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Title: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Joeyvicky on August 10, 2018, 10:44:23 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: strongman8 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:10 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

I do not dump all my coins ever.  I keep a moon bag at all times of every coin I have ever worked for.  Also if the project is top notch and delivering a world class product they can punish the non believers as the price skyrockets.  If projects are blaming the workers for the bad outcome there may be a reason the project is dumping and it has nothing to do with the hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Om.monata on August 10, 2018, 11:07:50 PM
not true, because I think dumping coins can be caused because the platform has not run optimally. and this can show a coin journey that has not been stable, so the nominal coin obtained by participants is only a few percent of the total supply. it doesn't cause a big dump.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: CCIORACLE on August 10, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
I don't see bounty participants really dumping because they only get just a gist of total coins. But really hurts when i see my fellow investors claiming their coins are freely given of which i do not side with them.At least they waste time, energy and resources to earn them. For me bounty really help ico


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: juljon18 on August 11, 2018, 12:26:14 AM
I do agree that there is some dumping going on from the bounty hunters however they fulfilled their work duty so should be free to move forward as they see fit.  If the projects did not receive the quality work from the hunters they may have had a failed ICO so I hate to see hunters being shammed for profiting. 


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: bungutko on August 11, 2018, 12:39:09 AM
In the real world, there really are bounty hunters dump the ICO token right after they received their token reward since they are also in need of money but I believe it will not be 50% of the bounty participant who will do this. Each bounty hunters have their own reason for dumping and we need to respect their decision since they earned those token just like the other bounty hunters do.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: wpc143 on August 11, 2018, 01:59:56 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
In my own opinion, most of the reason why the price of a coin easily go down is because bounty participants will immediately sell their reward tokens onced the exchange is available. They don't care about it's future and all they want is to convert it into ETH or BTC and then into fiats. They are greedy enough to earned money.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: tonyja2017 on August 11, 2018, 02:05:23 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
Yes, they are part of the dumping of tokens. But that is the common need, we can not avoid it. If the project owner does not want their token to be depreciated, they can pay the bounty hunter ETH or Bitcoin.
That will avoid the ICO price drop.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Phinoy on August 11, 2018, 02:09:06 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
In my own opinion, most of the reason why the price of a coin easily go down is because bounty participants will immediately sell their reward tokens onced the exchange is available. They don't care about it's future and all they want is to convert it into ETH or BTC and then into fiats. They are greedy enough to earned money.

Dumping of coins it's not possible to the participants maybe some of them are jut to pull down bitcoin and othet bounties hunter are keep on working hard to have a bitter life not just dumping of coins that is so unprofessional manner to the people who are doing there good for the future.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Levin23 on August 11, 2018, 02:10:01 AM
indeed gift hunters are very influential on "dump coins", because most nbounty hunters always sell bounty tokens / coins that they have at low prices so that the price of coins becomes low. we as bounty hunters must know about this and start changing it.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: vonnyaries on August 11, 2018, 02:10:57 AM
no, i think its not true, cmon calculate together, when we join the bounty program we can see the reward of the whole prgoram is 1% from the token sale, imagine that the token sale raised $1 Million, so the bounty reward just $10.000 for all participant, so there are 99% in the inevstor hand right? is the 10000 USD change the price in the market? i think it doesnt change


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: uramadahan on August 11, 2018, 02:13:03 AM
ICOs reserves %1 of their supply generally for the bounties.So if it can cause of dumping their coins then it's not that great coin anyway. ::)


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: yndye on August 11, 2018, 02:13:37 AM
indeed gift hunters are very influential on "dump coins", because most nbounty hunters always sell bounty tokens / coins that they have at low prices so that the price of coins becomes low. we as bounty hunters must know about this and start changing it.

You cannot just totally blame it on bounty participants because if we observe the number of coins received by the participants, it's only a little percentage compared to the investors. And you should also remember that not all the bounty participants would immediately sell their coins because there are others who would wait for the coin to go higher to sell. Maybe the ones who are selling more are the investors, those who bought at pre-sale because they have more bonuses so most probably even if the price is below ICO, they are still in profit.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: iamMhew on August 11, 2018, 02:14:34 AM
Some of the bounty hunters are creating massive dump after the coins/tokens got listed. And obviously they are responsible for the dump of every newly finished ico. But there are few hunters held coins/tokens and waiting for the big pump.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Flor1982 on August 11, 2018, 02:15:36 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

This is a sad situation that the investors are always putting all the blame on bounty participants but they did not measure the fact that their huge bonuses and cheaper price during the ICO are the main reasons on why some of their investors participants are involved of dumping earlier too. I also heard that some ICOs are selling their token earlier to cover the ICOs expenses and also to ensure huge profit.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 11, 2018, 02:18:35 AM
Definitely not. Look at the ICOs. They devote 1% or a maximum of 2% of their tokens for the bounty campaigns. If the price of that token crash due to this 1%, then there is something seriously wrong with the ICO. And remember that not all of the bounty participants dump their tokens immediately.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: vuithoinha on August 11, 2018, 02:25:20 AM
You should remember that the amount of bountyhunter is very small, it can not be strong enough to influence the price of ICO for a long time. The drop in ICO prices is due to its inadequate appeal and poor development team


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: letsfly on August 11, 2018, 02:29:05 AM
One factor of dumping the coins is the development of the project. Also if the developer is no longer active , investors will most likely dump their coins.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: matchi2011 on August 11, 2018, 02:34:40 AM
Definitely not. Look at the ICOs. They devote 1% or a maximum of 2% of their tokens for the bounty campaigns. If the price of that token crash due to this 1%, then there is something seriously wrong with the ICO. And remember that not all of the bounty participants dump their tokens immediately.
Same here mate, a little portions alone can't dumped unless the dev itself dumping his shares, that's the only possibility that the coin will be dumped massively and continuously decreasing it's value when landed to any exchange site, most of pumped and dumped project act like this while real project have it's time table to keep on progressing and gained success.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: vekuty on August 11, 2018, 02:36:28 AM
I think that's a big cause. The current coin distributors should they lock the coin at a certain time to avoid dumping


