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Title: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: rolleth.io on August 23, 2018, 02:21:34 PM
Hey, guys! :) I want to discuss with you strategies that you use in roulette and tell a little more about win-win bets strategy. It is not intended for bets on equal chances, but for bets on a dozen or a column. It is based on the same principle as all progressive strategies – in case of losing the bet must be increased, in case of winning – leave unchanged.

The sequence of bets for the system is as follows:

1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 6 – 9 – 13 – 20 – 30 – 45 – 67 – 100

In other words, if you bet all the time on the first column, and falls, for example, the number of the second or third column, you must first increase the rate to 2, then – to 3, to 4 and so on, following the above sequence.

This system of win-win rates compared to the Martingale system has one undoubted advantage: the size of the rate increases gradually, and does not double every time, so you can use it even when your budget is limited.

This system has an alternative option for bets on two columns or a dozen at once – the so-called system of triple bets. In this case, you bet on two dozen or two columns at once, similarly increasing the bet in case of loss-but three times:

1 - 3 - 9 - 27 - 81 - 243

Following this strategy, you can "close" just half of all the sectors present on the roulette wheel, so that will win more than half of the bets. And the disadvantage of the system is that the bets are tripled every time you lose, and thus the player very quickly reaches the limit of bets set in the online casino.

Let's discuss! ;)


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: shanem on August 23, 2018, 03:49:58 PM
I don't think any strategy can work in roulette. The odds are always against you no matter what strategy you use because of the additional zero on the wheel. This is depending on your luck and you could keep losing if your luck is bad.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: Indrawan77 on August 24, 2018, 05:30:37 AM
This is the second time I heard this kind of strategy, the first time I heard this strategy is from youtube, I kind of doubt that it will works, in the long term of course we won't able to beat the house but short time it probably could work because the winning percentage is more than 60% , but one problem that caught my eyes is the capital is too big and make me rethink that it is wise to bet so big to get so little reward


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on August 24, 2018, 06:11:08 AM
That’s a lose-lose strategy, as any other “strategy” that tries to beat the house. At some point someone is going to make a bit of money, due to variance in the short-term, the same as in martingale but in the long term the house always wins.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 24, 2018, 06:18:23 AM
So this strategy can beat the law of gravity? It can predict where the ball will fall next? If this strategy really works how come I haven't heard of multiple winners in roulette by using this strategy. You can't simply predict where the ball will fall. Its a game of chance and pure luck unless you are part of Oceans group.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: XxGaMblerxX on August 24, 2018, 12:26:06 PM
I don't think any strategy can work in roulette. The odds are always against you no matter what strategy you use because of the additional zero on the wheel. This is depending on your luck and you could keep losing if your luck is bad.

I usually stick to the exit strategy if I'm unlucky or I've reached the spending limit.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: XxGaMblerxX on August 24, 2018, 12:36:20 PM
So this strategy can beat the law of gravity? It can predict where the ball will fall next? If this strategy really works how come I haven't heard of multiple winners in roulette by using this strategy. You can't simply predict where the ball will fall. Its a game of chance and pure luck unless you are part of Oceans group.

I think we should stick to the strategy of observing and finding patterns first, and then create our own strategy.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: Sam Johns on August 24, 2018, 01:05:58 PM
That’s a lose-lose strategy, as any other “strategy” that tries to beat the house. At some point someone is going to make a bit of money, due to variance in the short-term, the same as in martingale but in the long term the house always wins.

In my experience, the martingale system did not give a great result in the long term, too. Sometimes zero worked, but more often I try to look at how the algorithm works and make decisions based on this.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: BossMacko on August 24, 2018, 01:28:29 PM
Having strategy will only make you last long. Win win strategy won't happen if it is they won't continue to provide you the game. Roullete is base on luck best win win strategy for me is to get out of the game whenever you are already winning.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: rolleth.io on August 24, 2018, 02:43:28 PM
Having strategy will only make you last long. Win win strategy won't happen if it is they won't continue to provide you the game. Roullete is base on luck best win win strategy for me is to get out of the game whenever you are already winning.

Very interesting opinion! Do you use anything to increase your chances of winning?


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: btcdevil on August 24, 2018, 03:35:04 PM
Having strategy will only make you last long. Win win strategy won't happen if it is they won't continue to provide you the game. Roullete is base on luck best win win strategy for me is to get out of the game whenever you are already winning.

