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I actually got 2 old computers(that are way worse than laptop) But they dont really start up. So in order to buy them new  things to make them  work again it would be a huge investment for me(i am only 19 without a job currently).
Should i use  My laptop..? my friend told me that its a bad idea because it wont mine enough btc   and its just not worth.
 my laptop has these
8Gb Ram
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00GHz 2.60 GHz
64 bit...?
I am not an expert at this tbh . Any opinion/reply will be appreciated !! Thanks a lot

You certainly can mine, but it’s not worth doing so IMO. Mining usually means fans at full speed on most laptops as most laptops have horrible cooling, and if a fan happens to fail, it’s a hassle to find a replacement and install it. Plus, laptop CPUs are generally pretty underpowered for mining, and your (Haswell?) i7 is no exception. Even if you were to mine, I doubt you’d be making more than a dollar a month.

If you’re looking to make money, scout for jobs in the Services section. People are always looking for workers there, and you’ll likely get paid in crypto for completing a job.

First of all, that is proper less statement. It may work for a 7-9 year ago. Even when (BTC) replaced with (some altcoins name), but might it be a more acceptable statement than before. But both just the fastest way to blow your laptop if you were doing mining with that.

Will be better to follow the above advice. And you can collect some money from your followed projects to buy some mining hardware if you want to do mining.  8)

You might make 1-2 pennies per hour.
Not worth it.  Go get a job instead, better use of your time.
Then once you have some money saved, if you want to get into mining, build a RIG.
Its a great hobby, that will consume your ever waking hour.  ;D

A good thing to use the laptop for would be to use it as staking station.
Buy some PoS coins, install and unlock your wallets on that laptop and leave it on to stake 24/7. There, more profit than mining for less electricity and wear.

That is a better idea than doing mining using a laptop.  ;)

But it still isn't good enough choice, we were talking about the laptop that we know, isn't a wise way to running 24/7 except it is an unused laptop, and we don't care about what will gonna happen.

Laptop (PoW) mining? Nope. Nope.

OP, look at this forbidden sign from the experienced miner. ↓↓


I can say for sure, he was right. ^{101% agree!}

Laptop mining is the above criticism So I can't agree with other. If you want to do mining, first you have to register a account at any device.....

The components of a laptop naturally generate more heat than those of a desktop computer. If you put your laptop to mining it will even generate more heat than normal and in no time you will toast your processor easily.

You can only mine with your processor and it will make about 0.30 dollars daily or just a bit more. I don't think it is worth to brick your laptop only to mine pennies as that is what you will get by mining with a laptop device.

I would not mine with a laptop if you can help it.  As others have said, it is much harder to dissipate heat in a laptop and they end up working much harder than they need to.

This include CPU and GPU mining from a laptop.  In the long run, generally not worth it. You may be able to say your are profitable mining on a laptop, but there are much more efficient ways to mine.

However, if you just want to try mining to see what it is all about then you are fine!  I just wouldn't recommend leaving your laptop running 24/7.  Good luck.

setup mining biblepay and WCG: for laptop its OK  ;)

for mining BBP you can get 3 others coins, Byteball,Neumannium and Disitribute Chain Credit

I agree with half of your statement, about how to learn (only).

And the rest, for whatever reason (except you are using an unused laptop and you don't even care what will gonna happens) it's not a proper way of doing mining using a laptop. All the comment above says about technical and experience (that's not a theoretical view).

Since you have a U chip from intel, you wont really be able to mine. The laptop would go crazy and consistently throttle.

Sorry mate to tell you but you're a few years late Cheesy Mining bitcoins is only useful now using ASIC miners. You can learn more about them by googling antminer s9 or something. Instead mining on computers still exists BUT on GPUs. And I'm talking about mining altcoins like ethereum or zcash or whatever. If you've got some money and ready to invest into mining get into the Mining section and read some info.

