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Title: Margin Trading
Post by: deus030518 on August 31, 2018, 01:10:19 PM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: butka on August 31, 2018, 01:33:17 PM
I don't use margin trading because IMO it somewhat resembles gambling. That being said, I know that some non-margin traders use the signals collected from margin trading to short or long their positions on exchanges.

If you want to learn more about margin or leverage trading, here are some threads you might find useful:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4872003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4320063
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1819261

P.S. If you are a newbie, don't get into margin trading straight away. Start with "normal" day trading, or long term investments.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: 1Referee on August 31, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
In more general terms, marging trading is pretty much the same as trading with borrowed money. In most cases it's done to enhance gains, but it works both ways which means that it could just as easily result in deeper losses in case the market works against you. I don't recommend any newbie to play around with this, especially not when it comes to crypto as severely volatile asset class. In other words, don't do it.

Even regular trading is a losing practice for most people, especially with how the market has a bearish bias to it right now. Dollar cost averaging is the most noob friendly investment strategy there is. Newbies should stick to buying Bitcoin and keep it offline for a longer period of time. Focus on that. :)

Also avoid altcoins. It's just not worth it.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: chris200x9 on August 31, 2018, 01:44:50 PM
What type of trading are you most using?

I'm just buying coins which I'm interested and hold them until it reaches my target price. This is called an investing.

I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.

As a newbie better don't jump directly on to margin trading. You might have heard that you can make a lot of money from margin trading with less investment but you also can lose all your money even faster if your pick doesn't perform well. So you should first start with buying coins and hold them and monitor market how it moves because crypto market behaves quite differently from share market. In a day it can move up or down a lot.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on August 31, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
Margin trading is a gap between the price of a coin when we buy it and when we sell it. Margin Trading is very necessary because this will determine whether we will benefit or not. Simply stated, when we can get positive margin trading, we can make a profit and when the margin trading looks negative, we will get a loss. So oatut is very concerned because our goal of trading is to make a profit. Believe that such a thing is the basis when we will try to start Trading.

Besides that, Trading also requires knowledge and experience when we want to get success.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: gayan777 on August 31, 2018, 02:02:00 PM
Margin trading is a type of trading which is correlated with the lending market. It enables an investor to invest more on a trade than what he/she can afford. It is one of the riskiest types of trading, however the most profitable one that allows a trader to open a position with leverage.  A Margin Trader/Short Investor borrows cryptocurrencies either peer to peer or from the exchange.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: robertsu on September 02, 2018, 04:51:41 AM
Margin Trading is very important on the classical securities market. Volatility is often not so high. In the cryptocurrency volatility is huge, I don't see a  reason to take additional risks.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: diger on September 02, 2018, 04:55:35 AM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
This trading is similar to binary options .That is , let's say you bet that bitcoin will cost $ 8000 and he went to 7000 , it means that you lost everything you bet (if you went to 8 000 dollars you would have won ) This is a very risky trade but also super-profitable, if you do not know the market better do not touch margin trading


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: apityeh71 on September 02, 2018, 07:11:46 AM
Use Margin in crypto trading is not recommended for newbie because the level risk will be higher. Use margin in crypto similar betting or gambling so will be more difficult to get consistent profit from it. For the better dont use margin in crypto trading to avoid big loss.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: manggis97 on September 02, 2018, 08:37:32 AM
My experience in margin trading is bad because when first times i started i was loss $500 just by 2 times trade. Margin trading is really more risky than spot trading,  if you want to try it is more safe to use only 2% or maximum 5% of your money.  And will be better only use maximum 5 times leverage and not more because higher than that is mean you will not trade but do gambling.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: demonic098 on September 02, 2018, 09:57:50 AM
In margin trading you can still make profit even the price is going down by using short position. They also let you multiply your buying power through leverage but it has a liquidation which is quite bad. If you reached that liquidation price, your money will be gone unlike on regular trading where you can hodl the coin you bought.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: asdnguyenthanhtin on September 02, 2018, 10:23:53 AM
If you are newbie. My best advice to you is not to try the trade margin. For professional traders who have experience and discipline. They still lose more.
You can try with a small amount money. The first thing you learn when the trade margin is learning to control greed and discipline.
In a risky and manipulative market. A market where a good trader can not guess. A market shark manipulated. So the margin is gambling


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: jhonjhon on September 02, 2018, 11:15:07 AM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
It is the best to do normal trading as mostly all are practising it till now. Anyways, it's up to you mate,  but absolutely you may just lost all your assets if you push your self doing that.  Even experts never focus on margin trading as they are experiencing loses though.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: Bardman on September 02, 2018, 11:40:59 AM
In more general terms, marging trading is pretty much the same as trading with borrowed money. In most cases it's done to enhance gains, but it works both ways which means that it could just as easily result in deeper losses in case the market works against you. I don't recommend any newbie to play around with this, especially not when it comes to crypto as severely volatile asset class. In other words, don't do it.

