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Title: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on September 24, 2018, 01:17:12 PM
Orinigally published - https://medium.com/@shitcoinofferin/securix-ico-scam-33e907a8072c (https://medium.com/@shitcoinofferin/securix-ico-scam-33e907a8072c)

Securix ICO founders are just some dudes without any background in crypto. So how the hell are they involved in mining and a project worth 55 million bucks?
Meet Securix ICO Shitadvisors — Navlin Kapoor (Swiss Alps Mining Shitadvisor) and Giovanni Cassagrande (Swachhcoin and other scams)
The idea is the same as Swiss Alps Mining (our regular Shitcoin Reader’s Digest has already exposed this scammy ICO): set up mining centers in places with cheap electricity (either in Swiss Alps or Netherlands) and the deal is on. Investors will get their profit in the beginning of next year (perfect timing, when Ethereum is usually dying and Bitcoin hits rock bottom). Come on, you must be insane to promise that! It’s as if these guys are at a casino, where you gotta play roulette to win. Btw, one of the founders is an ex-croupier. No surprise, here’s the proof: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damian-strauss-b810b6111/
The project’s Github doesn’t give us a single clue about what’s going on. Of course, they’re buying mining hardware, but where are all those smart contracts and e-wallets? If they exist at all.
The profit calculator is ridiculous! Now you know what SEC in SECurix stands for, ’cause you can actually go to jail for this shit!
Do not invest under ANY circumstances!
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Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on September 28, 2018, 11:21:25 AM
Look at the pictures of their faces.
200% photoshop

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcryptoconsulting.info%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F07%2Fimage43.jpg

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcryptoconsulting.info%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F07%2Fimage19-e1532555962323.jpg

The ANN is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4744419


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Astargath on September 28, 2018, 12:25:15 PM

Hey chill, they just wanted to look better :)

Shows how stupid these ico sites are: https://icobench.com/ico/securix  ''10 expert ratings'' and they think it's a 4.3 which is really high for ICOBench, who are these experts anyways?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Hellmouth42 on September 28, 2018, 04:41:29 PM
Conflict of interest: I am the translator for the Securix Bounty campaign.
However, those who read me here know that I do not hesitate to denounce scams if I find them (for the anecdote, I was designated translator for Aircraft, lol)

On the French Section, on September 9 Saint Loup, one of the members of our community, , explained his doubts about the photos (obviously retouched) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4956966.msg45418848#msg45418848

This argument being admissible (and not wanting to work for an ICO scam), I "investigated":
(The original post is in French, I translated it roughly)

Hello Saint Loup,

so I also made the point (and the team check, it's even systematically my first reflex when faced with a project)
But I found other indicators that gave me some confidence (I already wrote it, you have to consider a cluster of presumption rather than a single element).

Of course, thanks to our exchanges (and I thank you for that!) I have gone much further now!

That's why I went a little further on Damian Strauss' CV, noting that the elements he put forward on his biography were corroborated by other sources
(so, that doesn't allow us to have a definitive opinion either. It is always possible to manipulate the data and create digital traces to make a profile credible, but at this stage we talk about spying, and no ICO scammer 8)).

Anyway, the photoshoping of the image is indeed blatant
, just like for other team members (same background, same "style", if you can call it that).

This element must encourage caution,you are right to point it out.

Besides (but I didn't push this path very much), this photo of Damian Strauss seems to be the most easily available on the Internet.

As a result, your question prompted me to take a little more interest in the other members of the team, and more particularly those who were victims of the graphic palette.

Sascha Bouman


"Business Manager", same kind of image processing, same background.

https://i.imgur.com/BVj8Qv7.png

In real, him and hi tatoo, here:

https://dapperebritt.wordpress.com/2016/08/30/sascha-bouman-brengt-fantasy-village-naar-vlaardingen/
https://i.imgur.com/pbRjbfy.png

Jac Donkersloot

Securix CEO.

He also presents a "suspicious" photo (it's the same on his Linkedin)
https://i.imgur.com/MVwp440.png

We find him here, with the same head, a little less vandalized:

https://myopportunity.com/profile/jac-donkersloot/nw

https://i.imgur.com/jVjf1tZ.png

But especially on this page, which I have just discovered and which relates the different steps of Securix
https://insta-stalker.com/post/BmhxVCXgbHh/

https://i.imgur.com/JPDXNW2.png


A back photo, not very convincing but it was on September 6th, 3 days ago during a visit of the future premises.
They have nevertheless invested a lot of effort to make their scam credible, you have to recognize them at least that!   ;)

https://i.imgur.com/R3A3r5g.png

Oh, cherry on the cake we see someone in the cornerwho really looks a lot like Damian... :D
https://i.imgur.com/HEGLFs4.png

I only do checks on these 2, it seems to me to be more than enough (I did checks on Bredan Stad with the same success, I don't publish it, I didn't do anything else, I didn't do the other members please have fun if you want).

I stop there the investigations Saint Loup, after having spent a few hours there, I do not find the slightest tangible element (other than an impression like as you said "it smells like shit") which allows me to doubt the reality of this ICO (and the elements it puts forward: real estate procedures, addresses, identities, amount of funds...)

On the contrary, I even discovered (once again thanks to you!) additional elements that Securix did not use in its communication and that tend to make them credible![/b]

I don't understand Saint Loup's arguments.
To summarize:

- YES the photos are retouched
- NO, it is not enough to characterize a scam (no identity theft, no digital ID creation) it's just UGLY!

I have already answered these "arguments" 2 weeks ago (and others of the same level by the way)

This does not prevent this member from insisting and I would like to understand the reason for this persistence
(as I have already told him - but he does not read me - if I discovered a single real reason to suspect SECURIX of fraud, I myself would immediately proceed with the scam report, and it is still valid)



Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on September 28, 2018, 05:13:05 PM
It's your opinion, but you still don't know WHY they did that.
IMO I think it was for hidding their faces because I don't recognize Donkersloot neither Bouman.

This does not prevent this member from insisting and I would like to understand the reason for this persistence
(as I have already told him - but he does not read me -
The subject is about the Securix ICO, not me. I don't sell anything. Thank you.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Hellmouth42 on September 28, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
It's your opinion, but you still don't know WHY they did that.


From the moment it is demonstrated (not supposed, demonstrated) that behind these photos the individuals are real, have backcgrounds, have left many digital traces... explain to me how the answer to this question has some interest? (I anticipate: to appear "more beautiful", more "credible" from a marketing point of view - failed, therefore - ? , follow the advice of their communication manager? etc...)

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IMO I think it was for hidding their faces because I don't recognize Donkersloot and Bouman.
We're agree "your opinion"....
Now, I admit I don't know what to tell you... ::)
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The subject is about the Securix ICO, not me. I don't sell anything. Thank you.

Yes, you are selling your hypothesis (and that's quite respectable)

Now, what you do is more and more like a form of harassment (whether here, or on the French forum). And I repeat, I don't "defend" Securix because I did their translation BUT because I know him better now.
If the project was rotten, I would abandon it without regret.

But I consider it unfair to compromise the efforts of a team with such weak arguments
(and when I talk about compromising, I am of course thinking of the FUD that this kind of debate provokes, the associations of keywords on search engines, etc...)


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on September 28, 2018, 05:59:59 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on September 28, 2018, 06:10:56 PM
But I consider it unfair to compromise the efforts of a team with such weak arguments
(and when I talk about compromising, I am of course thinking of the FUD that this kind of debate provokes, the associations of keywords on search engines, etc...)
And you don't care about investors? Bitcointalk users? And the crypto market, falling since many months because of dozens of scams?