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Fundalini on August 11, 2018, 02:44:39 AM
The allotted tokens for the bounty participants are very minimal--typically just 2-5% of the total token supply. This does not affect the market severely compared to the investors which obtained large bonuses in the pre-sale up to the main sale. In retrospect, investors got those token too for free so pointing fingers to the bounty participants is a dick move.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Adreman23 on August 11, 2018, 02:50:10 AM
No not really the bounty hunters the cause of dumping coins. You ask yourself to get the answer, who has the highest coin holders of the coins? Of course the team and devs..If you saw a huge dump probably the big bag holders dump thier shitcoin. They dont really care for the price, investors and the project because they are all scammers. Im not particularly pertaining that all dumping coins are scam projects, but some of them are scammer and we should avoid them as much as possible.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Roberttran on August 11, 2018, 02:51:50 AM
I think not. The bounty hunters usually only get very few token amounts. Usually 1 project only spends about 1% 2% token to reward hunters. It is too small for the total supply of the project. The dumping coins upon the exchange. I think the speculators. They do not intend to develop the same dev project. They only care about their pocket money.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Jaycee99 on August 11, 2018, 03:05:52 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

Yes It is possible because the bounty participants is doing some like selling and holding it, which means same as investors but which is holding it, selling it, "Buying" and  "trading" which means all are the posible cause of that the specific altcoin is moving for a high value and going for the low value charts in the altcoin's market value.

So in short all are to blame in the existence of the dumping of coins, which we can not predict if it is going for the win or lose scenario. Base on my other point of view when it loses its investors it goes bye bye they sell the altcoin lose hope because of the unpredicted value.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: letonys on August 11, 2018, 03:12:11 AM
That is the concern of many people and investors. The bounty participants sold their cards when starting to insist on the floor. There is a solution to this problem.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: bangkecol on August 11, 2018, 03:12:55 AM
actually, this is a big problem for the ico to face, why is that? many new bounty hunters do not follow the direction of market movements for investment, dumper is increasingly becoming at the moment, this is what makes investors really cautious. thus many ico have failed at this time, in fact, this is very unfortunate in my opinion.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: franciscoDC on August 11, 2018, 03:22:24 AM
Maybe because they are only want is to earn form working some bounty,but if i see that my bounty that i joined has a good future i will hold it and wait until the right time.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: putriliesma on August 11, 2018, 03:26:46 AM
Of course because in my opinion if the bounty hunters immediately get the coins, the price will immediately fall because the bounty hunter immediately sells the coins they get. Therefore, maybe the distribution of bounties might be good 3 months after the ICO.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: libert19 on August 11, 2018, 03:53:16 AM
Some people make living out of these bounties, they might be in need of money so they sell because they don't have any option otherwise.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: jeffer8035 on August 11, 2018, 04:07:02 AM
I believe that everything is based on supply and demand and that we receive rewards is because we work to push those currencies to the markets and we make them worth the investors and they fight each other so it is not the fault of the recipient of the reward. it is even expected almost until the last to sell therefore the supply and demand is the one that decides and the whales that buy many at the beginning all win in the long run those who develop it those who promote it and investors


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: fndsr on August 11, 2018, 04:38:36 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
maybe in my opinion the prize participants did not really affect the development of crypto currencies which might affect the amount of demand and sales of crypto currencies


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 11, 2018, 04:44:53 AM
people love to blame others for their own mistakes. they invest in shitcoins and scammy ICOs that were created to rip them off and when they lose money after the ICO dump came they want to find someone else to blame and who better than bounty participants that have a small share in the total tokens!

the reality is that the dumps are natural and they would have came either way as they have come to all the pumped altcoins.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Kenthunan_rondo on August 11, 2018, 05:30:09 AM
I don't think it's true, the ICO Project needs promotion, but developers don't always have money for it. And because the ICO itself assumes receipt of funds through tokens, then user assistance - in the form of promotions - can be obtained for tokens.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: MicaleFalcon on August 11, 2018, 05:31:02 AM
As far i know there is no connection between bounty campaign and dumping the value of coins but without knowledge people invest on scammy ICOs and blame others.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Lillian4real on August 11, 2018, 09:43:16 PM
Blaming one party in a crime is a form bias. Bounty hunters are not the only reason why prices go down in the market. Even some investors who are afraid to lose their investment dump the coins.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: jouns on August 11, 2018, 10:08:46 PM
I can tell you with confidence that as soon as the price of the token grows by 5% relative to the price of the token on the ICO, investors immediately begin selling their tokens, and some of them buy tokens with a big discount on PreICO. Bounty hunters can be paid for they hard work in Ethereum, but why does not anyone do it.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: melamiras on August 11, 2018, 10:15:11 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

There are a few things that ICO need to do to ensure a better intial momentum: firstly ensure that the market is at least flat when they finish ICO and then ensure that there is some real demand for the token.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: pozmu on August 11, 2018, 10:23:26 PM
I don't know the answer for your question, but it surely shouldn't happen with ICOs, devs should be aware of their coin distribution and allocate some funds for buy support.
But thinking for a moment, who's more likely to dump coins seeing price going down/ up - someone who invested substantial money to buy it or someone who got small share with little effort? In my opinion it's the former, nobody likes losing invested money and in case of market going up, losing potential profit.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: vv181 on August 12, 2018, 12:23:00 PM
99% ICO is damned to fail, and the majority of the bounty hunter is only aiming for a quick buck, the majority of them does not really care about what the project really is, they will just immediately convert to FIAT or BTC/ETH as soon as they received the token.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Bitdressa on August 12, 2018, 12:29:18 PM
not really. because we just want to make the coin function properly as well as not to fulfill it, but we only get the prize.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: mrPix on August 12, 2018, 12:34:46 PM
I've noticed it too. What are investors waiting? Everyone has its own needs.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: bigcash2011 on August 12, 2018, 12:40:07 PM
Most of the time its the greedy investors that try to flip and take profit from every other ico, they invest in big bonus phases and sell their coins as soon as they are listed somewhere and take profit in the form of bonus which they also sell and dump the overall value of the coin, bounty hunters also have a dumping effect but i think nowadays bounty rewards are not that big too cause major dumps.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: kingdomofhearts on August 12, 2018, 12:43:02 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

