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Welcome to my Auction of 8x Satori Coins.
These are PreFork Coins, founded and unused.




The Auction is over, thank you for your interest.


The Serialnumbers:

22718#
22719#
22721#
22724#
22731#
22736#
22739#
22741#





https://i.imgur.com/i1L2QiK.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/MQNU9j9.jpg



Pictures UPDATED with Username+Date(10.9.2018)

UPDATE: Please verify with posting Theardlink where you bought items for jr.members and Newbes only, thank you.





After Auction for safe payment and delivery i use Bitify Escrow Service (https://bitify.com/) or Escrow Service from this Forums (with good Reputation)



Starting bid: .0.04BTC
Bid increments: .001BTC
End time: Saturday 15/9/2018 at 6:00 PM MEZ (https://www.zeitzonen.de/deutschland.html)
Sniping: Any bids within the last 30 minutes will cause the auction end time to be extended by 30 minutes, until there are no more bids.
Shipping:Free international insured shipping

Quoting for images


Since you are a newbie, you need to upload the images along with a piece of paper with your user name and today's date written in it. Use imgur for uploading the images next time so that it would be easier to use the image in forum.
Good luck with the auction

Thank you for the Informations now i updated the Pictures with Name+Date, but it dosent display like your Post.

Would you consider using one of the escrows right here on the forum?

Yes, but how does it work?

Didn't know that the Bitcoin Forum has an Escrow Service?

Can you explain me how the transaction work?

There is a couple of reputable members willing to hold the funds for the time of the shipping.
Once the transaction has been setup, the buyer sends the BTC to the escrow, so seller knows the funds have been secured.
Then the seller ships the goods, and when buyer confirms everything is right, the escrow releases the BTC to seller. :)

You'll find more info and a trusted escrow list in this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.0

Thank you for the Information,

I accept this Payment Escrow Service on the Forums, if the buyer wish.

Collectibles are in bear market as well. Bid increments maybe a little high if you want auction and not a sale post.

You ship from Germany?

0.04BTC

Thank you for the information

I Updated Bid incrementsto 0.001BTC

Shipping comes from Switzerland-->free worldwide insured shipping

Are shipments from Switzerland tax free to EU?

I will send as Present, with lower value that you not need to pay a lot.

You need pay Taxes from Switzerland to Europe.

Are we bidding on one of them, or all of them?

All of them will be sold trough this Auction

Newbies post won't display images mate. Anyways I have quoted your images. If you rise up to Jr Member your post displays images.

It's easier, the winner of the auction contacts minerjones/any trusted escrow and pays him the bid amount. You need to ship the product to the winner. Once he receives, minerjones releases your payment. Though I haven't used him, he is one of the most trusted escrow in the forum.

Thank you for this Informations :)

0.04BTC current top bid JanEmil

0.05BTC

Can someone clarify (not that it is imminently important), due to the serial numbers of these coins does that mean they do not have Bitcoin Gold? I read somewhere that it was like serials 30000-50000 that have BTG.
None of them have any imperfections, do they? (wrinkled stickers, scratches, etc.)

I'll bid 0.051BTC and we'll be using Minerjones or another reputable escrow if I win. I'm not supposed to be buying anymore collectibles, but maybe I can make an exception.

Anything higher than serial 30500 doesn't have BCH and is considered "postfork".
I don't know for sure for the rest of the forks but I think prefork have Bitcoin gold / Bitcoin Diamond / etc etc ...

It looks like all of these coins were funded by the same transaction, and all only have that single transaction in their history. Yet, some of the coins have Super Bitcoin, and some of them do not. Can you help me understand why that might be?

Specifically :

022736
1Q6sxgAvsKM4xFXqSogpRB5KaA4Rk5HxrB

022721
19PybHNfvXG2muju7eMs5a5XnJQ3eaBQKL

Are missing Super Bitcoin and I can't figure it out.

