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Title: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: lordmeen on September 11, 2018, 10:00:13 AM
First of all.
I things vision of satoshi being after satoshi nakamoto don't post some things from in 2014
I use many hour per day to read many topic than most of BTC bitcoin millionaire believe in vision of satoshi and future of bitcoin
it don't have fundamental like stock in market exchange

Howevery. Vision can be use 3-5 years what things you want
                Mission is what do you do it this year and Action is what do you do now.
  
So how do you things if we call Philosophy of Nakamoto instead of Vision of Satoshi ?


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" is'n vision.it's "Philosophy"
Post by: avikz on September 11, 2018, 10:09:44 AM
Due to very poor English, I am unable to understand your statement entirely! However, let me know why do you think that "Vision" and "Philosophy" are two different things? There are fundamental differences but in broader perspective, how it is different? Both talks about the future and talks about an way to achieve the future goal.

Also let me know how it will make a difference if we call it as "Philosophy of Nakamoto" instead of "Vision of Satoshi"??


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" is'n vision.it's "Philosophy"
Post by: DooMAD on September 11, 2018, 11:23:49 AM
Regardless of whether you call it a vision, philosophy, mantra or something else entirely, Bitcoin has now grown far beyond the influence of one person (assuming satoshi wasn't a group, that is).  People should stop basing their views about Bitcoin's current direction on what they believe satoshi would have wanted.  Not only because no one can know exactly what that was now, but also because you can't logically have a decentralised crypto if you're constantly making an appeal to authority when trying to move forward.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" is'n vision.it's "Philosophy"
Post by: lordmeen on September 11, 2018, 12:14:49 PM
Due to very poor English, I am unable to understand your statement entirely! However, let me know why do you think that "Vision" and "Philosophy" are two different things? There are fundamental differences but in broader perspective, how it is different? Both talks about the future and talks about an way to achieve the future goal.

Also let me know how it will make a difference if we call it as "Philosophy of Nakamoto" instead of "Vision of Satoshi"??

Thank you for your answer. after i read your reply i things every second to explain you
And i will answer your as soon as possible


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" is'n vision.it's "Philosophy"
Post by: lordmeen on September 11, 2018, 12:34:18 PM
Regardless of whether you call it a vision, philosophy, mantra or something else entirely, Bitcoin has now grown far beyond the influence of one person (assuming satoshi wasn't a group, that is).  People should stop basing their views about Bitcoin's current direction on what they believe satoshi would have wanted.  Not only because no one can know exactly what that was now, but also because you can't logically have a decentralised crypto if you're constantly making an appeal to authority when trying to move forward.

Thank you so much . Thank you god to send you to reply my topic.
if i basing in satoshi BTCbitcoin it not decentralised i agree with you because vision of satoshi want to make bitcoin to decentralised

thank you agin.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" is'n vision.it's "Philosophy"
Post by: palle11 on September 11, 2018, 12:37:36 PM
However, let me know why do you think that "Vision" and "Philosophy" are two different things?

I just want to attempt on what I feel about the two terms as they relate to bitcoin.
For vision of Satoshi on bitcoin, it could be the popularity and adoption, price of bitcoin in the future. While,

For philosophy of Satoshi on bitcoin, it could be its purpose and solutions as against the norms with fiat currency which are basically the advanges of bitcoin. For example, anonymous, decentralized, easy usage etc.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" is'n vision.it's "Philosophy"
Post by: lordmeen on September 11, 2018, 02:21:52 PM
However, let me know why do you think that "Vision" and "Philosophy" are two different things?

I just want to attempt on what I feel about the two terms as they relate to bitcoin.
For vision of Satoshi on bitcoin, it could be the popularity and adoption, price of bitcoin in the future. While,

For philosophy of Satoshi on bitcoin, it could be its purpose and solutions as against the norms with fiat currency which are basically the advanges of bitcoin. For example, anonymous, decentralized, easy usage etc.

Thank you For your opinion. May i know where r u from?


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Fornam on September 15, 2018, 04:58:08 PM
If we think about Satoshi’s philosophy then his 1st intention of creating crypto is for reducing the problem with fiat currency because there were lots of problem related with fiat currency but with this Currency I mean BTC there is no problem and with blockchain tech we can get crystal clear transaction.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: hugeblack on September 16, 2018, 01:14:08 PM
This attempt to correct some of the apparent errors will make the topic better.

