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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/)

A small excerpt from the Reddit post warning people how Dean Nolan could not justify having the Betking website ICO. Why did people invest back then?

If it was lack of "due-diligence" that Dean Nolan boasted of recently as he blamed the investors for them ending up with an investment that gave them little or no return while the same time making Dean Nolan an overnight millionaire then that sadly is that but even now with the way the structure of the useless and worthless Betking tokens are set up Dean Nolan is allowing gullible people to buy the tokens directly from the shady Betking website.

"You need to lay out exactly what this 2000 bitcoin is going towards.

I think an important question is, why would any contacts or software developer you know want to help build you a casino platform that's worth a damn if you they aren't going to have any equity in the business? Why wouldn't they just build it on their own?

Imagine you walked into Shark Tank and you told Mark Cuban 'I want 1.5 million dollars (2000 btc) for you to invest in 30% of my company. I've shown success in this other market, but this new market I've never been in and I don't know yet exactly what we're going to do, but I know a lot of people in the industry, trust me'. You'd be laughed off the show.

It is also important to note that 1 bitcoin earned 2 years ago is not equal to 1 bitcoin earned today. Back then, the price was about $250, and now its at $750. Even 6 months ago, the price of bitcoin was about 60% of what it is now. A huge chunk of the profit came from those time periods. Bitcoin is at, basically, an all time high. I get the thought process from your perspective, although I think it is misguided. You've tried to sell Betking at least 2 other points in the past year that I can remember, but the problem is almost all of Betking's value stems from the bitcoin community's trust in Dean. The brand and software has very little value in my opinion - that's why no one ever offers anything close to what Dean feels Betking is worth (apparently 7000 btc)."

All people thinking of buying Betking tokens, please do not do it! I feel sorry for the ICO investors and those that bought Betking tokens from the Betking website after the ICO.

It makes great reading those comments from people that have been scammed by Dean Nolan. We all know Dean Nolan closed the Betking thread here because people began asking him about the 2017 ICO and how investors bought in pathetic useless Betking tokens.

Any comments regarding the Reddit post?

Yea... it was mine lol. Dean got eviscerated in that thread.

It appears it has a vry bad reputation...

I really liked the analogy when you wrote in that Reddit post:
"Imagine you walked into Shark Tank and you told Mark Cuban 'I want 1.5 million dollars (2000 btc) for you to invest in 30% of my company. I've shown success in this other market, but this new market I've never been in and I don't know yet exactly what we're going to do, but I know a lot of people in the industry, trust me'. You'd be laughed off the show."

Why on earth did people fall for it and invest in this disastrous 2017 ICO that many people say was designed to make Dean Nolan a millionaire by him siphoning off large chunks of the ICO funds as there was no accountability to show exactly where the funds were spent. For example some people say the 30 million Betking tokens that were supposed to be used for promotion and development (as mentioned in the whitepaper) were not correctly used for that purpose.

If the website was already created and already "ready" and was virtually the same website which Dean Nolan closed in 2016 only to re-launch in 2017 then he has been accused of siphoning off those funds for himself.

My opinions are not important but people are calling Betking and Dean Nolan scam and scammer because there are no published accounts to show what Betking has been doing and because Dean Nolan has locked the Betking thread to stifle those who are asking him to explain where the ICO funds went, where the 50% ICO funds supposed to be used for bankroll are and those askign him to return the ICO money to investors and token holders because his calculation to obtain the Betking token price is basically pathetic.

Shame on Dean Nolan for accusing investors of not using "due-diligence" and blamed them for investing (because they did not read the small print). Disgraceful behaviour by Dean Nolan.

Both of them (Dean Nolan and Betking) do have a very bad reputation. Dean Nolan just sent me this PM a short while ago:

"lol you are that sad that you made a script to post the second my thread was unlocked Smiley
get a life.

You wonder why no investors are posting in your thread? Because everything you have said has been asbolute shit and lies.
You have not even bothered to listen when I answered questions and instead just post until my reply is burried.

I also know about your very poor seo effort.

I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"

Seriously, is this the pathetic little worm that fooled investors in to parting with their money in the scam ICO?

People who trusted these bad reputations guy deserve anything tbh

Well the truth is people can be trusting or gullible and newbies are easily fooled so they might not know or understand the truth about scams so I cannot agree with your statement.

Instead of blaming investors and users for getting scammed and getting ripped off, I prefer to blame the scammers instead.

The scammer is back in the forum after he threw his toys out of his pram and spat out his dummy. He threw a tantrum and said he would leave for good but the scammer is back.

Everybody beware of the scammer Dean Nolan and his betking and bitsafe scams.

A very interesting read.

The scammer Dean Nolan has decided to cancel paying out over 20 BTC to winners of last weeks Christmas wager promotion because too many people won and he would have to give away too many BTC. He decided he did not want to do that so he cancelled all bets.

The serial scammer pathetic fool Dean Nolan has outdone himself with this one... again

 :o

Without the required dumbasses, scam artist Dean Nolan would be a ZERO!

I call them "victims" because they were scammed.

It is true scammer Dean Nolan would be "zero" if he was unable to scam people but the people who got scammed were not to blame, they were unfortunate enough to fall for the betking scam.

These claims made by scammer Dean Nolan in the screenshot below are hilarious.

Scammer Dean Nolan claims to be working 14 hours a day when cannot code a line.

The scammer Dean Nolan thinks betking will attract "200,000 new potential players" thanks to the EOS token airdrop  ::)

Now he goes around telling people on the betking scam chat he is applying for a gambling licence from the UK authorities  ;D ;D

He wrote "we are working on it" but there is no "we". Scammer Dean Nolan is a one-man-band that tries all he can to dupe people and he hires freelancers to modify the website.

As for the UK gambling licence he is "working on", that is an out-and-out lie. The UK authorities will never give a gaming licence to scam projects registered off-shore in Costa Rica and those that cshow 2013-2019 copyright in the footer when the "betking" domain was registered in 2015  (created on 14th October 2015)  ::)



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I've wanted to buy their tokens not so long ago, good that I havent done this

You could have lose your money at that time if you did buy. That is the reason why participants should do their own research to the project or campaign they participated to make sure if it is legit or a scam project especially the people behind the project or campaign. With this event, people did jump into conclusions.

I remember seeing their ico open and selling tokens for their website.
Was thinking about buying some but glad I didnt after all.
Never heard of Dean nolan before and didnt know he was a scammer either. Very bad for the crypto gambling community to know a notorious known scammer can just open a casino and start his exploits.

I don't know if this is a scam and the story behind this ICO but he is right when he wrote in the message that there are almost no comments from investors in your thread.

I see you try to let people know about this and post to make this thread visible but still there are no comments from scammed investors.

Where are they? Why are they not complaining here?

Am I the only one who noticed his "I take it you are paid by stake/pd or something?"? What is that guy issue with Primedice and Stake? I didnt get it

Betking has been called out as a scam by tons of people in various threads even though not many have posted in this thread which is why I appreciate these efforts by op to save innocent people from investing into this website.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.0

https://game-protect.com/betking-scam/

There are many legit websites out there which is why I advise staying far away from this particular website. Do your research people.

It is know from history and based past facts the Betking did in fact stolen some BTC from their users. While some had their withdrawls pending and there were issues inside their site which would make funds kinda "lost" themselves.

Thanks for this clarification but still no proves from scammed victims.

In threads like this, I see a lot of comments from victims and that is why I raised my question.

I can't comment on the specifics of this conflict but I liked these thoughts from reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/)

"Unqualified investors(anyone that isn't a professional VC or angel investor) should probably avoid all ICO's altogether.

There may be a few ICO's that will generate money, for investors but most won't, they will be gambling vessels propped up to unrealistic values, until people start learning most of the ICO's are actually worthless.

Sure maybe a lot of people who start ICO's have genuine good ideas, but over times their intentions might get corrupted because they realize that this huge pot of money is actually theirs and the investor has no real legal rights. So many owners of ICO's will pay themselves generous wages while doing very little, or simply run of with the money, depending if they want to keep up appearances or not."  :)

This are quite some very strong claims by the OP on the sites in question but I would love more light to be thrown in so as for myself and individuals to be more clarified on this matter

I guess at this point they are one of the most known scammers of crypto world as well. I can remember couple of names, not that many of them lived to see another day to be honest in crypto after their scam. First one I can think of is that fat scammer from mt.gox who said their coins were "stolen" and suddenly "found" 200k bitcoins all of a sudden.

The other one is cryptsy who stole thousands of bitcoin and other coins as well while they go. The next one is this hash company I can't remember, not nicehash but it was zenhash or something if I am not wrong or something similar, they have been sued as well. The latest is bitgrail that stole a lot of money thanks to being first Nano listing exchange and keeping everyone's money in there. All in all dean nolan will be continued to be put into the same topic as those guys.

Showing that people's nature of greed for money. Not contented with what they have, even if they have plenty. They want more. So the likes of Dean Nolan is really not surprising at all. Be very careful with your investments, nobody is responsible with your money but your own self.

No it was picked up by several others.

One of the issues to look at was that betking was thriving back in 2016 but greedy scammer Dean Nolan closed it down in December 2016 to have the ICO. He took some time out to have a break and the ICO but by then betking had lost ground it would never make up again. All its competitors had started to get lots of players betting and they actually innovated with new games but betking relaunched after the scam ICO with the identical website it had pre-ICO. That obviously made that scammer Dean Nolan very jealous of all his competitors.

