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I have been keeping eyes on ethereum so far this week and I realize a strange dip in the value of ethereum. Well I don't think this will lead to the collapse of ethereum completely, however, I do think it will go down way more due to panic sales and most ICO's selling their tokens. Guys do you think all ECR20 tokens will follow ethereum in terms of further dip in prices?

They were created and supported by ERC20. Because creating them is quite easy and the cost is very low. That's a great option. ETH prices fell mainly due to the dumping of ICOs when they raised capital

Actually the market of crypto currency is showing so much volatility in this year. Most of the crypto currencies are going down day by day. We have seen some rise but again they are going down. In that case it is possible that all erc 20 tokens can be low. But the price will rise very soon and use this as an opportunity.

The market conditions are not getting better and everyday we can see dip in btc and eth prices. However, other coins which are ERC20 are not dependent on eth price. They are mostly linked to btc prices. If btc goes down then we will surely see more dip in erc 20 coin prices.

No, it's not true. I should remind you there was a lot of ERC20 asset that still defend its price caused by they have been creating a fully working product. that's the key to protect the investor's trust. I should remind you that it will have a correlation with the bitcoin price too. you can try to see the ethereum based icos which have created product.

Many are intended to become a unique blockchain so those should be fine at least.

When viewed based on the tokens I have, it is true, tokens continue to fall along with ethereum, which is currently decreasing, but in my opinion it depends on the use of each token or what the ICO is running like, so it seems like not all tokens will follow eth continuously down.

Indeed there was a dump that occurred to ethereum, but this was also caused by the fall of the market and almost all the coins fell. I think the collapse of ethereum will not have a big impact on tokens erc20.

Can you name a few of these projects? I can’t think of a single one actually that retained it’s price. I am mostly holding alts with real products (Hacken, Cobinhood, etc) but they have been slammed nonetheless.

What would you expect? Erc20 tokens or simply ETH is the main platform and they do use it and come to think if the main frame collapse then it isn't surprising for those projects to follow and as others said I cant see any token specially erc20 do able to retain its price inspite on such bearish market which do result on giving a very red negative prices but as we all know even how deep is the negative no one really knows if this would be the end or not.

After I analyzed and monitored myself I got the answer that the ECR20 token did not follow ethereum because of what, after I saw when eth went up another token was dropped and when eth dropped the other tokens which included the ECR20 actually went up.
all tokens have their own strength and have their own power how they maintain and release so there is no way for other tokens to follow ethereum.

indeed ethereum has experienced a very unnatural price decline but this does not make all ERC20 tokens experience a price drop like ethereum because many of ERC20 see the price of bitcoin is not ethereum

even though ethereum tokens are currently down or drastically reduced, that does not mean other tokens are dropped, but all tokens will follow decreases such as ETH

Actually it has been the trend that most erc 20 tokens follow suit with ethereum price dip but the rate which ethereum is dumping in the last few  week is quite higher than any other ethereum based tokens. I just hope the market recover soon.

The basic truth is that
Once Etherum dumps all other erc  20 tokens follow because t affects them massively

It causes altcoins to forcefully have a reduction in price value and assets too

But altcoins or erc20 tokens do fight back and we expect Etherum to do the same
Fight back
Survive the dump and become what we all want it to be

No, as long as the network is up and functioning I see no reason why other coins would fail.  Also with the technology becoming more and more mainstream if Ethereum becomes and issue many strong projects will jump off Ethereum onto their own blockchain. 

Only the technology is from Ethereum but it depends from the project. If the project is good, the token price will increase, if it's not good, the token price will decrease.

It depends on how much they rely on the ETH platform to make their transactions, there are many ec-20 tokens that are very tied to ETH and without a doubt their value will fall with ethereum, but there are also others that are worthwhile and work independently, those do not think they will affect much, although this bear market affects us all.

I honestly don't think so. I believe most erc20 tokens are just on the ethereum platform because of the ease of using the smart contracts. Many of them would follow for the time being, but when their main net is ready, they'll leave ethereum at some point.

Now this is the moment you will see the differences between shitcoins and tokens. On paper almost all erc20 will dip while some will just be a corrections others will even dip lower than their ICO prices The tokens which are useful to the Crypto community will bounds back after the dip but the shitcoins will die and give birth to new shitcoins and the cycle will continue.

