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Title: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 04:33:48 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Himanshu111 on September 17, 2018, 05:28:13 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others 
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.The demand of bitcoin is also low from a long time and some countries have also banned it.The cryptocurrency market is down.People are leaving bitcoin because they are suffering from losses.Although bitcoin has the potential to create records but it will take time to happen.Bitcoin's value is very volatile and it depends on number of factors like the forces of demand and supply,how much investment is done in it etc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 05:38:24 PM
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.

Can be but there have few more up coming news in this month, you may also know it like, Few EFT are pending for approval.
Specially for Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF.

Another point BTC Dominance: 56.0% last few month all time high. This point also can be sign for another bull in this year with bitcoin price.
Yes anything can be happen in cryptro currency market


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Lex_tor on September 17, 2018, 05:52:35 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

This year, more than 10k should not wait. A new bullish long distance race will be possible only with the involvement of many new players on the market. especially if it's any funds. But not all of them are ready to work where there is no regulation. SEC and ETF will not help. I doubt that the news background, if the ETF is adopted, will greatly shift the market. So, that nothing important for the industry in the head until it comes)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Lex_tor on September 17, 2018, 05:54:08 PM
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.

Can be but there have few more up coming news in this month, you may also know it like, Few EFT are pending for approval.
Specially for Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF.

Another point BTC Dominance: 56.0% last few month all time high. This point also can be sign for another bull in this year with bitcoin price.
Yes anything can be happen in cryptro currency market

ETF will only hurt bitcoin. I do not think that this will bring real benefits to the community.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: BALIK on September 17, 2018, 05:56:51 PM
So you're just going to list a bunch of random words, e.g. Bull run? What makes you think there's going to be a huge bull run towards the end of 2018? Just because there was one at the end of 2017 which many say was actually due to price manipulation? I highly doubt Bitcoin will be above $10,000 this year, looks like it's going to be a slow grind back to the top.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Lex_tor on September 17, 2018, 06:00:11 PM
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.The demand of bitcoin is also low from a long time and some countries have also banned it.The cryptocurrency market is down.People are leaving bitcoin because they are suffering from losses.Although bitcoin has the potential to create records but it will take time to happen.

the market is abandoned by hamsters which resulted in a wave of excitement, promising them untold riches. Only these guys have not explained how bitcoin works. As a result, the next haircut took place, after which the fools got rid of the "bitcoin deception" reflex.
The funny thing is that a new wave of excitement will bring them to the market back. And they will return. Because they see that there are a lot of people who make a lot of money here. The wormhole of greed in the heart of every person will not let the beginners stop. Some will endlessly lose. And others will try to master the laws of the market, after which they will join the crypto community. So is the process of popularization.

To raise the market, the inflow is necessary to capitalize on the part of big players. The more rich people are interested in the crypto, the more profit it will be possible to collect) or lose) here as lucky)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 06:00:51 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

This year, more than 10k should not wait. A new bullish long distance race will be possible only with the involvement of many new players on the market. especially if it's any funds. But not all of them are ready to work where there is no regulation. SEC and ETF will not help. I doubt that the news background, if the ETF is adopted, will greatly shift the market. So, that nothing important for the industry in the head until it comes)

Yes but one approved EFT can be make different. Anything can be happen in this bull market


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Lex_tor on September 17, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

This year, more than 10k should not wait. A new bullish long distance race will be possible only with the involvement of many new players on the market. especially if it's any funds. But not all of them are ready to work where there is no regulation. SEC and ETF will not help. I doubt that the news background, if the ETF is adopted, will greatly shift the market. So, that nothing important for the industry in the head until it comes)

Yes but one approved EFT can be make different. Anything can be happen in this bull market

I agree that the market is unpredictable. But I believe that the importance of the ETF is greatly overestimated. The media specifically throws us this news to manage the mood of the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 06:08:46 PM
So you're just going to list a bunch of random words, e.g. Bull run? What makes you think there's going to be a huge bull run towards the end of 2018? Just because there was one at the end of 2017 which many say was actually due to price manipulation? I highly doubt Bitcoin will be above $10,000 this year, looks like it's going to be a slow grind back to the top.

May be yes. I can say bitcoin going build there ginger day by day. Main signal through bitcoin BTC Dominance rate. last few month its so high, It can be a major signal its collect ginger day by day and it also can be high range any time.

Some people predicted last year about bitcoin: They normally do prediction in cryptro currency , they have high profile.

some one said 40k, some said 50k some one said 100k but really was bitcoin going strong day by day.

