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Crypto manipulation of the market is legal which is the big risk on this industry because it is a decentralized system not like the stock exchange. No one control the crypto market that is why any company, individual with wealth that can invest huge amount or group of people can possibly manipulate to inflate and diflate the price of market at anytime.

Not like in stocks exchange as according to Investopedia.com. "Manipulation is the act of artificially inflating or deflating the price of a security or otherwise influencing the behavior of the market for personal gain. Manipulation is illegal in most cases, but it can be difficult for regulators and other authorities to detect."

What is your opinion about this matter? Is there a way to control these manipulators?

Brother it is all manipulated.  Stocks, forex, crytpo, gold.... The list goes on and on.  You probably have never witnessed a real functioning and un-manipulated market in your entire life. If they manipulate it down they will manipulate it up eventually when the shorts take it too far. 

The manipulators have been manipulating the market for money. By fool other through manipulating the market and you can take a lot of opportunity and advantage from the market. They used their own brain to manipulate the market. Anything can be manipulated and OP must understand if that can't be controlled even through the regulation process.

if there is an opportunity to cut hamsters and from this to weld even more capital, would you not have done so? in the world for a long time there are almost no decent people left and everything is done for profit

While most bitcoins will be concentrated on 100 wallets so far and we will see such manipulations of the entire cryptocurrency market. Nobody can regulate the whales' desire to sell their bitcoins. On the other hand, we would not receive such volotility and earning opportunities.

don't fool yourself, nothing about manipulation and pump and dumps is legal and it never is going to be legal. in fact manipulation is one of the most illegal things that you can find around here because literary all around the world they consider it as illegal and they can prosecute you if they catch you doing it.

the fact that the market is unregulated makes it harder to catch the manipulators and pump and dumpers. that is why pump and dumps happen purely in altcoins since altcoin exchanges where pumps occur don't require KYC.

Economically powerful people earn money by controlling money. there is not much way to prevent it. it is very difficult to do, especially in the crypto money world.

I do not think manipulation is legal
It is a dirty activity by group of individuals which makes it illegal

Atime will come very soon
When even the greatest manipulators and legal frauds won’t be able to manipulate the market anymore

Manipulation is illegal in most cases but in crypto, because of a decentralized environment, manipulators had freely done their business in manipulating the pump and dump crypto price, even we don't like it but they the best weapon to manipulate all things which are money and that is a reality.

I think you are misusing the term legal here. Manipulation is "legal" only as far as the whole market is not regulated and not downright illegal. In other words, it is mostly in a gray area of sorts, where the notions of legality are not fully applicable as such. Here, everything is kind of legal which is not declared as outright illegal by whoever has control over the market.

Besides, manipulation is prospering and thriving even on regulated markets as gray areas exist there too. And sometimes, even the biggest exchanges like CME get caught with shady practices like front-running the orders of their clients, insiders trading, cornering, and doing a lot of other things most of us have never heard of.

Crypto market is relatively a small one and young one, which means that there can be a lot of opportunities
to make money. It also means that the market is susceptible to manipulation when compared to traditional
markets. Pumps and dumps, sell walls and dark pools are the most common ways for market manipulation.

Let it be free.  The other option is regulations.  I for one don't wan't that.  If the market is manipulated then play the manipulation instead of asking for protection.  Hell a manipulated market may actually be even easier to play.  I think we all just need to man up and stop looking for others to protect us. 

Look, I understand that you are worried about the manipulation going on in this market and I think it's natural but at the same time it is something that you need to accept, what are you going to do? The only thing that you can do is to get out of the market but if you are going to get out of the market of cryptocurrencies because there is manipulation then you will need to get out of all the markets around the world.

Just to give you an example in my country it is very common that politicians buy a lot of land before a big project begins to be constructed, since they have contacts they know where the construction is going to take place so they can buy for a very cheap price and then they resell the land just a few months later for 10 times the price.

Regulations may serve different purposes. They can make matters considerably worse or they may alleviate them significantly. It all depends. With that said, you may be able to take advantage of these manipulations if you are lucky enough or they can take advantage of you if you are not. But ultimately, in the long haul, this is not very good for the markets because people will stay away from so rigged markets. No one wants to lose his money, and even more so when someone else steals it from them as this is what happens when the market is manipulated in one way or the other. As they say, once bitten twice shy.

This is one of the weaknesses of crypto currency because it can be manipulated. Small people will depend on whales without being able to do anything. They must hold and wait for whales to pump up prices so they can sell coins at the right price.

This simply guides you on what is happening. In order words, you have answered your question by your self. Crypto is not regulated so anybody can invest or withdraw their fund without restriction and that is why we have the fluctuation majorly in cryptocurrency.

Government regulates fiat currency through banks so that there are different types of accounts that can be opened depending on their purposes, like current or savings accounts etc and how much that can be transferred into them or withdrawn, those are regulations.

the only purpose of market manipulation is to benefit the greedy person. That is how they lure small traders to take part in their flow. I have never heard if manipulation is legal, it is nonsense. At first I thought that crypto market would be free from manipulation, but my guess was wrong. Because apparently there are also people who try to manipulate the crypto market.