Well, I cannot say that the bounty hunters selling their tokens right away is NOT the cause of the dumping of the market value of a specific ICO. It contributes, however it is not the major determinant in this equation.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: auroboros on August 12, 2018, 12:44:43 PM
I think that is just the reason for the developers, they blame the bounty participants, because dumping occurs if investors have lost confidence and immediately sell all the assets they have, and that will make it all end


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Wale777 on August 12, 2018, 01:08:41 PM
Bounty participants are not really the cause of dumping coins because of these reasons,  firstly bounty participants only get 1-3% of the total tokens sold which is very insignificant part of the whole coins in supply and secondly ICOs investors are offered huge bonuses which contributes largely to dumping in market because they can sell below ICO price and still get good profit


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: verita1 on August 12, 2018, 01:13:56 PM
I do not know for sure what the cause is, I can only think that  the bounty hunters get only between 2% to 5% of the distribution of the tokens and it is impossible for only this minority to drop the prices of these tokens. I think that there must be other factors such as the Exchange platform, some say that there is manipulation of prices and the development of the Product also influence. The crypto community will support projects that are really useful. A strong and full project in operation so that their token acquires a good price and is a process that takes time.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Coroline on August 12, 2018, 01:15:31 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
in my opinion it is not true, because bounty participants are only given 1-5% of the total token, the problem that causes dumping is the number of sales rather than purchases and they doubt it and race to sell their tokens, so back to the development concept whether it will potential


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Bumidinasty on August 12, 2018, 01:18:17 PM
in my opinion, the cause of the coin price fell not because the bounty hunters dumped, but many of the factors that affected the coin dropped, probably because the market price is now down it also affects the entire price of the coin.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: profitgenerator212 on August 12, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
I don't know. But for the bounty I know only about 2%, that figure can not make the coin dumped. If all bounty hunters sell together at the same time. The coin can go down a bit, but it did not affect much. Coin devaluation is caused by investors and the market


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: odessit1377 on August 12, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
Indeed, many bounty hunters, after receiving their reward, sell their tokens on the exchanges at a much lower price than bounty companies. This leads to a large devaluation of the coin, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Btcirene88 on August 12, 2018, 01:34:41 PM
In fairness to all persons concerned, I don't think we have to blame the dump to participants alone because what they get is just a percentage of what the managers and investors get and it is not freely given for it has been exerted with effort and time. All has investments in any form and all has contribution to the succes of the project.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: kier010 on August 12, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
both bounty participants and investors have the coins so we can't blame only the bounty participants. investors also sell their coins and they have a large portion of coins compared to bounty participants. price also depends on the project even there are many selling their coins if it has demand price will still go up.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Stella27 on August 12, 2018, 01:38:24 PM
Yes i agree, there are lot of bounty participants who causes the value of the coin to dump because some are selling it below the ico price. But most projects only gives 2% budget for bounty, so i guess that will not really affect the token, in the beginning yes, but after that, the price would stabilize


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: shiming on August 12, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
This is to distinguish whether the value of this project is not worth it. Now a lot of bounty. Do not give coins. There are still some real projects. Of course there are also projects, just for ICO. Hey. Not good at making money.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: flyingcat on August 12, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
This is obvious because the mentality of the bounty participants is always frightened after the distribution, the Token rates will drop rapidly. So after receiving the Token from the bounty, they will immediately sell, and this makes the Token rates after listing on the exchange floors fall disastrously!


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: plr on August 12, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

Not only bounty participants but investors also who got pre-sale bonus and even dev they dump their share in the market, sometimes these devs are the one buying their coins in their Ico and dump it when it hit the market, so there are different kinds of holders why the coin is being dumped


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: tableofcontents on August 12, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
Yes i agree, there are lot of bounty participants who causes the value of the coin to dump because some are selling it below the ico price. But most projects only gives 2% budget for bounty, so i guess that will not really affect the token, in the beginning yes, but after that, the price would stabilize

The main purpose I think why bounty hunters dump their coin right away is because they joined the campaign to earn money out of it but not necessarily thinking about investing.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: trumper on August 12, 2018, 02:09:38 PM
Definetely not it just may cause a little dump which is temporary, and not in every coin. Coins are dumped because they are not needed.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: gabmen on August 12, 2018, 02:21:09 PM
Yes i agree, there are lot of bounty participants who causes the value of the coin to dump because some are selling it below the ico price. But most projects only gives 2% budget for bounty, so i guess that will not really affect the token, in the beginning yes, but after that, the price would stabilize

The main purpose I think why bounty hunters dump their coin right away is because they joined the campaign to earn money out of it but not necessarily thinking about investing.

And i agree that there's really a small percentage that goes to bounties for an initial offering so even if all bounty hunters dump their tokens, i don't think it'll cause a serious decline. Investors are the ones who would have that effect on a project not bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Zykexia on August 12, 2018, 02:23:13 PM
Probably the hunters are the one who will cause the dumping of the token, and this is not good to the project token, it might ruined the projects future if it has.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: jiandong on August 12, 2018, 02:26:07 PM
Gift hunters also have a dumping effect but I think the rewards of today's prizes aren't too big causing a big dump.
Greedy investors who try to flip and profit from each other, they invest in large bonus phases and sell their coins as soon as they are registered in a place and take advantage in the form of bonuses that they sell and throw away the overall value of the coin,