Hope for best future in bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: rudox on September 17, 2018, 06:10:11 PM
Bitcoin market is speculative in nature and predicting the market is not always easy. The market is volatile and reaching any price at any time is possible. In case of bitcoin the price rising to the last year high depends on some  on going negotiation like the  SEC-ETF rescheduled meeting this September. If at the end of the meeting and ETF is accepted as part of derivatives listed with SEC the price of bitcoin will likely rally from that they the approval is gotten.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Harlot on September 17, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
When I see an analysis on where BTC prices are going based on news I immediately go back and find a new topic especially when it is news related to ETFs as etfs really don't have an affect to us regular investors in the market. An analysis is made by either Fundamental or Technical analysis but if you are predicting prices based on news I wouldn't call it as an analysis in the first place as there is no even factual basis with the numbers you have given, it just looks like you have thrown a random number with your post.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Lex_tor on September 17, 2018, 06:18:41 PM
So you're just going to list a bunch of random words, e.g. Bull run? What makes you think there's going to be a huge bull run towards the end of 2018? Just because there was one at the end of 2017 which many say was actually due to price manipulation? I highly doubt Bitcoin will be above $10,000 this year, looks like it's going to be a slow grind back to the top.

May be yes. I can say bitcoin going build there ginger day by day. Main signal through bitcoin BTC Dominance rate. last few month its so high, It can be a major signal its collect ginger day by day and it also can be high range any time.

Some people predicted last year about bitcoin: They normally do prediction in cryptro currency , they have high profile.

some one said 40k, some said 50k some one said 100k but really was bitcoin going strong day by day.

Hope for best future in bitcoin

You hope correctly. But people - the predictors about whom you speak, with their statements only warm up the interest of the unsophisticated public and newcomers, in order to bring new players to the market. "Come to us - we have new opportunities here and a lot of money on the finger slit."
The crypto market is still too small for a really strong price increase. you need to significantly increase the kitalizatsiyu all the crypto currency and even then, you can wait 40-50-100 or even 500k $. I do not envy MaccAfi) there will be a eat scrambled eggs  with his bacon eating)

In the crypto currency, the information background is of great importance. and it is the shade of this background that often sets the mood of the market and the direction of its movement. If you can now come up with convincing evidence that bitcoin by the end of the year will cost 100k and you have enough money to tell about it in all media and make you believe in this lot of people around the world, there will be a chance that by the end of the year bitcoin will cost 100k). simply because people confident in your words will start buying it massively, they will begin to advise you to do the same to your friends and in the end will ensure the inflow of capital into the crypto market)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Lex_tor on September 17, 2018, 06:28:02 PM
When I see an analysis on where BTC prices are going based on news I immediately go back and find a new topic especially when it is news related to ETFs as etfs really don't have an affect to us regular investors in the market. An analysis is made by either Fundamental or Technical analysis but if you are predicting prices based on news I wouldn't call it as an analysis in the first place as there is no even factual basis with the numbers you have given, it just looks like you have thrown a random number with your post.

A lot of people will not agree with you. Since, unlike the stock market or Forex, the crypto-currency market is weakly subject to technical analysis.

You can not always even predict the change of trend, since the fundamental factor will be the news background. If the news comes out, for example, something like the fact that on some sort of exchange from inactive to the present moment of the purse they listed many bitcoins, then the probability of the trend being the opposite from what you see on the chart is high). News drives the minds of people. People manage money. And money controls the price. This is how the market moves. The price always follows the investment. And it so happened that more people believe it is news, not graphs.

I believe that it is necessary to combine technical analysis, scalping, ownership of indicators and news background. Then you will see the market completely. But the priority is the news background. At least because there are a lot of players on the crypto market who do not have financial education and do not have a lot of knowledge in trading strategies. They trade in their own way. And if such people were few - they would simply lose money. But when there are many such people - they move the market and make you lose money.)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: muneeb.zain on September 17, 2018, 06:31:20 PM
From the december of the last year it is going downwards and still their so let's hope that it will reach their and rise much more than that and make their believers happy and smile so lets just stay calm and wait for it and don't panic.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: omorfi on September 17, 2018, 06:37:53 PM
In my opinion futures market affect bitcoins price very badly. A lot of awareness doesn't always help to the price in the market, aha? But i m gonna hodl my bitcoins and alts. I dont plan to sell i like my cryptos lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: mahibul49 on September 17, 2018, 06:53:43 PM
i have faith in bitcoin and i trust that bitcoin will go to 15k to 20k very soon.
bitcoin following last years chart and i hope very soon some huge news will make btc ATH again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: monocolor on September 17, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Anything is possible but the likelihood is not looking well at this time. Usually a drop in bitcoin price will last for a few years, the recovery should not that fast.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Yari on September 17, 2018, 07:01:38 PM
i have faith in bitcoin and i trust that bitcoin will go to 15k to 20k very soon.
bitcoin following last years chart and i hope very soon some huge news will make btc ATH again.

I do not just believe. I have no doubt.
But growth will not be as fast as predicted by "experts."


