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Title: LTC pools
Post by: Ashkelon on October 18, 2011, 11:28:58 AM
Can we get a list going of current ltc pools and avg hashrate?

litecoinpool.dyndns.org 1.9 MH/s
ozco.in 0.51 MH/s
pool-x 0.31 MH/s
private 0.1 MH/S
other 1.56 MH/s

these numbers from http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html

Are those the only pools going? 1.56 MH/s smells rather like another pool than a bunch of solo miners.



Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: ElectricMucus on October 18, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
Can we get a list going of current ltc pools and avg hashrate?

litecoinpool.dyndns.org 1.9 MH/s
ozco.in 0.51 MH/s
pool-x 0.31 MH/s
private 0.1 MH/S
other 1.56 MH/s

these numbers from http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html

Are those the only pools going? 1.56 MH/s smells rather like another pool than a bunch of solo miners.


Actually no I really think those are solo miners. (and people with a cluster, network or something if there are any)

As long as you are getting at least a block a week I can't see the necessity of mining at a pool and a lot of people probably too.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: froggy on October 18, 2011, 01:15:04 PM
Can we get a list going of current ltc pools and avg hashrate?

litecoin.miningpool.com  0.284 MH/s .  I guess we're part of the "other" at the moment. Come join and help us hop over the 0.3Mh/s level. Maybe we can get a listing as part of the pie-graph then.   :)


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: g2x3k on October 18, 2011, 02:06:37 PM
hey iam running pool-x, you can see graphs over the pool´s @ http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html (thx molecular)

it is pools, pool-x doing around 300kh/s atm and paid out over 1000 ltc to users while i slept

private on that page is a private pool/solo operation

froggy: posted link to that pool in #litecoin lets hope gets on pie graph :)
edit: its added :)


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: froggy on October 18, 2011, 02:38:48 PM
Thanks hugely, g2x3k.  Good luck wiith your pool too. 

Mmmmmmm, pie (oops, just a quick Homer moment!). :)


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: Graet on October 18, 2011, 02:47:26 PM
yep nice graph
thanks to molecular and the other pools that donated to get the graph up :D


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wknight on October 18, 2011, 03:07:47 PM
I am really happy to see the Litecoin pools up.. though I would like to make a couple comments to the pool ops.

First... Stability... I have been on two pools just testing out network speed and been dropped off by the pool going down.

Second.. fix your stats. It takes a day to fix most pool stats right now. Be sure to have backups for quick fallback.. no reason a page should be messed up for hours.

Third... Get yourself a domain name or something more concrete. You want to run your pool from your house.. fine. but some of us would like something connected 99.9% of the time.

I know these stats are not totally correct on the pie. Specially litecoinpool .. the numbers are all over the board.




Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 03:29:13 PM
I am really happy to see the Litecoin pools up.. though I would like to make a couple comments to the pool ops.

First... Stability... I have been on two pools just testing out network speed and been dropped off by the pool going down.

Second.. fix your stats. It takes a day to fix most pool stats right now. Be sure to have backups for quick fallback.. no reason a page should be messed up for hours.

Third... Get yourself a domain name or something more concrete. You want to run your pool from your house.. fine. but some of us would like something connected 99.9% of the time.

I know these stats are not totally correct on the pie. Specially litecoinpool .. the numbers are all over the board.




I assume #3 is a cheap shot at my pool at http://184.107.145.244  It has a dyndns address if you prefer something you can remember. Otherwise hit CTRL+B in your browser.

But, who is running out of their house? I doubt any of the LTC pools are. Check out the IP in whois. This is running on a dedicated server with a 1 gig pipe. Not some home connection. Look at the server load. Low. And a load average off of top: load average: 0.05, 0.09, 0.08

My pool isn't dropping any users. If any of the other pools need help with some ideas to get this more reliable, feel free to PM me.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wknight on October 18, 2011, 03:42:49 PM
I am really happy to see the Litecoin pools up.. though I would like to make a couple comments to the pool ops.

First... Stability... I have been on two pools just testing out network speed and been dropped off by the pool going down.