He should have stayed where betking was. And improved their gambling site. But because of greed, they failed. Or maybe they really did not fail from their end because they got money. They just cheated a lot of people. ::)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/

The above link is an excellent read about why scammer Dean Nolan and his betking website are a disgrace.

You keep calling him a scammer yet you won't bet me when I offer 3 to 1 odds he wont scam for the next year, this is conviction less talk where you put up no money to back it up.

This Link does show that it was likely a bad investment and raised far to much ico funds, but this in no way makes him a scammer. In fact the entire crypto space made the same mistake of over valuing something. Do I see you calling bitcoin a fraud because it's price tanked? The only fraud in here is you because you speak lies as truth's but wont back your opinion up with a bet. Money talks you wont put any up time to shut up.

Agreed. That is the moral of the story, always. You are responsible for your money.

When scammers such as Dean Nolan come along and use lies about being "the biggest bankrolled and most profitable gambling site" it is easy enough to fool gullible investors and newbies.

Everybody knows Just-Dice wiped the floor with betking when it came to both profits and investment.

The scammer Dean Nolan is deleting posts in his censored thread.

He is looking for bounty participants to promote his scam betking website  ;D
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If you don't want to read, just admit it. Otherwise, spam your signature elsewhere. It's not difficult to take a few minutes of your time to read the thread that you're reply to, especially when you post like you care... which you don't.

Thank you for your post.

We all have a moral duty to the community to help expose all scammers no matter their scale of scam. A scam is a scam regardless.

If someone killed someone last year, what is the sense of taking a bet that he will not kill someone this year?

Convincing dumbasses that he never killed anyone?

A killer remains a killer, whether he will kill someone this year or not!

I know scammer Dean Nolan and his pocket rocket casino and betking websites stole plenty of money from its affiliates. That has been proven on Reddit and in this forum by members that were scammed.

As for the Christmas 2018 wager, this scamming low-life Dean Nolan used his betking website to lure people in then refused to payout over 20 BTC in winnings to those that won fairly.

Pathetic scammer Dean Nolan and his pathetic betking website  ::)

You don't k now anything your just a angry little man, you wont put money where mouth is you know the shit you spout is bullshit, no conviction. You and your cronny gameprotect try to tarnish peoples reputation in the hopes to extort them, if they refuse you evil little men attack like hyenas. Just wait until a lion strikes you down.

Yes I understand your idea.

Regardless of when and how the scam took place, Dean Nolan is a scammer and his betking website was used as a vehicle to maintain the scam.

Please note all investors and those betting on betking, be prepared to be scammed just like the winners of the 20 BTC +EV Christmas 2018 Wager which that pathetic scammer fool Dean Nolan refused to pay up because he calculated the odds wrong but blamed a non-existent hack took place  ::)

Oh, it's my biggest fan  :)

I see you managed to get a little crew going in here who are not players, investors or token holders to believe you and make judgement and spread lies.
Though I guess if you are sad enough to post every day for a year that's to be expected.

I'll give you a little challenge.

Provide proof of any scam I or BetKing has been involved with.
When I say proof, you have to provide actual evidence remember, not just post opinion and lies. Also putting text in large font and pretty colours doesn't make it true.
It would help your case if you could find a single token holder who has been scammed or an investor who has been scammed.
And no, people who are just unhappy with business decisions or that they didn't make huge profit from ICO do not count either. That does not equal a scam.

betking is a scam website run by a scammer called Dean Nolan

Please do your own research before you think about investing in their scam tokens or playing on their website

betking and Dean Nolan are commonly known in the forum as scam and scammer

Liar fraudster UnhappyEvil, silly little evil man why you always lying. Based off your above  how can you keep declining my offer. You wont put money where mouth is if you believed it you would jump at opportunity to collect free money. You always lying liar unhappyevil you been exposed.

Those of you not seeking the worthless and useless EOS bounty tokens from betking and scammer Dean Nolan are requested to post your views here about the OP

::)

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Very interesting conversation was cut short by scammer Dean Nolan when he lock the censored thread  ::)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023833.msg50157328#msg50157328

Scammer Dean Nolan claimed he would leave the forum but today he deleted the above post from his censored thread.

He deleted it at the same time a newbie joined the forum specifically to ask a question instead of asking it on the chat service on the betking website.

Furthermore another user with screenshots was ready to answer the question ::)



Pathetic fools

I'm a bit in the dark about this betking. Is it the same betking on football betting? Because I also know betking with soccer betting. So reading through this thread, I have been wanting to know.

Amazing that the scammer Dean Nolan did not learn his lesson.

After throwing another tantrum and claiming he will leave the forum he is using multi-users to try to push his scam betking website to newbies and gullible people

 ::)

Can you show proof? How exactly is it that you know this. Do you have mystical powers?

It doesn't need to show some proofs because if you do try to look the history or the things been doing by Betking since from their ICO and its recent development.You would really have that
question on mind on where those BKB go and now with their recent tie up with EOS which you can really presume things negatively.Try to check it out.

I have that fool on IGNORE because he is behaving like he knows nothing but is after EOS tokens bounty from his friend scammer Dean Nolan

All the evidence is here in the threads dedicated to betking scam and Dean Nolan scammer

ohh ok he doesn't need to show proof that makes a hell of a lot of sense.

That's what I'm trying to say but it seems he do still support Betking after all.  ;D

i investigated myself, go look through jollygood post history, he not coming from a place of trying to help. He says same stuff over and over, seem obvious his goal is to hurt someone rather than help people.

Scammer Dean Nolan and friends/multi-aliases are following me around trying to attack me but I have them on IGNORE

They can ask scammer Dean Nolan for some freebie worthless and useless EOS bounty tokens

Anyone can perform task as long they can earn those tokens and hoping that they would make some decent profits later on.Just cant believe that they do need to post
positive feedbacks on Betking threads to be eligible.


We cant really make any conclusions yet but the community do really have that will on which thing they would believe on.

You the only person attacking anybody. Yeah your right I really need those bounty tokens. You are so clever know everyones motives. Now I know how you can post here all day about Dean Nolan you got psychic powers and have become so filtyh rich by knowing everything.

  ::)

making it big, red white and blue must make it true. Just like USA land of the free home of the brave.

all credability if he had any is lost right here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5049155.0

http://i63.tinypic.com/e9hrhi.png


 ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5049155.0

:)

Haha scammer Dean Nolan and his buddies/alt-accounts claim they see no scam and "fully support" scammer Dean Nolan and his fast dying betking website  ;D ;D

How do you know?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5049155.0


not looking good for you buddy

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcryRiVR.png&t=599&c=zkE3zlCbg7x40Q

Oh well than HitBTC promotion really did take a Hit  ::)

Paying to get it listed with no intention of actually putting time, effort and energy in to get this scam betking working post-ICO

betking is a disgrace. An apology and acceptance for the wrongs that scammer Dean Nolan has done in order to line his own pockets just might make some in the community feel sorry for him but he deserves no sympathy from me.

He scammed plenty of people directly or indirectly while completely controlling the narrative and changing TOS as and when he wanted to in order to protect his investments while ensuring others lost out.

Pathetic low-life

you seem to be the one trying to ensure others lose out, its rather comical that you can't see that. Anyway you been exposed Here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5049155.0

this kid wont put money where mouth no signs of conviction claims scammer all day everday but wont accept favorable odds in his favor. This shows he does not believe in what he says.

Fake News been exposed here...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5049155.0

Yep this guy so fos.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.msg25722198#msg25722198


user iluvbitcoins wrote:

"Bankroll was valued at 6.5 million.
Bankroll is valued at 18.5 million.
Bankroll profit is 12 million"

and

"What I remember is investing in a bankroll of a cryptocurrency casino.
It’s profit increased for 12 million $, and no where was it stated that the casino was going to sell crypto for FIAT and let people gamble in FIAT instead of crypto (which would assume you have nothing to do with crypto anymore), so please explain to me how the hell does your bankroll increase for 12 million $ (trifold) and you still get the same FIAT amount as when you invested when your assets are valued in FIAT and not in crypto."

There is so much more in the link, makes excellent reading how scammer Dean Nolan fooled ICO investors.

Scammer Dean Nolan hopefully going to jail very soon.

only person in jeporady of going to jail is you for defamation of character with no proof.

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I do find it funny I have to admit

 ;D

  You're a troll, mods should bad you. How long can your madness continue before someone steps up and does the right thing

i agree strange this type of thing can go on i been reading some of it this guy never gives up crazy drive but crazy mind.

Another multi-account added to my IGNORE list

o wow crazy and childish go figure just wow

https://medium.com/@BetKingIO/betking-weekly-update-buybacks-and-bkt-burn-9f4ac5f3cbd6

So scammer Dean Nolan makes no mention of the $6.5 million he made from the ICO funds and did not mention why he did not use the funds as he claimed he would

In the article scammer Dean Nolan failed to mention what was stated in the 2017 ICO whitepaper and failed to mention why he did not fulfill those promises

Pathetic fool

I think that is because his target group are dumbasses! :D

It is highly doubtful that he collected anywhere near $6.5 million! Please show proof for such claims?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.msg21483994#msg21483994

The message shows:

ICO now over

Total funds raised:
1,046.60623397 BTC
4,614.61055431 ETH
833.38469263 LTC
Total: $6,497,165.94

Sorry, but the message of a liar and scam artist is proof of nothing!

I am not the Emperor of China only because I claim it. ;)

How much do you think he made then?

That is what happens to greedy pathetic scammers such as Dean Nolan.

