 25, 2014, 03:56:55 AM
omg its coming back? NO NO KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

As one person put it "twitching, its still alive!" ....


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: pungopete468 on February 25, 2014, 03:56:59 AM
why would you buy a domain name the same night you apparently become insolvent?

They didn't just become insolvent... They've been insolvent since their USD bank accounts were appropriated by the FBI; they've been surviving by selling coins on other exchanges to cover operating expenses.


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: st4nl3y on February 25, 2014, 03:57:06 AM
just getting better and better..


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on February 25, 2014, 03:59:36 AM
why would you buy a domain name in the same few days you apparently become insolvent?

They still think they can come back, rebranded and customers are stupid enough to get goxxed a fourth (or is it fifth or sixth) time.

They won't be MtGox .... they will be Gox the new Bitcoin super exchange. Ready to sign up?



Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bbit on February 25, 2014, 04:06:15 AM
why would you buy a domain name in the same few days you apparently become insolvent?

They still think they can come back, rebranded and customers are stupid enough to get goxxed a fourth (or is it fifth or sixth) time.

They won't be MtGox .... they will be Gox the new Bitcoin super exchange. Ready to sign up?



they will start to trade LTC, or Dogecoin lol


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: repentance on February 25, 2014, 04:12:47 AM
why would you buy a domain name in the same few days you apparently become insolvent?

They still think they can come back, rebranded and customers are stupid enough to get goxxed a fourth (or is it fifth or sixth) time.


It's worked for them so far and it works for the dark markets.  You can't really blame them for believing that greed will over-ride common-sense when that's been their experience of Bitcoin users so far (people have continued depositing funds to MtGox even after withdrawals were halted, FFS).


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on February 25, 2014, 04:27:49 AM
The worst part is if they are insolvent they just spend god knows how much of depositors money on that domain name. 


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: Okilo on February 25, 2014, 04:36:16 AM
why would you buy a domain name in the same few days you apparently become insolvent?

They still think they can come back, rebranded and customers are stupid enough to get goxxed a fourth (or is it fifth or sixth) time.


It's worked for them so far and it works for the dark markets.  You can't really blame them for believing that greed will over-ride common-sense when that's been their experience of Bitcoin users so far (people have continued depositing funds to MtGox even after withdrawals were halted, FFS).

That's the thing I don't get. If it's too good to be true, it probably is. When all the other exchanges are trading >500, there must obviously be a reason mtgox is < 200 - a reason which we all now know.


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bitfreak! on February 25, 2014, 04:39:18 AM
The worst part is if they are insolvent they just spend god knows how much of depositors money on that domain name. 
Exactly... they're just digging a deeper hole for themselves because their future business model is not going to succeed.


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: dewdeded on February 25, 2014, 04:40:48 AM
http://bitcoinhistory.net/Gox_Crisis_Draft/statement-gox.com-domain-aq.png


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: franky1 on February 25, 2014, 04:41:47 AM
FUD

gox was registered using godaddy by a domain parker (now known under formal titles as domain investors.) if mtgox did buy it from the investor then it would contain kalyhost information.

seriously people are trying to create FUD as a game to see if they can get it into mainstream media. please will everyone start researching before posting


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: dewdeded on February 25, 2014, 04:42:59 AM
FUD

gox was registered using godaddy by a domain parker (now known under formal titles as domain investors.) if mtgox did buy it from the investor then it would contain kalyhost information.

seriously people are trying to create FUD as a game to see if they can get it into mainstream media. please will everyone start researching before posting
Bro, you are spreading FUD. See:

x@x ~/DL $ whois gox.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: GOX.COM
   Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
   Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
   Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
   Name Server: NS-1009.AWSDNS-62.NET
   Name Server: NS-1173.AWSDNS-18.ORG
   Name Server: NS-1637.AWSDNS-12.CO.UK
   Name Server: NS-345.AWSDNS-43.COM
   Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   Status: clientRenewProhibited
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   Updated Date: 24-feb-2014
   Creation Date: 10-oct-1997
   Expiration Date: 09-oct-2017

