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September 18, 2018, 05:33:37 PM Last edit: September 18, 2018, 05:46:47 PM by coinlocket$ |
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I was reading the forum and I came across this account romaleshc and I immediately noticed the fact that he had 250 merit and that he only had the rank of junior member. After careful investigation I can assume the account has been sold as we can see here https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=romaleshc. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FBx5Ae%2Fc38617c41f.png&t=665&c=BYvWJUr8zIARBg) Is there any tool to see the old post history of some people on the forum even if it is deleted? Probably this account has been sold as a senior member (with all posts deleted), he needs just to spam around the forum to get the rank since he already has the merit. @LoyceV can you check on scapped old posts?
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September 18, 2018, 05:46:54 PM |
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The user deleted about 500 posts http://archive.is/xNJ6BOne solution could be to visit this clone -thebitcointalk.net- and search for his/her username and so you will be able to find his/her posts Of course, don't try to log in in this forum edit: this forum didn't have the posts anymore, but there is another clone, so you may look at it too
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LoyceV
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September 18, 2018, 07:15:59 PM |
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Sorry, I can only scrape what still exists. Unfortunately I don't have the space to store all posts (although I've started this a few days ago, compressed posts excluding quotes only take 10 MB per day). I don't really see much harm in this: a spammer with less spam, how great is that! There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie. edit: this forum didn't have the posts anymore, but there is another clone, so you may look at it too I tried the other phishing site (through archive.is, because my PC can't access it) already, but it's gone there too.
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September 18, 2018, 07:20:54 PM |
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There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie.
Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie.
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September 18, 2018, 08:58:40 PM |
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There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie.
Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie. And that brings me to this question, won't it be nice when a member is deranked all the merit acquired will be stripped? I believe before anyone is deranked the person might have defaulted in one way or the other,
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September 18, 2018, 11:02:44 PM |
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I've seen this before with farmed accounts. By deleting the post history they can sell the account and re-use the previous posts to farm a new account without getting caught for plagiarism.
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September 18, 2018, 11:10:21 PM |
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I've seen this before with farmed accounts. By deleting the post history they can sell the account and re-use the previous posts to farm a new account without getting caught for plagiarism.
This is a big weakness that needs to be addressed.
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September 19, 2018, 09:20:17 PM |
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I've seen this before with farmed accounts. By deleting the post history they can sell the account and re-use the previous posts to farm a new account without getting caught for plagiarism.
This is a big weakness that needs to be addressed. I think noone would care if merits that belongs to deleted posts are just disappeared. But one thing that came into my mind in connection with this: If someone has created a proper topic and started a real conversation about a meaningful topic, and have received merit for it, but... Some shitposters have taken over the topic (because most of the topics are not self-moderated) and it became a spamfest, mods can delete the whole topic and the well deserved merit too... So it's not a solution, in the end, unfortunately...
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September 19, 2018, 10:12:38 PM |
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There are a few more accounts that self-deranked, I think one even went from Hero to Newbie.
Afaik, hero and legendary memberships are permanent even if the users deleted all his posts. Maybe he was a senior member then deranked to newbie. Hero can be certainly demoted. I have a proof of it where Hero demoted itself just to take part in signature campaign to satisfy Merit requirement. Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355801http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/355801.htmlhttps://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Hell-raiserSee, user earned only 15 merits but has total of 515 but currently a Senior Member. Did not find a legendary demoting itself, but I think it will be possible also.
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September 20, 2018, 05:21:07 AM |
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You are correct. It is possible to demote yourself from hero.
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September 20, 2018, 01:12:49 PM |
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You are correct. It is possible to demote yourself from hero. Clairvoyance...user knew he was going to self-destruct in 2018 while registering the account in 2016. Check the moniker.
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October 21, 2018, 11:27:36 AM |
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After reading the full discussion, i just need to understand one point; what issue in adjustment of the merit system by deleting awarded merits from users profiles when deleting matched posts? Demoting from Hero to Brand new is possible by deleting post history and upranking from noob to Legend will only depends on activities/posts but why merit points are statics ? Don't you think that this still help account traders and hackers ?
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October 21, 2018, 11:37:17 AM |
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I just wonder how they are able to remove all the traces. Normally someone somewhere should qoute you at least once for all those 500 comments. If they post only in one megathread and it gets deleted is the other option. Crazy...
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October 21, 2018, 12:09:14 PM |
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I just wonder how they are able to remove all the traces. Normally someone somewhere should qoute you at least once for all those 500 comments...
Put the user name in the search function to find out. E.g. do that for the above mentioned Kda2018 and you'll find out he claimed to have bought 100k of Pascal Coin. What use that info is, is another matter.
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October 21, 2018, 01:13:38 PM |
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I just wonder how they are able to remove all the traces. Normally someone somewhere should qoute you at least once for all those 500 comments. If they post only in one megathread and it gets deleted is the other option. Crazy...
They just start a new topic in the Off topic section and nobody will care if it will have 500 or more comments... As soon as it's done, they can delete the posts and nobody will miss those 500 comments... I always suggest to just totally delete the Off-topic section, because it's a sandbox for the spammers and account farmers... but I know that there are several meaningful posts in it and we just cannot delete those valuable thoughts ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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October 28, 2018, 11:37:54 PM |
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It's hard to believe people go to such lengths to farm accounts. Except if there's a code-way of doing it... It's probably the most tedious and boring exercise - having to delete over a thousand posts (maybe).
I agree that a measure should be put in place to 'de-merit' or outright ban a de-ranked accounts. It's obvious why anyone would do such.
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October 29, 2018, 12:08:36 AM |
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Hero can be certainly demoted. I have a proof of it where Hero demoted itself just to take part in signature campaign to satisfy Merit requirement.
I thought hero account can't be demoted, is this is something new? ~
Account Ajpa94 was senior member, got 250 airdropped merit and received another 250 - and probably then removed all posts ( https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Ajpa94) Other account was hero member ffs fixing quote third time.
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<...>I thought hero account can't be demoted, is this is something new? <...>
There are multiple cases of de-ranked heroes and Legendries really that delete their posts and build up afterwards on their activity whilst preserving their merits. These are the ones I’ve got on the Dashboard that have additionally received sMerits at some point: user_id name posts activity merit rank ProbableInitialRank url 80740 Wolf0 81 81 1002 Member Legendary https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=80740 25731 pafu 61 61 501 Member Hero Member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25731 102470 jimmyk 474 462 502 Sr. Member Hero Member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102470 105837 zeded 192 192 501 Full Member Hero Member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=105837 106374 deadsea33 31 31 560 Jr. Member Hero Member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106374 394503 ankylotic 479 479 501 Sr. Member Hero Member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=394503 828879 Kda2018 1 1 550 Newbie Hero Member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=828879
Note: Data as of last Friday.
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