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may a YES
Post by: adzino on September 17, 2018, 07:03:04 PM
You are not giving any strong reasons behind your speculations. Just because the price went above $18,000 last year during december does not mean that the same thing will be repeating this year. Keep in mind that this is crypto market. The prices are unpredictable. No matter if the ETF is approved or some good news form SEC won't guarantee a price rise. We can say that the price may go above $18,000 or below $1,000 within the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Yari on September 17, 2018, 07:06:59 PM
Anything is possible but the likelihood is not looking well at this time. Usually a drop in bitcoin price will last for a few years, the recovery should not that fast.

Catch the moment - buy more now)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: RVRovin on September 17, 2018, 07:07:22 PM
I would be happy to see $10000 again in the next year or two - a slower ascent is more sustainable


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may a YES
Post by: Yari on September 17, 2018, 07:09:39 PM
You are not giving any strong reasons behind your speculations. Just because the price went above $18,000 last year during december does not mean that the same thing will be repeating this year. Keep in mind that this is crypto market. The prices are unpredictable. No matter if the ETF is approved or some good news form SEC won't guarantee a price rise. We can say that the price may go above $18,000 or below $1,000 within the end of the year.

Do not be so uninformative). It is from such predictions that rumors begin. Rumors later rework in the news) And the news is one of the levers of market management)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Yari on September 17, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
I would be happy to see $10000 again in the next year or two - a slower ascent is more sustainable

Next year, you will definitely see. No matter how slow the growth was, the market will need new people. And in order to attract them - the market should again become attractive)


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Yari on September 17, 2018, 07:14:48 PM
From the december of the last year it is going downwards and still their so let's hope that it will reach their and rise much more than that and make their believers happy and smile so lets just stay calm and wait for it and don't panic.

I do not see any sense in panic when it comes to bitcoin. The past decade on a personal example has proved that bitcoin is like a fiery phoenix. burning, he always finds the strength to be reborn from the ashes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tee-rex on September 17, 2018, 08:01:26 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others 

Don't expect massive bull-runs till halving and sometime before the halving, likely in the range of 7-9 month. ETF's are a dead horse, it's no use beating it over and over again. No SEC will approve it until bitcoin becomes established in the real world as a currency, commodity, service, or whatever. No one in they sane mind is going to officially allow investments in something which has only speculative value and virtually nonexistent real value.

On the other hand, there are whales that may easily bring the price down, and that will crash the market even further. Ultimately, it will lead to more uniform distribution of coins, which is a good thing. But the whole process will be a prolonged pain in the ass, which may take years to dissolve.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Serious Miner on September 17, 2018, 08:25:46 PM
Maybe or maybe not. It is really very difficult to predict that what will happen in the future. Because we all know that the market is unpredictable. But it is true that the price of bitcoin will increase in the future. I think it looks hard for the bitcoin to hit $18K even by this year. We can say that the price may go above $10,000 or below $7000 by the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: solarion on September 17, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
We should understand the market trend of cryptocurrency is volatile by its nature itself. There is all possibilities to reach this value if we compare and see the last couple of years.
This is happened in the sense we need to check and confirm that we gonna reach the peak value of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: aoluain on September 17, 2018, 09:09:24 PM
From my thread in the speculation board hinting at a possible increase
for the last quarter of the year the general consensus is that there will
not be as big a rise as expected.

Here is the thread with sone very interesting points > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029875.0


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 09:13:13 PM
Bitcoin market is speculative in nature and predicting the market is not always easy. The market is volatile and reaching any price at any time is possible. In case of bitcoin the price rising to the last year high depends on some  on going negotiation like the  SEC-ETF rescheduled meeting this September. If at the end of the meeting and ETF is accepted as part of derivatives listed with SEC the price of bitcoin will likely rally from that they the approval is gotten.

Agree with your point


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 09:16:20 PM
i have faith in bitcoin and i trust that bitcoin will go to 15k to 20k very soon.
bitcoin following last years chart and i hope very soon some huge news will make btc ATH again.

Same hope here. there have lots of positive thinks as well, lets see hows going with up coming days  and need to keep in eye with SEC and EFT as well


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tradcoin on September 17, 2018, 09:18:35 PM
Anything is possible but the likelihood is not looking well at this time. Usually a drop in bitcoin price will last for a few years, the recovery should not that fast.
yes, but recovery can be fast with some strong positive news. hope day by day it will be increasing in tower


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: the1arty on September 17, 2018, 11:39:11 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

That is very real. However, we need to wait for a reversal pattern first of all. Once I will see the new high of the previous one, I will start analysing the prise. So far we are going to about $5700.
Everyone sees the uptrend every day, however, we are still going down..