When he got too big for his boots at the success of betking, scammer Dean Nolan thought he could do anything he liked. The fact he closed the site for the ICO then re-opened post ICO with the exact website was the beginning of the end.

Thankfully Stake, Bustabit, Bustadice, Primedice, Bitsler and several others have gone too far ahead in every aspect (users, revenue, UI, gameplay, technological advances, innovation, etc) and betking has faded in to obscurity. That is what scammer Dean Nolan deserves for being the greedy pathetic loser he is. He is getting treated exactly the same way he was treating others because he thought he was better than them.

I am so happy betking has collapsed and is nearly dead. Just feel sorry for the investors that fell for the scam.

  There is no scam here, and we both know it since you wont bet your money when I gave you 3 to 1 odds. Money speaks volumes bro you wont back any. I highly doubt you feel sorry for investors since your going way out of way to tarnish his reputation and any investors chance of recovering principle. Mods please do something about this guy making scam claims with no proof, claims his opinion as facts this is a criminal offense that nobody seems to be taking seriously.

TBH Im going to have to agree with this reply here - You cannot blame the owner of a company that profits from an investment weren't what you expected...that is precisely why its called an INVESTMENT and not a GUARANTEE.

It's getting pretty old seeing the same people trying to tarnish the name of a hard working individual who has and is continuing to do the right thing by proceeding with the business as well as doing his best to reconcile with investors. There's a reason why Dean is still around, and its NOT because he's a scammer. You may not like his propositions, or the way he does business. You may not like BetKing, you may not like what the business stands for. Thats all fine and dandy, and it is your right to have such opinions. However, please DO NOT slander another individual or their business purely out of spite. Its quite obvious by now to us readers of such garbage as this that you're butthurt because you expected something and you didn't get it. Tough. Thats how investments sometimes pan out, and you should know this could be the case going into any investment. By the way you speak of things, you make it seem like you had a signed contract with the owner where YOU were promised millions of dollars and didn't receive it (which obviously is not the case).

The fact of the matter is, BetKing is still alive and well. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself: https://betking.io - Not only are they alive and well, but they are constantly making iterations to the site as well as coming up with new features to make the experience better for all players/investors who visit. There is a reason why the site is still progressing despite people like you doing their best to tarnish a legitimate business as well as its owner, and it's not because it's a scam. Bitconnect? Scam. Mtgox? Scam. Betking? Sorry, doesn't even come close to the same category as either one of the first two mentioned. Dean is still in business and is working hard to clear both his reputation and business due to people like yourself who had in their mind that anything cryptocurrency related meant "Guaranteed Millions in Profit, Overnight". How many scammers do you know who stay in the public eye after executing a scam? None. They disappear. Clearly Dean has not disappeared, and rightfully so as THERE IS NO SCAM.

Many of us on here are growing tired of hearing the same individuals who have nothing better to do with their lives try and defame someone elses livelihood. You should see how you look from my side, absolutely pitiful. How about instead of making a full time job out of trying to tarnish another persons name without actual proof, you use that time to actually make some of the money back that you supposedly lost in the investment? Or is it that you "inherited" the funds that you invested to begin with? Because thats about all I see from these type posts. If this is not the case, then please...move on. Do something productive. Go fly a kite for all I care. Anything is more fruitful than creating "SKAMM!!" posts like this, without warrant at that. And next time, you might want to think before investing. Just because an investment works for one individual doesn't mean it will work for you. If you have a VALID accusation with PROOF, then I'm all ears. Without that, you're just another idiot who blindly threw money at something because they heard "Gambling" and "Crypto" in the same sentence.

Also, it's quite clear to readers here that your intentions of being on this forum isn't to contribute in a positive way, but to become a negative nay-sayer. Just look at your signature for Christ's sake. You DEDICATED your signature to what you believe are scams. If I'm not mistaken, it almost seems like you're welcoming any situation to come your way where you can come out and say such things when things don't go the way you expected it to. You know what that sounds like to me? You've got way too much idle time on your hands there buddy.

Another fool added to my IGNORE list

anybody who disagrees with him is auto blocked. I emailed mods of this forum and several mods from other forum explaining this issue, my crys were ignored. He is bumping 5 threads per day ( Breaking rules) accusing someone of being a thief/scammer when he acts like it's a fact when its clearly a opinion ( breaking the law).

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betking users getting paid useless and worthless EOS BKT tokens in order to attack me in bitcointalk forum

 ::)

That is 100% not true, why are you always lying....

He is hoping scammer Dean Nolan will throw some freebie useless and worthless EOS BKT tokens his way that is why he is doing it  ;D

This is another lie. I have accepted 0 Tokens from Dean.You already gave me negative rep for claiming I'm a scammer, yet cryptogames sent me a extra 116 etherium ( I notified them before they realized their mistake) then I sent it all back and they were kind enough to tip me 12 etherium and I was ecstatic. What kind of scammer does such a thing? These false accusations of calling everyone a scammer need to come to a end. I have messaged several moderators via Pm over the last week none have replied and it seems none have given this user a warning.

Well in simple terms scammer Dean Nolan is jealous that Stake and Primedice are successful businesses that have left betking so far behind that you not see betking even if you looked through binoculars   ;D

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/


Well seems all those concerns about the impending scam were valid because betking reputation is completely destroyed

Correct! You can destroy a reputation only one time!

But these criminals live in a separate fantasy dream world and think they can do it limitless times! :D

Why can they do it so often?

Because they will always find some dumbasses too stupid to put "betking scam" into google! :D

Here is an update .... with great pleasure and great delight I feel happy to present the latest Trust ratings for the 4 user names in the OP associated with scammer Dean Nolan that represent the betking scam:


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 ;D


Accounts involved
BetKing.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024) (-254)
BetKing Support (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1055046) (-128)
PocketRocketsCasino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=97219) (-126)
dean nolan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=941114) (-64)


Check this Scam thread for further details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122856

1 thread please, you were asked to please keep it to 1 thread by Rhavar.
Amazing the criminal acts you are doing day in day out with lies and propaganda, why no mods of this forum care that you break rules everyday? I pm'd them they did not even give me a response. Makes me wonder if you have ties with them.....

It is interesting you use the word "criminal"

I do agree with you that the reason why scammers (including serial scammers and compulsive liars such as Dean Nolan) continue to scam is because they will always tend to find gullible investors that put money in to their scams. Another factor is when these scammers get side-kicks to start freebie promotions too.

Can you list which criminal acts I am "doing day in day out with lies and propaganda"

 ::)

This was posted today by serial scammer Dean Nolan in his censored self-moderated thread:





All I see is a scammer that is trying to make people think he is a reformed character by "working so hard" on the trash betking website. How is the above going to save a website that he scammed millions of US$ from?

It seems he needs to take this step because in the very near future when tries to scam investors out of millions of US$ for his next venture (probably bitsafe scam), it might repair some damage in the eyes of gullible investors.

scam is a scam.

Dean promised 10% quarterly buybacks that are still not offered.
50% goes to bankroll investors, but the bankroll should have been funded with the ICO funds.

Obviously Dean put the ICO funds in his own pocket and scamming the investors instead of developing a decent product.

You are right. A scam IS a scam.

Serial scammer did steal a minimum of 1/3 of the total ICO funds outright valued at $2.785 million, as for the rest we just do not know exactly how much he stole because there are no publicly available audits.

Considering serial scammer Dean Nolan called this forum a "cesspit" that full of scammers and trolls and said that the forum was dying and nobody visited it, he has a funny way to show how important it is to the future of betking and any continuation of the scam.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan is up to no good again
 ::)

From nearly bankrupting betking by stealing millions from its ICO funds to completely destroying the reputation of betking single-handedly, somehow the investors have allowed this serial scammer imbecile Dean Nolan to take ownership of over 78% of betking.

Somehow a part of me believes they should have started that legal action against him when it a hot-topic within a closed group very recently. Even now they should reconsider and start the legal action. I also will contribute all my findings and research to the cause because it will be the best way for the investors to try to recoup some of the millions that were siphoned-off by serial scammer imbecile Dean Nolan and will hopefully result in him getting jail time.

His latest masterstroke was to move over to EOS tokens with billions of BKT set aside for airdrops and promotions in the hope to bring in 200,000 new users. It did not work, betking is virtually dead.

There were a staggering 10,000,000,000 BKT tokens created on EOS. Now, there are just 414,268,058 BKT in circulation and a massive 8,085,731,942 BKT burned. The remaining 1,500,000,000 BKT belong to serial scammer Dean Nolan.

So just to recap, of the 1,914,268,058 BKT remaining which form ownership of betking, serial scammer Dean Nolan alone currently owns more than 78.5% of betking yet when the EOS tokens were launched he owned 10%.

Gee, what could possibly go wrong here?  ::)

He only has more than 3x the total circulating supply of this token... Unfortunately he won't be able to crush the token from almost nothing to nothing too easily, as there seems to be zero market demand for it.

I've been following this issue since you first commented about it, and then thanks to LoyceV's input on the matter as well in the Scam Accusations section. No doubt what he's been doing is illegal, but even when it comes to these types of issues that could border on the gray areas of the law, why would anyone trust a guy with such an awful reputation on anything going forward? He's got an awful track record and I would hope investors of any future project of his would take that into consideration before trusting him with their money.

Nice to see your post nutildah, thank you for posting here and for keeping an eye on what is going on with this subject.