First of all.
I things vision of Satoshi being after Satoshi Nakamoto don't post some things from in 2014
I use many hours per day to read many topics than most of BTC bitcoin millionaire believe in a vision of Satoshi and future of bitcoin
it doesn't have fundamental like stock in market exchange

However. Vision can be used 3-5 years what things you want.
                A mission is what do you do it this year and Action is what do you do now.

Perhaps we can adopt Satoshi's philosophy if it exists, but his disappearance is proof that he wanted to ignite the idea of decentralization and not use for that account is a proof that he wants the currency to be decentralized as his decisions will have a lot of impacts.

The worst thing that can happen is the control of whales and governments over price or impact.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Dudeperfect on September 16, 2018, 02:22:36 PM
As per my understanding, it is something like a vision statement and mission statement for the Bitcoin. The vision states what will be the position of Bitcoin down the road and philosophy/mission statement will give the fundamental values and guidelines for the users to keep in mind while dealing with Bitcoin. However, I seriously feel that we should put use our energy to solve more important issues instead of playing with jargons.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: btcmaster999 on September 16, 2018, 09:21:31 PM
Instead of Satoshi Vision, Nakamoto's philosophy is not two things I believe. Although there is no difference. However, we can see there is a difference between them is if we think fundamentally. But in a larger view, this two are the same thing.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: BlackFly on September 18, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
I have a general idea about your statement. Where you say about philosophy and vision are two different topics. Although there is a fundamental difference between it. But in the larger perspective it has actually no different.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Patriode on September 18, 2018, 08:07:58 PM
You have mentioned something about a vision or Philosophy here. I think the subject of vision and Philosophy are same in broad sence but there has a little difference with vision and philosophy.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: CryptoGosu on September 19, 2018, 04:27:21 PM
I think that Satoshi's philosophy and Satoshi's vision are not one and the same. Satoshi's vision is his vision of Bitcoin and Satoshi's philosophy is how he sees the financial and social systems of society.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: robbietobby on September 19, 2018, 04:40:20 PM
I found this last 2017 by Satoshi Nakamoto, would have an estimated fortune of $ 17 billion at today's Bitcoin price. There are even theories that support the fact that it is rather a group of individuals who wanted to enrich themselves and not so much as to plant the seed of a financial revolution. In any case, that embryonic financial idea has not ceased to shake the foundations of the traditional economic system as people love to speculate nowadays.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: oceantiger on September 19, 2018, 04:42:53 PM
First of all.
I things vision of satoshi being after satoshi nakamoto don't post some things from in 2014
I use many hour per day to read many topic than most of BTC bitcoin millionaire believe in vision of satoshi and future of bitcoin
it don't have fundamental like stock in market exchange

Howevery. Vision can be use 3-5 years what things you want
                Mission is what do you do it this year and Action is what do you do now.
  
So how do you things if we call Philosophy of Nakamoto instead of Vision of Satoshi ?

I will like to differ a bit from you on mission. What is your Mission ? Mission is what you set out to achieve or what the project you are carrying out will end up bringing. Actions are what you will be doing to get your mission achieved. Your actions will lead you to your set goals which goals may be various or multiples which all of them when completed will result in the mission being fulfilled.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Argoo on September 19, 2018, 05:57:42 PM
I think that Satoshi Nakamoto had a slightly different view of how the bitcoin he had created should function. It was created as an alternative payment system to the existing payment system, so that people could use the new capabilities of the crypto currency. However, he probably could not have assumed that his bitcoin would now be usedas a speculative means of accumulating value.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: bratuha on September 19, 2018, 06:06:21 PM
I think that Satoshi Nakamoto had a slightly different view of how the bitcoin he had created should function. It was created as an alternative payment system to the existing payment system, so that people could use the new capabilities of the crypto currency. However, he probably could not have assumed that his bitcoin would now be usedas a speculative means of accumulating value.
I think that he sees this situation. The bitcoin is money and should to used as a speculative means of accumulating value


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Vipersia on September 22, 2018, 07:59:47 PM
Satoshi used to invent bitcoin the first crypto in the world. Bitcoin still improving and it's potentiality is high. So hope it's already able to fulfill satoshi's vision.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: RudeSlider on September 23, 2018, 08:10:02 PM
Bitcoin is the currency which are decentralized. So, there are no third party who monitoring this transection. So, definitely it's a great invesntion of satoshi. But how the philosophy work here?