Second.. fix your stats. It takes a day to fix most pool stats right now. Be sure to have backups for quick fallback.. no reason a page should be messed up for hours.

Third... Get yourself a domain name or something more concrete. You want to run your pool from your house.. fine. but some of us would like something connected 99.9% of the time.

I know these stats are not totally correct on the pie. Specially litecoinpool .. the numbers are all over the board.




I assume #3 is a cheap shot at my pool at http://184.107.145.244  It has a dyndns address if you prefer something you can remember. Otherwise hit CTRL+B in your browser.

But, who is running out of their house? I doubt any of the LTC pools are. Check out the IP in whois. This is running on a dedicated server with a 1 gig pipe. Not some home connection. Look at the server load. Low. And a load average off of top: load average: 0.05, 0.09, 0.08

My pool isn't dropping any users. If any of the other pools need help with some ideas to get this more reliable, feel free to PM me.

my fricken comcast cable modem is more then a 1 gig pipe :P

Honestly my shot to you was your numbers.. as i posted.. they are all over the board.. .. fix em  :P


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 03:49:27 PM
I am really happy to see the Litecoin pools up.. though I would like to make a couple comments to the pool ops.

First... Stability... I have been on two pools just testing out network speed and been dropped off by the pool going down.

Second.. fix your stats. It takes a day to fix most pool stats right now. Be sure to have backups for quick fallback.. no reason a page should be messed up for hours.

Third... Get yourself a domain name or something more concrete. You want to run your pool from your house.. fine. but some of us would like something connected 99.9% of the time.

I know these stats are not totally correct on the pie. Specially litecoinpool .. the numbers are all over the board.




I assume #3 is a cheap shot at my pool at http://184.107.145.244  It has a dyndns address if you prefer something you can remember. Otherwise hit CTRL+B in your browser.

But, who is running out of their house? I doubt any of the LTC pools are. Check out the IP in whois. This is running on a dedicated server with a 1 gig pipe. Not some home connection. Look at the server load. Low. And a load average off of top: load average: 0.05, 0.09, 0.08

My pool isn't dropping any users. If any of the other pools need help with some ideas to get this more reliable, feel free to PM me.

my fricken comcast cable modem is more then a 1 gig pipe :P

Honestly my shot to you was your numbers.. as i posted.. they are all over the board.. .. fix em  :P

I want to see your speedtest.net screen shot showing you have a 1 gig connection from comcast. That is completely unbelievable.

Numbers are fixed son. Go check them out. The problem was when the round reset I wasn't pulling the last time from the DB for the calculation. I was just using a standard 5 minute time stamp. Updated and nice and pretty now.

So, 2 and 3 were at me. Two is fixed, and three is your personal preference. It's not hosted at home, and as I mentioned before, I doubt anyone elses is. Ozcoin has or is working on getting a second dedicated server. This is industrial level equipment.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wknight on October 18, 2011, 03:52:16 PM
Honestly I wish I had a 1 gig to the internet.. I would be a happy little monkey :)

You addressed the other issues.. just like other pools are addressing theirs..

this doesn't just go for the current pools.. but future pulls just the same.. this is the point i am trying to make.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: g2x3k on October 18, 2011, 05:13:59 PM
its not quite fixed wannnaB .... :) take a look at http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html

unknown (time of writeing) is -0,04 and your pool over half the network ... right

iam running pool-x ... it cant be that hard to get bit math right if you wanna be hacker


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 05:32:18 PM
its not quite fixed wannnaB .... :) take a look at http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html

unknown (time of writeing) is -0,04 and your pool over half the network ... right

iam running pool-x ... it cant be that hard to get bit math right if you wanna be hacker

At the time of writing, we have 1.1 Mhash.

At the time of writing, that chart says we have 1.35 Mhash. That chart isn't correct.

At the time of writing, uknown has .15.

My pool solved 20 blocks during a one hour period. Is that more or less than 1 / 2 of the network? Help me with the math since you are so much better at it.