It's not recommended to mining any coin with a laptop because the laptop is not designed to do a hard job like mining and besides that, the laptop can get heat for a long time if you stand by your laptop for mining. No matter how good your laptop, you are difficult to make any profit and don't think that you can be mining any coins that can give your profitable in one period. Maybe you can buy hardware or VGA so you can start mining with a new computer and vga inside but you need to think about the electricity fee.

Laptops and small devices (with little airflow) are not designed for constant processor threads and will get hot then possibly overheat, lift solder and all sorts of other heat damage can occur.

Of course, you could still mine with the machine, at a reduced rate, turn down affinity on CPU mining software or reduce the thread / footprint.

This is still a good way to take part, even if not at 100% - worth a go still  8)

And if you do use the machine for data intensive processes, make sure there is free space under the laptop for adequate airflow as many a time these machines have burnt out (with normal use) just because of being put on a table / sofa / bed and the vents blocked - the heat has to go somewhere and is better in than out!

If you want to lose your device
I have already tried mining on my machine and burned the screen card
There is not enough cooling in the laptop so you will definitely lose it

well, mining is definitely the essence of crypto. I'm also a guy that likes to use existing stuff and adapt it to a new use, but on this case you have to reason some facts...... first of all, BTC mining is different because the hashrate needed to gather some value is very high, people are using ASIC and even with these machines, some people are having trouble making is worth (depends on the price of the electricity)
Mining with a laptop, even if you point to new coins with almost no network, is something that will bring very few coins and will highly wear your machine... a stacking station as someone already said would be a much better idea, or maybe as an exit node for VPN, for example
If you want to be a real crypto miner, the best thing to do is taking it serious and gather a bit of money to buy some GPUs, a motherboard and get things going... you can even start with 1 GPU and go on from there...
cheers

It looks like you have just one chance. You can mine with the CPU shitcoins right at the start. You have to find a new coin, download wallet quickly, and start mining by the wallet. So you can find several blocks by this way. And later you can win if this coin would be on some exchange.

So, your advice is solo mining, right?
Then tried to mine from the genesis block (block 0), but I sure one day's mining isn't enough to collect enough coins (from block rewards) moreover if this coin isn't listed yet on the market. Let's says doing mining for three days - 1 week. Forcing laptop for doing the hardest task for three days event enough to destroy the laptop.  ;D

Not quite. Solo CPU mining using the wallet. The GPU mining really gives no profit, but using laptop in my way - you can find several blocks with nice reward. The main trouble is to start one of the first.

Basically, you are wrong.

First
That will work if you find cpu based coins (and you don't mention it). Nice block rewards (as you said) means nothing if the coin isn't listed yet in the market, and that's not for OP (that new in the mining and need to get money as fast as he can). And your way doesn't decrease the risk related to mining using a laptop.

Second


What can I say?  ;D  :D

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That's also applied to every mining device when you were solo mining started when genesis block launched (and I assume that the coin just mined by a few miners)

No I tryed to mine with my laptop and I would not recommend it, it's really a bad idea.
Better ideas for laptops are POS mining and to set up an own masternode!

You can try to look up honeyminer. It is designed for newbies.

You can also try to mine new CPU-only coins like Lapo https://app.lapo.io/?ref=YqWIq4kqPN (https://app.lapo.io/?ref=YqWIq4kqPN) until the GPUs arrive. It will be low return at first but the returns might be gigantic.

My laptop death after cpu mining. Don't follow me. Yes, you can mine, do with your own risk.

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That's the way to do it. If you're looking for a specific altcoin/shitcoin to start mining with an 8gb cpu look no further than the cryptoknight algo coins. My favorite is XAO, Alloy. All you have to do is download the qt wallet and press. "start mining." My old work pc (circa 2005) mines about 130 XAO/week, Or about 3900 satoshi/week. Not getting rich by any means, but I get the satisfaction of sticking it to the man.