That's should be happened co-incidently but its seems that ecr20 tokens follow ethereum. Some technical team used to manipilate these market price and that's why it's seems loke that.

It is not likely to affect the already established ones in the market, more likely to affect the new ones that just ended ICOs or just got listed

I think yes, many tokens are only listed with exchange platform that only offers ethereum trades. This will be the most common problem that will occur for those who only listed their token in dex platform and they are the one who will be affected the most.

I say no to this speculation because in as much as there are some that may likely dip with ethereum, there are also some that are very good and also have good team members and community and they will strive to keep the token alive for as long as the market will recover from the bear. If there is also a very good support for the ethereum and investors reduce the rate at which they panic sell I am sure it will recover gradually.

The price of ETH is really surprising and it is not known how the events will develop further, but I do not think that the other altcoins will follow the price of ETH, because the projects sell ETH in large numbers, which so significantly affects its price.

No, not all the erc20 tokens will be affected by the decrease in price of Ethereum. In fact, i have seen a couple of tokens that have even increased in price in the last period, despite the general downtrend of the market. I guess that it all depends on the quality of the project.

The market as a whole will follow eth and bitcoin, I don't think it will matter much if they're erc20 tokens or not though.

The ethereum falls, because many investors already prefer such a project as EOS. The founder and team of the Etherium must work very hard and improve its technology in order to restore its popularity.

actually it is not about a connection between ethereum and erc20 tokens. it is about current market situation. as bitcoin could not recover, all market is going down. ethereum falled so much, and erc20 tokens as well.

ECR-20 invented to support Ethereum so definitely it will support Ethereum. But as Ethereum is decentralize platform so it can happen in some exception all ECR20 tokens will not follow ethereum in terms of further dip in prices.

actually not all tokens follow eth. it is strange but when all is red, there are always some nice tokens that go green.

ERC20 tokens that are being dumped by the ICOs might face the same fate ase ETH but that is not because they are ERC20 compliant tokens rather the ICOs are to be blamed here. But, there are still silver lining like the market getting stable again or CBOE coming up with Ethereum future which can save the fate of all these coins.

As ı see these days because of dramatic drop of the eth some of erc20 tokens keep their prize at same level. I have already exchange some of my altcoins to ETH which is more favorable for me.

For erc20 tokens that tradeable with ethereum only, it can be such tokens will follow ethereum. But for erc20 tokens that have another pairs like with btc, ltc and so on, maybe such tokens won't follow ethereum.

It's hard to predict what will happen next, but some projects can, of course, go away, but more will remain, since the ERC20 is good for young projects.

https://bitcoinwarrior.net/2018/09/what-are-hdms-tokens-and-whats-all-the-hype/

That is the mistake users do when they see that price is falling down of a coin. When ETH’s price is falling down, users are getting and selling their coins. This ultimately is leading to price fall. So ECR20 should not go for this kind of activity.

 well some might follow ,especially those ones listed on decentralized exchanged where you can only trade them against Eth. AS the price of ETH is fluctuating its difficult to make profits from those tokens also. But for other tokens  that can be traded against other currencies,the fall in ETH price might not affect them .

Will all ERC20 token follow ethereum?

1. in great line and project developers have a good future especially their roadmap, I think developers should get out of the protocol/platform ethereum (mainnet/main-network)

2. for a price, I think to follow the trend on this obvious ethereum markets that exist now and a lot of Tokens based-on ethereum.

3. and from this we can see development a project at each token will look good in the side of price or the roadmap so I think investors/traders will be following

so far tried you can see Achain platform and some token of his base-on that network. may I say vexanium token from inside price isn’t bad too from Achain Platform.

so you can conclude your own guys  ;)

It's strange why people ask such questions, it's the protocol that is used on the ETH chain, how else then? Do you think that this will not happen? I just do not even know what you can add, because all I can say is yes.

That is very interesting, I was wondering if there is a correlation between ether price and token price, but it makes sense that they are independent.  Now they might overall reflect the market conditions, which at the moment don't appear to be very high.

Yes, all ERC20 tokens follow ethereum because there base is eth and whatever direction it moves, all ERC20 tokens follow that trend and it logically happens because when base currency drops those who follow it automatically drops.