Even regular trading is a losing practice for most people, especially with how the market has a bearish bias to it right now. Dollar cost averaging is the most noob friendly investment strategy there is. Newbies should stick to buying Bitcoin and keep it offline for a longer period of time. Focus on that. :)

Also avoid altcoins. It's just not worth it.

Well certainly you need to have a winning strategy before even considering leveraging. If you already are successful at trading then you can consider margin trading. It works reallly well when you have a really safe strategy, you must have very good entries becuase you cant really afford to be wrong too often.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: BitHodler on September 02, 2018, 01:22:48 PM
Some times I really wish that leverage trading wasn't so easily accessible as it is right now. I continuously see people complain about BitMEX that they got scammed, while in reality they only made a wrong call.

If you go with an insane leverage count and the market moves in the opposite direction, you'll lose your position in full on BitMEX, because that's how it works. It's pretty similar to gambling actually.

If people just firmly kept their Bitcoins offline without touching them, they would be a whole lot wealthier by now. People overestimate their trading skills and for that reason don't know that they are actually gambling.

What's the sole outcome of long term gambling? Right, it's the house that always wins.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: deus030518 on September 13, 2018, 05:11:41 AM
Thanks for all your reply to my thread it really help me alot. I think it is the hardest way to do trading, so I must not do that kind of trading and it is not advisable for some trader cause it is too risky to do the Margin trading. Am I right?


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: juperos on September 13, 2018, 05:15:59 AM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
Escrow trading is quite good but you need to determine long term investment. If you want to make a small amount of money, you should not trade margin. But I think you should invest individually and should not trade margin. it will help you more freedom in investing.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: forex on September 13, 2018, 05:20:12 AM
Margin trading is the type of tdadin which doesn't fit for newbies. I thin it's all that u shoud to know)))


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: wayaneka on September 25, 2018, 09:07:01 AM
As i know there are 2 type of trading, that is margin trading and spot trading, all asset like crypto, stocks, commodities and forex we can trade it by spot and margin trading. Spot trading will be have lower risk than margin trading although we can make profit only from up trend, and margin trading have higher risk because of high leverage. In margin trading more possible our balance going to zero from wrong prediction but in spot trading especially on stock and forex market is our balance not to be going to zero because this asset has low volatility.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: usekevin on September 25, 2018, 07:01:38 PM
If you had huge knowledge in trading,you can start a margin trading. Or else use to inverse for long-term.Hold it as much you can,when the price reaches maximum.You will get more profit from it.Day trading is the another option you had.Some of the initial trader will start from day trading.In day trading,you must be more active for huge profits.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: tenakha on September 25, 2018, 09:58:35 PM
Margin trading has a similarity with Forex. So, it is different from buying-selling, you should guess what direction the candles can go and you should start the process. The difference from the traditional trade, you can even gain from the price reduction. But, as this trade is risky, you're likely to lose all of your money. Also, margin trading swallows the small money immediately.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: marine4u on September 25, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
Margin Trading is not for new investors so it is important to consider investing in Margin as it is risky. Margin allows you to deposit up to 100 times or more to invest so when you lose you can quickly lose everything. There are many courses on Margin now, but be careful because it is not as easy as they say.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: karungbitcoin on September 26, 2018, 12:54:26 AM
Margin trading is good option to get profit consistent, because we can make profit from up trend and also downtrend, the risk we can minimize by use low leverage. We know already all crypto will bullish and bearish in the same year, last year is times for bullish and this year is times for bearish, so to get profit from bearish trend we should be trade on the platform margin trading, use low leverage is very important for beginner trading, or to be more safe we can use 1 times leverage that same like no leverage.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: leonix007 on September 26, 2018, 01:36:03 AM
Aside from risk which already stated by the members

It should also consider each margin trading platform features

One of the newbs confusion lies on the basic functions

It is recommended to use the test net tradings in order to familiarized yourself with those functions

here is one

https://testnet.bitmex.com/



Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: henlity87 on September 27, 2018, 11:19:00 AM
Margin trading is the type of tdadin which doesn't fit for newbies. I thin it's all that u shoud to know)))
A good point! Normally, for anyone who is just coming into the world of trading, I really do not expect them to always end up joining a marginal trading platform without some experience and great knowledge on how to trade.