>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 04:42:01 UTC <<<

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

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by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
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The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
Domain Name: GOX.COM
Registry Domain ID: 816800_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-02-24 17:29:44
Creation Date: 1997-10-09 23:00:00
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-10-08 23:00:00
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Mark Karpeles
Registrant Organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
Registrant Street: Round Cross Shibuya 5F
Registrant Street: 11-6 Shibuya 2-Chome
Registrant City: Shibuya
Registrant State/Province: 13
Registrant Postal Code: 150-0002
Registrant Country: Japan
Registrant Phone: +0.345501529
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +0.3045206299
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: mark@tibanne.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Mark Karpeles
Admin Organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
Admin Street: Round Cross Shibuya 5F
Admin Street: 11-6 Shibuya 2-Chome
Admin City: Shibuya
Admin State/Province: 13
Admin Postal Code: 150-0002
Admin Country: Japan
Admin Phone: +0.345501529
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +0.3045206299
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: mark@tibanne.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Mark Karpeles
Tech Organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
Tech Street: Round Cross Shibuya 5F
Tech Street: 11-6 Shibuya 2-Chome
Tech City: Shibuya
Tech State/Province: 13
Tech Postal Code: 150-0002
Tech Country: Japan
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Name Server: NS-1009.AWSDNS-62.NET
Name Server: NS-345.AWSDNS-43.COM
Name Server: NS-1173.AWSDNS-18.ORG
Name Server: NS-1637.AWSDNS-12.CO.UK
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Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: hostmaster on February 25, 2014, 04:43:55 AM
;D this is it we speeding mt gox is back yeah


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: Warren on February 25, 2014, 04:45:59 AM
The worst part is if they are insolvent they just spend god knows how much of depositors money on that domain name. 

Agreed. That's a nice three letter .com domain and can't have been cheap.

Seems like really bad timing to me. Unless of course they actually still do hold all the funds and just need to sort themselves out and re-launch a more secure site. The chance of that seems pretty slim now though...


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: hellscabane on February 25, 2014, 04:48:14 AM
And the news gets more exciting by the minute. Wish I didn't have to go to sleep so soon. Meh...


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: franky1 on February 25, 2014, 04:53:59 AM

Bro, you are spreading FUD. See:


i can buy a domain and put in the name and address details of:
Jean Luc Picard
StarFleet
Outterspace

which prove nothing of actual ownership and control

but when you look at where the domain name is hosted... its NOT KALYHOST. which anyone that has been following bitcoin / mtgox long enough, knows that kalyhost is mark Karpeles.

if anything its just a promotional stunt, pure for the aim of keeping hope alive for those mtgox users locked from their funds



Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: CoinBrokers on February 25, 2014, 04:58:38 AM
That couldn't have been cheap, I say it cost him over $60k easily. But knowing the domaining industry for most of my adult life, the recent sale of BitcoinWallet.com and BitcoinWallets.com at $250k would have prompted the owner to raise prices considerably. So my best guess is $150k to $250k easily, if in fact he purchased it.



Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: dewdeded on February 25, 2014, 04:59:11 AM
Frank: I understand what you are saying and it's correct. It could be like you are saying, but it's not.

The domain was bought today, Mark obvious got other problems now then updating nameservers.


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bbit on February 25, 2014, 05:09:48 AM
And the news gets more exciting by the minute. Wish I didn't have to go to sleep so soon. Meh...

unbelievable isn't it!!  :o


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: bitfreak! on February 25, 2014, 05:15:33 AM
if anything its just a promotional stunt, pure for the aim of keeping hope alive for those mtgox users locked from their funds
So someone not affiliated with Mt. Gox purchased this domain for what would be a very hefty sum of money for the purpose of maintaining market confidence? Some how I'm just not buying that theory, the domaininvesting.com article seems pretty conclusive imo...


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: ISAWHIM on February 25, 2014, 05:20:13 AM
Frank: I understand what you are saying and it's correct. It could be like you are saying, but it's not.

The domain was bought today, Mark obvious got other problems now then updating nameservers.
Not to mention updating the security certificates for HTTPS connections. Takes a while for domains to propagate through the whole series of DNS broadcasters and even longer for SSL to confirm the new IP's as "gox" or "mtgox", or both.

Also not easy restructuring the whole website to use one, or the other, or both, as valid page-loads for accounts and forwarding.


Title: Re: Gox.com just sold! what a night!
Post by: repentance on February 25, 2014, 05:35:43 AM
The worst part is if they are insolvent they just spend god knows how much of depositors money on that domain name. 

You're forgetting Mark's arrogance/ego.  He would have absolutely assumed that someone would want to buy MtGox out (as if, given that they're knee-deep in legal shit for the foreseeable future) or that the heavyweights of the community would put together a rescue package. 

It's likely inconceivable to Mark that nobody regards the "mighty MtGox" as worth rescuing and that "community heavyweights" are distancing themselves from him and MtGox as fast as possible.  That MtGox is not going to be given "one more chance" is probably inconceivable to him.

How many times have you seen this before in business - an owner hanging on and hoping for miracles long past the point where it's become apparent to others that it's past the point of redemption?  Such behaviour almost inevitably makes things worse for creditors, but it's far from uncommon.