It seems to me that ERC 20 tokens basically always follow the Ethereum when it grows or falls.

So far there hasn't been a significant movement in the price of ERC20 based tokens but ETH is dipping continuously which might be the matter of concern here. But, there are still room left ETH to recover again, if it does then I don't think ERC20 based tokens will face the similar consequences. Till then, keeping my fingers crossed since I own a lot of them.

I do not believe that all ERC-20 tokens will follow the price of ETH, most likely everything will depend on the market situation and the price of bitcoin.

And what can tokens help ETH? Is that giving more popularity around the platform. But on the other hand, they load the network because of what transactions do not pass as quickly as they could.

And where they will go to if they were created on the Etherium platform, for them the collapse of Etherium would mean the collapse of their coins!

99% of erc tokens will die along the way because most have teams with no talent nor even real desire to succeed once all the dev money is used up on alcohol smack and hookers with the odd lambo and penthouse thrown in

eth will survive and eventually find real use cases that get adopted

At the moment, the growth of most tokens depends more on bitcoin than from ETH. ETH very much depends on bitcoin. so I think that no - the price of tokens will not follow for ETH .if bitcoin starts its growth - then yes..

It is true that without Ethereum platform no ERC20 tokens can create, because Ethereum is the base currency for all ERC20 tokens, but i don't think that all ERC20 tokens follow Ethereum.
According to me the all coins & tokens and even Ethereum are also follow only Bitcoin footsteps, because when Bitcoin grows then all currencies grow, and if it is downwards then all currencies downwards and the latest market condition is its perfect example.
And Ethereum prices fells down due to the scam ICOs projects and also due to high selling pressure of companies, who raised their fund in the form of Ethereum, and now they are start to selling it for project funding.

I'm not saying all ERC20 Tokens will follow Ethereum in terms of price reductions, but so far almost all tokens have decreased in price as Ethereum's price drops.
But there are also ERC20 tokens that can survive like the LOC.

It's a gallop that this situation does not surprise me, since Bitcoin practically does not have any useful for crypto-currency development. While the etherium must be a leader, with its real importance in the crypto-currency world. But it's not at all what it seems.

Erc-20 tokens has been following ethereum for all history of crypto. So why do you think things will be changed? Ethereum is about to reverse and rokens based on ethereum will follow its movent

I guess not. these are separate coins that exist separately from Ethereum and do not depend on its value. if there was such a tight connection, then most likely all tokens would have disappeared from the market irrevocably long ago. we wouldn't be able to get them anymore.

of course not. I don't think it's much of a connection. most likely, the growth or fall of tokens is associated with the state of the ICO and the number of people interested in it. while everything is more or less normal, it is difficult to understand how the market will work in the future

They do follow the price of ethereum because they are built on the platform, it is only normal that the price of the coin is following the price of ethereum.. The dip is not going to go past where it has already gotten to in my opinion since it seems to have made itself comfortable at the present price so we should be expecting better prices from the coin

when eth dip in price then the price of erc20 tokens rise up in ETH.. real price in crypto is not in $ it is crypto or eth. dip in eth is good for alts.. sell less alts to get more ETH ;D ;D ;D

I think that the ethereum will grow by the end of 2018.

I think they would. All tokens in the ethereum network are traded against eth and the downfall of eth is somehow proportionally equal to the downfall of the tokens, here's an example
Token 1 conducted an ICO last January with the price of $1 equal to 0.001 ETH. ICO would end in December.
In December 0.001 ETH only costs $0.3 (Hypothetically), now if that token would be listed in the same month (December), buy/sell orders have a chance of starting @$0.3, but everybody could buy or sell in their will but it's the initial price from the ICO so it would start that way also.

That is how the value of an asset traded against an asset works. One declines, one would follow.

This particular dip with etherium based tokens following the drop in etherium value is one of the reasons people are looking away from etherium based ICO's. So far interests have moved to ICO's that are ready to launch their own blockchain and most I have noticed some ICO's that are yet to launch or start trading have started swapping their etherium based tokens to their own blockchain

ERC20 tokens works on etherium blockchain but they price completely dont follow eth price.
They can at any moment do swap to ether chain if something happen with eth network

You see, this is one reason why it is not good to be thinking for the future in a market, when the future is still very far. We are approaching towards the end of the year, and nothing has happened yet. However, I am not saying nothing will happen, considering it is a volatile market, and we can see some surprising price action in the market, but it is all the same thing, we just have to blend with the trend in most cases but for now, I would not be expecting something so much.

most ICO tokens are juxtaposed with Bitcoin and Ethereum in trading on the market, usually erc20 tokens follow ethereum prices if the price of ethereum falls will fall, but not all of them are there token that can maintain its existence because their team has real products and cooperates with various large companies .