What you said is not only for roullete but it impliance for even other gambling games also as when you have won some games then better leave it for that day and start betting next day. As often i have seen players first winning good but after some bets their badluck starts and even on good cards they lose it and in the end endup in empty the bankroll.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: kripkiki12 on August 24, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
I wonder if real life casinos tolerate the strategies. Me personally, I do not trust in online casinos when it comes to roulette, but it is never in favor of the player


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: swogerino on August 24, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
I wonder if real life casinos tolerate the strategies. Me personally, I do not trust in online casinos when it comes to roulette, but it is never in favor of the player

That is true because the online casinos can even roll 100 times red which is impossible in real life. If you bet 100 times on red in real life you will certainly win a bet but you need Martingale to be profitable here and offline casinos have betting limits, you can't bet more than a certain amount for a bet.

Roulette can easily be beaten with Martingale if we had a lot of money and the offline casino would let us bet any amount of money for a bet. The offline casinos know this so they have put betting limits.

You can not have a win-win strategy in roulette as you are playing against a game of luck.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: babygun on August 24, 2018, 06:26:44 PM
Hey, guys! :) I want to discuss with you strategies that you use in roulette and tell a little more about win-win bets strategy. It is not intended for bets on equal chances, but for bets on a dozen or a column. It is based on the same principle as all progressive strategies – in case of losing the bet must be increased, in case of winning – leave unchanged.

The sequence of bets for the system is as follows:

1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 6 – 9 – 13 – 20 – 30 – 45 – 67 – 100

In other words, if you bet all the time on the first column, and falls, for example, the number of the second or third column, you must first increase the rate to 2, then – to 3, to 4 and so on, following the above sequence.

This system of win-win rates compared to the Martingale system has one undoubted advantage: the size of the rate increases gradually, and does not double every time, so you can use it even when your budget is limited.

This system has an alternative option for bets on two columns or a dozen at once – the so-called system of triple bets. In this case, you bet on two dozen or two columns at once, similarly increasing the bet in case of loss-but three times:

1 - 3 - 9 - 27 - 81 - 243

Following this strategy, you can "close" just half of all the sectors present on the roulette wheel, so that will win more than half of the bets. And the disadvantage of the system is that the bets are tripled every time you lose, and thus the player very quickly reaches the limit of bets set in the online casino.

Let's discuss! ;)

This is just another variant on Martingale. In the long end this will not be profitable, such as any Martingale strategy.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: mindrust on August 24, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
Don't be a retard. If there was a win-win strategy on any game, the house wouldn't exist.

The best chance for you to make money is going all in on one game. %50 winning chance is fine. You'll be getting %98-99 because of the house edge but it is still ok. Just flip a coin and see if you are lucky. That's all about gambling especially when it comes to the games like roulette and dice.

All you need is pure luck and nothing else.

If you are afraid to go all in, (and you should) then doing complicated sequences doesn't make sense even more. Because of the house edge the longer you play the more certain it becomes for you to lose money. The only situation you can get away with it is going all in.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: kryptqnick on August 24, 2018, 08:53:23 PM
Hey, guys! :) I want to discuss with you strategies that you use in roulette and tell a little more about win-win bets strategy. It is not intended for bets on equal chances, but for bets on a dozen or a column. It is based on the same principle as all progressive strategies – in case of losing the bet must be increased, in case of winning – leave unchanged.

This is a basic principle of martingale, a naturally appealing but very risky betting strategy, usually used for dice with 50/50 chances. The thing is that even with a 1/2 probability of winning sometimes the wrong thing comes out 5 or even 10 times in a row. As a person is losing, the bet is being doubled, so losses come extremely fast and eventually huge amounts of money are lost with no funds to compensate them. It keeps looking like the next bet will change everything and at least compensate all the losses, and a gambler doesn't even realize how much money is lost already. I don't believe there's any strategy to win roulette. It's a game of pure chance.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: chris200x9 on August 24, 2018, 11:31:29 PM
I wonder if real life casinos tolerate the strategies. Me personally, I do not trust in online casinos when it comes to roulette, but it is never in favor of the player

If you think logically then you will understand that casino owners are doing a business so they expect a profit from their investment and time on these house setup. So surely players got a less chance to win. Some addicted gamblers will keep on thinking about new methods to win against a house to make an easy money but that will never happen unless they are lucky.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: sportbettor on August 25, 2018, 11:51:33 AM
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Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: el kaka22 on August 25, 2018, 12:01:34 PM
I am still shocked and surprised every single time someone comes up and says they found a way to win in gambling.
There is no way of winning on gambling because you are playing against a house edge that tips the advantage towards the casino itself.