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: goldencrypto7100 on October 04, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Satoshi is totally anonymous so we can't be predict anything about him/her surely. But your concept it not but. Hope you right n your own compliment.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: funchiestz on October 04, 2018, 07:40:43 PM
First of all.
I things vision of satoshi being after satoshi nakamoto don't post some things from in 2014
I use many hour per day to read many topic than most of BTC bitcoin millionaire believe in vision of satoshi and future of bitcoin
it don't have fundamental like stock in market exchange

Howevery. Vision can be use 3-5 years what things you want
                Mission is what do you do it this year and Action is what do you do now.
  
So how do you things if we call Philosophy of Nakamoto instead of Vision of Satoshi ?

I think Satoshi has a reason for not broadcasting messages. I think one of them is not wanting to break the decentralized structure. He stands behind the thing he created, but he's just trying to do it without talking.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: cryptoshops9944 on October 04, 2018, 07:50:21 PM
Its doesn’t makes any sense bitcoin is going far away it’s a philosophy or vision whatever you tell it. I think satoshi vision was for a successful bitcoin and a secure future. I am not what it is actually now.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: cryptogalaxy789 on October 04, 2018, 08:03:22 PM
Satoshi is the father of the concept of crypto currency. His vision was to launch a currency unlike fiat currency that will be introduced worldwide with a same value.He did it. All the features that is remaining have come from satoshi.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: GhostKnight on October 04, 2018, 08:27:07 PM
we can make different these two things. Vision and philosophy. Vision is something or some project goal.But if you say philosophy, it something that on satoshi believe.Before making Bitcoin, it was his philosophy that this can be popular in market. But when he tried to launch, it was his vision.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: jamesbondbd007 on October 04, 2018, 08:53:07 PM
Vision and philosophy are two different things to.Vision is the things that we can refer as target. Satoshi wanted a new currency that will be familiar worldwide and have the same value.And satoshi was succeeded to do that.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Oniko on October 04, 2018, 09:00:25 PM
Are you sure this person exists at all?

I think that Satoshi Nakamoto is a team from the National Security Agency of the United States or another influential state.

However, bitcoin can change the community for the better.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: Barrycuda007 on October 04, 2018, 09:50:26 PM
If Satoshi Nakamoto is regarded as a person or a company, it is presumable that bitcoin has grown farther than they or he/she assumed it to be. So connecting bitcoin's future to one's vision is not accepting.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: AmazingTiger on October 04, 2018, 09:56:20 PM
First of all, i am not sure how did you make difference between vision and philosophy. Please elaborate your ideas. In my opinion, bitcoin has no goal but to make a revolution to the electric currrency.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: RudeSlider on October 04, 2018, 10:02:25 PM
Bitcoin was created On 18 August 2008 by Satoshi Nakamoto. He did not knew how big it could grow one day. So in my opinion, his vision was not like what bitcoin is now. And it will continue to change.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: SIDDHI777 on October 05, 2018, 12:12:29 PM
Vision of Satoshi is to make bitcoin a global currency in the world so people can do transactions without any barriers or boundaries because bitcoin network has no interruptions by centralized organizations and also that makes its transaction fee to reduce and the mission is to accomplish that within a certain period of time which I think is successful because in a short period of time bitcoin has able to make a big noise in the world and that has become a reason for many companies to connect there core transactions with bitcoin


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: ErikLarsen1976 on October 05, 2018, 12:52:07 PM
If we think about Satoshi’s philosophy then his 1st intention of creating crypto is for reducing the problem with fiat currency because there were lots of problem related with fiat currency but with this Currency I mean BTC there is no problem and with blockchain tech we can get crystal clear transaction.


Title: Re: "Vision of Satoshi" To "Philosophy"
Post by: logitechwow on October 23, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
I am sure that Satoshi could not be mistaken in his words.
His words can really be called predictions, because they come true.
Do you think so too?