Do some pretty numbers on the site mean you solve more or less blocks? Blocks solved speak for themselves. All the other pretty ribbons and fancy bells mean nothing.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 05:35:49 PM
And FYI, we publish every TXID on the LTC that we solve. You're more than welcome to do the same. Then the charts could do a 24/7 effective hashrate. Would be much more accurate if you would be involved in that.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: g2x3k on October 18, 2011, 05:38:01 PM
true might be problem with that chart anyway its pulling from your api/site ... i havent checked up on if they report what chart says but meh :)

and that your pool solved 20 blocks in one hour thats pretty easy to calc was there only 40 blocks in that hour ?... wich hour ? :)

and unknown is solo miners + unknown pools seems unlikely to only be ,15

and it seems chart is catching up its .21 now or your pool started making more sense .... yours is only pool with variance to cause it

so why is it i shuld do the math ? :) you could put just a tiny piece of math here to proove you where right :) instead of just trowing out been 20 blocks in random hr

bout the txid there no problem in doing so :) would be a good idea alrdy link to it from stats pages and working on extended api


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 05:44:03 PM
true might be problem with that chart anyway its pulling from your api/site ... i havent checked up on if they report what chart says but meh :)

and that your pool solved 20 blocks in one hour thats pretty easy to calc was there only 40 blocks in that hour ?... wich hour ? :)

and unknown is solo miners + unknown pools seems unlikely to only be ,15

and it seems chart is catching up its .21 now or your pool started making more sense .... yours is only pool with variance to cause it

so why is it i shuld do the math ? :) you could put just a tiny piece of math here to proove you where right :) instead of just trowing out been 20 blocks in random hr


35 network blocks, my pool found 20 of them:

Code:
13648 	186 	10/18 3:59 pm 	0 Min 	34 	Login to see your reward
13647 187 10/18 3:59 pm 6 Min 904 Login to see your reward
13645 189 10/18 3:53 pm 0 Min 42 Login to see your reward
13644 190 10/18 3:53 pm 1 Min 191 Login to see your reward
13643 191 10/18 3:52 pm 0 Min 158 Login to see your reward
13643 192 10/18 3:52 pm 2 Min 302 Login to see your reward
13640 194 10/18 3:50 pm 4 Min 610 Login to see your reward
13637 197 10/18 3:46 pm 1 Min 29 Login to see your reward
13636 198 10/18 3:45 pm 2 Min 298 Login to see your reward
13634 200 10/18 3:43 pm 1 Min 165 Login to see your reward
13632 202 10/18 3:42 pm 3 Min 465 Login to see your reward
13630 204 10/18 3:40 pm 1 Min 149 Login to see your reward
13629 205 10/18 3:39 pm 1 Min 150 Login to see your reward
13628 207 10/18 3:38 pm 3 Min 439 Login to see your reward
13626 208 10/18 3:35 pm 0 Min 35 Login to see your reward
13625 209 10/18 3:35 pm 1 Min 163 Login to see your reward
13622 212 10/18 3:34 pm 6 Min 962 Login to see your reward
13621 213 10/18 3:27 pm 6 Min 1044 Login to see your reward
13617 217 10/18 3:21 pm 2 Min 318 Login to see your reward
13613 221 10/18 3:19 pm 22 Min 3202 Login to see your reward

How does your pool calculate hash rates? Mine is based on the number of shares submitted. That fluctuates. If half the network has a lucky period, that chart will fluctuate. Yes.

Please friend, don't have penis envy. Just make your pool better and make people use yours. It really won't hurt my feelings. I put up the pool because no one else had immediate plans to. Now I do it because it is fun. Mining solo I hit getinfo non stop to find a block. Now that I run a pull I execute Select * from PoolBlocks Order By BlockNumberId. I probably do as many sql queries on the database as the miners do!!