Yes it is true, serial scammer Dean Nolan owns over 78.5% of the current incarnation of the betking website and this after he stole 30 million of the original 100 million BKB tokens created in the 2017 ICO and on top of those 30 million tokens he stole it is currently hard to work out exactly how many other tokens he stole when he siphoned them off.

A simple calculation using the guaranteed buy-back rate which he ditched as soon as he cashed in the 30 million BKB tokens he stole it amounted to $2.785 million and that amount is excluding the untold millions of BKB tokens he siphoned-off.

Somehow when he moved over to EOS tokens creating BKT tokens he ended up with 10% of the tokens for himself thus 10% ownership and the investors allowed that to happen. Now, by burning over 8 billion of the 10 billion EOS tokens it leaves this serial scammer pathetic imbecile Dean Nolan with an ownership of over 78.5% of all BKT tokens. Strange how he did not burn his own ownership on the same ratio as he was burning other tokens so his stake would never have increased and investors would have held more than the 414 million BKT tokens they share between them.

He obviously has fooled the original ICO investors by spinning them more lies and duped them in to hanging on yet in the end he is effectively the majority shareholder by a massive margin even though he scammed everybody and pocked multi-millions illegally after the 2017 ICO and that is theft which if investors step forward will be enough to start legal proceedings against this serial scammer Dean Nolan.

I am trying to get a few more pieces of information and evidence as well as information from ICO investors before presenting my case file to the UK (Scotland Sheriff) Police: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047787.0

It was never about actually building a feasible straight business, it was done during the peak ICO times and it was just to see if they could make a lot of money with it, they did made a ton of money and they have earned more than they could ever dreamed of and now its time to move on, not like they planned on paying anyone anything, they were planning on just getting the total amount all together at once, you can put that much money into savings account and still live a very large life, running a casino does make you a lot of profit but first you have to work for it and be careful not to get hacked and on top of that you only make a lot of money every day, this way you make years worth of it in one day. Hence, they didn't even set out to create a good business.

I think you captured the sentiments and the facts correctly.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan had no intention of running a straight business. He just wanted to line his own pockets and the ICO was the perfect excuse. He made millions of USD$ which were stolen from the company that owned betking in 2017 which was registered in Costa Rica (Betking SRL Number: 3-102-744110).

Nowadays the Costa Rica company no longer exists and it just © betking.io in the website footer and that of course means that serial scammer Dean Nolan can be sued in a Court of law in the United Kingdom with ease because he has no off-shore company to hide behind.

If investors and winners that were scammed would like to have this thief imbecile Dean Nolan investigated by the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) then please get in touch so I can add your information to my case file before presenting it to the legal authorities:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047787.0

So the serial scammers opens a self-moderated thread then locks it.

He explains betking is closed because of a hack and he somehow will make payments to investors but continues to refer to "we". He is one man band  ::)

He made no mention that he stole 50 BTC in October 2019 and blamed it on an imaginary hack which only happened after he transferred all the bankroll funds from the cold-wallet to the hot-wallet just before the hack took place yet he never had done that before going back to the days of the pocketrocketcasino days until the time of the hack.

He will go to jail - it is inevitable.

Somehow it is unlocked to allow a newbie to post before locking it again. The only way it works is if a sock-puppet is being controlled by the imbecile serial scammer Dean Nolan:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201753.msg53109825#msg53109825

I'm really wondering now what's the reason he opened that thread ? I mean the site is done and bitcointalk doesn't trust him anyways so what's the point ?

currently I really don't understand the situation at all cause I never expected him to show up here , does this thing have anything to do with legal stuffs or is there actually a chance that he is willing to pay these lost funds ?

totally agree with you about the newbie accounts tho it's totally shady and most likely fake as well , but what's the point of these positives vouches ???

May be he is feeding his ego by opening the thread or he is willing to compensate everyone who lost money for the experiment he was doing, these tokens are high risk experiment and you cannot control how the market should react and may be that is what happened to him.

There is no clarity on how he is going to compensate his investors nor where the funds comes and that too after getting his site hacked and what more to loose now  :-\.

Really shady with newbie accounts vouching and that is the reason i thought he was feeding his ego and if he is planning to compensate the investors, let him do that.

Thank you for the excellent question. Others have wondered the same thing. Using newbie accounts to post how happy there are that they lost their funds and appreciate all that "deano" is doing and thanking him shows exactly what a low-life he he is. As for the funds, well he stole the final 50+ BTC from investors worth over $400,000 so yes he could pay them back. I mean, which kind of imbecile loads $400,000+ from a cold-wallet on to a hot-wallet just in time for it to allegedly get stolen but not even report it to the Police? The only reason for not reporting it to the Police is......?

As far as serial scammer Dean Nolan opening a thread over a month after he closed the website while making it clear he intended to return all funds to all investors (including threats to delay payment if they intend to report him to the Police or try to take legal action against him). He also mentioned he started a new business or was about to start one. I simply put it down to a classic case of misdirection.

It is well known that scammers, thieves and compulsive liars would constantly say things intended to cloud the judgement of interested parties. In this case, serial scammer Dean Nolan is using the forum here to posting for the sake of showing he is trying to repay investors. With that information available in a public forum, anybody thinking of taking him to court in a civil litigation action or reporting him to Police would have to consider the merit of that lie (about him trying to repay the funds to victims). This is classic misdirection.

Consider the alternative, if serial scammer Dean Nolan posted that he did indeed steal the 50+ BTC in October 2019 and blamed it on an imaginary hack and if he also admitted to stealing around a minimum of $3.25 million from the 2017 betking ICO including a minimum of those 30 million BKB tokens and if he admitted he scammed the winners of the 2018 Christmas wager out of 20+ BTC and if he admitted he destroyed any chance of betking being successful when in breach of the ICO promise he deliberately emptied the bankroll funds to use on the buy-back guarantee knowing that he could use it to cash in the stolen 30 million BKB - then what would be the outcome? He would be open to a criminal investigation.

Right now, serial scammer Dean Nolan has only ever posted in this forum when it suited his own needs. The small community of casino who had skype chats and were on friendly terms with each other have excluded this thief. Nobody wants anything to do with him. He only came here trying to spout the same trash that he thinks will extend his time before an inevitable criminal investigation begins. Not all businesses have the person entrusted to run them steal a minimum of over $3 million from it and bankrupt it including topping up the contents of a cold-wallet on to a hot-wallet just before it allegedly got hacked:

BetKing's latest topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201753.0) is self-moderated and locked:
It's very common for scammers to use locked self-moderated threads to promote their scam on Bitcointalk, and Dean is no exception.

What's really nice, is that the thread miraculously gets unlocked every time a sockpuppet totally unrelated Newbie account wants to post there to say what a great guy Dean is. Dean isn't stupid, so he doesn't even care how obvious his sockpupping is.

It really is amazing that serial scammer Dean Nolan is so stupid (as thick as two short planks), what an imbecile. Locking and unlocking the thread to post his propaganda.

Anyway, who can forget his threats to investors including this one he to camtheman recently:

the scammer sucessfully pulled off a big scam. i remember warning guys not to invest in his comeback cos it will be one of the biggest scam in btc dicing . i was given distrut for that from his asslickers, now he is gone with all the cash lol. he is claiming that it was hacked. wtf is hack, someone won big and he was butt hurt and decided to run with the guys profit and peoples investment. if only people listened to me before, this will have bee averted

I remember when you warned about BetKing everywhere, you were doing it wrong way claiming they are cheating while they aren't and BetKing always was probably fair.

It is only a matter of time before the whole story unfolds. I hope serial scammer Dean Nolan gets arrested soon.

He scammed many people, he deserves jail time.

I suspect the point is that Dean wants a place to try link to and make people think there's a slight chance he's working on paying back people. It's a nice strategy to try stall people from taking (legal) action against him. He's even gone as far as to extort people saying that any talking bad of him, or taking any legal recourse against will result in them being not paid back. I think the play here is just that if you can stall people, after a few months they're far less angry about it and far less likely to actually do something.

It's actually pretty much common of scammers to try placate their victims after the fact. I'd say it easily happens 90%+ of the time. I remember when dice.ninja went dark they deleted absolutely all their accounts everywhere and everything, but still left signed-messages from their cold-storage address promising that people would get paid back (which of course never happened).

Very well put. Scammers have a habit employing several tactics which mirror each other but they are all designed to simply misdirect in the hope of extending (as you said) the time to possibly lessen the anger and sentiment that victims feel.

From the perspective of a victim, there is a significant difference between reading these two post because one acknowledges criminality and the other does not therefore a victim might be reluctant to report the matter to the Police:

1) "Hey, the website was hacked and we lost everything but I am working on some other projects and will pay you back but I need a few months"
2) "I am a scammer, I stole funds from you and you will never see your money again"

The fact serial scammer Dean Nolan is posting here with his lies means there has to be a reason behind it and it is clear for most it is an attempt to stop any victims reporting him to the Police.

I received this PM today as notification because serial scammer Dean Nolan deleted the post in his self-moderated thread----

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave:


I would call it disgraceful conduct on his part rather than call it immature but what else is to be expected from serial scammer Dean Nolan. He was last online here in 9th December 2019.

Is there any news about what the thief and scammer is doing at the moment and what lies has he been spinning to his investors that he faked the theft of over $400,000 worth of Bitcoin but conveniently did not report it to the police?

800 btc they got away with. wild times back then.

I think he checks enough boxes to be considered a Narcissistic Sociopath (https://www.verywellmind.com/understanding-the-narcissistic-sociopath-4587611).  Had me fooled for years.