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: OrangeII on September 18, 2018, 12:41:03 AM
Anything is possible but the likelihood is not looking well at this time. Usually a drop in bitcoin price will last for a few years, the recovery should not that fast.
yes, but recovery can be fast with some strong positive news. hope day by day it will be increasing in tower
most likely the price will be far enough at a price of $ 18,000, but I'm sure the price of bitcoin will be around the price of $ 10000 by the end of this year. although difficult, I think bitcoin is able to reach that price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Getcoinsite on September 18, 2018, 01:31:10 AM
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.

Can be but there have few more up coming news in this month, you may also know it like, Few EFT are pending for approval.
Specially for Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF.

Another point BTC Dominance: 56.0% last few month all time high. This point also can be sign for another bull in this year with bitcoin price.
Yes anything can be happen in cryptro currency market

Stop relying on ETF buddy because cryptocurrency can stand without that damn approval since we have been failed for how many times about that trying’s so lete face the reality that market is in the right form now and this is where we should start

You are not giving any strong reasons behind your speculations. Just because the price went above $18,000 last year during december does not mean that the same thing will be repeating this year. Keep in mind that this is crypto market. The prices are unpredictable. No matter if the ETF is approved or some good news form SEC won't guarantee a price rise. We can say that the price may go above $18,000 or below $1,000 within the end of the year.

Perfect point on this one mate,we are being focused on that ETF that as if this will save us from nightmares but its wrong because were the one who’s responsible on our actions and money so don’t expect for high value market instead learn how to catch with this neutral prices


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: trako on September 18, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
What if you're talking about $ 18,000 for only a few days? yes such a thing possible.
There's even the possibility of $ 50,000.
but let's be realistic. and talk with our financial information.
2018 early to see the closing price and market volume.
if we look at the data we have, there is no upward movement.
should appear in the bottom of a wave supported by the bottom.
There is no such wave at the moment. Unfortunately...
short-term high figures do not mean anything.
we need our gradual and steady rise.
If we get $ 12,000, we should be happy. It's not wise to wait for more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tee-rex on September 18, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
What if you're talking about $ 18,000 for only a few days? yes such a thing possible.
There's even the possibility of $ 50,000.
but let's be realistic. and talk with our financial information.
2018 early to see the closing price and market volume.
if we look at the data we have, there is no upward movement.
should appear in the bottom of a wave supported by the bottom.
There is no such wave at the moment. Unfortunately...
short-term high figures do not mean anything.
we need our gradual and steady rise.
If we get $ 12,000, we should be happy. It's not wise to wait for more.

If you sell somebody 1 satoshi for 1 dollar in a private transaction, that would mean a price of 10M dollars per bitcoin (if I didn't miss a few zeros). It should be obvious that such price is irrelevant for the market as we need prices across various exchanges to be in that range for some time, and with meaningful trading volumes at that.

Other than that, I fully agree with your point. Many people will be happy if prices come close to just 10k, not even speaking of breaking through that resistance level. The price range of 10-12k was solid support in February before the collapse which happened in March due to Mt.Gox trustee liquidating part of his stash, with many people buying piles of bitcoins around that price level. Today, this support has turned into the Bitcoin great wall, or rather ceiling, which will be hard to break if we ever come close to it at all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 18, 2018, 04:26:00 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

In the spirit of being practicable with the situation of things, not being pessimistic but its going to be hard to reach such high point before the end of the year reason being that the factors you have there, even if all of them turn out to be positive, it does not just by default send price to all time high. Its a  process and a gradual one that if the increase is on a sporadic rate, it also sends a message that caution needs to be exercised rather than rejoicing over the current happenings.

ETFs at this time should just not be an option to start to consider as the likely pish point for the increment that is expected because judging by past happenings, it would be unwise to start putting hope on that in which at the end its to get disappointed. If it will come, all good but no banking actions on it.

Other factors are also something to consider but really, nothing much should be expected. The only thing that is feasible enough to make some marginal push is the conscious effort to increase market activities.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: lyfecoin on September 18, 2018, 07:47:03 PM
To be honest,nobody knows the future price of bitcoin.All predictions are just guesses.Bitcoin price is more or stable and trading in a range from last few months and has not reacted much to positive or negative news. I don't think there are any positive indications of ETF from SEC as it already said it is too early to allow ETFs .I don't think btc  price will reach even $10k by the end of 2018


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: zazarb on September 19, 2018, 12:13:51 PM
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.

Can be but there have few more up coming news in this month, you may also know it like, Few EFT are pending for approval.
Specially for Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF.

Another point BTC Dominance: 56.0% last few month all time high. This point also can be sign for another bull in this year with bitcoin price.
Yes anything can be happen in cryptro currency market

ETF will only hurt bitcoin. I do not think that this will bring real benefits to the community.

I think that there is almost no chance that ETF will be approved.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: betlord90 on September 19, 2018, 12:27:44 PM
I think not this year because the prices are unable to rise from a very long time.

Can be but there have few more up coming news in this month, you may also know it like, Few EFT are pending for approval.
Specially for Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF.