Because of the zero on the roll there is no way you are at an advantage while gambling on roulette, you can try any strategy you want and you can bet however weirdly you want but in the end house always wins on the long run because there is a house edge. You need to find a place with negative house edge to find a winning strategy and that just doesn't exists at all.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: squatz1 on August 25, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
I am still shocked and surprised every single time someone comes up and says they found a way to win in gambling.
There is no way of winning on gambling because you are playing against a house edge that tips the advantage towards the casino itself.

Because of the zero on the roll there is no way you are at an advantage while gambling on roulette, you can try any strategy you want and you can bet however weirdly you want but in the end house always wins on the long run because there is a house edge. You need to find a place with negative house edge to find a winning strategy and that just doesn't exists at all.

It's the mind of a gambler, they want to be able to convince themselves that they've found out the way to win -- and in their mind, it is the way to win, while they're winning at least. Sadly enough all of this will end at a certain point, and all of it will come crashing down on them when they lose it all.

This is a cycle where these people keep trying to crack the code -- though they don't understand that the code they're trying to crack is a code which is set up to beat them.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: btc_angela on August 26, 2018, 05:30:24 AM
This strategy might work at the beginning but we all know that sooner or later you will face successive losses. So it won't work in the long run. I really don't know your obsessions about roulette, its a pure luck based game and no amount of strategy will give you profits if you don't control your emotions. I mean you should stop while you are still on the green side.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: sweetbet on August 26, 2018, 10:01:24 PM
There is no such thing as a win-win strategy for any game out there. If there was, then I would quit my job and spend 8 hours a day at a casino :) Casinos were designed to generate money for themselves, and not for the players.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: Aikidoka on August 27, 2018, 10:26:39 AM
I do not think any of what you mentioned above is successful. The roulette thing is based on luck nothing more. But I appreciate your efforts and coming with that strategy. People always need to find good solutions for hard games. But concerning the Roulette, I do not think people can cheat or beat it with a strategy. It is quite difficult to be honest. However, if you play Roulette and use your strategy and win several times, let us know. Who knows about the future anyway!


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: rickadone on August 29, 2018, 04:10:11 PM
This strategy might work at the beginning but we all know that sooner or later you will face successive losses. So it won't work in the long run. I really don't know your obsessions about roulette, its a pure luck based game and no amount of strategy will give you profits if you don't control your emotions. I mean you should stop while you are still on the green side.
Using gambling strategy works like nemesis! One way or the other, it would just end up catching up with you.
Gambling entirely is total luck and nothing different which makes me wonder why anyone would so much in their right mind think with some strategy, they can get to start hitting it big from gambling.

Also, it would even be hard for anyone to control their emotions when the reality that is attached to gambling starts kicking in, which is why some get so comfortable relying on strategy until they lose everything. Strategy is just a reason to console ourselves to stick within gambling at right direction but in practical no strategy works for us unlike how they do seem while figuring out in papers.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: avikz on August 30, 2018, 12:00:09 AM
Hey, guys! :) I want to discuss with you strategies that you use in roulette and tell a little more about win-win bets strategy. It is not intended for bets on equal chances, but for bets on a dozen or a column. It is based on the same principle as all progressive strategies – in case of losing the bet must be increased, in case of winning – leave unchanged.

The sequence of bets for the system is as follows:

1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 6 – 9 – 13 – 20 – 30 – 45 – 67 – 100

In other words, if you bet all the time on the first column, and falls, for example, the number of the second or third column, you must first increase the rate to 2, then – to 3, to 4 and so on, following the above sequence.

This system of win-win rates compared to the Martingale system has one undoubted advantage: the size of the rate increases gradually, and does not double every time, so you can use it even when your budget is limited.