I can understand if he had a legit follower base but as you can see from the fact that he had to use newbie accounts to promote himself and his own views, he doesn't even have a proper following neither, how did he managed to steal so much money when not that many people really liked him?

In any case at least with him now gone and the website being "hacked" we won't have to deal with this now, it is time to start a legal action and I think there are more than enough proof that he stole funds from people with the promise of bigger returns and never made them any returns, his newbie accounts and fake witnesses can't protect him when he is on court, he can hire the best lawyer he can find but when the proof is there and it is concrete all the lawyer can do is try to drop his jail time.

This person just posted in a moderated thread set up by serial scammer Dean Nolan. Looks a very suspicious thing for him to write when everybody knows there was no hack and it was serial scammer Dean Nolan that stolen the funds and shut down the failing website buy blaming it on an imaginary hack to fool people.

I don't know the whole story and from what I knew I made that reply, I don't even play there. Sorry if I offended you at all.

Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all.
The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded.

Give someone trusted control of your affiliate payments.  Let them distribute the payments to investors transparently.
I bet you'd end up getting more sign ups if people weren't thinking all those affiliate fees were going right into your pocket.

Or how about don't make assumptions on shit you have no clue about idiot?

Find the investors in here complaining about the way I'm handling things. Go on, just one ;)

It's a pretty poor argument when you've repeatedly warned investors that they will suffer reprisals (such as being the last to get paid back). I've been personally contacted by people you've scammed, but they've asked me to not say their names to not jeopardize any chances at reimbursement (as calling you out for them has pretty much 0 upside).  Frankly, I'm kind of amazed that this type of intimidation works -- I would've thought everyone realizes there's literally not a chance in hell you'll returned the scammed funds ... but I guess hope is a powerful force.

You're lying.

I'm not returning any scammed funds either. I'm refunding funds that were lost in a hack, which I don't have to do remember. As for the ICO funds, again, not scammed. But that's been documented to death, you just ignore it.

And I've said I would make it up to people there too, out of my own pocket, again something I don't have to do and there's no legal obligation to do so.
Some scammer that eh?

I don't even get the hack story. You claim someone found out the server seed? But how on earth could that lead to someone stealing take MORE than the ENTIRE bankroll?



Well your explanation seems to be "millions of dollars just vanished! (um expenses!!!) And my lawyer told me i don't need to do what i promised!". ok.





And exactly how much of that was your money, vs bitslers? Anyway, even if you reimburse thousands of dollars after scamming millions ... it doesn't materially change anything...

Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.


Again, learn to read retard. Millions didn't just vanish and that has been explained a million times. All investors have had everything explained in far greater detail too and know exactly where every penny went.


Showing how idiotic you are again. I'm actually shocked you were able to have successful sites with how clueless you are honestly.
You can surely tell that I'm providing something Bitsler benefits from here. And the fee for that is distributed back to players, everyone is happy in that exchange.

And get a grip, refunding thousands is a FUCKING FIRST STEP. It's not exactly easy for someone to setup something to make thousands when everyone is actively trying to make sure they can't.

This gets 250 people money back, something I worked pretty hard to do.
Then I only have to deal with a few people, who I'm in contact with anyway and don't need to post on the forum to try and contact them.
Everyone will get a full refund eventually. But I can't exactly just magic money out of thin air. I don't have 8000 btc laying around like you do.

Are you trying to imply the hacker didn't win more than the entire bankroll? If that's the case, why wouldn't you let users withdraw their funds?

I can confidently say on any site I've run, I never would've went live if I couldn't guarantee that it was impossible for a player (with or without the server seed) to win more than the bankroll. That would just be criminally negligent.

Some people managed to get funds, just not everyone. You don't know the nature of the hack, you don't know what you are talking about and I don't need to explain it to you. The people who had funds on site know and they are being refunded, that's all that matters.

Nice to see you ignore the most important parts of my post though so you can just continue later and keep shouting scam about something you know nothing about :)

It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer.

Damn it, Dean. So which is it?




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But man, must suck to have created such a tangled web of lies you can't even offer a reasonable explanation for anything  ;D  

You are such a retard. You again ignore everything. You also proved nothing with that quote and comment. There's no tangled web of lies. Everything I have said has been consistent since the very beginning.

The good thing is my new business which isn't gambling, will be launched next month and working with Bitsler will have meant everyone in the forum had chance to be refunded. I won't need to post here again since everyone else is in my contact list.

Come clean about everything and tell your story from start to finish, including all the success you've had so that others can learn from you.  I'm sure it's a hell of a story that people would love to hear and if you're sincere I bet some good opportunities would come from it.

You loaded your statement "come clean". There's nothing hidden. Everything has been explained by me a million times, you just choose to ignore it and twist my words.
I owe you nothing. I gain zero from changing your mind.

That pretty much should be the way to go forward but obviously the serial scammer Dean Nolan would not be even contemplating that move because he would become surplus to requirements and would literally have no significance in the matter at all.


I also have been contacted by users who clearly stated they would suffer from reprisals if they openly said anything that was counter to what he wanted. He stole $400,000 of the bankroll funds then blamed it on a hack that never took place - so how can he be trusted in any way shape or form?


If he comes clean about everything he will open himself up to litigation and would no doubt signing his own arrest warrant and accepting he would go to jail therefore the serial scammer Dean Nolan will never come clean and own up to all the scams from the 2017 ICO all the way through to the end when he shut down the website after stealing the $400,000 bankroll

Dean, I am also having a hard time following this. If the hacker won the entire bankroll, why did you have problems paying out other players' balances which were NOT part of the bankroll and should have been held in excess of bankroll funds?

You are having a hard time following this because you are reading posts from jolly good, rhavar and other idiots who were not invested or players and had no loss. Yet go out of their way constantly to try and make sure that investors can never be refunded by damagaing my reputation.

The only thing that matters is the site closed and some funds were lost and I'm in the proccess of refunding them. Surely that's a good thing, but not according to the scum in here.

Dean, have you ever put out an official statement on what happened? Why not have, say, RHavar post a bunch of questions for you to answer and you answer everything truthfully? These back and forths where you're hurling insults at people and vice versa are counter productive.

Yes.
I have also answered all his questions before, they are in these threads. I've also pmd him a few times. He doesn't care, he loves the drama and gets off on it.

But here's what you are not realising, there doesn't have to be a public official statement (even though I have posted anyway), it's literally no one's business.
I'm not trying to open a new site, I'm not asking for a new bankroll off people here. I'm not needing people here to trust me with anything and I'm not looking after anyone's funds.

I have a list of people that lost funds and a list of people who had tokens. I've contacted them all. I only post here just for the small amount who may not get the emails, and those add up to a very small amount of the $ value anyway.

Link to official statement? And are you open to answering all questions in an official capacity, will all replies open to scrutiny?

Why would I waste my time again? I've been doing it for 2 years straight and that's when I had something to defend since the site was open. There's no reason for me to now. As said, the people who it effects know the situation and know I'm refunding them out of my own pocket. There's no need for me to give more fuel or drama to cunts on this forum

You say it would be a waste of time but you "waste time" constantly fighting with people for 2 years who you say aren't informed of the situation. It would actually *save* you lots of time to do a Q&A and be done with it. Tell people to refer to that if they have questions. Be willing to answer follow ups truthfully that RHavar has.

If you don't want to answer questions and think it's none of anyone else's business then stop coming on here. Coming here contradicts everything you say when people have questions about what happened and you say it's none of our business.

You used to be a trusted member of this community. If that means anything to you then we deserve answers.

You also need to take *everything* said about you so personally. Answer questions with verifiable replies you're willing to provide proof for. Especially when you are many people doubting you, you *have* to stick to facts that have proof backing them up.

I come here to try and reach the small number of people I can't via email.

The only people doubting me are people who didn't lose anything.

And as said, I've defended myself in over 10 threads now where I've answered questions from jolly/rhavar, you even, lots of people. It's not my fault they all ignore it and try drown it out (check how jolly does that) or twist my words.

I was trusted member of the community but this forum is not the same community it was in 2016 anyway. Everyone has moved on from here

The only thing that matters is that serial scammer Dean Nolan stole the bankroll which resulted in the website closing, then he blamed it on an imaginary hack.

You say you come here to reach people you can't via email, but you also claim that no one who replies to these threads is an investor. Makes no sense.

There are people who just genuinely care about the community, regardless of whether they lost money or not. That is a good thing and many of these people are advocates who, frankly, are smarter than many of the people who get scammed. They ask good, relevant questions that deserve responses.

Lots of the same people are here that were in 2016. Regardless, I don't find that particularly relevant. You aren't obligated to be here.

I haven't been nearly as involved in the story since the ICO and I wasn't personally attached to the website anymore. I try to come here as a neutral voice willing to let you say your side of the story.

rofl, I love how you keep going back and forth between that I know everything and know nothing.

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The reality is pretty simple though, Dean blatantly scammed people. He blatantly ripped off his ICO investors, bankroll investors and his players. He even reached out privately to borrow money (at unbelievable good interest rates) just before scamming people, which to me indicates there was even a level of pre-mediation behind the whole thing.

So, really, the only part that is actually unclear is if he is still sitting on all the money or not. I know he was getting pretty big into day-trading and high(ish?) stake poker. So it's conceivable to me that ended up being real problem gambling, and he ended up trading/betting with money that wasn't his, and lost it.  But that's the charitable explanation for him scamming.