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
Unknown now has .57 and the pools rates have hardly changed. I think it's the way the charts is calculating total network power. Add them all up and it is almost 1 mhash lower than allchains.info


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wknight on October 18, 2011, 05:54:08 PM
Thats a lot of blocks!  ;)


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 18, 2011, 05:55:04 PM
Now it has .91 and the pool rates still haven't changed. I said before, I fixed my hash rate. It's fixed. So settle down unless you're mining on mine. That would be real embarrassing since you run your own.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: g2x3k on October 18, 2011, 05:57:18 PM
as of llitecoind version 40104 theres a command to get the network hashpersec ... i doubt allchains is using but i know the charts are .. that might be the cause of the problem :) ill mention on #litecoin see what happens ...

and yuh looking the blocks seems youre right so might be issue with how the client calculates the totalhashrate

rest of post(s) ill pretend didnt read, my pool doing fine .... i donated to that graph is all along with quite a few others and wanna improve upon litecoin network oh well


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: EskimoBob on October 19, 2011, 06:31:18 AM

Please friend, don't have penis envy. Just make your pool better and make people use yours....

Is that what your 5% fee is for? Penis enlargement? This is just a rhetorical question, please keep your smart-ass answers to yourself.
 


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: coblee on October 19, 2011, 06:47:14 AM
as of llitecoind version 40104 theres a command to get the network hashpersec ... i doubt allchains is using but i know the charts are .. that might be the cause of the problem :) ill mention on #litecoin see what happens ...

and yuh looking the blocks seems youre right so might be issue with how the client calculates the totalhashrate

rest of post(s) ill pretend didnt read, my pool doing fine .... i donated to that graph is all along with quite a few others and wanna improve upon litecoin network oh well

As of version 0.5.0.1, I've fixed the problem where getnetworkhashps is way off during difficulty changes.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wknight on October 19, 2011, 06:22:58 PM
5% fee.. i just dont get it.. so many other pools at 0%


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wannaBhacker on October 19, 2011, 07:03:57 PM

Please friend, don't have penis envy. Just make your pool better and make people use yours....

Is that what your 5% fee is for? Penis enlargement? This is just a rhetorical question, please keep your smart-ass answers to yourself.

5% fee.. i just dont get it.. so many other pools at 0%

There were only two things our pool fee was used for. 1 was to convince people to go to the other inferior pools. The second, was to pay for some of the dedicated server costs. If you think pool fee covers this your head doesn't work straight.

Now there is a third reason. Eskimo, wknight, or g2x I will donate towards your penis surgery so you feel much better about yourself. YYour other little man syndrome feel goods aren't working good enough. Eskimo, I'm sorry if you only have 1khash to send at a pool. I will buy you an AMD CPU if penis surgery is too scary for you.


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: wknight on October 19, 2011, 09:45:48 PM
Wow I never attacked you personally.. not sure why you personally attacked me


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: panerai on October 19, 2011, 10:55:13 PM
Can we get a list going of current ltc pools and avg hashrate?

litecoin.miningpool.com  0.284 MH/s .  I guess we're part of the "other" at the moment. Come join and help us hop over the 0.3Mh/s level. Maybe we can get a listing as part of the pie-graph then.   :)

I've got your back froggy, I'm on your pool exclusively :)


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: panerai on October 19, 2011, 10:59:51 PM
just out of curiosity (im noobish), is there any benefit to mining multiple pools?


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: saethan on October 19, 2011, 11:30:04 PM
A domain + dns + privacy service for a full year through nearlyfree is... $12.50.

Why -wouldn't- you get one?   :D


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: EskimoBob on October 20, 2011, 07:15:42 AM
Few days ago I added a "Comparison of Litecoin mining pools" to http://litecoin.info/index.php?title=Category:Mining
You can update this table or you can add change request here and I or someone else will take care of it.

Cheers!


Title: Re: LTC pools
Post by: froggy on October 20, 2011, 06:44:54 PM
Great work, EskimoBob.  I've corrected the entry for litecoin.miningpool.com (http://litecoin.miningpool.com) a little - transaction fees in blocks are shared with miners rather than kept by the pool.  I should have mentioned that in the pool's support thread.

I've got your back froggy, I'm on your pool exclusively :)

Thanks panerai.

 * toodles off to update the support thread *

Edited: Oh, it is mentioned there.  Ah well, that's OK then.