New Study Says 80 Percent of ICOs Conducted in 2017 Were Scams
https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Hellmouth42 on September 28, 2018, 06:16:50 PM
But I consider it unfair to compromise the efforts of a team with such weak arguments
(and when I talk about compromising, I am of course thinking of the FUD that this kind of debate provokes, the associations of keywords on search engines, etc...)
And you don't care about investors? Bitcointalk users? And the crypto market, falling since many months because of dozens of scams?

New Study Says 80 Percent of ICOs Conducted in 2017 Were Scams
https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams

Once again, some random ad hominem attack
do you really think I don't care?

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693388.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4674471.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4656917.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032935.0


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: marlboroza on September 28, 2018, 11:02:17 PM
But I consider it unfair to compromise the efforts of a team with such weak arguments
(and when I talk about compromising, I am of course thinking of the FUD that this kind of debate provokes, the associations of keywords on search engines, etc...)
And you don't care about investors? Bitcointalk users? And the crypto market, falling since many months because of dozens of scams?

New Study Says 80 Percent of ICOs Conducted in 2017 Were Scams
https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams
I see 2 verified advisors by icobench(I suppose they are doing KYC as they claim), founder's you tube video, another founder https://www.linkedin.com/in/jac-donkersloot-78831592/ has this in his linkedin:

Quote
Founder and CEO
Company Name SECURIX.IO
Dates Employed Jan 2018 – Present
Employment Duration 9 mos
Location Dubai

SECURIX.IO -
NEXT GENERATION OF MINING

I am not sure why advisors were asked to do KYC test. edited* founders have passed icobench's kyc test.

Probably this is much better:

https://i.imgur.com/0c5bj1d.png

I completely forgot about this:

Nice building you have there.

Can you explain how 1055 m2 for rent become 10500 m2 on 3 floors?

Also why number on that building is edited? I am pretty sure I saw numbers 17 and 19, what happened to number 17?


People on video, who are they? I couldn't identify any of them as your team members. They seems...static.

Your total ROI in 12 months, 178% - is not sustainable.

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Our monthly reinvestment strategy will result in both higher value and output per token

A: Repurchase SRXIO tokens from the market and burn them.
B: Purchase new hardware and improve our facility and infrastructure


How much money will I earn if I invest 10000$ and compound it for next 5 years?



Hello,

1: That is an older picture where a little unit was for rent, we can use up to 3 floors.
About the numbers 17/19, in The Netherlands you can make multiple units inside a location each unit will have their own building number. This means that if this building has 10 units, it will result in 10 unit numbers which can be 17a, 17b, 17c, 18a, 18b, 18c and so on.

The people on the video are us, you can identify us at those video’s they zoom in on our faces as well. We will upload our introduction video’s on YouTube + on our white paper which you can view at https://www.securix.io (https://www.securix.io) you can see our team plus their LinkedIn profiles links.
We strive for full transparency so here are the inside pictures as well with us inside of the location.

https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION.jpg
https://mvp.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION1.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION2.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION3.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION4.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION5.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION6.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION7.jpg

2: The return on investment is sustainable, the crypto mining thrives. The 178% you just mentioned is including the bonus, we gave the option to look without bonus as well. We at Securix have opted to show different scenario’s to the investors because the Bitcoin price determines the return on investment. That results in that you can personalize your sentiment on the market and check out the different return on investment scenario’s. When the Bitcoin price moves up, you earn more. When the Bitcoin price moves down you earn less. Simple and transparent.

3: The re-investment strategy. This is an important part to increase your investment, we have an buyback and burning program which results in a smaller token pool and higher output per token and token value will increase due to scarcity. Or we choose to acquire new mining hardware, these new machines will create a bigger output at the end of each month. So even after your investment Securix is busy to create added value and your token will have a greater output and rise in value.

4: How much will I earn in 5 years? We’ve given % of ROI so you can calculate out what you can expect. We have as well pointed out the market and mining challenges as described in the white paper white paper  https://securix.io/marketing/page%2044%20risk%20and%20regulations.pdf (https://securix.io/marketing/page%2044%20risk%20and%20regulations.pdf). A lot of factors are in play, with the mining market keep in mind that the founders and management are a large stake holder in the mining operation. So every decision will be in the best interest of the token holders as they are token holders as well.

The Founders tokens are locked from 30 November 2018 till 30 November 2019. Starting from November  2019 the Founders will receive each month 5% tokens from their 15%.

If you still have questions, please feel free to ask them.

Securix Team


This is their location http://www.industrieelpand.nl/ space was/is? for rent. I have tried to reach them, but they didn't respond on email  ::)

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That is an older picture where a little unit was for rent, we can use up to 3 floors.
It doesn't make any sense to show old picture.

Quote
The return on investment is sustainable
Quote
The re-investment strategy
Quote
How much will I earn in 5 years? We’ve given % of ROI so you can calculate out what you can expect.

Sustainable ROI with reinvestment strategy, reinvesting for next 5 years with current btc price I will have 300000$ with initial 10000$ investment. Sounds like easy risk free passive income.

How do we call this in this space?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: marlboroza on September 28, 2018, 11:29:48 PM
Watch securix video:

https://youtu.be/GCBR5dxyEXY?t=10

https://i.imgur.com/TNSFAIQ.png

I don't know what this is, but there is sign on that building, it says "baru services":

https://i.imgur.com/1XadvU1.png

Baru services is company https://www.baru.nl  located on that address:

Blokweg 19, 4761 RA Zevenbergen,

And this looks like something from video:

https://i.imgur.com/qR9gfKG.png

Maybe it is time to call securix team to this topic?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: ICOEthics on September 28, 2018, 11:54:02 PM
Watch securix video:

https://youtu.be/GCBR5dxyEXY?t=10


I don't know what this is, but there is sign on that building, it says "baru services":


Baru services is company https://www.baru.nl  located on that address:

Blokweg 19, 4761 RA Zevenbergen,

And this looks like something from video:


Maybe it is time to call securix team to this topic?

Will check and let you know.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Hellmouth42 on September 29, 2018, 01:00:08 AM

Maybe it is time to call securix team to this topic?

Absolutely, only the team is now in a position to remove existing doubts.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on September 29, 2018, 09:31:29 AM

https://i.imgur.com/0c5bj1d.png

Sustainable ROI with reinvestment strategy, reinvesting for next 5 years with current btc price I will have 300000$ with initial 10000$ investment. Sounds like easy risk free passive income.

How do we call this in this space?
With only green energy "from solar and wind"...
https://www.linkedin.com/company/securix-io/


Moreover they state that only 28% of each mined BTC will pay electricity.
https://securix.io/assets/02.png
With BTC at $6500, it means they will only pay 1820$ per BTC for electricity (and $1400 at $5000)

However, this study released few months ago claims it costs $9449 in electricity to mine 1 btc in Netherlands.(not even with green electricity)
https://www.elitefixtures.com/blog/post/2683/bitcoin-mining-costs-by-country/


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:11:09 PM

Dear Saint loup,

You are spreading around FUD!!! These are portret pictures made by an professional photographer. People have done research to our past, in our white paper our company license number are there to be checked.

LinkedIn profiles are online, multiple interviews have been given, multiple events have been attended to.


Please stop acting destructive, especially when it comes to our company. You are the one HURTING our community.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
It's your opinion, but you still don't know WHY they did that.
IMO I think it was for hidding their faces because I don't recognize Donkersloot neither Bouman.

This does not prevent this member from insisting and I would like to understand the reason for this persistence
(as I have already told him - but he does not read me -
The subject is about the Securix ICO, not me. I don't sell anything. Thank you.

Hello,

The pictures have been made by a professional, but please before you than instantly make conclusions?? Check out our personal social media accounts:

Jacobus Donkersloot:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jac-donkersloot-78831592/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jac-donkersloot-78831592/)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nwcool77/ (https://www.instagram.com/nwcool77/)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jac.donkersloot (https://www.facebook.com/jac.donkersloot)

Damian Strauss:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damian-strauss-b810b6111/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/damian-strauss-b810b6111/)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dezolution/ (https://www.instagram.com/dezolution/)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Damianstrauss94 (https://www.facebook.com/Damianstrauss94)

All our team members, have these socials in place. Feel free to check them out.