Marginal trading is a lot risky than you can imagine, and it is always better to make sure that you do not end up in the wrong side of things when it comes to being liquidated, and this is something a lot of newbies tend not to understand, and then you see them getting liquidated faster on 100x leverage just because of their ignorance and not understanding what to even be doing in the first place.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: CryptoIyke on September 27, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
Learnt margin trading on bitmex is very risky as one can easily get liquidated if the risk is not properly managed, was in a whatsapp group where a lot of persons where complaining of how much they have lost and I never dared trying but I think huge learning is required to breakthrough in it


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: spiker777 on September 27, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Well margin trading is also heavily liable for market manipulation by somebody with big pockets, I've seen more than a few suspicious price swings on Bitfinex and Bitmex that indicate that somebody is forcibly closing out the short and long positions at will.

I would avoid margin trading until things stabilize or until these exchanges have control measures implemented, as you are at serious risk of getting caught up in a fake move.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: kenziefried on September 30, 2018, 06:50:29 PM
As i know there are 2 type of trading, that is margin trading and spot trading, all asset like crypto, stocks, commodities and forex we can trade it by spot and margin trading. Spot trading will be have lower risk than margin trading although we can make profit only from up trend, and margin trading have higher risk because of high leverage. In margin trading more possible our balance going to zero from wrong prediction but in spot trading especially on stock and forex market is our balance not to be going to zero because this asset has low volatility.
The thing with people is that because of their lack of knowledge, they just assume that every style of trading is what they can delve into, and they tend not to understand the risk involved in all forms of trading. Marginal trading is a whole lot risky than spot trading even though the potential to earn more if you are knowledgeable is there, but that knowledge is something any one should always be ready to seek first and at least do some little practice before even making an attempt, but instead, all they do is to just screw up their investment pretty fast.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: Xardasim on September 30, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
A very risky type of trade that helps you to trade bigger with small money (leverage). It has not relevance with '' just hodl '', it is very risky for beginners. In others, you just wait and the price of the coins in your wallet remains the same, even if the price is reduced. But, when you lose here, you lose the number of coins.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: ajiejot on October 01, 2018, 12:05:03 AM
Margin trading is also really risky because of this very choppy sideways, but in margin trading, you can also earn huge profits. But the risk is still there, you just need risk management and you should know how to control emotion on your every trades.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: enawati on October 01, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
Margin trading is mean we can increase the potential profit by use leverage, but the level of the risk also will be higher. Let say any asset going up by 2% and we use 10 times leverage so we will make 20%, but if the prediction wrong, we will loss 20% as well.  There 2 different margin trading, that is CFDs and future trading.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: HaradaTomoyo on October 01, 2018, 04:26:33 AM
my teacher said if i/m a beginner i don't want to choose margin trading because easy to loss money. but if learn enough you can get x2 money


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: TopT3ns on October 01, 2018, 04:51:53 AM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
Don't know what is margin trading to explain, but i think it is hard for newbie to do because if you not really analyze it, you can end with loss all your money when liquidate, my friend said it is hard to do ;D


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: klien_br on October 01, 2018, 05:23:41 AM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
I don't go for margin trading as I don't trust margin trading much.
But instead i do go for short term trading sometimes if i see a bad coin going into huge demand for short term.
Such coins gives huge profits even if they are not trusted because of the huge market cap.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: millensharon8 on October 01, 2018, 04:36:34 PM
my teacher said if i/m a beginner i don't want to choose margin trading because easy to loss money. but if learn enough you can get x2 money
You should be thankful you have a very good teacher bro. Marginal trading is not for newbies and usually I do not even advise anyone who is just starting their trading to go in with real funds in a spot market, let alone when it comes to marginal trading.