Another point BTC Dominance: 56.0% last few month all time high. This point also can be sign for another bull in this year with bitcoin price.
Yes anything can be happen in cryptro currency market

ETF will only hurt bitcoin. I do not think that this will bring real benefits to the community.

I think that there is almost no chance that ETF will be approved.

Don't believe either for the approval since government is not satisfy for the grounds on why they would accept it  as a asset.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: South Park on September 19, 2018, 10:48:04 PM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  
If your analysis is telling you that bitcoin can reach 18000 dollars before the end of this year then the only thing that I can say to you is that you should probably review your system of predictions, because it is very unlikely that we are going to see such a price before the end of the year, there is a chance that we could see it in 2019 but a safer choice will be 2020.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: kzozenberg on September 20, 2018, 09:14:48 AM
I think that bitcoin will reach the goal of $ 18,000 at the end of the year or at the beginning of the next year after which it will update the historical maximum !


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: hengha on September 20, 2018, 09:22:57 AM
I think it is necessary to have such a decline in the price of Bitcoin, because if its price has been at a high level, the number of investors buying may be reduced, and now its price is more attractive!


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: sunanbonang on September 20, 2018, 10:32:11 AM
only $ 18k? that means lower than last year.
Currently the price of bitcoin is very difficult to reach $ 10k, bitcoin loses a lot of confidence from investors because of the bear market that lasted so long.
need a very strong push to reach $ 18k, but I'm not sure this will happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tepakpak on September 20, 2018, 01:46:48 PM
I believe that the price of $ 18,000 will be achieved but don't know when, I just believe and wait for the end of the year that prices will skyrocket again. think positively.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: South Park on September 21, 2018, 04:47:16 PM
I believe that the price of $ 18,000 will be achieved but don't know when, I just believe and wait for the end of the year that prices will skyrocket again. think positively.
There is a big difference between being positive and denying the reality that is just right in front of you, I also believe that we're going to see the price of 18000 at some point in the future, probably in a few years, but if you think the price is going to skyrocket again at the end of the year then you are going to be disappointed because it's not going to happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: thecodebear on September 21, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
No.

Why would the price suddenly almost triple. We'll soon be coming out of the bear market but that doesn't mean its suddenly gonna jump straight into the next mania phase. Look at the last long crash-boom cycle from 2014 - 2017. That is a model to follow now. The previous cycles were short because it was a much smaller market. Now we are looking at cycles that next a few years (granted the last one was elongated due to Mt.Gox). The price of Bitcoin didn't suddenly jump from $200 to $600 in the summer of 2015 when the market was making its turnaround from bear to bull. It slowly turned around forming a long term cup shape. And that is what we are starting to see now, we are reaching the end of the downward cup shape, with the line of the cup now near the bottom and starting to go horizontal meaning the shift from bear to bull market will be happening this Fall most likely. But absent any groundbreaking news that also means we won't see any crazy fluctuations as the bull pressure slowly starts to outpace the bear pressure.

If anything the price will be more stable than normal the next few months as we complete this reversal from bear market to bull market, not having a crazy 3x jump to almost ATH all of a sudden.

By end of year I'd say look for the turnaround of the market, a clear sign of which will be if Bitcoin breaks significantly above $7400, which was the most recent of the lower highs of this bear market. Breaking that won't mean we are necessarily in the bull market, but it would be a clear indication that at the very least we are in the turnaround, keeping in a channel in the 6 and 7 thousands until the turnaround is complete and price starts going up again. At worst I'd expect this turnaround to take the rest of the year and we won't see the price start going up out of the 6-7 thousand range until beginning of next year. But its also possibly the turnaround only last a couple months and we could see a break into the 8000s by end of year, even perhaps hitting a temporary high over 9000 before year's end. But the key thing is the turnaround of the market is a slow process because it is when the pressures of the various interests even out and then turn back positive, which is slow and it should take months - we very well could be a few weeks into it already though!

Basically expect to perhaps see the first higher high (above $7500) of the year before the year is out. If we get a second higher high after a correction by early next year then that will be a clear sign we are back in the bull market and now just banging around the bottom of the market. Expect next year to be like 2016, long relatively slow "non-boom" like growth heading back up towards the ATH. It's possible we see Bitcoin break $20k by end of 2019. Then 2020 will likely be the next boom year like 2017, 2013, 2011, but more like 2017 than the others because now the cycles last longer and as we saw last year the boom can take much of the year (basically went from beginning of May to mid December).

