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Title: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: coinlocket$ on September 18, 2018, 05:33:37 PM I was reading the forum and I came across this account romaleshc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=883597) and I immediately noticed the fact that he had 250 merit and that he only had the rank of junior member.
After careful investigation I can assume the account has been sold as we can see here https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=romaleshc. https://puu.sh/Bx5Ae/c38617c41f.png Is there any tool to see the old post history of some people on the forum even if it is deleted? Probably this account has been sold as a senior member (with all posts deleted), he needs just to spam around the forum to get the rank since he already has the merit. @LoyceV can you check on scapped old posts? Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: LeGaulois on September 18, 2018, 05:46:54 PM The user deleted about 500 posts http://archive.is/xNJ6B
One solution could be to visit this clone -thebitcointalk.net- and search for his/her username and so you will be able to find his/her posts Of course, don't try to log in in this forum edit: this forum didn't have the posts anymore, but there is another clone, so you may look at it too Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: LoyceV on September 18, 2018, 07:15:59 PM Sorry, I can only scrape what still exists. Unfortunately I don't have the space to store all posts (although I've started this a few days ago, compressed posts excluding quotes only take 10 MB per day).
I don't really see much harm in this: a spammer with less spam, how great is that! There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie. edit: this forum didn't have the posts anymore, but there is another clone, so you may look at it too I tried the other phishing site (through archive.is, because my PC can't access it) already, but it's gone there too.Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: InvoKing on September 18, 2018, 07:20:54 PM There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie. Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie. Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: nwanne on September 18, 2018, 08:58:40 PM There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie. Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie. Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: xtraelv on September 18, 2018, 11:02:44 PM I've seen this before with farmed accounts. By deleting the post history they can sell the account and re-use the previous posts to farm a new account without getting caught for plagiarism.
Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: mohammedmattar on September 18, 2018, 11:10:21 PM I've seen this before with farmed accounts. By deleting the post history they can sell the account and re-use the previous posts to farm a new account without getting caught for plagiarism. This is a big weakness that needs to be addressed.Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: bitart on September 19, 2018, 09:20:17 PM I've seen this before with farmed accounts. By deleting the post history they can sell the account and re-use the previous posts to farm a new account without getting caught for plagiarism. This is a big weakness that needs to be addressed.But one thing that came into my mind in connection with this: If someone has created a proper topic and started a real conversation about a meaningful topic, and have received merit for it, but... Some shitposters have taken over the topic (because most of the topics are not self-moderated) and it became a spamfest, mods can delete the whole topic and the well deserved merit too... So it's not a solution, in the end, unfortunately... Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: r1s2g3 on September 19, 2018, 10:12:38 PM There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie. Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie. Hero can be certainly demoted. I have a proof of it where Hero demoted itself just to take part in signature campaign to satisfy Merit requirement. Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355801 http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/355801.html https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Hell-raiser See, user earned only 15 merits but has total of 515 but currently a Senior Member. Did not find a legendary demoting itself, but I think it will be possible also. Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: xtraelv on September 20, 2018, 05:21:07 AM There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie. Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie. Hero can be certainly demoted. I have a proof of it where Hero demoted itself just to take part in signature campaign to satisfy Merit requirement. Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355801 http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/355801.html https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Hell-raiser See, user earned only 15 merits but has total of 515 but currently a Senior Member. Did not find a legendary demoting itself, but I think it will be possible also. You are correct. It is possible to demote yourself from hero. https://i.imgur.com/rFIznSK.png https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911155 https://i.imgur.com/hYxK8XT.png https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=828879 Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 20, 2018, 01:12:49 PM You are correct. It is possible to demote yourself from hero. Clairvoyance...user knew he was going to self-destruct in 2018 while registering the account in 2016. Check the moniker. Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: FleurTunisienne on October 21, 2018, 11:27:36 AM After reading the full discussion, i just need to understand one point; what issue in adjustment of the merit system by deleting awarded merits from users profiles when deleting matched posts?
Demoting from Hero to Brand new is possible by deleting post history and upranking from noob to Legend will only depends on activities/posts but why merit points are statics ? Don't you think that this still help account traders and hackers ? Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 21, 2018, 11:37:17 AM I just wonder how they are able to remove all the traces.
Normally someone somewhere should qoute you at least once for all those 500 comments. If they post only in one megathread and it gets deleted is the other option. Crazy... Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: tmfp on October 21, 2018, 12:09:14 PM I just wonder how they are able to remove all the traces. Normally someone somewhere should qoute you at least once for all those 500 comments... Put the user name in the search function to find out. E.g. do that for the above mentioned Kda2018 and you'll find out he claimed to have bought 100k of Pascal Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1583719.msg38929684#msg38929684). What use that info is, is another matter. Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: bitart on October 21, 2018, 01:13:38 PM I just wonder how they are able to remove all the traces. They just start a new topic in the Off topic section and nobody will care if it will have 500 or more comments...Normally someone somewhere should qoute you at least once for all those 500 comments. If they post only in one megathread and it gets deleted is the other option. Crazy... As soon as it's done, they can delete the posts and nobody will miss those 500 comments... I always suggest to just totally delete the Off-topic section, because it's a sandbox for the spammers and account farmers... but I know that there are several meaningful posts in it and we just cannot delete those valuable thoughts :P Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: coinlocket$ on October 28, 2018, 03:24:32 PM One another interesting case here
Yured (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1047337) bought/sold account? https://puu.sh/BSkyP/33b5df6aab.png https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Yured https://puu.sh/BSkmW/a53667dba0.png Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: olumyd on October 28, 2018, 11:37:54 PM It's hard to believe people go to such lengths to farm accounts. Except if there's a code-way of doing it... It's probably the most tedious and boring exercise - having to delete over a thousand posts (maybe).
I agree that a measure should be put in place to 'de-merit' or outright ban a de-ranked accounts. It's obvious why anyone would do such. Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: marlboroza on October 29, 2018, 12:08:36 AM Hero can be certainly demoted. I have a proof of it where Hero demoted itself just to take part in signature campaign to satisfy Merit requirement. I thought hero account can't be demoted, is this is something new?~ Account Ajpa94 was senior member, got 250 airdropped merit and received another 250 - and probably then removed all posts (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Ajpa94)Other account was hero member :-\ ffs fixing quote third time. Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 29, 2018, 08:45:09 AM Hero can be certainly demoted. I have a proof of it where Hero demoted itself just to take part in signature campaign to satisfy Merit requirement. I thought hero account can't be demoted, is this is something new?Not only Hero but Legendary too can be demoted. Here is one from Legendary to Hero > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=346430 And some investigation here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050054.msg47049965#msg47049965 Title: Re: The case of an account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: DdmrDdmr on October 29, 2018, 09:15:05 AM <...>I thought hero account can't be demoted, is this is something new? <...> There are multiple cases of de-ranked heroes and Legendries really that delete their posts and build up afterwards on their activity whilst preserving their merits. These are the ones I’ve got on the Dashboard that have additionally received sMerits at some point:Code: user_id name posts activity merit rank ProbableInitialRank url Title: Re: The case of one account with no posts and 250 merit Post by: coinlocket$ on October 29, 2018, 01:54:13 PM One another interesting case here
LES110_011 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1083199) bought/sold account? https://puu.sh/BSPgd/6c7b6ed94c.png https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=LES110_011 |