Must've just been an API hang-up or something. Was showing it wrong, but now it's there.. It was showing the amount of Super Bitcoin as 0, not the $ amount, but the amount of Super Bitcoin. I appreciate all the info though krogo, it's been very helpful.

The value is about $6 for one super BTC

The amount is so small it does not show in $..it would  be $0.00628..the site does not show past the 1 cent range.

Its less than one cent. But there is 0.001 SuperBTC as you can see.

Top Bid 0.051BTC from Bill Gator with Minerjones as Escrow

The Coins are in a very good condition and have no wrinkled stickers.

0.052BTC

Is this bid considered valid ?
Given the rank of the bidder, this bid should be secured to be considered valid.
Or maybe OP, do you agree to sell to 2nd highest bid in case this one isn't honored ?

Why wouldn't it be?  At one point everyone starts off as a newbie.  My ebay search for Satori coins brought me here.  If we need more rigor around valid bids and users, then posting messages on a forum for a timed, online auction is probably not the most secure method.  There's still over a day left for anyone to post a higher bid.  So, rather than questioning if someone else's bid is valid, feel free to post your own bid if you're interested. 

You know why it wouldn't be. You are acting as though there is no reason for anybody to hold any skepticism about your bid. We have been hurt in the past and you hopefully can understand where we are coming from when newbies regularly screw up auctions and raffles for everyone else.

It would be extraordinarily helpful if you were able to provide a signed message that includes your bid, username and date from an address that holds at least your bid amount for verification. This would ease everybody up a bit, I'm sure. We welcome newbies, but certain users prohibit them from participating in their sales threads, because they regularly come with more headaches than they are worth. Not saying this is the case, but if you are serious about your bid there are ways to prove it.

The Account from Coincrag is registered
on March 09, 2018, 10:23:29 PM.

Reminds me of a certain Cascoinking ...  ::)
That was a malicious user who bid on his own auctions with alt account to drive the item price up, and seller didn't sell to 2nd highest bid.

I'm not saying this is what you do, but that bid from an account with only 3 posts is questionable.
Since it outbids bill gator, I asked, what are you going to do about that ? Are you going to accept the 2nd highest bid in case this user doesn't reply ?
What will you do to prevent this kind of abuse ?

We trust you, the seller, since there is an escrow involved. All the rest is questionable.
I'm not accusing you of anything, just trying to figure out how this will end.

UPDATE: Coingrag got banned from this Auction.

Every future bid need to be done from Member ranked Users and up.
Newbies and jr. Members Users Bids will be not accepted.

Current Top Bid 0.051BTC from bill gator

Banning all new members from bidding isn’t the most fair of practices. You should allow lower ranked members to bid so long as they prove that they have said funds in an address by signing a message and verifying the legitimacy of their bid. I think that’s the fairest approach. Just my 2 cents.

I agree we were all newbies and juniors at some point.  To each their own, but i dont have an issue with newer members bidding on my stuff so long as they verify they are legit.  Or put a stipulation in that they have to send a fractional amount in to an escrow that is non refundable if they bail on the auction if they win it.

Sorry the Rules for this Auction is set and will not change

Its your auction and i understand was just throwing you some ideas for the future, cheers.

Current Top Bid 0.051BTC  from bill gator

Hello.

My bid is 0.0515BTC

Regards.
Antuam

Hello this bid is not valid, min. Bid incresement is
0.001BTC

current top bid 0.051BTC from bill gator

I am a bit confused as to what happened between quote 1 and quote 2. As far as I can tell, this user has done nothing wrong and without explanation this seems like you're just changing the rules on the fly. Besides that, you say that all future bids must be from Members and higher ranks, but that would not disqualify past bids (specifically, Coingrag's top bid). That user won the mystery box from Minerjones as well, so it seems like they're just around for some honest auction participation (unless there's something I don't see/know).

Why were they banned from this auction?


You say this, but have clearly just changed a rule, and this was said only a few hours after you had changed the rules, so again I am left confused.

top bid 0.051BTC from bill gator

Just dont mix every post that i made, relax i will not discuss this
with you.