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And the other truth is, if there was a reasonable explanation -- he's just post it instead of guarding it like some secret knowledge. It would in fact take 1/100th the amount of effort to just have a public explanation rather than spinning 100 different and conflicting stories.  The investors I spoke to believe strongly they were all scammed (although, I'm sure there's selection bias involved. ) but want to go through with Dean's little charade in the off-chance they get reimbursed.


But really, the only reason I'm posting here is I just don't want Dean to be able to whitewash his image and act like it was a mistake or simple business failure. In a just world, he'd face some pretty serious prison time for what he did.
 

When I say you are a retard or clueless it's because you ignore the facts I tell you and then make up shit.

"He even reached out privately to borrow money"
Not true, we were having a casual chat and you said you were looking to start getting in to loaning business.
I then asked so that I could have funds to use for the business of BetKing to try more ads/promo to bring players so that I wouldn't need to stop the buybacks. How is that hard for you to understand? You can't be that stupid.
It's so simple. I ran out of funds and saw a way to inject new money into the site so that investors had a better chance of rio in full confidence (maybe wrongly) that I would be able to turn the site around and keep buying tokens AND PAY YOU BACK.
I had even suggested you just buy the tokens instead of loaning as I thought you would have a chance of even more return.
Don't try and turn that in to some dark deceiving tactic based on your own false oppinion when you are just plain wrong.

The only thing wrong with that is maybe I shouldn't have offered you great terms or suggested you buy tokens but I was extremely confident with the funds you offered that I would get BK on track and everything would be great again. Keep in mind that even despite all that is happened, I still reckon I could do that if I had that amount of money now. That's just how I am, you know I am always confident in what I am doing, hence why I still say I'll refund everyone while I'm sitting here with no money.


I think it's extremely clear that I don't have any. I think people know with my ego if I had that money I would again be launching BK and trying to make the most popular btc casino, again.



There's not 100 different stories and you know that. Read through all my posts and your pm's, it's all the exact same consistent story. I can't post anything different because nothing different happened.
It wouldn't be any less effort because I have posted the same truth for 2 years now on here! For everyone to ignore and twist.

It would have been a lot easier to just scam everyone back in 2016, I would have had more money than the ico and hack funds combined. It was even a larger $ amount that I returned to investors.

It's not productive to waste time on this, as you're just making up stuff up as you go. So I'll just state that I disagree with this, and it doesn't resemble reality. I've never been in the loaning business, or interested it in. I only said I'd do it if it was > 100% collateralized, which you kept promising to do -- but at the last minute wouldn't provide the collateral or objecting to the robust escrow system and ask me to follow through with no protections.

And it's just the same right now. I think the loan business is shit and have no interest. But if someone wants to borrow >1M dollars from me, with 30% interest rates and promising >100% collateralization ... well i'm going to be interested. (But ofc no one legitimate would come to me with terms like that, as they'd find someone who is actually in the business lol)

Anyway, nothing wrong with trying and failing. And if you're going to scam, you might as well do it properly -- so hey, no hard feelings. Just trying to paint yourself as the victim isn't a great look.



You keep acting like the truth is "out there", but you consistently refuse to answer the most basic question. Like take yoloer808's question which was asked in good faith. Why don't you prove me wrong, and provide a genuine answer:

https://i.imgur.com/npA6qBu.png

That seems like you were interested.

At that time I had some relative small debts to pay outside of BK and thought this would be perfect. Note that after this I had the exact setup with someone else.

Then you suggested you could lend $1 million

https://i.imgur.com/QQy3K3w.png

To which I thought perfect, we could use a big cash injection on the site and I had big ideas AND people could already buy BKB on the site (no one ever did).
So I suggested you just do that instead. Again, thinking it would benefit you even more in the long run since you get a share of the profit form the actual use of the funds.

https://i.imgur.com/gf8Sl3T.png

Then you said you would want collateral. That's where I started saying I'd just prefer you bought BKB if it's going to be that large an amount. I didn't trust anyone to do escrow or hold funds etc like you suggesting dooglus, someone who I thought would jump at the chance to fuck me out of a million.


https://i.imgur.com/xjTsOav.png

And again me confirming that I didn't ask for a million, it was after you suggested it that I thought about having that to use for BetKing since I was in talks with investors to try and sign Conor McGregor.

https://i.imgur.com/x4v6BGz.png

That's how big I was spending and trying to get the site going. You have to remember when I closed BK the first time I hated that PrimeDice was #1 on DiceSites all the time. It's never been about making as much money as possible, it's always about being #1

If you still read that and think I was trying to scam you then you are just an idiot and I'm going to ignore you from now on. I've proven otherwise.


EDIT: before anyone tries to call bullshit

https://i.imgur.com/KYiTGZ8.png

Thanks for posting the screenshots, even with careful cropping of context they confirm exactly what I said. I'm not quite sure how any reading would seem otherwise.

Anyway, feel free to export the entire history, as it'll show you repeatedly (!!!) trying to screw me.



Anyway, how come you keep avoiding my really simple challenge:

There wasn't careful cropping at all. It was the only relevant parts. I have no need or desire to post the entire history as it has a lot of personal info of yours that I wouldn't post.

I must be retarded then because reading that I can't see how you could possibly even think I was trying to screw you in any way at all. I have learned a few valuable lessons though, that I can't trust anyone at all.
I thought I could trust you and then you started all your shit just because you couldn't admit you were wrong about the bustabit licence. That could have all been handled very easily between you me and Devans too but no, had to rush to the forum didn't you. Devans was in the wrong on that too fwiw


There is no challenge. You keep asking for details on the hack which is of no importance to you. You know how these things go, you have had many hacks on your sites and I've told you of a number over there years that I've had. I don't see what you are looking for, me to send you code or something?

This is nothing more than serial scammer Dean Nolan trying to scam RHavar - pure and simple

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@RHavar

You had a very fortunate escape.

Thankfully you did not invest in betking and thankfully you did not believe anything this serial scammer Dean Nolan was spouting otherwise you would have been the single largest casualty/victim the whole betking scam.

What planet do you live on? How can you think that there is anything in that that suggests I'm trying to scam him? You idiots have lost your mind or have never been outside.

AFAIK I've only had one exploit against my sites and I was extremely public and open with all the details. Including an exact breakdown (including code!) and its implications. You can see how a professional handles it ;D:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709185.800

and it goes without saying, that at no time was even a satoshi of players money at risk.


Now your turn ;)

Your sites have been hacked after you sold the code, yet I'm not accusing you of robbing the new owners.

It's not my turn, I've detailed hacks in the past. Why, because the site was still open and I kept investors and refunded them. Keep in mind I let investors withdraw > 6000 btc when I closed.

Anyway. I've got one question for you and jollygood.

If I manage to refund all the balances that were on BetKing when it closed from my own funds I make in my new business AND buy back the remaining token balances, will you still be calling me a scammer and leaving neative trust on my profile?

I probably wouldn't, unless I had reason to believe the only reason you scammed people in the first place was for some noble higher purpose (e.g. you had to use the money to pay for some multi-million dollar swiss cancer treatment for a family member, or something).

Don't get me wrong, paying everyone back would be an amazing development and I really hope you do. But it wouldn't change what you did, nor fix a huge amount of harm (e.g. after you reneged on your promised token buy-back, you made them virtually worthless and people sold them for cents on the dollar. Buying them back now wouldn't do much to help those people).

Just like if you burnt someone's house down -- it'd be great if you rebuilt it -- but even if you do, doesn't truly cover the extent of damages nor change the fact you're a terrible person for having burnt it down in the first place.

Now, that I answered -- how about you answer a pretty straight-forward and legitimate question (or at least provide us more entertainment with the lengths you go to in avoiding giving a straight answer to anything):

1) People didn't sell them for cents on the dollar, that is total lies. There wasn't anywhere else to sell them but to me on BK.

2) Since you said you would still label me a scammer even after doing that you have shown your motive and now I have absolutely zero reason to answer any of your questions or reply to you again.

So people who were scammed for Bitcoins are being paid back, a maximum of $200 USD?    
Wtf is $200 USD??



1.  Mind telling us how much these worthless tokens were sold back for?  It could not have been much more than that.  There was no where else to sell them cause no exchange would want that garbage listed.
2.  Scammers gonna scam

Where?  I've only see vague explanations, maybe I missed it.

These things should all be easy to find if there was a hack.  If they aren't you should make them:

When did it happen.
How did it happen.
How much.
What are the tx ids.
What did you do after the hack.
What and when did you make it public.
How much have you paid back, and how much do you still owe to how many people.


Be as detailed as possible with transaction ids and any other evidence.  The more vague you are, the more it looks like there was no hack.

There is nothing in the forum, the serial scammer Dean Nolan tried to keep it all hush-hush until I posted about the betking website being down so there were no explanations that either you or anybody else missed.

Some investors started posting there complaining so he tried to get them to stop posting publicly and chatted with them in PMs. Here was the first post that set the ball rolling:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg52759795#msg52759795

He never even reported the alleged theft/hack to the police because that would him signing his own jail sentence because he stole the final $400,000 bankroll.

The question remains, exactly how much of the millions of USD$ that he stolen from the 2017 ICO onwards does he actually still have?

That's pretty easy to disprove. e.g.



Ooops.





The question wasn't even mine, it was yoloer808's. You've probably spent hours on this thread alone, and can't even answer a simple question  ;D

... and after all that, once again serial scammer Dean Nolan cannot answer simple questions put forward to him.

This should be easy to answer and prove for Dean. Why he wouldn't if he's innocent is beyond comprehension.