Marginal trading exposes you to more risk and as a newbie trader, who wants to gain experience and confidence in your strategy and how to play the market to your advantage, can quickly get frustrated with marginal trading if care is not taken. At least in a spot market you can hold, but in the marginal trading type, once you get liquidated, you are out!


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: javainn on October 01, 2018, 04:41:54 PM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
the trade that you do for beginners is actually simple, you only buy at low prices and sell at high prices. it's a thing that anyone can do, including beginners. so don't worry about your type of trading.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: Kevin77 on October 03, 2018, 12:34:07 PM
Margin trading is also really risky because of this very choppy sideways, but in margin trading, you can also earn huge profits. But the risk is still there, you just need risk management and you should know how to control emotion on your every trades.
The risk in trading is there already, but one thing with marginal trading is that you are always going to be exposed to even more risk than spot trading and that is what a lot of newbie traders may not even understand. In fact, marginal trading is a whole lot more complicated than spot trading which is the normal style of trading most traders always prefer.

The sure thing is that with marginal trading, you are definitely going to be making more if you are good and professional at what you do, but the truth is that if you are not careful, you can even find yourself flopping badly if care is not taken and the bad thing about it is that you can lose everything that you have.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: GirlBitcoin on October 03, 2018, 12:52:48 PM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
As far as I know, margin trading as the owner of the company will give you a percentage of the loan in the next trade. If you want to invest in Bitcoin 5k $, they can donate $ 2k to you to invest in it. It's a double-edged sword. You will pay interest for them.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: rhodelmabanal on October 03, 2018, 01:12:44 PM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.
As far as I know, margin trading as the owner of the company will give you a percentage of the loan in the next trade. If you want to invest in Bitcoin 5k $, they can donate $ 2k to you to invest in it. It's a double-edged sword. You will pay interest for them.

If that's the scenario of margin trading, it's a trusted deal as long as the market activity goes profitable but if not we need to wait and hold our investment for longer terms. With regards to double-edged sword the risk is always a part of every investments, so if you're worried about losing then probably trading isn't compatible for your financial sources.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: Osarman on October 04, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
A very risky type of trade that helps you to trade bigger with small money (leverage). It has not relevance with '' just hodl '', it is very risky for beginners. In others, you just wait and the price of the coins in your wallet remains the same, even if the price is reduced. But, when you lose here, you lose the number of coins.
Yeah, it is always more like you borrowing money to trade a position in the market and if you tend to borrow more, the faster you get liquidated of your own funds if things go awry and in this case I believe anyone should understand that it is a whole lot of risk to take when it comes to going the marginal way.

Of course a lot of people would argue that the chances of going long or shorting the market to make more money from trading is there, but usually, the more you can make when it comes to profit is also the way the risk can end up high and if you do not have the knowledge to always pull through, trading the marginal way would be a hard thing to do.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: metribitcoin on November 06, 2018, 04:22:55 AM
When i started learn about trading, i was make mistake by jump in to forex margin trading because i dont know the different level risk between trading. And after this loss, i keep learn to looking for more safe and less risk trading by doing trading on spot market, that is crypto trading on the exchange without margin and stock trading. Its beter avoid margin/ leverage trading if you still newbies in trading activity because little bit chance to earn profit from it because the risk is higher.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: Yatsan on November 06, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
Margin trading is a type of trading which is correlated with the lending market. It enables an investor to invest more on a trade than what he/she can afford. It is one of the riskiest types of trading, however the most profitable one that allows a trader to open a position with leverage.  A Margin Trader/Short Investor borrows cryptocurrencies either peer to peer or from the exchange.
Margin trading is very risky since the market is really uncertain margin risky may lead to such a great loss with a borrowed capital. It is profitable when the coin pumps but how about when it dumps? Margin trading is not advisable in short-term or day trade to small investor or beginners with a low capital value or none at all. However you get a luck for margin trading, you will need to pay back with interest so lets say you just earned 50% to 80% of the profit.


Title: Re: Margin Trading
Post by: OlgaFS on January 11, 2019, 09:40:55 AM
Hi I just want to know what is Margin Trading and how did it help you with your trading? What type of trading are you most using? I am so confuse on what trading type will I use to trade for newbie like me.

Hi!
I think, margin trade for a newbie - is real chance to lose all of the portfolios fastly.
At first, try to find levels of support and resistance. Learn, what the volume on the exchanges can show to you. Look for video materials, there must be more than enough.