Sorry.

0,052BTC

Regards.
Antuam

Current Top Bid 0.052BTC from Antuam

Hey I just caught up on the thread- I see I was banned, unfortunately  :-[.  I was about to get the signed message proving I have the funds over to Bitmainer 3.0.   Please understand it takes time for me to move funds to an Electrum wallet just to get a signature working (Ledger wallet only signs old Legacy addresses). I get that people have been burned before, and it seems the burden is on the newbies to prove themselves.  

Anyway- I will PM Bitmain with the signature to verify and let him decide what he wants to do with the information.  For what it's worth, I just met my obligations for another bid for minerjones mystery box 2 that I won: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5016495  Just look at the payee address transaction.

Allright Coincrag you get unbanned from Auction, i saw the
transaction from other Auction.
Feel free to bid :)


To any other Newbies and jr members if you want to participate please try to verify you with Theard Link where you bought an item.
Thank you

Thanks, Bitmainer, I appreciate you giving me a second chance  :)

 

I am pointing you to direct contradictions in your own words, because I am trying to understand what is going on in the auction I am participating in. Let's assume that I'm not the only person with these question; did Coingrag even receive an explanation? What kind of contradictions can I expect when comparing the items you describe in OP and the items I receive in my hand? This is why it is imperative that you stand on Principal, as all any bidders have is your word. You cannot lie directly to us, refuse to discuss it and then tell us to deal with it if you expect this auction to continue.

I am not mixing your posts, I am taking them one-by-one, play-by-play where you say one thing and then do or say the direct opposite. So far, all I have gathered is that I cannot trust your word very much and that you are unwilling to explain yourself. You're not willing to discuss why you banned a user from the auction after stating explicitly that particular user and bid was valid/permitted.

Very sloppy. Makes me pretty disinterred to even continue bidding.

Lets clarify some things it was just a reaction from my side, I agree with you Bill Gator there was no communication from my side.



The following happened:

Bill Gator started the discussion after Coincrag bidded, i react to he's inquiry for about Newbes that could manipulate the Auctions, but it's against the Data Protection Laws in my country i cant take a signed letter with name+date+adress for verfyfication thats why i banned all Newbes and Jr Members ( including the User Coincrag)
UPDATE:Anyway Newbes and Jr Members can still verify just post link with the Theard of the last payment in the Bitcoin Forums.

Because Coincrag payed the Minerjones Box 2( see payment link) he's allowed to bid, he can bid here, because we can trust him.

I think thats everything to say about this, i'm not perfect and my english is not very good, but i tryed now my best to clarify this.


I hope you can apologize me for the bann Coincrag :'(.


I hope you can apologize me too @Bill Gator :'( i hope everything is fine now

top bid 0.052BTC by Antuam

You realize there are other newbies and jr members like myself who have completed many transactions to gain trust? The way this auction has been handled by you, making up rules as you go and then changing those rules makes this auction a farse. I was looking forward to bidding, but by the way this auction has been handled I cannot trust I will receive the product...

I will do it with Minerjones Escrow Services or Online Escrow, please just post here the link to the theard where you bought items.

So, to clarify, you’re going to send these Satoris to MJ first before the winner sends payment?

You send the Bitcoins to Minerjones. after he got Bitcoins i will send the Satori Coins to your Adress, if everything is fine you pm Minerjones and he release payment to my bitcoin adress.

top bid 0.052BTC by Antuam____Auction ends tomorow(15.9.2018 at 6 PM MEZ (Germany Time)

Sniping: Any bids within the last 30 minutes will cause the auction end time to be extended by 30 minutes, until there are no more bids.

Auction ending soon top bid 0.052BTC by Antuam

0.052BTC are about 339.72 US-Dollar

winner bid 0.052BTC by Antuam Congratulations, I pm you for next steps.

Hello for all.

I have the box with the coins and all is perfect. The 8 satoricoins were very well packed and protected  ;)

Thanks you very much Bitmainer3.0

Have a good weekend.
Antuam