I'll say this one last time. I am due no explanation to anyone in here. There are no investors or players affected asking and you all proved there's no point in replying since I asked:


And got the reply


So clearly there's no point in me wasting any more time on this forum trying to convince otherwise since you all will still label me a scammer even if everyone is paid back in full (which I'm still going to do).

I will only post in the BK thread when there's more refunds. Not going to feed trolls or waste time any more. Got shit to do and support from the people that matter.

If those vague explanations of the hack are the best you can do, then yeah, you're wasting your time.  We aren't idiots.

Looks really shady Dean, even with me giving you the benefit of the doubt. And, I'd argue that as somebody who was once a trusted member of the Bitcoin community and ran what was at one time the biggest dice site that served many of the members here (including me), you *DO* owe it to the community to give a detailed explanation - with proof - of what happened.

For what it's worth to others: Dean is notoriously fuckin hard headed so I do think it's possible he got hacked still and for whatever reason is sticking to his guns, but it should be assumed he's scammed everyone until he provides proof to the community.

He called me a bunch of mean things in a pm.  :'(

Seriously though Dean, this isn't personal.  If RHaver, Dooglus, Stunna or literally any other person that runs a gambling site lost player funds due to a hack and wasn't able to explain exactly what happened, along with evidence, they'd get destroyed just like you.  Think about what would happen if people could just get away with that kind of thing?

Exactly. Dean wants to make everything personal when in reality, every single person that runs a large site would be held to the exact same standard. Dean has the biggest victim mentality of quite literally any person I've ever come across.

Jeez I really stepped into a shitstorm.

Dean, just some words of advice from an impartial observer: You claim that everything has been well documented and explained on the forums, yet after a cursory search I was only able to find more threads of you arguing with the usual suspects. I don't think writing a few concise paragraphs about how the hack happened, what the response was, why the missing funds are in excess of the bankroll, what tx id's were involved etc. is so much to ask. Once you have one solid post explaining what happened, you can always refer to it once these discussions break out again.

I feel you are doing yourself a disservice by posting the way you are, although I understand that you must be going trough a very stressful period in your life.

Sounds to me like a classic ICO project...

Can someone explain why so many gambling projects use some form of the investment?

I owe this forum fuck all.
This forum has caused me to lose millions of $ and destroyed my reputation (probably the 2nd most trusted person in this community at one point after dooglus).

Where was the community defending me and BetKing BEFORE anything happened when JollyGood was claiming the site was a scam for almost a year before there was even a problem?
Where were the token holders who managed to sell all their tokens for profit defending me?
Where were all the old BetKing bankroll investors, who made millions because of me, pointing out how obvious it was that jolly good was talking shit?

It was me left defending myself every single day. You can check my post history, I posted replies to all this shit for years non stop until it just became pointless.
No one would even believe anything I wrote. We just lost more and more players because of it.

No help from players, no token holders, no investors, no ex investors posted once to say he was wrong and the site was legit.

They all just believed his lies and even spread them themselves too.

Somehow I even got punished for being honest with investors. 

Investors are lucky I care about my name and that I'm a good person because this would be the easiest situation in the world to just say fuck it and not bother. They lost money investing ffs, what ceo would refund them? None.
Half them don't deserve it anyway after what they put me through.

So again, I owe you fuck all and I'll be off of here come June 1st when the final Bitsler refunds are done.

... so serial scammer Dean Nolan has never fully explained anything in detail regarding the alleged hack  ::)

And I can think of at least 3 occasions where serial scammer Dean Nolan threw a tantrum and said he was never coming back to this but returned several weeks later

I bet dooglus would recommend you provide all the details of what happened to the money you were responsible for.

I wish you'd put aside the ego and put down the weapons just once, and just clearly explain yourself.

No one agrees that you shouldn't say anything. And there's plenty of well-reasoned, logical people here who would back you up if you proved your innocence.

Prove it though. All the other shit you or anyone else says is meaningless. Just stick to the proof and the facts.

Here is the regular pattern to how serial scammer Dean Nolan posts... He claims he owes nothing and explains nothing yet posts that he already explained this and that.

Just a month ago he told users in the Telegram group that he was going back to a 9-5 job because he was having difficulties as he was effectively penniless. Nobody believes that he has none of the $4 million or so that he stolen from betking. He is doing this drama of trying to 'help' ex-betking victims as a back up which might lend credence when he tries to repair the damage to his reputation. We should not forget he is the one who stole millions from the ICO in 2017 and stole ever since all the way up until October 2019 when he closed the website down after he stole the $400,000 Bitcoin bankroll.

I have no idea why serial scammer Dean Nolan believes he was "probably the 2nd most trusted person in this community at one point after dooglus" when that could not be further from the truth.

Damn, Dean, you were always kind of cool back in the day. I still remember when I found your site back in 2012-13. But I watched as your greed took over when you had an opportunity to legitimately enter the dice market, and it has been a further downward spiral morally ever since. Wish I could say I was surprised.  :(

And here's the problem with this forum, read a thread title from an idiot and believe it as fact.

Also what do you mean a chance to enter the dice market? I ran the most popular and most profitable dice site for 2 years straight and that's an easily verifiable fact.

this guy should be banned from this forum and other forums. he is an unrepentant scammer/ after scamming people of their hard earned cash, he closed the site with hundreds of thousands of dollars inside, then later come up with some shitty shit of paying people who left cash in betking 200$/
i will never play in any site that partners with this scammer.

he is an unrepentant scammer. he is coming for more scams. this trick is to make people believe he is trusted. once he gains little trust from a few dumb fucks, he will then shoot the next scam. imagine, he closed a site with hundreds of dollars inside and he didnt talk of paying all. he is talking of paying 200$ out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. what a joker. dean is a pathetic scammer. i hope he rots soon.

My best guess as to what happened is Dean gambled away or spent all of the money, and in *his* mind it wasn't a scam cause he thought he'd be able to eventually make enough money with another project. I seriously doubt he has any money left. He is right that he gave back 6000 bitcoin to investors, that is the only reason I hesitate to call the guy a straight up scammer. He's just really, really, really fucking bad at PR and marketing. Fame and fortune fell into his lap when just-dice exited the dice market and he was the only viable alternate dice site, and unfortunately Dean squandered that opportunity in pretty spectacular fashion. To be penniless after being essentially guaranteed to be rich the rest of your life is a tough pill to swallow. I legitimately feel for him.

Unfortunately, I don't think Dean has anyone in his professional life he listens to to tell him when he's wrong, and actually heed the advice. That ego and standoff-ish attitude have led to him squandering a literal fortune.

Lol @ you if you think I'd base my opinion of you on a random forum thread, and not from (many) personal interactions and observations. I'm not here to say whether you are or not a scammer, because it doesn't affect me either way. I chose to stop doing any kind of business with you years ago. But I do remember when we first met and how chill you were. Bitcoin wasn't nearly as blown up as it is now, and neither was your ego. Obviously, all things change with time.

What do I mean by a chance to enter the dice market, really? I was with you when you were still struggling to build your site off the back of poker (and dogecoin lol) and the only reason you even made the jump exclusively to dice was because a certain site exited the market, leaving a large void, which you saw as a chance to use to line your pockets. I never blamed you for being an opportunist, which you admitted to in PRC chat many times.

Sorry you are feeling so insecure these days as to take my initial comments as such a personal attack, but there is no denying you have made a turn (for the worse) over the past seven to eight years. Regardless, I still wish you well in your life and hope you can figure out something that will make you happy.

Believe me, I used to think you were a good person unless you were actually in your shoes but, when you started blaming your investors for the ^failure^ of your tokens? Seriously? Where the fuck did the BTC go? Have you ever come up with the real truth behind your shady stories, huh?


True, but this is also true that it was "2 years ago" and BTC was not the same as it is now. And you took the advantage of looting your investors and didn't even buy back your tokens while just asking other new investors to go for your worthless tokens and trying to make your ICO investors a few more pennies. That's shit. If you didn't have any backup plans on what you were going to do, how you were going to return your investors if (what already happened) something unusual was going to happen?

I think you're perhaps being a bit too charitable. My sincere guess is that he's sitting on a considerable amount of bitcoin, and the im-so-broke is just a cover story to make recovery attempts sound unattractive. After all, that was his entire defence against investors considering (starting?) expensive legal action against him (along with threats that those would be the last to be "paid back").

We know he originally closed his site when he had secured enough money to basically comfortable retire. Then he only returned to the scene after seeing the ICO craze, and the opportunity to sell millions (!) of dollars of tokens to just reopen his site.

At one point even expressed interest in buying my site, I can't remember exactly but I think the number were were kicking around was ~10M dollars? And he was going to earmark funds for bankrolling it too. So I just don't see how the sudden leap from multi-millionaire with FU money, to penniless supposedly happened. I mean I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he developed a gambling problem or something, and blew everyone's money. But him trying to pretend he's penniless cause of "marketing" and "hacking" is ridiculous.

I could muster some empathy for him if he could be genuine for 30 seconds and try make amends. Until then, I think he's just an unrepentant scammer who is only here to add confusion and try clean up his name.

He's recently started the affiliate hustle, betking.io is now affiliate links and he's been spamming sign up offers to a bunch of other sites to betking emails.

I think he's probably broke, most likely gambled it all away and his database is pretty much the only thing of value he's got left.

I wonder if Bitsler is letting him keep affiliate earnings from the players that sign up through his link and take a refund.  Pretty sweet deal for Dean if he's able claim a bunch of the $200 refunds himself + get a cut of anyone that signs up and blows the $200 or becomes a bitsler regular and maybe even repair his reputation a bit.