$100k in 2020 could very well be possible, before the next crash. $20k in 2019 might happen. $8k by the end of this year might happen. Don't expect any crazy stuff to happen in the next few months, this is when forces are evening out and the price will probably be more stable than it will be for the next few years until the next bottoming out maybe 3 or 4 years from now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Morgann on September 22, 2018, 06:31:03 AM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

There is a huge chance that it will reach $50k dollars since most of the people in other countries are now legalized to invest on cryptocurrencies and that is the reason why it might really reach 50k dollars.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: vasrasus on September 22, 2018, 07:51:10 AM
You may know cryptro currency was all time hit dec and jan. Through my analysis. it can be again top position in this year. I think main point can be through investor sentiment and SEC. What you think about bitcoin price in coming few month. What can be positive mark to downgrade bitcoin price and what can be positive part to break new price in this year. Bulls can be turn this market any time. keep in eye.

When few more EFT waiting for approval current month:
Specially for: Direxion ETF and SolidX ETF

Few Notes:

SEC News
Investor Sentiment
Bulls Run
Government Issue

whats others  

There is a huge chance that it will reach $50k dollars since most of the people in other countries are now legalized to invest on cryptocurrencies and that is the reason why it might really reach 50k dollars.
If the arise will took quickly like it did last year then it can really help to achieved that amount befor the year ends, but since the price aren't moving too fast then maybe next year will see it. Knowing that crypto is getting able to reach by many communities anything will be possible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Mr.grin on September 22, 2018, 08:02:32 AM
I believe that the price of $ 18,000 will be achieved but don't know when, I just believe and wait for the end of the year that prices will skyrocket again. think positively.
There is a big difference between being positive and denying the reality that is just right in front of you, I also believe that we're going to see the price of 18000 at some point in the future, probably in a few years, but if you think the price is going to skyrocket again at the end of the year then you are going to be disappointed because it's not going to happen.
probably not. well, we know that even very high bitcoin movements will become unstable. we can see the bitcoin price movements that occurred in the past 2 months. the price of bitcoin rose very fast to the price of $ 8k, but within a few weeks the price dropped to $ 6k, and it happened earlier this month. well, I think, the price of bitcoin at the end of the year will be stable at a price of $ 9k - $ 10k


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: realBitcoiner on September 22, 2018, 12:03:21 PM
What if you're talking about $ 18,000 for only a few days? yes such a thing possible.
There's even the possibility of $ 50,000.
but let's be realistic. and talk with our financial information.
2018 early to see the closing price and market volume.
if we look at the data we have, there is no upward movement.
should appear in the bottom of a wave supported by the bottom.
There is no such wave at the moment. Unfortunately...
short-term high figures do not mean anything.
we need our gradual and steady rise.
If we get $ 12,000, we should be happy. It's not wise to wait for more.
I think it is not possible because there are just three more months in this year and the price is still below $6500 and the given target is very high. There is long way to go to reach to this point. It is not possible in this year. In my opinion the price will remain the same as it is today. There are no signs for the price to grow in the coming months.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tee-rex on September 22, 2018, 02:54:08 PM
only $ 18k? that means lower than last year.
Currently the price of bitcoin is very difficult to reach $ 10k, bitcoin loses a lot of confidence from investors because of the bear market that lasted so long.
need a very strong push to reach $ 18k, but I'm not sure this will happen.

As to me, I don't think that bitcoin loses trust right now. In fact, I'm more inclined to think that it gains trust as we see almost all altcoins crash while bitcoin is rock solid. What could it be if not accumulating trust? Indeed, there will be a lot of resistance on the way up, and 18k or anywhere around that figure looks unreachable for the time being. But we don't need to get there in less than no time as we need more stable prices probably coupled with slow, organic growth representing real value other than the speculative one. This is the only way in which long-term trust can be established.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: napi on September 22, 2018, 04:18:14 PM
I think it will be very difficult because there must be good news that can trigger an increase in the price of bitcoin and there must be a pope who wants to help to increase the price of bitcoin back to that expensive price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Xenoph0bia on September 22, 2018, 05:17:03 PM
only $ 18k? that means lower than last year.
Currently the price of bitcoin is very difficult to reach $ 10k, bitcoin loses a lot of confidence from investors because of the bear market that lasted so long.
need a very strong push to reach $ 18k, but I'm not sure this will happen.

As to me, I don't think that bitcoin loses trust right now. In fact, I'm more inclined to think that it gains trust as we see almost all altcoins crash while bitcoin is rock solid. What could it be if not accumulating trust? Indeed, there will be a lot of resistance on the way up, and 18k or anywhere around that figure looks unreachable for the time being. But we don't need to get there in less than no time as we need more stable prices probably coupled with slow, organic growth representing real value other than the speculative one. This is the only way in which long-term trust can be established.
I don't think so that Bitcoin can reach $18,000 mark this year because the price of Bitcoin is very down from very long time and demand of Bitcoin has also falling down.The Bitcoin market is also decreasing because the prices are not increasing.Investment in bitcoin has also fallen because it is not able to give decent amount of profit returns.Some countries have also banned Bitcoin due to its volatility and decentralised nature.People are selling their Bitcoins at very low prices.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: senin on September 22, 2018, 06:39:35 PM
The closer we come to the end of the year, the more we lose confidence that bitcoin and other crypto currency will be able to rise in value by the end of the year. Bitcoin continues to practically stand still, the rest of the crypto currency is also in stagnation. Therefore, it is unlikely that after such a long period of stagnation, bitcoin can immediately grow in price by more than two times. A few months ago, the price of bitcoin about 18,000 dollars seemed achievable, but to date it seems to be little real.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: cakravothy on September 22, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
still posible bitcoin price can reach to 18000 dollar
but still very dificult need big news big pump if need bitcoin price reach to 18k dollar