Try to read more attentively.
1. I wrote Solo CPU mining using the wallet. You can read smth about wallet commands to understand what it means. Or you can try to find CPU based coins.
2. Ok, mine with laptop GPU. Good luck with it.

Yay...!
I can say nothing, I swear.
Maybe you were right. I need to read something today, but I bit confuse what to read, you gave me the reference.  ;D  ;D

i cant recomeded you for mining using laptop, because its realy not worth for your time, and with your spec, you can use your cpu for start mining and calculation for future.

As your friend said. Mining with laptop is a bad idea, you won't earn much and it will literature literally damage your laptop. However, since you're yet to have knowledge about the mining system, I will advice you to try and improve your account ranking so you can join bounty or signature campaign while you learn more about mining of crypto currency.

 Not worth it.  As others have mentioned there are other ways to acquire crypto, like participating in bounties and other campaigns.  If that is what you want to do I suggest you get on Twitter.  If you want to try your hand at mining you can learn on the laptops without having to invest in expensive mining hardware. 

I seems not to understand your English every well cause what I knew is that mine through laptop or desktop computer are also GPU mining. Are you advising the OP to start by mining coins which are yet to reach exchange through his laptop just like in the early days of Bitcoin? If that's the case I will consider it as a good idea.

I mined Merit for a few weeks on my medium level gaming laptop. Didn’t earn a ton of coins but it was fun and they just released a slick new wallet that makes mining a breeze.

Pm me for more details and use t0ny to get your wallet unlocked!

It seems so. I wrote CPU mining and i dont understand what is incomprehensible here. Can u understand the difference between GPU and CPU?
And yes, with laptop the only chance to get nice profit is to mine coins without exchange yet.
   

it's not really worth mining with your laptop.
if you still insist then do go ahead and find some cpu based coins to mine but don't be expecting groundbreaking returns.

i would believe, you can gain more from selling your laptop rather than mining

I supported what you said but base on the OP standard concerning mining issues. I will advice him/hervto start new altcoin which are holding some ICO or which are yet to hit the market cause most miners don't usually focus in those coins but I will need another laptop (HP envy) to do that

Well like you, I have a desktop the same specs as yours and a Samsung laptop, and I used them to mine Ethereum and Monero last December 11, 2017, via minergate.com, up to 1st week of February this year, then I stopped it. Why? It's not profitable because of the electricity cost, the worse part I can no longer use my laptop, it totally blackout and according to 'repair technician' it's beyond economical repair. You can google it anyway if it's profitable to mine crypto with a laptop or desktop, or simply google, cryptocurrency mining by laptop or cryptocurrency mining desktop.

It's funny how this question gets asked here almost on a weekly basis :D. The answer to laptop mining is rather No. Laptops are good for what they are meant to be - portable computers. So the weight and size are really important factors here. You cannot really throw a lot of cooling into the laptop without bulking it up too much.

No sufficient cooling for long periods of time = fried components.

It's simple, you can definitely mine using a laptop, but you definitely won't get any profit at all, instead, you'll get a good loss.

BTW, I seriously wish that newbies start to use that "search" button before posting anything like this again; but oh well, not every wish comes true!

Listen to your friend yet he do actually know on whats the best for you because he's already aware on such things and he do already have the experience. Mining to that crappy laptop wont really give good profits not only on mining bitcoin but even mining on altcoins will still be unprofitable.You are just basically wasting up your time and resources. Dont bother to buy any parts for the sake on making those old computers work because it would be still useless. Better to buy a coin with your money and then hold it.

It is quite funny that no matter what we say here in this thread, some people want to do this anyway.  :D

I say go for It!

Laptops usually have a good efficiency. Even if It's not profitable It would be fun to try It.

Your CPU should be good at cryptonight lite V1. I recommend you JCE miner. Take a look at aeon, turtlecoin and plenteum. You can mine these cryptos with your CPU.