Of course, project tokens will also follow the submission of ETH. Because most projects collect ETH as an investment. And what will happen if these investments fell 3 times. Of course, the price of the coins that were created on the platform will be much lower. Or project payments will be cut back.

The statement is slightly incorrect as the Ethereum follows bitcoin, and therefore, the whole market looks at the flagship cryptocurrency market.

At the right moment, everything depends on Bitcoins and every altcoin is following its price. But I think that Ethereum price also effects the price of all ERC-20 altcoins, because they are based on Ethereums blockchain.

I think not, of course some will follow the ether, but for others it will be possible to become its replacement in some way. Stable Coins have already shown themselves well as a means of storing assets during periods of instability, it remains only to find a more stable coin for investment that can replace the Ethereum platform for ICO.

Some of the pros you have mentioned is based on the fact they are not being used pretty well, and also you have to understand that when it comes to faster transaction, that is totally based on the ethereum network and either it is congested or not, since all ERC20 tokens do not have their own blockchain and they are based on the ethereum blockchain which is why they are referred to as tokens. With regards to ERC20 following ethereum, one thing for sure is that the whole market follows each other in the same direction and money moves out or move in the same time at the least. So far, we can see that from bitcoin to ethereum, to the erc20 tokens, to other coins with their own blockchain, the whole market is bloody.

Today, there are a lot of projects, tokens follow the standards of the Ethereum ERC20, and it is very convenient and pleasant that one wallet can fit,thousands of tokens, it is certainly convenient, so I can say that it is really a very good idea to use ERC20 in the future

Nooone can tell if once ETH fell some ERC-20 will follow.
Most of the tokens are listed in merket with ALTS/BTC.
So it is more to follow BTC as THE USD VALUE depends on the BTC value in the market.

I don’t think ERC20 tokens follow ETH price rise or dip. Instead, I feel that most of the coins and ERC20 tokens follow Bitcoin price.

PS: I noticed that ETH price seems to be oversold as well. Not sure whether there is any accumulation going on though.

As we can see, the eth fall is not really affecting most of the erc20 tokens, because in as much as they are in ethereum, their market prices are been determines by the market buying and selling forces.

If we are to by ethereum serving as the base currency on which alts thrive, then you can assume they'll follow ethereum but if talking in terms of value they wont go hand in hand.

NO, Even at the bear season there will always a black sheep who will ignore it.
Same goes on bull run but still, there will be tokens in eRC-20 who will fall its price.
It will depend on the market how people will give the demand on the price.

Many projects were released on the Ethereum platform and perhaps its fall will affect the price of their coins. But on the other hand, if the projects continue to work and improve, it will not allow their coin to fall very low.

I don't agree with you. Many successful projects which using ERC-20 have their own prices. It depends on their products rather than blockchain on which they are based. Also I think thta ethereum will start growing in January after Constantinople.

Well we all know the most of coin in  crypto market is relying in ethereum  because its altcoin so maybe theres possibility that  when ethereum goes down some coin will be followed.

There are god number of coins that are not following the trend of ethereum. You can check the likes of XYO, BNK and others. They are all growing, irrespective of the price of ethereum. So that a token uses the platform of ethereum, does not mean it will fall when eth falls or that it will rise when it rises.

I don't think so. ERC-20 is the platform of Ethereum but it doesn't have a bearing on how the price goes for those who were using the same platform. However, there are times that if ETC and Bitcoin goes down, other alts will go with it as they are dependent on the price of those two. If you don't understand, how about looking at the foreign currency exchange as an example. One thing goes down and others will go with it.

the price of new tokens depends on the progress of the projects standing behind these coins but not on the price of ethereum.

The sharp drop in the price of Ethereum is precisely caused by the panic sale of tokens, which were released on the basis of the ETH blockchain. I think the fall will continue until there is good and positive news.