This system has an alternative option for bets on two columns or a dozen at once – the so-called system of triple bets. In this case, you bet on two dozen or two columns at once, similarly increasing the bet in case of loss-but three times:

1 - 3 - 9 - 27 - 81 - 243

Following this strategy, you can "close" just half of all the sectors present on the roulette wheel, so that will win more than half of the bets. And the disadvantage of the system is that the bets are tripled every time you lose, and thus the player very quickly reaches the limit of bets set in the online casino.

Let's discuss! ;)

What you are talking mainly Martingale strategy. At least the part where you are asking to increase the best after each loosing bet and keep it unchanged after each winning bet.

I hope you will find some stupid who will believe that strategy works in Roulette game!! That is too Martingale! Good luck!!


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: Caladonian on August 30, 2018, 03:19:12 AM
There is no such thing as a win-win strategy for any game out there. If there was, then I would quit my job and spend 8 hours a day at a casino :) Casinos were designed to generate money for themselves, and not for the players.
Perfectly said, there's no such things where we can always win even that you've got higher percentage chances to lose back are still there, if there's such thing exist just like you I'll never go to my day job and play alone, but reality said that gambling is always pure luck whatever working strategy that works
for some time will also be diminished after a long time playing or worse will completely burned out.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: iv4n on September 08, 2018, 05:08:35 AM
There is no such thing as a win-win strategy for any game out there. If there was, then I would quit my job and spend 8 hours a day at a casino :) Casinos were designed to generate money for themselves, and not for the players.
Perfectly said, there's no such things where we can always win even that you've got higher percentage chances to lose back are still there, if there's such thing exist just like you I'll never go to my day job and play alone, but reality said that gambling is always pure luck whatever working strategy that works
for some time will also be diminished after a long time playing or worse will completely burned out.

You can always make random bets, you can have a lot of luck with that. I also don't believe in win win strategies for any game, but I believe that some strategies can be a win win for some period of time. That's why I always suggest combining strategies you have as much as you can, be random, make crazy bets in some moments, push when ever you can in direction you find it's the best for that moment. I love to play roulette and I play it often, I always look casinos with minimal bets, in that way with my amount I can play more aggressive, I can double and triple my bets, it's important to have free space for maneuvers, if you don't you will have a very hard job, roulette asks for big bankroll if you wish to have fun and win.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: Wete on October 08, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
In my opinion, the strategy is needed because it will increase the chances of winning, only increasing the chances of not 100% winning. whatever types of gambling opportunities win and lose are as big as 50-50. Personally I believe that gambling is very dependent on luck.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: adroitful_one on October 08, 2018, 07:39:56 PM
Hey, guys! :) I want to discuss with you strategies that you use in roulette and tell a little more about win-win bets strategy. It is not intended for bets on equal chances, but for bets on a dozen or a column. It is based on the same principle as all progressive strategies – in case of losing the bet must be increased, in case of winning – leave unchanged.

The sequence of bets for the system is as follows:

1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 6 – 9 – 13 – 20 – 30 – 45 – 67 – 100

In other words, if you bet all the time on the first column, and falls, for example, the number of the second or third column, you must first increase the rate to 2, then – to 3, to 4 and so on, following the above sequence.

This system of win-win rates compared to the Martingale system has one undoubted advantage: the size of the rate increases gradually, and does not double every time, so you can use it even when your budget is limited.

This system has an alternative option for bets on two columns or a dozen at once – the so-called system of triple bets. In this case, you bet on two dozen or two columns at once, similarly increasing the bet in case of loss-but three times:

1 - 3 - 9 - 27 - 81 - 243

Following this strategy, you can "close" just half of all the sectors present on the roulette wheel, so that will win more than half of the bets. And the disadvantage of the system is that the bets are tripled every time you lose, and thus the player very quickly reaches the limit of bets set in the online casino.

Let's discuss! ;)

I am going to have to try this. I am not to familiar with roulette. I have only recently started playing it. I have just been betting lets say .001 Btc on a color and .001 btc on a number. I then just keep repeating my bet and if I win buy getting the actual number I then have 36 free bets to play how I wish. I do Like this idea. I may try it on blackjack as well I usually just use 1,1,2,2,4,6,10 play it until you lose and go back to your 1 bet. I am about to go try it I will update you on how it works and my opinion of it!!!


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: crairezx20 on October 09, 2018, 03:30:09 PM
This strategy is not 100% sure win and I think your chances to win by using this strategy is small so if you do this method make sure that you know when to stop or just deposit a small amount that you can afford to lose.