We keep transparency in highest regards, if you still have questions feel free to ask them.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

 


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:46:01 PM

https://i.imgur.com/0c5bj1d.png

Sustainable ROI with reinvestment strategy, reinvesting for next 5 years with current btc price I will have 300000$ with initial 10000$ investment. Sounds like easy risk free passive income.

How do we call this in this space?
With only green energy "from solar and wind"...
https://www.linkedin.com/company/securix-io/


Moreover they state that only 28% of each mined BTC will pay electricity.
https://securix.io/assets/02.png
With BTC at $6500, it means they will only pay 1820$ per BTC for electricity (and $1400 at $5000)

However, this study released few months ago claims it costs $9449 in electricity to mine 1 btc in Netherlands.(not even with green electricity)
https://www.elitefixtures.com/blog/post/2683/bitcoin-mining-costs-by-country/

Hello Saint Loup,

You can not compare consumer prices with industrial energy usage. When you are an industrial grade energy user, the tax over your usage will become lower. The indication price of energy in the Netherlands is 0.05 eurocent per KWH.

We have something very unique in The Netherlands, TenneT which is government owned released the electricity grid a couple of years ago to ensure that there is enough competition on the energy market. With the EAN-2-EAN platform we buy directly our energy from the green generator, with this system we cut out the intermediary.

The green generator sells higher and we buy even lower. In The Netherlands you have negative energy prices as well due to over supply and less demand from the market, here we are at Securix we buy the excess energy.

We believe in sustainability, profitability and responsibility can go hand in hand.

Please watch our video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQSNYavt_W4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQSNYavt_W4)

If you still have questions feel free to ask them!

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
Watch securix video:

https://youtu.be/GCBR5dxyEXY?t=10


I don't know what this is, but there is sign on that building, it says "baru services":


Baru services is company https://www.baru.nl  located on that address:

Blokweg 19, 4761 RA Zevenbergen,

And this looks like something from video:


Maybe it is time to call securix team to this topic?

Will check and let you know.

Hello,

Yes, BARU services are the owner of the building they are making the Nautical equipment for the shipping Industry.

If you still have questions feel free to ask them,

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:52:49 PM
But I consider it unfair to compromise the efforts of a team with such weak arguments
(and when I talk about compromising, I am of course thinking of the FUD that this kind of debate provokes, the associations of keywords on search engines, etc...)
And you don't care about investors? Bitcointalk users? And the crypto market, falling since many months because of dozens of scams?

New Study Says 80 Percent of ICOs Conducted in 2017 Were Scams
https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams

Hello Saint Loup,

Yes, many of them are failing and/or are scams. We are not in any way comparable with a scam of any kind..

Our whole team is in the White paper, we've done interviews, we do events. It would make no sense right, with the allegations you made to us. Keep in mind that these allegations are very serious and we take them up very high in our team.

I would say as a community member myself, that it would be in the best interest to verify a project or call them out. it has always be in the good of the discussion, this to protect the community. I strongly believe that you must fight for the legit projects like Securix out there as well.

It is our fiduciary duty, if you still have questions feel free to ask them. I am sure I can answer them all.

The Securix team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:54:29 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 29, 2018, 06:57:07 PM

Hey chill, they just wanted to look better :)

Shows how stupid these ico sites are: https://icobench.com/ico/securix  ''10 expert ratings'' and they think it's a 4.3 which is really high for ICOBench, who are these experts anyways?

Hello,

Hahaha, well everybody wants to look good right =). ICOBench is just the most visited site, we have gotten so far 10 experts rating which they provide a brief review. We always encourage our community members to do good research about Securix.io and what we are about.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: marlboroza on September 29, 2018, 09:00:07 PM
if you still have questions feel free to ask them. I am sure I can answer them all.

I loved how you incorporated an ROI calculator on your website. This is something that you don?t see with other projects. Excellent idea!
We’re glad you loved it. We aim for transparency with everyone who wishes to be a part of the community. This way you see how your investment will look like in time.
Are you part of the team?

How about explaining what pneumatic company is doing in your video?

Hi Marlboroza,

The owners of the facility make this equipment for the nautic industry. They have the middle section of the building.
Your answer to question what pneumatic company is doing in video is "they have the middle section of the building."
It doesn't make any sense to make video of pneumatic company to promote your project. Only thing I see in that video is pneumatic company.

We strive for full transparency so here are the inside pictures as well with us inside of the location.

https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION.jpg
https://mvp.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION1.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION2.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION3.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION4.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION5.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION6.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION7.jpg

Have you made these photos yourself:

https://i.imgur.com/SyCYYEQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RzS3ehO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XCXNVlg.jpg

Because I can find the same pictures here http://www.industrieelpand.nl

https://i.imgur.com/irrhyx4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bOtR7ne.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nduZIXa.jpg

I suppose this is correct building, because in the middle there is baru services and behind there is R3B https://r3b.eu/nl/ , right? :

https://i.imgur.com/u4PNVmM.png

https://www.ilocate.nl/details/huur-zevenbergen-blokweg-19-4761-ra isn't that less than 10000 m2?



Ok, just one more question - when was video created?

https://i.imgur.com/L2FIT7W.png

Looking at this site https://www.ilocate.nl/details/huur-zevenbergen-blokweg-19-4761-ra shouldn't there be another building:

https://i.imgur.com/RcgbQOP.jpg

To be honest I don't quite understand picture, because on the same site I have found this picture:

https://i.imgur.com/ASGfFF1.jpg

I would say pictures are identical except for that building(cars, bots, everything outside is exactly on the same place)

Anyway, here is another picture with new building:

https://i.imgur.com/t4BEz4L.jpg


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: asche on September 30, 2018, 09:07:04 AM


Hello Saint Loup,

You can not compare consumer prices with industrial energy usage. When you are an industrial grade energy user, the tax over your usage will become lower. The indication price of energy in the Netherlands is 0.05 eurocent per KWH.

We have something very unique in The Netherlands, TenneT which is government owned released the electricity grid a couple of years ago to ensure that there is enough competition on the energy market. With the EAN-2-EAN platform we buy directly our energy from the green generator, with this system we cut out the intermediary.

The green generator sells higher and we buy even lower. In The Netherlands you have negative energy prices as well due to over supply and less demand from the market, here we are at Securix we buy the excess energy.

We believe in sustainability, profitability and responsibility can go hand in hand.

Please watch our video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQSNYavt_W4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQSNYavt_W4)

If you still have questions feel free to ask them!

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

The EAN-2-EAN is a concept you created yourself. It has no industrial existence.
Also "buying the excess energy" is complete nonsense. If you buy it, it isn't excess energy anymore. Developped countries like the NL are adapting their production means in real time to match the needs connected to the grid.
They would stop production on several sites rather than selling @negative prices, to prevent extra wear on equipment.

There is absolutely nothing convincing in your answer.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 30, 2018, 09:07:54 AM
if you still have questions feel free to ask them. I am sure I can answer them all.

I loved how you incorporated an ROI calculator on your website. This is something that you don?t see with other projects. Excellent idea!
We’re glad you loved it. We aim for transparency with everyone who wishes to be a part of the community. This way you see how your investment will look like in time.
Are you part of the team?

How about explaining what pneumatic company is doing in your video?

Hi Marlboroza,

The owners of the facility make this equipment for the nautic industry. They have the middle section of the building.
Your answer to question what pneumatic company is doing in video is "they have the middle section of the building."
It doesn't make any sense to make video of pneumatic company to promote your project. Only thing I see in that video is pneumatic company.