Not all ERC-20 tokens follows Ethereum but most of them. Dome coins has own way and they have a really good technology or something another what give the power for them and they have a good and stabil price.

Shitcoins will follow because their success is product of eth success. Good tokens are safe, they only need stable network to run on it, but price is about project that tokens represent.
If they stop preferring eth network, they create their own network and do token swap. It happens everyday!

Yes, majority of the coins are following the market leader BTC. When ETH drops in price ERC 20 tokens are following
and usually dropping even further. This is a small market and the correlation is high between the coins.

All ERC 20 token are supported by Ethereum, the founder of ERC 20 is Vitalik and maybe users of the smart contract isn't responsible enough to handle projects that causes ethereum to fall down too much.

Of course, as information at this time there are hundreds of ERC-20 based tokens, and this makes ethereum use continue to increase so that it can rise up to thousands of percent in 2017, but unfortunately today the price of ethereum drops and does not exceed $ 100, so all tokens also drop.

In instance, mostly it follows the footsteps of Ethereum coin because they are also supported by ERC20 wallet. So it cannot hide it can affect the whole value of coins in the market but this will gradually bounce back in a future.

Not sure about it. Though, most of the cryptocurrency nowadays will always be following the bitcoin trends nowadays. I'm not sure if erc20 tokens will follow bitcoin or ethereum. :'/

Even though there are many ERC-20 tokens that are pegged to ETH asset fluctuations are still primarily based on BTC more than anything else

Most tokenized assets losing significant value is generally due to a lack of innovation, adoption or liquidity

Absolutely yes all of erc20 token will follow how ethereum price, when eth is dump maybe all of the erc20 token will be dump, we hope ethereum will hae top price at the next time and we can take profit will all of erc20 token.

you are right, I agree with what you say. it seems that the ethereum fall will last longer than the experts predicted, because there are still many ethereum users who panic.

I hope that next year there will be very good news that makes ethereum pump up high.

all tokens that use the etherum platform will follow the footsteps of Ether. the exchange price in the market will remain lower for tokens using the platform because Etherum is down in price. we need to understand that, even though the price of etherum is currently falling, the etherum will not collapse.

Of course, there is a definite connection between the fall in the price of ethereum and the ERC20 tokens, however insignificant. Price dominates in the bitcoin cryptocurrency market, the price of tokens depends on its price values. However, which of them even in this difficult time have fallen in price slightly or despite a general decline even show a slight increase. Therefore, the perspective of the project itself is of great importance in the price of tokens. Influencing factors on the price of tokens and ethereum are too many to argue unequivocally.

Ethereum is a die-hard fan of Bitcoin. So obviously, those tokens created under the Ethereum blockchain will also fall.
Erc20 will always follow Ethereum.  :(

The price of ERC20 tokens are always somehow dependent on the price of the ether. Perhaps the level of capitalization on ether affects other tokens, although this should not be

wrong
most of them are useless and have no reason to grow even if ether will moon again
however, some of them are decent enough to rise even when ethereum falls or doesn't move at all

ERC-20 tokens do not depend on the price of ETH but Bitcoin. And I think all altcoin, not just the ERC-20 tokens, because Bitcoin is what people expect it to be, so that it can pull the whole market up.

I don't understand why some people talk about an 'ethereum collapse' when the real problem is the bitcoin value. Are u joking or what?

All tokens created on the basis of ETH, very strongly depend on the price of Ethereum and the lower the ETH costs, the lower the tokens are.

I think not, though they are tied to Ethereum, but still if the project is good, then it will not fall in price, except that only because of the General decline in the cryptocurrency market. For example, XYO and ONL tokens.

Basically, all ERC20 tokens follow ETH. If ETH loses value, then tokens also become cheaper, but if ETH grows, then tokens become more expensive. But there are also tokens that can go their own way. This mainly occurs when tokens are in demand, that is, they are bought very actively or their pampyas are artificial. There are those tokens that will not be affected by anything, since their ico turned out to be a scam.

Moreover, the collapse of Ethereum speak mostly beginners. Apparently they managed to buy this coin at the maximum prices.
Ethereum will recover in price after launching Casper to work.

some of all yes they will follow ethereum price but not all, right? for example LYFE token, this project succeeded at the ico with $0.0005/lyfe
However, I think ethereum price is very hard to $500. I have some fundamental for ethereum and I'm not a holder ethereum but I love ethereum blockchain :)

It will surely follow especially to the ico that is still not listed on the exchange, they would sell their tokens in the dex exchange like etherdelta to get away while they still can and even compensate for their loss.