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Clearstream on August 12, 2018, 02:32:37 PM
i do not think so. Most bounty tokens account for between 1% and 5% of the total token. the number of tokens that bounty hunters can sell is limited. it does not cause large fluctuations in the price of coins. i think ICO investors can really influence the price of coins.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Merdeop on August 12, 2018, 02:57:41 PM
There's some truth to that. Many bounty hunters sell coins immediately after the coins are listed. But they have the right to. Bounty hunters spend their time to promote the project and get paid for it. Prices are mainly influenced by the General market situation.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Argoo on August 12, 2018, 03:12:00 PM
A certain portion of the bounty hunters do sell their received free tokens, which they receive as a result of joining the ICO signature campaign or to other kinds of generosity ICO. However, I do not think that this could significantly reduce the price of the new token. As a rule, two to five percent of the released tokens are allocated to the ICO generosity campaign. This is not enough to have a decisive impact on the price of the token on the exchange. I think that investors play a significant role here, who buy tokens first with a significant discount, which is up to 50 percent of the token's value. When the token is transferred to the exchange, they immediately sell them and receive 200 percent of the profit. They can have a much greater impact on lowering the price of the token.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Romich93 on August 12, 2018, 03:18:30 PM
Indeed, many bounty hunters sell their coins immediately upon receipt. However, at the moment, I think the prices are affected by a negative trend in the market. Also, the price can be greatly influenced by the idea of the project.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: fempat on August 12, 2018, 03:21:15 PM
It's true that bounty hunters dump their tokens immediately after they receive it, but I don't think it's their dumps that make the prices fall so hard. Afterall, bounty yijens account for about 1-2% of the tokens sold.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: arrmia11 on August 12, 2018, 03:23:21 PM
There are a lot of reason why the coins are dumping and we must not blame that to the bounty participants. Actually, whether they dumped it or not, it's up to their decision since they've earn that through working on those projects. But again, it is not just because of dumping by the hunters rather there are some reasons such as the ICO investors who doesn't want to lose and have a bunch of token holdings and decided to dump it.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: rockybar on August 12, 2018, 03:29:47 PM
if we just look at mate bounty hunters hunt some bounty to earn some token or coins that they can sell and convert it to Fiat. bounty hunters are not investors or holders to hold until it will be to the Moon. and as we look at bounty allocation is very to small to dump the price of every project.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: krishnaverma on August 12, 2018, 03:31:37 PM
I do not think that this is the major cause of price drop. This is because even bitcoin prices are dropping. And we do not see bitcoin being distributed in an Airdrop now.

The reasons currently are quite strong as they have kept prices in check for so long.




Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: lamthanh3462342 on August 12, 2018, 03:33:55 PM
I do not think so. Why blame the bounty participants? While bounty participants are the main force in the governing ICO. Having a strong marketing team to attract new investors to the project. Investors have a tendency to think that it is the bounty itself that causes the dumping of coins, so I think they should rethink many aspects. The dumping of coins is due to the application of ICO that does not run perfectly optimized than what set out.  :) ;)


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: LiquorBan on August 12, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
Bounty participants which has rewarded a huge ammount of token rewards will be dumping when they are listed in the exchanges and this is not good to the tokens and also for the investors.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Successmaniac4 on August 12, 2018, 03:48:03 PM
At times yes, but we cannot blame them for dumping all the tokens. I believe the percentage given to bounty hunters is very small and even if they dump their coins, it will not have a huge effect on the price of the coin.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: cherry yu on August 12, 2018, 03:58:33 PM
i am a bounty hunter and i dont think so that all bounty participant are dumper. 'coz i myself i dont dump my token after i recieved from the ico. maybe some of the hunter are dump it right away 'coz they have the reason why they immediately sell thier token. many bounty participant are still holding thier coins . so, if some bounty dump thier coins..just respect thier decision because we dont know the reason behind,


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: ArkiCrypto on August 12, 2018, 04:33:03 PM
Of course no doubt that it's all the bounty participants that caused the price dropping of a certain project, well I've been here in the forum for the couple of months and to observe the things... here's what I've found out.

1. Most of the bounty hunters have more than 1 accounts.
2. Once the project hits an exchange they will sell it immediately (They're afraid that their profits will go into waste if they hold the token for too long)

The fact that running a bounty campaign is one of the best thing in order to gain traffic from users of cryptos but one of the most risky way for a project because of the bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: AdoboCandies on August 12, 2018, 04:38:03 PM
Well that's partly true bounty participants usually dump their coins when the ICO has finished or when they entered an exchange but sometimes they usually buy back when the price is low that is their strategy dump high and buy back when the price is low but remember the bounty hunters are a good thing in the ICO they truly help the ICO when it comes to advertising and also in marketing but there are some hodlers so don't generalize the bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Treasurer on August 12, 2018, 04:39:37 PM
Ideally, investors (holders of the largest number of tokens), and all other token holders (bounty hunters, team members) should enable the project to unwind so that the users of the platform have a demand for tokens. After that, everyone would be interested in selling tokens on the exchange at a favorable rate. In reality, investors specifically buy tokens during the IRS bonus, in order to be the first to drop tokens on the exchange. The price of the token is not always profitable for investors.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: happy weblancer on August 12, 2018, 04:45:39 PM
Of course no doubt that it's all the bounty participants that caused the price dropping of a certain project, well I've been here in the forum for the couple of months and to observe the things... here's what I've found out.

1. Most of the bounty hunters have more than 1 accounts.
2. Once the project hits an exchange they will sell it immediately (They're afraid that their profits will go into waste if they hold the token for too long)

The fact that running a bounty campaign is one of the best thing in order to gain traffic from users of cryptos but one of the most risky way for a project because of the bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters can't cause a drop in prices for a token because they own a maximum of 2% of the total number of tokens. And certainly, all hunters don't rush to sell them at the same time. 2% can't affect the price of the token in any way! But investors can!


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Aksiyon1 on August 12, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
Bounty pool accounts for a very small part of the coin releases. I don't think bounty hunter is the cause of dumping coin. If that coin doesn't recover after dumping coin, you should ask why it is so?  The reason is that coin doesn't attract investors. If bounty hunters sell coins, investors can buy them cheaply. Logically, this would be beneficial to investors.





Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: anti76 on August 12, 2018, 05:15:07 PM
Let's see what bounty pool is allocated from General fees.Basically it is 1-3%.How can this amount affect the price of a coin?I can also say with confidence that many participants of the bounty do not sell their coins.So blame the participants wrongly bounty.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: senopratama on August 12, 2018, 05:36:10 PM
many have blamed it for the bounty hunter. but when looking at the allocation given to the bounty hunter I think it is not the completely wrong bounty hunter. They also have things to sell and of course, the overall allocation is not great. There are other factors and the bounty hunter just a small part of it.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: imteaz on August 12, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Bounty hunter has nothing to do with the current market situation, bounty hunters is only 0.01% compare with other real investors, so it is impossible for hunters to bring down the price. However, i hope the market will come back strong and we will have a great time again.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on August 12, 2018, 08:26:41 PM
many have blamed it for the bounty hunter. but when looking at the allocation given to the bounty hunter I think it is not the completely wrong bounty hunter. They also have things to sell and of course, the overall allocation is not great. There are other factors and the bounty hunter just a small part of it.
If someone is blaming the market situation to bounty hunters they are just dumb, they are just a small percentage of the entire structure and if the token has a strong base and vision these bounty hunters cannot be a major factor, i am not involved in any bounty programs for coins or tokens yet and i am not interested in it as there are ton of fake bounties. The real fact is that the market is in a tangle with regulations coming up and so on.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: gavikzal on August 12, 2018, 10:45:56 PM
Many bounty hunters sell the coins they received immediately after the coins are listed. But I do not think that such a small part of the coins can affect the decline in prices. Most likely the reason is in the projects themselves and in the global decline of cryptocurrency prices.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: the rise on August 12, 2018, 10:58:43 PM
Actually, all the time problems are unfortunate if a project experiences a long dump, because there are so many new ICOs that have bad prices because of the market conditions that cause it all, if we blame the bounty hunters it is certainly not wise because not all Hunter bounties will do that and I think there are still many gift hunters who really see the potential of the project to continue to grow, and if I see many tokens that have bad prices caused by initial listing prices and less solid project communities, and for investors must be able to maintain the price ecosystem because they have an important role because they have a large number of tokens.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: stefven on August 12, 2018, 11:32:32 PM
usually, bounty hunters will immediately sell the coins that they get even though the price is cheap. surely, itt will make the price of coins on the market become cheap and make investors suffer huge losses. it would be better if we look at the market before selling coins so we can make a profit from it.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Coin-1 on August 12, 2018, 11:47:30 PM
Let's see what bounty pool is allocated from General fees.Basically it is 1-3%.How can this amount affect the price of a coin?I can also say with confidence that many participants of the bounty do not sell their coins.So blame the participants wrongly bounty.

Some bounty hunters sell their earned tokens for a ridiculous price, because they have no time to wait until the token will grow on the crypto exchange markets. They buy the very cheap orders and sometimes the price is dumped down to 10% for a short period. Nowadays some ICO teams delay the transferring a tokens to the bounty hunters. Thus, the bounty hunters can dump the price but only if they will create an massive downward trend.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Ulermom on August 18, 2018, 12:44:50 PM
More often than not its the ravenous financial specialists that endeavor to flip and take benefit from each other ico, they put resources into huge extra stages and offer their coins when they are recorded some place and take benefit as reward which they likewise offer and dump the general estimation of the coin, abundance seekers additionally have a dumping impact however I think these days abundance rewards are not that huge too cause real dumps.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: fulled on August 18, 2018, 01:09:06 PM
remeber buyer at presale or private sale who get discount, they can be dumpers too, but yest mostly of the dumpers is a newbie bounty and airdrop participant, profesional bountier will hodl their reward atleast till hit ico price


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: michael23 on August 18, 2018, 04:12:12 PM
Bounty hunters are just a good outlet for project developers. Tokens fall in price because they sell too early and such other things are just excuses.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: criptoman83 on August 18, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
No need to blame the bounty hunters in the drawdown of the price, these people worked for the benefit of the project and got their "salary" and their right to sell or hold the asset for long term. In all the drawdowns , you can blame the bearish trend, when almost all the coins fall in price. Or a project that doesn't keep promises and investors begin to lose patience and faith.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Eclipse2021 on August 18, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
This is not true as bounty hunters alone cannot do a dump like that. It is true that some of them are selling after the launch but this has nothing to do with dumps.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Ayobami99 on August 18, 2018, 04:38:33 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
Yea you are partly right,  bounty participants really do dump but not all. They some cause the dumps but not all,  sometimes its really the fault of the project team giving enormous bonuses is one of the major cause


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Aponkye1 on August 18, 2018, 04:42:42 PM
Hmm, that is the harsh truth man and i really don't understand why some bounty hunters do that anyway. Just for the sake of some few bucks you just decide to sell your coins so cheaply which further brings the attractiveness of the project down. Please let's desist from such habits.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: vandeam on August 20, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
Yes, but it doesn’t happen always. If the founders come out on the good stock exchanges with the big volume and after it they give you bounty tokens this will not affect the current price. Also they can give awards in Ethereum tokens and this will not affect the price in any way.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: valuater on August 20, 2018, 01:12:12 PM
In my opinion, bounty hunters are not too influential, but the ones who influence are their own ico issues such as their exchanger that only exists in dex, their products that have not yet been published, their delayed platform


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Potatohead on August 20, 2018, 01:16:00 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?


Most of the bounty hunters I know are just holding their coins because they would want to gain a better profit through it in time. If there are people who knows about a certain project well that would be bounty hunters because upon joining, they already have an idea of the project flow. I think dumping would also affect the future platform of the project so bounty hunters are also trying to avoid it.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: carlisle1 on August 20, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

Lol bounty participants are just small part of token/coins receiver because the investors relieved large volume amd they are are one who solds immediately after receiving their part so i dont see any reason why putting the blame for the hunters


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: my1st on August 20, 2018, 02:20:32 PM
In such a falling market, everybody dumping coins - bounty participants, investors, traders. But I can not understand - who are these people who invests in ICO projects.
And many projects reaches softcap. This is a mystery for me.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: angaper on September 16, 2018, 11:45:10 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

I have always defended the idea that it is impossible for the participants of the bounties to be guilty of the drastic fall in the prices of the tokens because in most cases, the ICOs offer only 1% of the tokens created, which means that even if all the bounty hunters decided to sell their tokens simultaneously at the first opportunity, the effect on the price would be minimal.