We strive for full transparency so here are the inside pictures as well with us inside of the location.

https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION.jpg
https://mvp.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION1.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION2.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION3.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION4.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION5.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION6.jpg
https://MVP.securix.io/INSIDELOCATION7.jpg

Have you made these photos yourself:

https://i.imgur.com/SyCYYEQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RzS3ehO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XCXNVlg.jpg

Because I can find the same pictures here http://www.industrieelpand.nl

https://i.imgur.com/irrhyx4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bOtR7ne.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nduZIXa.jpg

I suppose this is correct building, because in the middle there is baru services and behind there is R3B https://r3b.eu/nl/ , right? :

https://i.imgur.com/u4PNVmM.png

https://www.ilocate.nl/details/huur-zevenbergen-blokweg-19-4761-ra isn't that less than 10000 m2?



Ok, just one more question - when was video created?

https://i.imgur.com/L2FIT7W.png

Looking at this site https://www.ilocate.nl/details/huur-zevenbergen-blokweg-19-4761-ra shouldn't there be another building:

https://i.imgur.com/RcgbQOP.jpg

To be honest I don't quite understand picture, because on the same site I have found this picture:

https://i.imgur.com/ASGfFF1.jpg

I would say pictures are identical except for that building(cars, bots, everything outside is exactly on the same place)

Anyway, here is another picture with new building:

https://i.imgur.com/t4BEz4L.jpg

Hello Marlboroza,

BARU Services which is owner of the building as well has the middle section. They could as well store their buoys outside, like they have but it was really cool to let them there. They have no interest in promoting our company, because they are not related in any fashion to the company.

Some of the pictures we have made ourselves, some we got from Peter from BARU. The drone footage was shot May. We got to talk to each other and came to the conclusion that we can utilise a lot more space than they had initially offered to the open market. Depending on the crowdsale we have the option to rent everything they are not using. They have a lot of outside terrain where they can store their goods.

The other founder Jac Donkersloot made even some video's inside the location. He posted them on his own Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnVzOiqiMjS/?taken-by=nwcool77 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BnVzOiqiMjS/?taken-by=nwcool77) & https://www.instagram.com/p/BnY2HyFgeQC/?taken-by=nwcool77 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BnY2HyFgeQC/?taken-by=nwcool77).

We make as well video's of the events we attend to, we made a live video of the presentation Jac did at the Agora event: https://www.facebook.com/securixmarketing/videos/1893455120950305/ (https://www.facebook.com/securixmarketing/videos/1893455120950305/).

If you still have questions, remarks or doubts feel free to contact us!

Kind regards,

The Securix team



Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 30, 2018, 09:15:16 AM


Hello Saint Loup,

You can not compare consumer prices with industrial energy usage. When you are an industrial grade energy user, the tax over your usage will become lower. The indication price of energy in the Netherlands is 0.05 eurocent per KWH.

We have something very unique in The Netherlands, TenneT which is government owned released the electricity grid a couple of years ago to ensure that there is enough competition on the energy market. With the EAN-2-EAN platform we buy directly our energy from the green generator, with this system we cut out the intermediary.

The green generator sells higher and we buy even lower. In The Netherlands you have negative energy prices as well due to over supply and less demand from the market, here we are at Securix we buy the excess energy.

We believe in sustainability, profitability and responsibility can go hand in hand.

Please watch our video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQSNYavt_W4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQSNYavt_W4)

If you still have questions feel free to ask them!

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

The EAN-2-EAN is a concept you created yourself. It has no industrial existence.
Also "buying the excess energy" is complete nonsense. If you buy it, it isn't excess energy anymore. Developped countries like the NL are adapting their production means in real time to match the needs connected to the grid.
They would stop production on several sites rather than selling @negative prices, to prevent extra wear on equipment.

There is absolutely nothing convincing in your answer.

Hello Asche,

The EAN-2-EAN platform has been created not by us, we are using it. It gives us the opportunity to buy directly from the generator instead of going to the energy company. In Germany you have negative energy prices, in The Netherlands you have negative energy prices. So that is absolutely not true.

Look at the energy index prices: https://www.epexspot.com/en/market-data/elix (https://www.epexspot.com/en/market-data/elix) and https://www.epexspot.com/en/market-data/elix/chart/index-chart/2018-09-30/EU (https://www.epexspot.com/en/market-data/elix/chart/index-chart/2018-09-30/EU).

We encourage discussions, but we rather stick to the facts. If you still have questions, remarks or doubts feel free to ask them!

Kind regards,

The Securix team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Ciidoctor on September 30, 2018, 12:20:07 PM

Dear Saint loup,

You are spreading around FUD!!! These are portret pictures made by an professional photographer. People have done research to our past, in our white paper our company license number are there to be checked.

LinkedIn profiles are online, multiple interviews have been given, multiple events have been attended to.


Please stop acting destructive, especially when it comes to our company. You are the one HURTING our community.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

i searched for your licence at dubai gov site and it is fake no licence
https://eservices.dubaided.gov.ae/Pages/Anon/CompLookup.aspx?1=1&PID=10105&LID=&sname=Search_License_Information&srp=-1&sfn=-1&ifn=599942667&pn=173956&pn2=


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: naviinkapoor on September 30, 2018, 01:10:24 PM
Hi,

Please stop spreading the rumours and FUD. If you need any clarification, please come on video conference to clear your doubts. Moreover, I am a verified ICO expert on ICOBench, which answers all your points.

Regards
Naviin Kapoor


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 30, 2018, 01:18:16 PM

Dear Saint loup,

You are spreading around FUD!!! These are portret pictures made by an professional photographer. People have done research to our past, in our white paper our company license number are there to be checked.

LinkedIn profiles are online, multiple interviews have been given, multiple events have been attended to.


Please stop acting destructive, especially when it comes to our company. You are the one HURTING our community.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

i searched for your licence at dubai gov site and it is fake no licence

Hello,

You could ask us to show our service license or some documentation to prove that we exist instead of just shouting FUD and hurtful allegations.

You have multiple company directories in the United Arab Emirates, we are registered in the tax free zone of Ras Al Khaimah.

We welcome all critique and substance based conversation.

These allegations are very serious and should not be taken lightly. Our team is making long weeks/month to make our company a success.  We do not understand what the reasoning or agenda for this FUD campaign is.

If you do not like our product/company that’s fine. That’s your choice, but don't spread rumors and hurt our good reputation.

Hereby the service license of our company: https://MVP.securix.io/LICENSE_SECURIX.png (https://MVP.securix.io/LICENSE_SECURIX.png).

Kind regards,

The Securix Team



Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: coin-investor on September 30, 2018, 02:03:53 PM
Securix so far has shown transparency here but if they want to level up the transparency why not hold a webinar to those accusers or video conference, yes it's true there are fake accounts in some ICO holding a video conference will clear those doubts and post it here for reference.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Ciidoctor on September 30, 2018, 02:23:53 PM

Dear Saint loup,

You are spreading around FUD!!! These are portret pictures made by an professional photographer. People have done research to our past, in our white paper our company license number are there to be checked.

LinkedIn profiles are online, multiple interviews have been given, multiple events have been attended to.


Please stop acting destructive, especially when it comes to our company. You are the one HURTING our community.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

i searched for your licence at dubai gov site and it is fake no licence

Hello,

You could ask us to show our service license or some documentation to prove that we exist instead of just shouting FUD and hurtful allegations.

You have multiple company directories in the United Arab Emirates, we are registered in the tax free zone of Ras Al Khaimah.

We welcome all critique and substance based conversation.

These allegations are very serious and should not be taken lightly. Our team is making long weeks/month to make our company a success.  We do not understand what the reasoning or agenda for this FUD campaign is.

If you do not like our product/company that’s fine. That’s your choice, but don't spread rumors and hurt our good reputation.

