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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: shamc on August 16, 2018, 08:03:38 PM



Title: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: shamc on August 16, 2018, 08:03:38 PM
TP Coin bounty is an exact replica of yobet, none have a ANN page or a team page:

1. Yobet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4687401 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4687401) 16 July 2018

2. TP Coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4903904.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4903904.0) 16 Aug 2018

Must be run by the same person, anyone think it is a scam?


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: jacee on August 16, 2018, 09:23:02 PM
TP Coin bounty is an exact replica of yobet, none have a ANN page or a team page:
Both actually have an ANN
here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4738020.0
and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4897987.0

I have to say that they do both look like a scam. Both have a similar thread title design.
Yobet was claiming that they were partnered with bitsler (a well know gambling site) which I highly doubt.


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: shitcoinoffering on August 17, 2018, 08:50:07 AM
Yobet from "Yobit". Must be scam


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: morvillz7z on August 17, 2018, 02:23:42 PM
Here is what i found about Yobet:

They have the exact same "vision" as project called Virtual Reality Games

Obviously, have the exact same problems to solve.

Note that Yobet has close to 40 links shared in 'Reference' (that is like 80% of their WP)

http://oi66.tinypic.com/so9u84.jpg (http://oi66.tinypic.com/so9u84.jpg)

http://oi65.tinypic.com/1htaqh.jpg (http://oi65.tinypic.com/1htaqh.jpg)

https://yobet.io/static/pdf/YOBET%20ONE%20PAGE.pdf

https://ico.virtualreality-live.com/uploads/vr_games_ico_white_paper.pdf

https://ico.virtualreality-live.com/en




http://oi66.tinypic.com/dmfegy.jpg (http://oi66.tinypic.com/dmfegy.jpg)

http://oi67.tinypic.com/opwwo6.jpg (http://oi67.tinypic.com/opwwo6.jpg)




Top100exchange seems to be complete copy of Bitexchannel (they both can be scam, further research needed)

www.bitexchannel.com

http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ppklqr.jpg (http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ppklqr.jpg)

http://oi68.tinypic.com/2gt0kcw.jpg (http://oi68.tinypic.com/2gt0kcw.jpg)




http://oi68.tinypic.com/au9mqh.jpg (http://oi68.tinypic.com/au9mqh.jpg)

http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ujmpt4.jpg (http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ujmpt4.jpg)





I don't see a fifth floor on 3 Gower St.


http://oi66.tinypic.com/2z81e6w.jpg (http://oi66.tinypic.com/2z81e6w.jpg)

http://oi63.tinypic.com/e16a03.jpg (http://oi63.tinypic.com/e16a03.jpg)




OP might wanna archive all websites and bounty threads just in case.






Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: crypto_Butterfly on August 18, 2018, 10:51:26 AM
They looks scam to me, I will just stay away from them.


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: shamc on August 19, 2018, 07:18:51 PM
That is a great bit of investigation work @morvillz7z, i would also say that they are scams. I was thinking of putting a warning post on those bounty threads so they won't waste their time but didn't want to make any false accusations. Pretty sure they are scams though


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: coinlocket$ on August 19, 2018, 07:54:48 PM
I don't know it anyone is scam here, need deeper investigation but keep in mind one thing, humans are lazy so is pretty normal to see a copy-paste thread on the forum for bounty, it's faster! I found some of those in the past.


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: jacee on August 19, 2018, 08:57:05 PM
Yobet claimed that they are partnered with bitsler but whenn I asked on their ANN thread, here's what I got as a response

This information made me search for the relationship of Bitsler and Yobet and so far all I can see are just articles from medium but no official announcement from Bitsler unless I missed it. Here is the link to the article that states Yobet has partnered with Bitsler in terms of development https://medium.com/yobet-io/why-did-we-decide-to-release-yobet-during-the-markets-bearish-trend-4d6b0bc20cca still use the site with extreme caution.

I would not trust any platform that claim they are associated with some established site
at least untill the site in question announces it and endorses the platform
well ,at least yobet is not associated with yobit and it is not your next ICO with some "revolutionary" idea behind it
yobet seems to be just a casino platform and could be associated with Bitsler after all,but lets hear from the official representatives on the matter


Bitsler is in no way related, affiliated or partnered with Yobet or any ICO/Bounty projects for that matter.

thank you for making it clear, thought exactly the same since it is not an equal partnership
and I could not think of anything Yobet could offer Bitsler ,maybe only some questionable marketing promotion

Further investigations should be made here and maybe we can prove that these two is most likely a scam.


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: marlboroza on August 21, 2018, 08:34:27 AM
Further investigations should be made here and maybe we can prove that these two is most likely a scam.
I don't see relationship between yobet and top100exchange, except from the same content on bounty page, as top100exchange created bounty topic a month after yobet's bounty, there is possibility they simple c/p it.

In addition to morvilz7z's finding, best exchange platform is new platform:

Domain: bitexchannel.com
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registration Date: 2017-12-21
Expiration Date: 2018-12-21
Updated Date: 2017-12-21


top100exchange domain was registered only 1 month after:

Domain: top100exchange.co.uk
Registrar: Key-Systems GmbH [Tag = KEY-SYSTEMS-DE]
Registration Date: 2018-01-17
Expiration Date: 2019-01-17
Updated Date: 2018-02-13



And as for yobet:

I am the Bitsler's main admin and we do NOT have any partnership with yobet.io.

This is fake :

Not to mention, we have ongoing partnership with the leading organizations in the online casino sector, including Betway Casino, William Hill, Bitsler, Gambling Site, etc. These invaluable partners will enable us to gain more insights and practical knowledge in order to triumph in this arduous Cryptocurrency market.



Source : https://medium.com/yobet-io/why-did-we-decide-to-release-yobet-during-the-markets-bearish-trend-4d6b0bc20cca


If I were you I would trust these guys.
I don't think there is anything to investigate, team who lied about their partnership shouldn't be trusted, and there is also that plagiarism part in their white paper...


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: shamc on August 27, 2018, 08:29:52 AM
it's like the first two https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4894335

And what i noticed is that they are all copper members so a completely new project. Often a bounty campaign manager would use the same style, but these guys are project managers not bounty managers. They must be done by the same scammer, just changing a few details in the project and collecting ICO funds


Title: Re: Two identical bounty projects, is one or both a scam?
Post by: Cryptomonyet on August 27, 2018, 12:47:20 PM
it's like the first two https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4894335

And what i noticed is that they are all copper members so a completely new project. Often a bounty campaign manager would use the same style, but these guys are project managers not bounty managers. They must be done by the same scammer, just changing a few details in the project and collecting ICO funds

FYI, they don't do any of ICO that's mean only bounty