Therefore, enough of those unfair attacks on the bounty hunters. In any case, the contribution they make to the ICO market by collaborating in the dissemination of their projects is very important and significantly cheaper than what a professional marketing company could charge.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: PASCAL1 on September 19, 2018, 07:32:51 PM
Not all bounty participants are dumpers some of them are in bounty campaign for coin accumulation and stable price in future. The only cause of dumping coins are speculator traders and dumping platforms plus also weak projects with low volume on some weak exchangers all this result to dumping. Bounty hunters most of them are focusing on accumulation because the rewards they receive are too small to affect price untill they wait for them to mature.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: lKSLMNSLKnkndlksnkJ on September 19, 2018, 07:43:58 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

In my opinion, the primary dumpers in most projects are the early masternode buyers, or investors, as they try to recoup the money spent on the MN or ICO as soon as possible at any cost to the project.  Plus early MN and ICO investors typically get the most early rewards/bonuses, so they tend to not really give a hoot about projects.  It happens whenever anyone has too much of anything; they lose respect for it.

Add in the fact that 90% of projects reach price highs in the first few days after the first exchange listing, which is another commonly known effect these days, and everyone in the know scrambles to sell whatever they can asap, because after that, the only choice is to hold long term, and most folks don't have the patience to wait 2 or 3 years for a good project to mature.

And, when you look at bounty amounts, the developers are riding a fine line between giving out too much and not doing enough to get the word out properly.  Unfortunately, greed is a pervasive feature of the crypto world, and until the masses begin to pile in, the market will be subject to these types of actions by individuals unmoored by greed and selfishness.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: mari12 on September 25, 2018, 02:15:07 AM
Most times, it seems like they are. They play a huge role in this, and cause a dip in the prices of these coins. A lot of us bounty hunters are quick to sell off our coins or tokens immediately after we receive them, and it is usually not fair on these coins. We have a reasonable amount allocated to us, and dumping these coins are no good for them.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: seanjoseph on September 25, 2018, 02:38:36 AM
most of them yes, but not all of bounty participant cause dumping coins.
because after bounty participant get their token, they will sell it immediately.
they want to quick money.
that's why the price of that coins dumping.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: reality18 on September 25, 2018, 02:41:06 AM
The massive dump of a coin does not come from bounty hunters. Bounty hunters only hold a small percentage of the entire coins generated for a project. The dump comes from the team and ICO investors who hold large percentage of the tokens.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: kicauklaten on September 25, 2018, 03:02:49 AM
Maybe I am so hesitant about it. but the fact is indeed a great many cases it is true it is. the bounty hunter always sells massively coins they have simultaneously when it has already entered into the market. This caused the price of the market is down in large and even much of the estimated price. but the problem is getting a small allocation of bounty so I thought it would be hard to believe if the bounty is a major influence of the downturn happened.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: ice18 on September 25, 2018, 03:10:22 AM
Of course not bounty token allocations are just so little compared to those sold on ico 1% dump cannot really affect the price of a coin, in just 5 days it can recovered if all bounty coins dumped but its not actually the cause of it  I think its the investors the bag holders and the developers themselves who want to move on for their huge losses in the bear market they dumped and exchange their coins for the good and promising one.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: vebby on September 25, 2018, 03:23:12 AM
I think it is precisely nothing to do. Why should affect. the bounty participant this only helps the passage of ICO in order to get more and more investors. has nothing to do with the price of coins that slump I think.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: universal3ee on September 25, 2018, 03:41:52 AM
I does not think all the responsibility lies on the hunter as recently we see that a number of exchanges dumping ethereum although it is not their coins but the big drop of ethereum price will inevitably affect the confidence level of various coins user and even the whole crypto market. Me as a bounty hunter does not always just dump the coins after i receive it, there might be some good sheeps among the bad sheep and bad sheep among the good sheep, investors can also be the ones that is dumping the coins.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Soundy on September 25, 2018, 03:55:07 AM
Not true, I think there are many reasons why holders do dump a token or coin but I think the main reason is huge percentage discount that was given to some investors during private sale and presale.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Tylev on September 25, 2018, 03:56:40 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
The fault of investors themselves in the fall of new tokens in the price when listing them on the exchange can be much more than the fault of the participants in the generosity campaign ICO. The participants in the generosity campaign ICO are allocated a few percent of the volume of tokens produced and besides, not all of them immediately sell their free tokens. Many of them expect that tokens will increase, in price and keep them. In addition, from my personal experience, I know that recently, when bounty hunters get these tokens, then by the time the price of tokens has decently gone down and it's simply pointless to sell them on the market.
 I think that it is investors who are responsible for the fall in the price of new tokens when transferring them to the stock exchange. They buy new tokens at the beginning of the ICO process with discounts of 40-50 percent and it is very profitable for them to immediately sell them at an ICO price, receiving up to 200 percent of the profits. And they have a great opportunity for this in time. Therefore, you do not need to shift your guilt to bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: mobireal on September 25, 2018, 07:36:00 AM
Yes bounty hunters are even annoying sometimes why because after participating in there bounty work the won't hesitate to sell it off which makes that coin drops.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Sanjida on September 25, 2018, 11:41:50 AM
No it's not true I think some of the bounty hunters are forming onerous dump after the coins.but it doesn’t ensue  always.it they give you bounty tokens this will not affect the current worth.they some occasion the dumps but not all.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: doedz on October 06, 2018, 05:06:57 AM
No, not the bounty hunters but the investors who made the dump price.
We can see and prove that there are only 1-2% of bounty hunter allocations from the total token sales.
Is it possible with a bounty hunter that only 2% can make a coin price dump up to 50%? LOL.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Adreman23 on October 06, 2018, 05:20:50 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
No. Bounty hunters are not the main reason why token/coins are dumping once it get listed on exchange. I think the main reason  is no demands or no new buyers of the coins/tokens so the result is huge selling. The most important factor to consider when choosing best coin is the marketing strategy of the team. In order for one project to grow the price it needs new investors or buyers. If marketing strategy is not effective the result is no demand and of course the price of token/coins also dump.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: btc_angela on October 08, 2018, 07:34:11 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?
No. Bounty hunters are not the main reason why token/coins are dumping once it get listed on exchange. I think the main reason  is no demands or no new buyers of the coins/tokens so the result is huge selling. The most important factor to consider when choosing best coin is the marketing strategy of the team. In order for one project to grow the price it needs new investors or buyers. If marketing strategy is not effective the result is no demand and of course the price of token/coins also dump.