I don't think Bitsler team is naive, they are risking their reputation by partnership with Betking

It's all speculation of course because Dean is extremely shady when you ask him for proof of anything. He's extremely hard to talk to because he re-directs constantly and leaves out important details, cherry picking what is easy for him. But, the fact he did run the dice site for years and did return player funds *to me* gives him some level of credibility. I think he would pay out of his own pocket if he could to refund entire player balances. I could easily be wrong. But I don't also want to call him a scammer just yet. I just think he's broke.

It's certainly possible he's broke, but there's no way that happened without him misappropriating funds. Like for him to have no money, it means he managed to lose:

a) His own money [Ok, fine. Who doesn't like hookers and blow, and it's his to waste ]
b) Bankroll investor money [Ok, fine. I'm willing to suspend disbelieve and accept there was a bug in which someone knew the server and won the server seed]

but more dubiously:

c) ICO investor money [wtf, I've run a far bigger site than Deans. There's no way he would've even put a dent in the raised funds, even with its low volumes it should've been turning a mild profit]

and then last, completely unexplainable:

d) Player balance funds [in fact, Dean has yet to even comment on how this is even possible. That's how outrageous it is]


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I knew there was something wrong when Dean kept bugging me to buy his ICO tokens, and I expressed concern about him canceling the buy-backs. Dean kept saying that it was impossible, and I pointed out there could even be external events that made it impossible such as bitcoin price gaping down. Dean then tried to assure me that it was impossible, because he "systems in place" to automatically sell bitcoin if the price fell such that it would risk his ability to do the buy-backs.

That was the moment I knew there was something seriously wrong. It was clearly bullshit, no one in crypto is going to keep their funds on an exchange with auto-sell orders. Like c'mon. I bit my tongue and politely refused, but I knew there was something brewing and warned a few people to be careful. Then very shortly after, he unilaterally decided to not honor the promised buy-back scheme. There's just no way you can possible spin Dean's actions as anything but scammy to the extreme.

I think the only question is: why? Did he develop a gambling or drug problem and blow everyone's money? Or is he just greedy and sitting on everyone's money?

 

Thank you for your post. I agree he should be banned from this and other forums.


Yes I agree, he is an unrepentant scammer.


I cannot afford the serial scammer Dean Nolan the same charity that you do. I feel sorrow just for those that he scammed, I feel not even an iota of pity for him.

It has yet to be ascertained whether serial scammer Dean Nolan has actually lost all the funds he stole from the 2017 betking ICO all the way through to October 2019 when he closed the site down.

About his ego, that has been a huge contributor to his downfall. Way back in 2017 when I read about the ICO in the thread I asked why someone who claimed to be a multi-millionaire would be seeking investors when he could just start up the website himself and reap all the rewards of profits for himself. That was when he threw a tantrum and said he was not going to answer questions, I knew this whole scam would unravel one day.

My guess is he gambled and spent it all away, including player funds. The player balance liability was a relatively low number he *thought* he'd have enough equity with his business to cover in a doomsday scenario where he lost all money (Ex: sell Betking assets, start new businesses). Problem is Dean has *always* massively overrated his worth

*Bare minimum* highly negligent. If he does have the intention of paying back everything though - and Bitsler is a start - I wouldn't label him a scammer. I think he's unethical for sure. I'd love for him to post proof and prove everyone wrong, but his refusal to do so looks terrible. I have to assume, reluctantly, that what he describes did not happen.

I do acknowledge you are highly intelligent and nuanced with your thoughts though so I respect your point of view on this. I was the one who wrote the original post on reddit calling out the ICO for being scummy. Dean has and always will be driven by making a buck. It's his *only* purpose. I think in his mind he believes his reputation is salvageable and his name is worth something. I disagree and think that's dumb, but at the same time it's probably the reason people will - hopefully - be paid back.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan only posts in the threads and at times that suit his agenda. And what does he normally spout? The same things again and again but it is nothing except failed attempts at deflection and misdirection.

Eh, he seems to be rage posting a lot lately.  Definitely not doing himself any favors.

His tantrums are nothing new but it is interesting to see him attack everybody and anybody that tried to get a word in edgeways. Back in 2017 when he returned back to the forum to create and then steal from the betking ICO, he was already spitting his dummy out claiming he was being asked questions that he did not like.

He definitely was one of those people that suffered from a superiority complex, he always thought he was bigger, better and higher than the rest of us. For him to see his reputation in tatters is something that he rightfully deserves.

On a funny side-note, Dean has a locked thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.0) and yet somehow miraculously new accounts keep managing to post in the minutes it's unlocked before Dean locks it again!  :o

But it's pretty great when Dean uses one of his shill-accounts, and then you can see their post history:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1025632

rofl.

I kind of feel bad for bitdice.me, I wonder how many shill accounts Dean has used to claim funds  ;D

Of the maximum $18,000 that Bitsler are willing to put up towards trying to pull in ex-betking players they will no doubt find out very soon that by far the majority of the funds paid out in batches of $200 must have gone to accounts specifically created by and for serial scammer Dean Nolan to pocket the cash.

I would think that he might have squandered all the money into a luxurious life, and he did not thought of it as something sinister because he thinks that he could make another project and make tons of money out of it that he could use to pay his investors. I am dubious whether he still has the money to do more projects, I really doubt that. During that time where he returned 6000 bitcoin to investors, I really cheered for him and that gave me a reason not to completely call him a bad bad man. I really think of it as something like a bad marketing issue that he cannot handle very well. I will just wish him that he learn from his mistakes and move on doing things legit.

There is no way you can spend THAT much money to luxury life, he has to have some of it to his account for this day. But what we are not really seeing is that, if you are doing something like this to scam people, you are usually not alone, he is the face of the heist but there must have been some other people with him as well, so he had  to keep paying people to stay silent as well, that has to be the biggest portion that he lost.

I really do not think he needs the 200 dollars to claim from bitsler but I agree that it looks like he is doing it as well, so I can't really say why someone who stole that much money would still come in for the extra 200 dollars? It doesn't compute in my mind to get millions of dollars and still try to work hard for 200 more. He is definitely a weird dude.

No amount of money is too much to gamble away in a very short period of time.  Lose thousands that aren't yours and then millions chasing the thousands.  In my opinion, that's most likely what happened with Dean.  I would be absolutely shocked if he's not broke.

Oh commee oooon, there is no way he is broke. I get that he is a scam artist and he is a bad person, but he did managed to steal this much money from people, which means he can't be an idiot. He is evil, but not a stupid evil, I think he could be even a very smart evil if you ask me. If I were to steal that much money from people ever (and let's hope my life never becomes that) I would probably put that into smart investments to make it even bigger. You know why? Because most of the time when you steal someones money and get sued and have to pay it back, you get out of it with pretty much white collar jail time.

So, let's say you steal 100 million dollars, you end up paying back 120 million and 2 years in jail and you get out. So if I could have like 100 to 150 million type of increase, I would still have 30 million dollars in my pocket.

Bump.

Dean was nice enough to spam his mailing list with his affiliate link to Verve Casino, a relatively new site with a horrible rep of slow paying, not paying, refusing to communicate, ect... With open unaddressed scam accusations on the forum, they continued to bump their own thread.

Here's the email:
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less than 48 hours later the Casino exit scammed.  Just POOF disappeared.

Nice work Dean.

All the while his own betking.io website still has that "relaunching soon" message.

His reputation is damaged beyond repair but still I hope somewhere along the line Dean Nolan stops to reflect on what impact his actions are having on crypto investors and game players. Getting affiliation fees from links by promoting websites before carrying out due diligence on them is irresponsible but it is just another one of many issues related to him.

Ever since he got greedy when ICOs were the on the scene in 2017 he thought he could return back the bankroll and make more money by going alone using ICO funds. Well he did make more money simply because of millions of USD$ he admitted taking from the 2017 ICO which directly amounted to $3.25 million. None of the funds were spent in the way they were supposed to and with him not being held to account and him publishing no evidence about expenditure it seems the extent of the scam went above the $4 million mark and considering the 2017 ICO brought in $6.5 million it was clear betking was going to fail because Dean Nolan was going to personally pocket $USD millions.

After that he went down the EOS route, created billions of new BKT (betking tokens) and made more money. Then of course he stole the final bankroll and drummed up a story about there being a hack but he never reported it to the police.

All this drama is rooted in events surrounding his greed. It is clear betking failed because when investors has their bankroll returned other casinos and gaming sites took over and betking was never going to encroach on their space and those that invested in the original betking bankroll were also regularly betting there, they were promoting betking to their family and friends too. As soon as the bankroll was returned all those investors took their investment elsewhere and stopped betting at betking.

I hope one day Dean Nolan really does tell everybody how much he scammed from the 2017 ICO (both directly and indirectly) and in 2019 EOS BKT scam, the bankroll exit scam and the Christmas wager scam.

Newbies need to be made aware that Betking is making a comeback and if they invest they will lose their funds and also if they win the chances are they will not receive their winnings !

The "relaunching soon" message which was displayed for many months has been replaced with "Relaunching April 2021"



https://i.postimg.cc/dQS3qmk7/betking-scam1-Copy.png

You're going to see a lot of people coming out of the woodwork trying to reclaim the large bankroll investors that are leaving Bustabit. Explains this.

I hope people divesting from other casinos and gaming websites never make the mistake of joining any bankroll at betking.io I am confident they will not even be tempted