Hereby the service license of our company: https://MVP.securix.io/LICENSE_SECURIX.png (https://MVP.securix.io/LICENSE_SECURIX.png).

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


ok sorry but can you provide us with a reference online at least to search for license


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 30, 2018, 02:47:43 PM

Dear Saint loup,

You are spreading around FUD!!! These are portret pictures made by an professional photographer. People have done research to our past, in our white paper our company license number are there to be checked.

LinkedIn profiles are online, multiple interviews have been given, multiple events have been attended to.


Please stop acting destructive, especially when it comes to our company. You are the one HURTING our community.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

i searched for your licence at dubai gov site and it is fake no licence

Hello,

You could ask us to show our service license or some documentation to prove that we exist instead of just shouting FUD and hurtful allegations.

You have multiple company directories in the United Arab Emirates, we are registered in the tax free zone of Ras Al Khaimah.

We welcome all critique and substance based conversation.

These allegations are very serious and should not be taken lightly. Our team is making long weeks/month to make our company a success.  We do not understand what the reasoning or agenda for this FUD campaign is.

If you do not like our product/company that’s fine. That’s your choice, but don't spread rumors and hurt our good reputation.

Hereby the service license of our company: https://MVP.securix.io/LICENSE_SECURIX.png (https://MVP.securix.io/LICENSE_SECURIX.png).

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


ok sorry but can you provide us with a reference online at least to search for license

Hello,

The Authority of Ras Al Khaimah has no searchable directory. You can see our license number and the document.

Kind regards,

The Securix team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: marlboroza on September 30, 2018, 02:55:09 PM
BARU Services which is owner of the building as well has the middle section. They could as well store their buoys outside, like they have but it was really cool to let them there. They have no interest in promoting our company, because they are not related in any fashion to the company.
Quote
1: That is an older picture where a little unit was for rent, we can use up to 3 floors.
Quote
Yes, BARU services are the owner of the building they are making the Nautical equipment for the shipping Industry.
Are they using that building or not? It is hard to say from your answers. Also, I didn't say they are promoting you, I said you used another company to promote securix.

And no, it is not OK to create video of another company and use it as promotional material for your project. I would have understand video of empty space where farm would be - because that is all you need, an empty space.

Quote
I suppose this is correct building, because in the middle there is baru services and behind there is R3B https://r3b.eu/nl/ , right? :

https://i.imgur.com/u4PNVmM.png

https://www.ilocate.nl/details/huur-zevenbergen-blokweg-19-4761-ra isn't that less than 10000 m2?

Depending on the crowdsale we have the option to rent everything they are not using.
Can you show me 10500m2 free space for your farm which is stated on your site?

The other founder Jac Donkersloot made even some video's inside the location. He posted them on his own Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnVzOiqiMjS/?taken-by=nwcool77
I watched that video.
I still see this: 2 companies and empty space with max 1000 m2 which is 10 times less than 10500 m2 stated on site.

Quote
If you still have questions, remarks or doubts feel free to contact us!
https://www.linkedin.com/company/securix-io/
Quote
Securix's founders are seasoned professionals with years of experience as senior executives of Fintech Capital B.V.
https://i.imgur.com/4WjO8UF.png
Can you show me Fintech Capital B.V. company, where founders have years of experience?

fintech-capital.org

254 days old
Created on 2018-01-19
Expires on 2019-01-19
Updated on 2018-03-20


This shows fintech capital is new company https://www.oozo.nl/bedrijven/rotterdam/rotterdam-centrum/cool/1583529/fintech-capital-b-v
but not from January like it is stated on linkedin profile, correct date is March 22.
How's that founders have years of experience in new company?



Quote
Most ICO’s don’t have a real product during the crowdsale. They can change their vision and strategies. Securix has a real product and we need to maintain our mining facility for our token holders to maximize the output. So following the roadmap is crucial for Securix, as the interest of the founders are the same as everyone else's! They are also token holders and benefit from a very successful mining operation

Can you show us real product and your mining facility? Empty space for rent =/=  real product & mining facility.

But first, show us free 10500 square meters on 3 floors:

https://i.imgur.com/dgn2gkD.jpg


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: nutildah on September 30, 2018, 03:15:16 PM
Hi,

Please stop spreading the rumours and FUD. If you need any clarification, please come on video conference to clear your doubts. Moreover, I am a verified ICO expert on ICOBench, which answers all your points.

Regards
Naviin Kapoor

You have to pay $$$ for expert reviews on ICOBench. My question is: why would they pay you if they didn't think they were going to get a favorable review?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: asche on September 30, 2018, 03:17:47 PM
Hi,

Please stop spreading the rumours and FUD. If you need any clarification, please come on video conference to clear your doubts. Moreover, I am a verified ICO expert on ICOBench, which answers all your points.

Regards
Naviin Kapoor

This is a joke right?

Everyone here knows that the "experts" on rating sites are the biggest crooks in the ICO world.

Edit : funniest thing, you're also an advisor for Swiss Alps Mining ...


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on September 30, 2018, 03:25:54 PM
BARU Services which is owner of the building as well has the middle section. They could as well store their buoys outside, like they have but it was really cool to let them there. They have no interest in promoting our company, because they are not related in any fashion to the company.
Quote
1: That is an older picture where a little unit was for rent, we can use up to 3 floors.
Quote
Yes, BARU services are the owner of the building they are making the Nautical equipment for the shipping Industry.
Are they using that building or not? It is hard to say from your answers. Also, I didn't say they are promoting you, I said you used another company to promote securix.

And no, it is not OK to create video of another company and use it as promotional material for your project. I would have understand video of empty space where farm would be - because that is all you need, an empty space.

Quote
I suppose this is correct building, because in the middle there is baru services and behind there is R3B https://r3b.eu/nl/ , right? :

https://i.imgur.com/u4PNVmM.png

https://www.ilocate.nl/details/huur-zevenbergen-blokweg-19-4761-ra isn't that less than 10000 m2?

Depending on the crowdsale we have the option to rent everything they are not using.
Can you show me 10500m2 free space for your farm which is stated on your site?

The other founder Jac Donkersloot made even some video's inside the location. He posted them on his own Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnVzOiqiMjS/?taken-by=nwcool77
I watched that video.
I still see this: 2 companies and empty space with max 1000 m2 which is 10 times less than 10500 m2 stated on site.

Quote
If you still have questions, remarks or doubts feel free to contact us!
https://www.linkedin.com/company/securix-io/
Quote
Securix's founders are seasoned professionals with years of experience as senior executives of Fintech Capital B.V.
https://i.imgur.com/4WjO8UF.png
Can you show me Fintech Capital B.V. company, where founders have years of experience?

fintech-capital.org

254 days old
Created on 2018-01-19
Expires on 2019-01-19
Updated on 2018-03-20


This shows fintech capital is new company https://www.oozo.nl/bedrijven/rotterdam/rotterdam-centrum/cool/1583529/fintech-capital-b-v
but not from January like it is stated on linkedin profile, correct date is March 22.
How's that founders have years of experience in new company?



Quote
Most ICO’s don’t have a real product during the crowdsale. They can change their vision and strategies. Securix has a real product and we need to maintain our mining facility for our token holders to maximize the output. So following the roadmap is crucial for Securix, as the interest of the founders are the same as everyone else's! They are also token holders and benefit from a very successful mining operation

Can you show us real product and your mining facility? Empty space for rent =/=  real product & mining facility.

But first, show us free 10500 square meters on 3 floors:

https://i.imgur.com/dgn2gkD.jpg

Hello,

The building is owned by BARU.

We have the consent of the company to shoot in the location, their equipment was there and it was it did not to be taken out for the video. This will be the space used and utilized for the mining operation which we are now doing an ICO for.

We as well showed pictures of empty spaces, which will be utilized for the mining operation.