I don't think tokens follow the price of Ethereum. In my opinion, the only cryptocurrency behind which all altcoins move is Bitcoin. For a long time of observation of the market, I noticed that the price of all cryptocurrencies is interconnected, except for cases when the hard fork is planned or there is the next event according to the road map.

Of course, the prices of all EPC-20 tokens will follow the price of ethereum, because they are tied to it, which means that the lower the cost of Ethereum the lower the cost of all the others. Whatever good project ethereum is, this binding complicates pricing in the crypto market.

I think that the fall in the price of ethereum as well as the fall in prices of all the other altcoins on the market is complete - the one who managed to buy the ethereum at $ 80 - you can say this is a person - is very lucky. The rest people remains to wish - you should buy Ethereum right now.

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A lot of ERC-20 tokens depend on Ethereum and I think when the next hardfork is going to happen, all the tokens that are based on Ethereums blockchain will follow the price increase. Moreover, the major blockchain update is also coming soon!

no cause ethereum is a platform that been used as a source of fund for the icos

that is certain as long as the currency pair itself is ethereum but if the project attracts a lot of people's interest in investing even though ethereum experiences a price shock I think the situation can reverse

The correlation between the coins is high in crypto as is it a small market and all the alts are following the market leaders. So, ERC-20 tokens will follow BTC and ETH movements. Some of them will drop even deeper.

An interesting assumption ... Why do you think that after Ethereum hard forks, the price of tokens on the ERC-20 platform will increase? Personally, I think that the price of the majority of coins on the market and ETH itself depends on the price and position of Bitcoin, but it can be assumed that Constantinopol will still contribute to the growth of the price of ETH.

I think all the tokens based on ETH might follow the route of ETH. No exceptions as far as I see.

There are too much sh*tcoins on ERC-2 Ethereum platform. I don't think that they deserve follow it's price. But other coins will follow it, I am sure about it.

ERC-20 tokens are completely independent of the Ethereum price. If the token is good enoguh it will rise, if it is another sh*tcoin then it will go down to zero.
But we can see that price of the cryptocurrencies rise when Bitcoin rise because Bitcoin indicates the trend.

This is not entirely true, but almost all altcoin currently develops the ecr20 platform. The Ethereum platform offers excellent work when you can easily use available resources to create your tokens without spending too much. Do you want to spend a large sum of money and time to develop a platform of your own?

I think yes. Mostly all ERC-20 tokens follow Ethereum movements. But it doesn't matter if Ethereum lost 15%, for example ZIL will lose the same. THe falling can be smaller in times, like 4-5%.

ERC-20 tokens have positive correlation with price of BTC and ETH. Whenever ETH goes upside or downside other tokens also follow it and marketcap is illusion considering the facts.

No, I don't think so. I have good tokens whose price does not fall due to the fall of Ethereum price, for example XYO and ONL. But of course most tokens will be cheaper if Ethereum will fall in price.

Unfortunately, not all projects could develop to the level of which you speak, even having a finished product. A large part of them just squandered their potential, and all the money. Look at the volume of medium exchanges of similar projects.

That's the only aspect I noticed about those altcoins, only few of them makes it up when etherum is down you will find most of the keep going down following the trend. For a project which promises much more than etherum did need to adjust itself and grow on it own.

precisely, no matter what platform the coin is used for, actually the price also affects the pair they use, if BTC / ETH, of course it will be very influential when the primary coin goes down, but if it only has a pair with USDT of course it will very stable. How potential project can no longer guarantee prices to going up.

I don't think all will follow Ethereum but most will, if one look at projects like DigixDao, DaiMaker and Augur all these projects have potential to surpass Ethereum in marketcap. The issue with Ethereum is that majority of the ERC20 tokens are shitcoins and have no real use case and will likely all lose their value in future and won't growth with the growth on Ethereum platform

ERC20 tokens follow Ethereum and there is a strong correlation between them. When the market is bullish they could
incrase even faster than ETH but they also dumps faster when ETH price crashes.