I disagree, we all know for a fact that bounty hunters wanted to get the reward for their hard work. Just imagine working 4-8 months straight without any pay. Of course the moment you got the chance to make money out of the project then by all means they will do a dump. If there's no demand it means the project sucks or doesn't have real usage that's why bounty hunters/investors needed to offload it to get their investment backs (time and money).


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: NewRanger on October 08, 2018, 07:36:40 AM
No, not the bounty hunters but the investors who made the dump price.
We can see and prove that there are only 1-2% of bounty hunter allocations from the total token sales.
Is it possible with a bounty hunter that only 2% can make a coin price dump up to 50%? LOL.
investors psychology influenced by bounty hunter action when they dumping coins.after bounty hunter dumped their token, much investor worru about their investment if it continue.and finaly followed this action too.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: asus09 on October 08, 2018, 07:43:51 AM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?


Yes, it is true. but good teams and developers have a strategy for that, because after all that will happen after the reward has been shared throughout the campaign. dumping will never be avoided.
that's why it happened, because ico is not good or everything you want. the influence of investors can also be a factor. investing in ico is currently more in the mode of quickly looking for wealth, why is there a lot of dumping going on.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: universal3ee on October 08, 2018, 07:45:40 AM
Maybe some of them are but definitely not all the bounty hunters will do this, mass bounty hunters have a higher possibility of dumping the coins after they receive it why i say so is because if a bounty hunter is not doing mass bounty a high chance that he really do research on the ICO he is participating in, whereas mass bounty hunter will participate in whatever bounty they are able to find. However dumping of coins does not only restrict to bounty hunter only like recently we see many sell off from ICO or even investors.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: dubynin1990 on October 08, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
I'm sure it's not the hunters, see how many projects allocate funds to bounty campaign, where 2-3% is the maximum that I have seen is 5%. Many hunters do not sell your coins expecting bigger profits in the future. And do you really think that these 2% bring down the price? I think bring down the price of early investors, who first participated in the ICO and got a big bonus and after the IPO coins, sell all your stocks. This is a more realistic picture of the hunters here are not guilty of anything, they are ordinary, hardworking people


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Golftech on October 08, 2018, 07:53:39 AM
No, not the bounty hunters but the investors who made the dump price.
We can see and prove that there are only 1-2% of bounty hunter allocations from the total token sales.
Is it possible with a bounty hunter that only 2% can make a coin price dump up to 50%? LOL.
investors psychology influenced by bounty hunter action when they dumping coins.after bounty hunter dumped their token, much investor worru about their investment if it continue.and finaly followed this action too.
Those who got the coins from pre selling period are mostly the one causing the dumped they have a lots of coins so when it reached exchange
they can easily sell it with ico value plus the bonuses that they've got buying it with pre sale value, bounty hunters can influence only if they've
moved investors to panic while the coins still new inside the exchange.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: BobBct on October 08, 2018, 09:21:47 AM
It is one of the biggest factors on why a coin is dumping in the start because most of the bounty hunters tend to sell it asap when it goes live on an exchange but if i were you i will hold that coin and you can easily earn thousands or even millions of dollars on that coin.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: _Flynn_ on October 09, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
In my mind, bounty participants not the main cause of dumping coins, because I saw numerous situations, when the price of coins were below ICO`s price and bounty hunters didn't get their rewards.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Genemind on October 09, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

It has some effect however, we all know that only a portion of the total supply is distributed for the bounty, and not all bounty hunters dump their tokens right away. I think it's most investors fault. Some investors want quick profit, as soon as a coin hits an exchange some investors sell what they have bought since they had a big discount for buying early stage in the ICO.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: worldofcoins on October 09, 2018, 09:18:28 PM
I don't thin that's a clear reason for the coin dumps. Yh, fair enough there is a lot of spamming created by those individuals but nonetheless they do not control the way people view future potential development.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Zadicar on October 09, 2018, 09:20:26 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

It has some effect however, we all know that only a portion of the total supply is distributed for the bounty, and not all bounty hunters dump their tokens right away. I think it's most investors fault. Some investors want quick profit, as soon as a coin hits an exchange some investors sell what they have bought since they had a big discount for buying early stage in the ICO.
Bounty hunters is always on the blame when they do saw price dump when tokens do hit up exchangers without even considering that investors are the ones who do make such big impact on price movements of a certain coin. Cashing out to secure profits and this is the main motive on why we would really invest to ICO. Knowing that bounty allocation is just 1-2% on the entire supply and i cant think on how they would really make affect and to be blamed of?


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: macit800 on October 09, 2018, 09:32:41 PM
It can be a reason that bounty hunters sell there earnings immediately, but coins need to look at their bonus structure during the token sale because in the first phases it can be very high.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Cryptrx on October 09, 2018, 09:39:16 PM
It's sad that bounty hunters usually get the blame when a coin is not performing forgetting that huge investors who got bogous bonuses easily sell off once the coin is listed. Bounty hunters are only paid a fraction of what these investors get as bonus, most time bounty hunters are paid months after the coin has been listed.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: white_star on October 09, 2018, 09:39:22 PM
It can be a reason that bounty hunters sell there earnings immediately, but coins need to look at their bonus structure during the token sale because in the first phases it can be very high.
In majority,the causes of dump in market are those investors and participants in where they are already afraid for those scams and hackers .But as market will bounceback again I believe they will able to comeback for the opportunities in earning money.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: identifyuser on October 10, 2018, 12:29:19 PM
Have you seen the approximate volumes that appear on the exchanges on the first day of trading? It is a much higher percentage of bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: asriloni on October 10, 2018, 12:41:17 PM
For my little exposure to some ICO's has made me notice from many investors apportioning most blame on bounty participant as the main cause of dumping coin on market far less than ICO prices. Some claim since they really dash them the coin for free they really do not care about the market but rather dump them and go their way leaving the fate of genuine investors and managers at the mercy of this dumped coins. But i  truly believe that bounty participant really engage their time and earn these coins of which some really don't dump just like that. What is the actual cause of dumping of most ICO coins, is it a matter of bounty participant, investors or on the part ICO managers concept of plan for these coins?