Regarding the space, the advertisement you see it shows only 1 particular space which can be rented in the facility. Guess this advertisement is old, what we will do is host a live video session and address all these queries as this seems the best way to act on it.

Fintech Capital B.V. is the investment company which invest in start up and scale ups, you can view the incorporation and information at: https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/product-kiezen/?kvknummer=712046280000 (https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/product-kiezen/?kvknummer=712046280000). The company has been founded to invest in companies with disruptive technologies which hase the potential to make a difference. You can see Jacobus Donkersloot his proven track record on his LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jac-donkersloot-78831592/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jac-donkersloot-78831592/).  

If you still have questions, we can as well host a interview to answer all your questions.

Kind regards

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: naviinkapoor on October 01, 2018, 04:09:41 AM
Hi,

Please stop spreading the rumours and FUD. If you need any clarification, please come on video conference to clear your doubts. Moreover, I am a verified ICO expert on ICOBench, which answers all your points.

Regards
Naviin Kapoor

You have to pay $$$ for expert reviews on ICOBench. My question is: why would they pay you if they didn't think they were going to get a favorable review?

If any expert is aksing for paid reviews, you can send the message and email to info@icobench.com, his expert status will be revoked by ICOBench in no time.

ICOBench is doing hard to curb these issues, nevertheless, it does not mean all reviews are wrong in ICOBench


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: naviinkapoor on October 01, 2018, 04:29:59 AM
Hi,

Please stop spreading the rumours and FUD. If you need any clarification, please come on video conference to clear your doubts. Moreover, I am a verified ICO expert on ICOBench, which answers all your points.

Regards
Naviin Kapoor

This is a joke right?

Everyone here knows that the "experts" on rating sites are the biggest crooks in the ICO world.

Edit : funniest thing, you're also an advisor for Swiss Alps Mining ...

You will find crooks every where, but it does not mean all advisors wrong. If you find such incidents, you are free to report them to the rating authorities, they will take the corrective actions immidiately. For example, ICOBench is doing hard to remove curruption from the system, if you find experts who are doing wrong things, you can report it to them, their expert status will be removed in no time.

And to answer your second questions, advisor are free to advise ICO Projects after they have a video conference call with them. Advisors are not part of the team and they can not predict what project and manangement will do in future. Nevertheless, I am doing my best before I take any project.

If you still have any questions, you can call me or come on the video conference to answer all your questions.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2018, 05:22:15 AM
Hi,

Please stop spreading the rumours and FUD. If you need any clarification, please come on video conference to clear your doubts. Moreover, I am a verified ICO expert on ICOBench, which answers all your points.

Regards
Naviin Kapoor

You have to pay $$$ for expert reviews on ICOBench. My question is: why would they pay you if they didn't think they were going to get a favorable review?

If any expert is aksing for paid reviews, you can send the message and email to info@icobench.com, his expert status will be revoked by ICOBench in no time.

ICOBench is doing hard to curb these issues, nevertheless, it does not mean all reviews are wrong in ICOBench

When somebody shells out 6 BTC for a "full analytical review by ICO Bench analysts," have you ever issued a less-than-positive review?

https://i.imgur.com/Juf9EHI.png


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: ICOEthics on October 01, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
....ICOBench is doing hard to remove curruption from the system.....

Hey Mr. New account, you jumped in this forum really fast to protect this company. Did you even bother to ask them to provide a copy of their rental agreement?

As far as ICOBench, How hard are they really working to remove corruption for their system?

We submit almost every week a list of at least 10 scams listed on their site - with OBVIOUS scams, such as stealing people's identity or using stock images - but still takes ICOBench 10+ days to remove scammers from the site. WHY? is because are they waiting for such scam icos sales to be over?

Here is a list sent on the 18th of september and up to today nothing was removed.

http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/bench.jpg
http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/email.JPG

We even sent a second email asking them to remove those scams.

Also how much did Cryptobike pay ICOBench to have their scam listed there?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032861.0 (scam accusation)
https://icobench.com/ico/cryptobike  (listed on ICOBench)

Cryptobike - 1 expert - http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/cryptobike-rate.jpg
TEAM = 4.0 - is a very high rate for a team using stock photos dont you think?

Cryptoriya - 1 expert Someone warned this expert this ICO was a scam on July 31st 2018. Expert gave a review/rating on August 2nd and ICOBench continue with the publication/promotion of this scammer. http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/cryptoriya-rate.jpg
Zantepay - 6 experts and they missed the scam? - http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/zantepay-rate.jpg
Ultrix - 3 experts - http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/ultrix-rate.jpg

Not sure if people should trust ICOBench and their expert team, it is starting to look like the other rating website that verifies stock images, cartoons, etc.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 01, 2018, 03:53:56 PM
....ICOBench is doing hard to remove curruption from the system.....

Hey Mr. New account, you jumped in this forum really fast to protect this company. Did you even bother to ask them to provide a copy of their rental agreement?

As far as ICOBench, How hard are they really working to remove corruption for their system?

We submit almost every week a list of at least 10 scams listed on their site - with OBVIOUS scams, such as stealing people's identity or using stock images - but still takes ICOBench 10+ days to remove scammers from the site. WHY? is because are they waiting for such scam icos sales to be over?

Here is a list sent on the 18th of september and up to today nothing was removed.

http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/bench.jpg
http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/email.JPG

We even sent a second email asking them to remove those scams.

Also how much did Cryptobike pay ICOBench to have their scam listed there?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032861.0 (scam accusation)
https://icobench.com/ico/cryptobike  (listed on ICOBench)

Cryptobike - 1 expert - http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/cryptobike-rate.jpg
TEAM = 4.0 - is a very high rate for a team using stock photos dont you think?

Cryptoriya - 1 expert Someone warned this expert this ICO was a scam on July 31st 2018. Expert gave a review/rating on August 2nd and ICOBench continue with the publication/promotion of this scammer. http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/cryptoriya-rate.jpg
Zantepay - 6 experts and they missed the scam? - http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/zantepay-rate.jpg
Ultrix - 3 experts - http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/ultrix-rate.jpg

Not sure if people should trust ICOBench and their expert team, it is starting to look like the other rating website that verifies stock images, cartoons, etc.

Hello,

This is not a thread to question ICOBench, its a whole different discussion.

Hereby a video in the location which has been made today: [urlhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BoY2CNLijic/?taken-by=nwcool77[/url].

We respect everyone his or hers opinion, but we are not here to be made out as scam and what not.

If you have no interest in Securix.io and their products, no problem, no offense taken, but stop making baseless accusations.

We've reacted to everyone his or hers questions, we've uploaded additional documents, we offered to do interviews and what not.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: ICOEthics on October 01, 2018, 04:03:41 PM

Hello,

This is not a thread to question ICOBench, its a whole different discussion.

Hereby a video in the location which has been made today: [urlhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BoY2CNLijic/?taken-by=nwcool77[/url].

We respect everyone his or hers opinion, but we are not here to be made out as scam and what not.

If you have no interest in Securix.io and their products, no problem, no offense taken, but stop making baseless accusations.

We've reacted to everyone his or hers questions, we've uploaded additional documents, we offered to do interviews and what not.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

Off course it is about Securix, but since that new account jumped in to defend your company, which appears they are doing on behalf of ICOBench, our comment was very appropriate.


...ICOBench is just the most visited site, we have gotten so far 10 experts rating which they provide a brief review....

And also, since there is this post from you about ICO Bench, our post is just another way to show that ratings doesn't mean anything anymore since it has been proved over and over  the corruption inside those rating sites.

But moving back to Securix.io, Can you provide a copy of your rental agreement?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 05, 2018, 08:29:52 AM
Dear All,

We were genuinely flabbergasted, about the way of things have gone about. A very aggressive stance towards Securix.io, making outrageous allegations like SCAM which is not taken lightly. All these allegations had no foundations and were based upon opinions. We at Securix have questioned ourselves what the agenda is behind all of this?