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: aqila baruroh on September 22, 2018, 10:39:52 PM
I'm sure the price of bitcoin will be high again later this year, but in my opinion $ 18k is too high. maybe bitcoin prices can only reach $ 15k, or lower than that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: kulitmanggis on September 22, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
Yes, I am sure that this could happen this year, just waiting for good news to be able to increase prices, and it will be very easy if there is good news.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: entrepmind23 on September 23, 2018, 02:07:57 AM
Yes, I am sure that this could happen this year, just waiting for good news to be able to increase prices, and it will be very easy if there is good news.

If there would be a hype again then that price would be reachable. Current price would need to increase thrice before that target of yours will be reach. Well, I am hoping for it as well but let's be realistic in here and if you want to increase your holdings then trade and then take profit even if it's just a little because you are not on;y gaining profit when you are doing it but you can have the experience as well may it be profit or loss and you can improve your trading. I think it would be better than wishing for the price to go back up and then be frustrated when it's taking so long.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Abu Shadow on September 23, 2018, 01:08:26 PM
 I believe in bitcoin technology that this will rise to ATH but making it happen this year is too tough to make it as we had many bad news and market is not yet ready to make a strong bull run. Maybe next year we can see that bull run.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tee-rex on September 23, 2018, 04:04:28 PM
Yes, I am sure that this could happen this year, just waiting for good news to be able to increase prices, and it will be very easy if there is good news.

If there would be a hype again then that price would be reachable. Current price would need to increase thrice before that target of yours will be reach. Well, I am hoping for it as well but let's be realistic in here and if you want to increase your holdings then trade and then take profit even if it's just a little because you are not on;y gaining profit when you are doing it but you can have the experience as well may it be profit or loss and you can improve your trading. I think it would be better than wishing for the price to go back up and then be frustrated when it's taking so long.

Let's theorize for a little while. What kind of hype should that be to make all those buyers of bitcoin who had bought above 10k and desperately want to sell change their mind and keep their coins? Perhaps, some powerful government, like that of China, welcoming bitcoin in a major way, but from my perspective, oceans will sooner turn to desert and hell will turn to ice than anything like that is going to happen. It should be the hype of all hypes to make all holders hold their coins on instead of trying to break even and forget about crypto as a nightmare, which for many of them it has become.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: randythered on September 23, 2018, 08:53:10 PM
Yes, I am sure that this could happen this year, just waiting for good news to be able to increase prices, and it will be very easy if there is good news.

If there would be a hype again then that price would be reachable. Current price would need to increase thrice before that target of yours will be reach. Well, I am hoping for it as well but let's be realistic in here and if you want to increase your holdings then trade and then take profit even if it's just a little because you are not on;y gaining profit when you are doing it but you can have the experience as well may it be profit or loss and you can improve your trading. I think it would be better than wishing for the price to go back up and then be frustrated when it's taking so long.

Let's theorize for a little while. What kind of hype should that be to make all those buyers of bitcoin who had bought above 10k and desperately want to sell change their mind and keep their coins? Perhaps, some powerful government, like that of China, welcoming bitcoin in a major way, but from my perspective, oceans will sooner turn to desert and hell will turn to ice than anything like that is going to happen. It should be the hype of all hypes to make all holders hold their coins on instead of trying to break even and forget about crypto as a nightmare, which for many of them it has become.

Too right. Turning the market from a strong downtrend to a strong uptrend in a short period of time is near impossible, it would take something completely unexpected and unprecedented. Something like a country coming out and saying they're going to adopt bitcoin as their national currency but that is not going to happen. At least not in 2018.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: darkangel on September 23, 2018, 09:10:57 PM
Nothing is certain in this market, We still have the last 3 months of 2018 to hope that the price can reach 18000$ again. Just like 2017, growth is only going to last for two months, but it can happen again in 2018, but it can not be sure. We need to wait until October for everything to be clearer


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: lauder_larger on September 24, 2018, 06:40:17 AM
What if you're talking about $ 18,000 for only a few days? yes such a thing possible.
There's even the possibility of $ 50,000.
but let's be realistic. and talk with our financial information.
2018 early to see the closing price and market volume.
if we look at the data we have, there is no upward movement.
should appear in the bottom of a wave supported by the bottom.
There is no such wave at the moment. Unfortunately...
short-term high figures do not mean anything.
we need our gradual and steady rise.
If we get $ 12,000, we should be happy. It's not wise to wait for more.