It has some effect however, we all know that only a portion of the total supply is distributed for the bounty, and not all bounty hunters dump their tokens right away. I think it's most investors fault. Some investors want quick profit, as soon as a coin hits an exchange some investors sell what they have bought since they had a big discount for buying early stage in the ICO.
Bounty hunters is always on the blame when they do saw price dump when tokens do hit up exchangers without even considering that investors are the ones who do make such big impact on price movements of a certain coin. Cashing out to secure profits and this is the main motive on why we would really invest to ICO. Knowing that bounty allocation is just 1-2% on the entire supply and i cant think on how they would really make affect and to be blamed of?
Basically if that new coin doesn't have a lot of daily trade volume and then the bounty hunters will create such a big dump because there was no a lot of orders in the market that can prevent it. That depends on how much the daily trade volume that acquired by that new coin because a lot of bounty hunters are impatience person


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: 67semih on October 10, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
Not all of them dump. Some of them keep their coins for future. Because they know hodling is the best strategy in crypto markets.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: NORD YGGDRASIL on October 10, 2018, 01:19:05 PM
This is a well-established erroneous opinion that it is the participants of the bounty who are responsible for the fall in price when the coin appears on the market. But this is a fallacy. Anyone who thinks so is a victim of untruthful information.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Krendom on October 10, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
At the first time they know how bounty work.some hunter need fresh money and some hunter will hold their altcoin. Bounty program reserve only 1-10%, yes its will dump for the first distribution to bounty but it's only for several days.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: msbtrooper on October 10, 2018, 02:02:50 PM
This is not true because we have so many coins which the prices didn't dump and bounty participants also dump. So many factors behind the cause of price dump. Most of those coins doesn't have clear cut usecase which can help make the demand for such coin to increase because increase in demand translate to increase in price.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: swartzias on October 10, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Of course not. I'll tell you a secret, projects pay much more exchanges for the appearance of the coin than the percentage that they pay bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Considered on October 17, 2018, 10:32:18 AM
Sometimes they are the ones that end up dumping the coins and other times they are not the ones,now you cannot say that bounty hunters are the ones causing the price dump of the coins since the projects are not even paying out the coins that they have promised so there is no coin to dump in the first place. Prices of coins dump, it is normal


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: raghovsing34 on October 17, 2018, 10:36:36 AM
According to me, sometimes it happens. Cause if any projects provide bounty campaign and give payments to all bounty hunters. Then after project get listed on exchange bounty hunters start selling coin very fastly. That's why price of that coin dump badly.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Gwyn on October 17, 2018, 12:25:24 PM
In my view, early investors were rewarded. These dumping are often released by them. It's not bounty hunters dumping.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: bangkecol on October 19, 2018, 06:45:53 PM
Bounty participants can naturally use the coins given, they have worked to spend time and energy, no money is wasted to be distributed to the bounty participants. maybe the work of the bounty participants takes a little longer to be enjoyed by investors


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: avonka on October 19, 2018, 11:33:25 PM
Bounty hunters dump their coins for sure (not all of them) but sometimes investors with huge bonuses from pre-sale also do the same. Depending on bounty allocation it can have only a short term effect on the price. If the project is high performing the investors can be even thankful to the hunters  for the chance to get some  additional cheap coins below the ICO price. Some ICOs on the other hand blame hunters for the price crash to excuse for the project failure.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Question123 on October 19, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
Not all bounty hunters are cause of dumping the price of the coins depends also to the investor everyone have responsibility to hold the coin that they have if they want to see that increasing.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: masterchief001 on October 19, 2018, 11:47:36 PM
I do not think that's the real cause. You mean when they get the free coins from the bonus campaign they are willing to sell the coins. That's not to say, everyone wants to sell at high prices to make money. Actually participating in bonuses campaign is also very hardworking takes a lot of time.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Mr Batman on October 20, 2018, 01:49:45 AM
I can't say yes and no, because there must be some people who will immediately sell the coins they get from the bounty and there are also people who hold the coins they get from the bounty, besides that the allocation of the bounty is not too large from the total sales so even though the price dropped because the bounty hunter sold it cheaply but it doesn't have a huge influence at market price.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: canaveralnonie on October 20, 2018, 04:55:37 AM
I can't say yes and no, because there must be some people who will immediately sell the coins they get from the bounty and there are also people who hold the coins they get from the bounty, besides that the allocation of the bounty is not too large from the total sales so even though the price dropped because the bounty hunter sold it cheaply but it doesn't have a huge influence at market price.
They dump it because the want a real money ( local tangible money ), they don't want to hold some useless altcoins specially if they see the future of the project. For me, as a bounty hunter... I have a lot of experience on that, so I see a lot of wasted project around the market. Even if I want to hodl it, there's a doubt on my head that this project never make any profitable income.

But it also a case to case basis, if I see the project is well prepared and has a lot of roadshow or seminar activity. It will be more interesting to have a share on their products. Just a few, but I can hold if that is deserving to.


Title: Re: Are bounty participant really the cause of dumping coins?
Post by: Stargazer on November 05, 2018, 06:27:08 PM
No, they are not. The presale investors and the bad market is the cause of dumping an ICO coin. Bounty hunters get only 1-2% of total sold tokens and therefore many hunters don't sell their coins immediately, they hodl for the future. So, Some bounty hunters can't dump millions of USD, It's because of the bad market or for the presale investors.