People in the community have a fiduciary duty to protect the good projects because if people just looked at some of the social media’s of our team members the allegations would have never been raised, if people in question had the intention to ‘’investigate’’ Securix. They found a picture which looked like it has been photoshopped, and there the rant and baseless allegations started with the intention to harm Securix and its reputation.

Internally our team first was shocked, is this real? Some Sherlock Holmes saga of a guy trying to unmask Securix. Well guess what, there is nothing to uncover because we are real, we are working every day on this, we are making Securix a colossal success.

Our team is working every day very hard and are working on this project for 1,5 year now. It’s not justified, nor it gives people no right to make this a witch hunt. All questions have been adequately answered. Still, people seek connections and motives which do not exist.

1: Using older pictures, newer pictures or whatever photo from the location is our business. It does not state anything.
Securix shows the community where the miners will be located.

2: A professional photographer shotted profile pictures, and still people are seeking a motive behind it. If maybe the images are not real or?

3: It came to our attention yesterday that some of you guys have mailed the owner of the building to investigate if we will be located over there. Well, we are as a result of this, we post the emails.

Mail A: https://MVP.securix.io/MAIL_A.jpg
Mail B: https://MVP.securix.io/MAIL_B.jpg
Mail C: https://MVP.securix.io/MAIL_C.jpg

* Before the next Sherlock Holmes spots that some of the e-mails contain an e-mail signature and logo, some don’t. We have no idea what causes this. We think it has something to do with the HTML body when sending the e-mails

If you do not like Securix and their offering, no offence taken but we won’t accept FUD being spread under the false pretence of ’’protecting the community’’. We do not accept bad mouthing of Securix in the forum from no one.

We accept feedback and constructive discussion; we are all for that. But Securix is not wasting any more time on combatting ridiculous cases and allegations.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: remokelany on October 10, 2018, 03:57:52 PM
these are the tokensale addresses

eth https://etherscan.io/address/0x0Ef5B18b8F211Cd8866C268Dfa49d0A9906AB315            only 17 eth
bitcoin https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/37gp1TrdpHmaGN6KpVNencbb2kELj6TF6j    only 0.08 bitcoin

may be all the 5 milion $ piad by fiat ?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 10, 2018, 04:22:36 PM
these are the tokensale addresses

eth https://etherscan.io/address/0x0Ef5B18b8F211Cd8866C268Dfa49d0A9906AB315            only 17 eth
bitcoin https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/37gp1TrdpHmaGN6KpVNencbb2kELj6TF6j    only 0.08 bitcoin

may be all the 5 milion $ piad by fiat ?

Correct, most money is raised with the bigger investors all in Fiat. We are hoping the crowd sale will increase more, but this needs time of course which Securix will take =)

Kind regards

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: advisor_moon on October 13, 2018, 10:27:35 AM

Hello,

This is not a thread to question ICOBench, its a whole different discussion.

Hereby a video in the location which has been made today: [urlhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BoY2CNLijic/?taken-by=nwcool77[/url].

We respect everyone his or hers opinion, but we are not here to be made out as scam and what not.

If you have no interest in Securix.io and their products, no problem, no offense taken, but stop making baseless accusations.

We've reacted to everyone his or hers questions, we've uploaded additional documents, we offered to do interviews and what not.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

Off course it is about Securix, but since that new account jumped in to defend your company, which appears they are doing on behalf of ICOBench, our comment was very appropriate.


...ICOBench is just the most visited site, we have gotten so far 10 experts rating which they provide a brief review....

And also, since there is this post from you about ICO Bench, our post is just another way to show that ratings doesn't mean anything anymore since it has been proved over and over  the corruption inside those rating sites.

But moving back to Securix.io, Can you provide a copy of your rental agreement?


I agree with you. The "experts" on ICOBench are just a bunch of High Income Individuals who get paid for including their photographs with ICOs, they have NO USE WHATSOEVER to the ICOs. I have seen numerous "Experts" now who are providing jackshit to any ICOs. It's time to disrupt the ICO Expert market now  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Crypto PR on October 16, 2018, 03:30:26 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 16, 2018, 03:42:55 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.


Thanks for your comment! It is really great that you decided to tell us about this fraud!


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on October 16, 2018, 05:57:00 PM
I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.

Mr. Crypto PR aka sockpuppet account, could you please be kind and share more details to support your accusations, of course, if that's not too much trouble for you. Anyway, that has to be the lamest way to bump your own thread, can't fool anyone in here.



I also have a question for securix_io, why do you use paid bumping services for your ANN thread? The last 20 pages that I checked are filled with pyramid quoting garbage. Creating a fake buzz like that with shilled accounts is probably the last thing a legitimate project would do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4744419.1980


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: asche on October 16, 2018, 08:45:43 PM

Mr. Crypto PR aka sockpuppet account, could you please be kind and share more details to support your accusations, of course, if that's not too much trouble for you. Anyway, that has to be the lamest way to bump your own thread, can't fool anyone in here.



Could'nt agree more

I also have a question for securix_io, why do you use paid bumping services for your ANN thread? The last 20 pages that I checked are filled with pyramid quoting garbage. Creating a fake buzz like that with shilled accounts is probably the last thing a legitimate project would do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4744419.1980


Sadly most ICO's seem to use such services. Even the "legitimate" ones.

Using quotation marks, because the definition of legitimate varies. I mean they believe somehow in their project and are not just trying to steal money from investors.
Raising 20 times the money you need still doesn't mean the project is a scam. If it were so, most ICO's could be called scams.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Crypto PR on October 17, 2018, 02:05:14 AM

Mr. Crypto PR aka sockpuppet account, could you please be kind and share more details to support your accusations, of course, if that's not too much trouble for you. Anyway, that has to be the lamest way to bump your own thread, can't fool anyone in here.



Could'nt agree more

I also have a question for securix_io, why do you use paid bumping services for your ANN thread? The last 20 pages that I checked are filled with pyramid quoting garbage. Creating a fake buzz like that with shilled accounts is probably the last thing a legitimate project would do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4744419.1980


I'M still waiting the refund of the money, they comunicate with me later on the day and say because I'm from a country allied of US, they can't open an account, but I have'it, when I check they banned they account, they say later they will return the money. still waiting. :(


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 17, 2018, 04:23:26 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.

Hello,

You are from a banned country and the money has been returned correctly. You can confirm this, because we sended a mail.

We don't disclose information without verification.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 17, 2018, 04:25:32 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.


Thanks for your comment! It is really great that you decided to tell us about this fraud!

Hello,

You are quite entertaining my friend, what is your agenda with this? You made all these baseless accusations, we messaged you and offered you to do an interview with us and so on you declined.

So you are the person who is doing harm for fun. Well have a good life, mate.

Kind regards

Damian Strauss


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 18, 2018, 08:56:44 AM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.


Thanks for your comment! It is really great that you decided to tell us about this fraud!

Hello,

You are quite entertaining my friend, what is your agenda with this? You made all these baseless accusations, we messaged you and offered you to do an interview with us and so on you declined.

So you are the person who is doing harm for fun. Well have a good life, mate.

Kind regards

Damian Strauss

Hello, Damian. It's better for you to write your answer and prove everything you want. We are an independent source, that's why no interviews...
I hope you understand my opinion.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 18, 2018, 09:46:56 AM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.


Thanks for your comment! It is really great that you decided to tell us about this fraud!

Hello,

You are quite entertaining my friend, what is your agenda with this? You made all these baseless accusations, we messaged you and offered you to do an interview with us and so on you declined.

So you are the person who is doing harm for fun. Well have a good life, mate.