99% of every profit made on crypto are due to manipulation.
If we were not to manipulate, the price of almost every coins need to be fixed and unchangeable while some of the tokens pegged to profit of a project need to increase with the amount of profit made by the company, in reality such is not even 1%.

I don't think there is a way these manipulators can be checked. Unlike a regulated money or capital market where anybody that involves himself in this kind of malpractice can be sanctioned by SEC, nothing like that in cryptocurrency this is one of the reasons why a little bit of regulation in the crypto space won't hurt the genuine partakers of crypto.

Of course it is very different from other stock markets or that involve investment, because other stock markets are very legitimate in the eyes of the government so they get protection to be cleaner than actions that can harm many people such as manipulation, in the crypto market such things are very free to explore without laws and government attention to further clean up market manipulation, if that can make a lot of people lose, illegal manipulation in this market.

Most of the bitcoin concentrated on more than 90 wallet till now we saw this manipulation of their entire market. No one can control the whales wish to sell their bitcoins. On the other hand we would not take delivery of such volatility and earn opportunities.

"Manipulators working to achieve their goal from the beginning. Many investors have fallen victim to them. I believe no rule and regulation can do something regarding this issue. Though it’s not legal either.
No matter how many law you there will be this kind of group with the intention of achieving own goal.
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Controllers working to realize their objective from the starting. Numerous financial specialists have fallen casualty to them. I accept no run the show and control can do something with respect to this issue. In spite of the fact that it’s not lawful either. No matter how numerous law you there will be this kind of bunch with the deliberate of accomplishing possess goal.

It really is, this is why it is very important that we start having some kind of regulation on the market, people can manipulate the coins to their favor, screwing over other people in the process and not even committing a crime. Once there are regulations and rules in this market then we would have less instances of people manipulating the coins

That's why many rules and laws were done to ensure markets security, like having KYC and registering of their business. Manipulation by team or group of members and investors can ruins ones project.

The concept is not right actually. Manipulation is illegal all over the world and this market does not encourage manipulation. The fact is that the market is deregulated and some crook persons are using this as opportunity to manipulate and they remain unidentified due to decentralization system.

I think it is very naive to think that manipulation does not exist in the stock markets or in any other market that has been around for very long, the only problem is that in order to manipulate those markets you need to be a huge whale that moves with other huge whales to try to manipulate the market, you need to think this from their perspective, if you were that big and that powerful do you think they are going to be stopped by just a piece of paper? Do you think they are going to forfeit obtaining such great profits just because of the law? Those people have enough money to bribe anyone that they need to bribe in order to get away with their manipulation and most likely that is precisely what they are doing.

Friends are not who can not control the manipulation, except for those whales who manipulate the market. We cannot influence this. And even if there is a law that will control manipulation, every law still has holes to obey it.

The very distinct characteristics of cryptocurrency, which is being decentralized, is going to be one of its biggest challenges to be overcome. There is a lot of people with negative intentions who are taking advantage of this decentralization. I believe that the market is not free from manipulators. Especially now, manipulators probably gain more coins in their wallets. This is the one thing that in the future must be resolved.

we often hear the crypto market manipulation and a pump community in the telegram has done this, they create fluctuating ripples to then take the next action which is certainly to get more profit. actions are not good but crypto is decentralized and it is legitimate, there is no specific way to stop them but if we agree not to follow the direction of the game they are making then the manipulation fails

However, the law stopped the manipulation of the stock market. Do you think law helps there?
I am sure that if we introduce legislative regulation on the crypto market, this will significantly reduce the number of price manipulations of the crypto market.

I do not agree, because if you do it together (group) anyone can manipulate the market. I mean, even though it only has a small impact but if done simultaneously this will be very strong. While to prevent manipulation the only way is set limit the purchase of cryptocurrency. But this is very impossible, considering crypto is decentralized not centralized.

Yes, those who have large funds will certainly be able to influence the market on a large scale. The small players will surely be carried away if they cannot survive. The big players definitely want to get a big chance, so don't let us get carried away, do good analysis and prepare properly.

I think the absence of regulatory structures in the crypto market constitutes a distinctive feature from ordinary exchanges and creates a volatility through which we can earn amounts that are unthinkable in forex.

The manipulation of the cryptocurrency market does not stop. We will not affect it in any way. Who has large amounts of cryptocurrency, and he can somehow manipulate the market: then reduce, then raise prices. As the manipulator is profitable, so it will do.

Since the price of cryptocurrencies depends on purchasing power, crypto is easily affected by price manipulation, which is something we cannot change and solve.

I don’t think manipulating the market is legal, there are some cases that the culprits got caught in real life. But, I don’t think it is possible to arrest them all. Especially in crypto market, there aren’t clear rules yet.