It' probably not a good idea to mine with a laptop, I advise you to try bounty/airdrop, can be done with a laptop and will bring far more coins, good luck

Yes, it is not recommended for mining using a laptop. It can make that laptop too heat, and in the end, it will blow the processor or anything inside the laptop. And if you still want to mine, then I suggest you buy the hardware or buy a new computer with any VGA inside that computer, and you should buy a lot of VGA so you can earn big rewards.

makes sense, this could work.
maybe perhaps finding new coins and mining them on alternate weeks or something along that line.
cool concept but yeah need some effort into research but should be fine.

Damn..you right.  :D
I made a few comments here (in this thread), just for the simple word "NO". In the end, I'm tired even just for say NO.  ::)

As of today you should actually forget about it. You will end up reducing your laptops hardware lifetime and even damage it to beyond repairable state. Mining is a very intensive activity. You laptop won't be able to handle it and lets not forget about the heating. You will end up damaging your laptop by overheating it. The power you will be consuming will also not be worth the few cents you will be mining every month. Better get proper mining equipment and save your laptop.

agree with this.

in conclusion, it's more worth to really invest in proper machines to yield even more profits and faster too..

After reading thru this thread it would appear that many don't know their hiney from a hole in the ground about CPU mining. The correct answer is YES you can use your laptop to mine however, that does not mean you should join a Bitcoin mining pool. You will need to concentrate on CPU mineable coins and algorithms only and trade those for Bitcoin at an exchange. Example algos: HODL, Yesscrypt, Argon2d and spin offs, and a few more. Mine CPU only coins and you can profit. Of course you can mine some of the cryptonight algos and neoscrypt BUT, you will be competing against GPU cards and ASICs, so stick to competing with other CPU miners instead.

Your hardware determines which algo works best for you, so let's start by looking at your i7-4510U cpu. It's a 15 watt CPU that supports all the required instruction sets to mine HODL, ROI, Unitus and other CPU coins very well. That particular i7 supports the AVX2 instruction set which is great. There are CPU miner programs that take advantage of AVX, AVX2, SSE,SSE3, SSE4.2, AES, and a few other CPU instruction sets, your CPU supports all of them. For mining software I'd start with a google search for "cpuminer-opt-3.8.8.1-windows" and use the program's AVX2 start exe file for most CPU coins. Your CPU will probably also do around 130+ H/s mining Cryptonight Heavy, but it's a GPU coin so you'll be competing with them.

Cooling can be an issue for older laptops so make sure you have cleaned out the cooling vents with an air duster so everything is clear for good airflow. A $20 cooling pad for it to sit on is also a good idea but not required. The algo you choose will also determine how much electricity used and how much heat the CPU will put out. This is an important consideration. HODL algos like ROI coin run warmer than Argon2d like Unitus Coin. You'll also notice a much higher hashrate on Argon2d algos as well using the AVX2.exe start file. The coin you choose depends largely on your CPU supported instruction sets so you have a choice of any of the CPU coins as your i7-4510U has the required instruction sets for all of them.

Forget about solo mining. Join a pool. Solo mining only works for brand new coins over the first few thousand blocks, it becomes almost impossible to get a solo block briefly after the coin goes live. Suprnova pool has few CPU coins like ROI, HODL etc. That's where I'd start.

Mining is all about return vs cost of electricity. Your 15 watt i7-4510U is not gonna pull much electricity while mining so you should be in the green already. I wouldn't run out and buy brand new laptops for mining mind you, but mining is a perfect application and use for older equipment that was just sitting in the corner.

The same guys that are losing $2+ a day mining with a S9 Antminer will try to tell you not to CPU mine. LMAO, sure you may not get rich overnight mining CPU coins but you certainly aren't in the negative as they already are..........The main thing to remember and consider is to stick with CPU coins only and you'll be in the green.

If you need any help with start batch files or anything else, just message me and I'll be glad to help. I don't claim to be an expert but I do make a profit mining CPU coins.

Chris B.