There is no difference between this method and the martingale strategy they are both doing the same step. It depends on us if we are lucky or not we can win in roulette and if we follow this method the result will be the same as the martingale strategy.

However, you can still try to use this method but make sure after you win on the game just stop and don't be greedy because if you stay playing roulette and you are not contented to the amount you win then you can lose all of your funds and wasted your time.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: panjul07 on October 09, 2018, 04:24:09 PM
In my opinion, the strategy is needed because it will increase the chances of winning, only increasing the chances of not 100% winning. whatever types of gambling opportunities win and lose are as big as 50-50. Personally I believe that gambling is very dependent on luck.

To be honest I do not believe that there is a strategy to increase our winning chances, if such strategies exists in this world then there will be many people become rich from gambling. In my own opinion, the best strategy is to minimize losing instead of increasing winning chances because we all know that gambling is designed for casino's profit not for gambler's profit. So if we can minimize our losing chances then we wont lose to much on gambling, but if we think that we can increase winning chances then we will try to bet as much as possible because we think that our chances to win is increased. In fact, the chance of losing is still there and ready to make you lose all your money.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: kurian on October 09, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
I tried this strategy and it worked for sometime but in the long run it's same as every other strategies. If you manage to make some profit, it is always a good idea to stop playing and take the profit. Otherwise, you will end up busting entire balance including the profit you've made.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: onrise on November 20, 2018, 05:27:53 PM
I tried this strategy and it worked for sometime but in the long run it's same as every other strategies. If you manage to make some profit, it is always a good idea to stop playing and take the profit. Otherwise, you will end up busting entire balance including the profit you've made.

This is the basic funda where you should be smart enough to encash profit and move away rather than become so greedy that you end up losing the profits and also your own money and then regret later that you got carried away from seeing money and forgot that it is hard to win form gambling.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: hahay on November 21, 2018, 04:38:00 AM
I tried this strategy and it worked for sometime but in the long run it's same as every other strategies. If you manage to make some profit, it is always a good idea to stop playing and take the profit. Otherwise, you will end up busting entire balance including the profit you've made.
If so it can be said to be a factor of luck, I also have several strategies in each game but in fact nothing works well for a long time, at least the strategy can work well only at the beginning which is luck and strategy is only a way that we can do, but still luck is the one who can make sure we make a profit.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: maydna on November 21, 2018, 06:19:03 AM
I don't use any strategy on roulette game because I don't play that game now. In the past, sometimes I play roulette, but then I feel bored with the game, so I move to another game. But if you think that strategy will work properly for you, then you can try that strategy but remember always know how much money you will use. Besides that, we have different luck and perhaps, your luck will better than me so you can win the game and get the money.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: mOgliE on November 21, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
Hey that's... Actually not stupid. Of course it can't be a win win strategy because that doesn't exist on a casino but that's a nice evolution of the martingale. You increase your bet at a much slower pace that's really interesting.

Considering all the bonused of some sites like rakeback, jackpots and all, you might even be more or less even on the long term...


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: mallorcagold on November 22, 2018, 12:20:24 PM
Another one claiming to have a win-win strategy. But by this time everyone already knows that there are no win-win strategies in casino games. At the end the house always win.
Don't get me wrong you can win money with your 'strategy' if you have a winning streak and luck. But at the end you will end up loosing money.

There is no such thing as a working strategy for any casino games cause you always have the edge of the house. As simple as that.

The only ways you can be profitable from gambling is in games where you have a little bit of control like sports betting and poker. You still face the factor of luck but you are in control of how you play, which games,.…  And by using the right supportive software you can decrease the factor 'luck' a little bit more.


Title: Re: Win-win bets strategy in roulette
Post by: bitcoinisbest on November 23, 2018, 12:07:45 PM
I don't use any strategy on roulette game because I don't play that game now. In the past, sometimes I play roulette, but then I feel bored with the game, so I move to another game. But if you think that strategy will work properly for you, then you can try that strategy but remember always know how much money you will use. Besides that, we have different luck and perhaps, your luck will better than me so you can win the game and get the money.

Roulette as such does not require any strategy and it can actually be played by kids as well. It is so much luck based game as you can select black/red, > or < 18 etc. You can select anything and if you are lucky you win or you lose it that simple it is. Also remember house will always win in the end.