If you sell somebody 1 satoshi for 1 dollar in a private transaction, that would mean a price of 10M dollars per bitcoin (if I didn't miss a few zeros). It should be obvious that such price is irrelevant for the market as we need prices across various exchanges to be in that range for some time, and with meaningful trading volumes at that.

Other than that, I fully agree with your point. Many people will be happy if prices come close to just 10k, not even speaking of breaking through that resistance level. The price range of 10-12k was solid support in February before the collapse which happened in March due to Mt.Gox trustee liquidating part of his stash, with many people buying piles of bitcoins around that price level. Today, this support has turned into the Bitcoin great wall, or rather ceiling, which will be hard to break if we ever come close to it at all.
One thing I want to say that it is cryptocurrency world and anything is possible in this world. I will be very happy if bitcoin price reach to $18000 till the end of this year, but the question is how? Investment cap is low and the demand too. People are putting their money in Altcoin because they think that Altcoin are more potencail than bitcoin and will give them profit in short time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: tee-rex on September 24, 2018, 02:51:32 PM
What if you're talking about $ 18,000 for only a few days? yes such a thing possible.
There's even the possibility of $ 50,000.
but let's be realistic. and talk with our financial information.
2018 early to see the closing price and market volume.
if we look at the data we have, there is no upward movement.
should appear in the bottom of a wave supported by the bottom.
There is no such wave at the moment. Unfortunately...
short-term high figures do not mean anything.
we need our gradual and steady rise.
If we get $ 12,000, we should be happy. It's not wise to wait for more.

If you sell somebody 1 satoshi for 1 dollar in a private transaction, that would mean a price of 10M dollars per bitcoin (if I didn't miss a few zeros). It should be obvious that such price is irrelevant for the market as we need prices across various exchanges to be in that range for some time, and with meaningful trading volumes at that.

Other than that, I fully agree with your point. Many people will be happy if prices come close to just 10k, not even speaking of breaking through that resistance level. The price range of 10-12k was solid support in February before the collapse which happened in March due to Mt.Gox trustee liquidating part of his stash, with many people buying piles of bitcoins around that price level. Today, this support has turned into the Bitcoin great wall, or rather ceiling, which will be hard to break if we ever come close to it at all.
One thing I want to say that it is cryptocurrency world and anything is possible in this world. I will be very happy if bitcoin price reach to $18000 till the end of this year, but the question is how? Investment cap is low and the demand too. People are putting their money in Altcoin because they think that Altcoin are more potencail than bitcoin and will give them profit in short time.

Well, I'm afraid that's not how things work, or they work that way only in your imagination (no offense intended). It is the "outside" world that can boost the prices of cryptocurrencies as there is no other route that money can flow into cryptocurrencies. And right now it doesn't look like this world, a world outside crypto, is very much interested in cryptocurrencies. The price will rise only if they (cryptocurrencies) make advances into this world, something like the Sturm und Drang of crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: Kevin77 on September 24, 2018, 04:20:33 PM
Nothing is certain in this market, We still have the last 3 months of 2018 to hope that the price can reach 18000$ again. Just like 2017, growth is only going to last for two months, but it can happen again in 2018, but it can not be sure. We need to wait until October for everything to be clearer
$18k mark is something that could be possible if we get to see some pretty good move upward this year, but I really would not be counting on it so much, judging from how things have been over the years and for the fact that we are still in a bear trend at least for now. It is hard to always tell what a market will always hold and the thing we can do is to just keep monitoring the trends and then, we can see where it leads eventually, but I would not say $18k is not a possibility.

One thing I want to say that it is cryptocurrency world and anything is possible in this world. I will be very happy if bitcoin price reach to $18000 till the end of this year, but the question is how?
Everything is always possible, but technically, there are some things that one may not seem could be possible much but all the same, as long as we cannot tell what the future holds, it still does not mean we will not always get to see some possibilities or some surprises in the long run. We could say for what it is worth, we can actually get to see bitcoin attaining some good height, and $18k is not that bad, but all this would depend on what the future certainly holds anyway.


Title: Re: Bitcoin again $18000 mark in this year? Definitely may YES
Post by: gabmen on September 25, 2018, 05:22:23 PM
Nothing is certain in this market, We still have the last 3 months of 2018 to hope that the price can reach 18000$ again. Just like 2017, growth is only going to last for two months, but it can happen again in 2018, but it can not be sure. We need to wait until October for everything to be clearer

Well although the last 4 months have given us pretty good runs in the past years, i wouldn't count much on getting to even 15k this time. Unless the whales decide so but if it's just the natural flow of things in crypto, i doubt it.