Kind regards

Damian Strauss

Hello, Damian. It's better for you to write your answer and prove everything you want. We are an independent source, that's why no interviews...
I hope you understand my opinion.


Hello Shit..,

We've already made a full statement, the sherlock holmes piece you drafted up is full of baseless accusations and opinions. Why no interviews, that is self serving and 1 sided because it will give you a bad look. We understand why you are not wanting to do a interview.


Damian Strauss A.K.A The Real Damian Strauss =D


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 18, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
Damian Strauss's picture is not photoshopped as in creating a new/fake identity, there was indeed excessive use of sharpening/blur and shadows/vignette.

https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg (https://image.ibb.co/eiQLrp/dame1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS04xbWNokE

Hello,

We would like to show our gratitude on behalf of the Securix community for the efforts you've made and share your findings.

Kind regards,

The Securix team

I start supporting securix.io, when I buy 360 tokens, but, I don't know if is a scam or not, Im just waiting to receive and answer, because they banne my account and keep the money. I want my money back, if youre going to invest in Securix.io first read the reviews. I just trust to much in this company and steal my money. stay away. I send various emails, and a direct message via instagram and no answer.


Thanks for your comment! It is really great that you decided to tell us about this fraud!

Hello,

You are quite entertaining my friend, what is your agenda with this? You made all these baseless accusations, we messaged you and offered you to do an interview with us and so on you declined.

So you are the person who is doing harm for fun. Well have a good life, mate.

Kind regards

Damian Strauss

Hello, Damian. It's better for you to write your answer and prove everything you want. We are an independent source, that's why no interviews...
I hope you understand my opinion.


Hello Shit..,

We've already made a full statement, the sherlock holmes piece you drafted up is full of baseless accusations and opinions. Why no interviews, that is self serving and 1 sided because it will give you a bad look. We understand why you are not wanting to do a interview.


Damian Strauss A.K.A The Real Damian Strauss =D

''Hello Shit.., ''

WTF ??? Are you a founder of serious business project or an adult kid who cannot constrain his emotions :o

I'm not afraid of being looked bad... And it's not me asked shitcoin offering to delete an article because it could damage Securix reputation... So, the article is published and you are able to prove that this is not a scam one! I have proofs which make Securix ICO very suspicious and these are really based on facts! This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: marlboroza on October 18, 2018, 12:50:06 PM
~
This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 18, 2018, 12:56:57 PM
~
This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.

Do you have any questions to Shitcoin Offering or Securix team ?


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on October 18, 2018, 02:30:54 PM
Isn't this topic better suited for 'Investigations' board?

I see no hard evidence presented here. Nor are there facts to support your claims, just speculations. On the other hand, the self-promoting website/telegram channel is difficult to miss.



Do interview.

why do you use paid bumping services for your ANN thread?

We already know the answer, no need to respond... ;)






Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 18, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
~
This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.

Hello Marlboroza,

We are glad to do so! Than everyone can see how good we are photoshopped right?

=D

The Securix team


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 18, 2018, 03:15:12 PM
~
This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.

Hello Marlboroza,

We are glad to do so! Than everyone can see how good we are photoshopped right?

=D

The Securix team

I didn't say you are photoshopped :)


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: marlboroza on October 18, 2018, 03:58:50 PM
Don't you think investors should check everything before investing and ask all questions they want to know, especially if someone claim to has 10050 square meters and show in pictures and video only 1000 and another company? Investor has every right to know everything they want to know before investing. I am not sure why this is so hard to understand. Do you know why I start asking questions? Because I saw something which doesn't belong to mining farm. Pneumatic bumper. Lots of them. It is like making video for boats and using car factory for it.
Do you know why I choose this thread to ask questions? Because I am 100% sure not a single spammer/shill/whatever will come to this thread:

Quote
Nice. Reviews are always good especially video reviews. They tend to capture the audience easily. I really hope to see more reviews from different individuals.
Quote
They already have quite a lot of good reviews from various sources. I am also looking for more videos from the team that showcases the features of the project in detail.
Quote
This is an excellent review, I love the way more people are reviewing Securix. It tells well of them. Nice one Martin Hacks.
Quote
Martin Hacks wow.. That was fast, I'm beginning to enjoy the project much more.. Nice work team
Quote
I have also seen many sites given positive feedback/ rating for this project. This is very good video review. I personally prefer watching the videos.
And so on. This is forum, not some random skype spam room.

~
This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.
We are glad to do so! Than everyone can see how good we are photoshopped right?
You said you want to make interview, shitcoinoffering said they don't want to do interview, than you said why no interview and shitcoinoffering asked opinion and I said do interview. I don't really understand "photoshopped" part.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: securix_io on October 19, 2018, 06:26:38 AM
Don't you think investors should check everything before investing and ask all questions they want to know, especially if someone claim to has 10050 square meters and show in pictures and video only 1000 and another company? Investor has every right to know everything they want to know before investing. I am not sure why this is so hard to understand. Do you know why I start asking questions? Because I saw something which doesn't belong to mining farm. Pneumatic bumper. Lots of them. It is like making video for boats and using car factory for it.
Do you know why I choose this thread to ask questions? Because I am 100% sure not a single spammer/shill/whatever will come to this thread:

Quote
Nice. Reviews are always good especially video reviews. They tend to capture the audience easily. I really hope to see more reviews from different individuals.
Quote
They already have quite a lot of good reviews from various sources. I am also looking for more videos from the team that showcases the features of the project in detail.
Quote
This is an excellent review, I love the way more people are reviewing Securix. It tells well of them. Nice one Martin Hacks.
Quote
Martin Hacks wow.. That was fast, I'm beginning to enjoy the project much more.. Nice work team
Quote
I have also seen many sites given positive feedback/ rating for this project. This is very good video review. I personally prefer watching the videos.
And so on. This is forum, not some random skype spam room.

~
This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.
We are glad to do so! Than everyone can see how good we are photoshopped right?
You said you want to make interview, shitcoinoffering said they don't want to do interview, than you said why no interview and shitcoinoffering asked opinion and I said do interview. I don't really understand "photoshopped" part.

Dear Marlboroza,

We've already made a public statement, Bitcointalk members even sended to the owner of the building. The owner responded in full in the mail we've shared.

We are not on public trial. We are happy to do an interview, we will not respond in the thread any longer and stand by the previous statement made.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on October 19, 2018, 12:31:33 PM
BTW

An interesting article published yesterday about the health of the crypto mining business
Chinese Miners Forced to Shut Down Their Businesses, As Cryptocurrency Prices Plummet
Quote
Cryptocurrency mining is no longer profitable for operators of small mining farms in China.
Local residents reveal they were forced to shut down their mining operations due to the extended crypto bear market.
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/10/chinese-cryptocurrency-miners-forced-to-shut-down-their-businesses-as-digital-currency-prices-plummet/

and here an older article
Dutch bitcoin mining farm Koinz Trading declared bankrupt
https://nltimes.nl/2018/02/16/dutch-bitcoin-mining-farm-koinz-trading-declared-bankrupt


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 19, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
BTW

An interesting article published yesterday about the mining business
Chinese Miners Forced to Shut Down Their Businesses, As Cryptocurrency Prices Plummet
Quote
Cryptocurrency mining is no longer profitable for operators of small mining farms in China.
Local residents reveal they were forced to shut down their mining operations due to the extended crypto bear market.
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/10/chinese-cryptocurrency-miners-forced-to-shut-down-their-businesses-as-digital-currency-prices-plummet/

and here an older article
Dutch bitcoin mining farm Koinz Trading declared bankrupt
https://nltimes.nl/2018/02/16/dutch-bitcoin-mining-farm-koinz-trading-declared-bankrupt

Please don't spam in this topic.


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on October 19, 2018, 12:40:56 PM
 ??? It's not a spam it's the reality!


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on October 19, 2018, 01:20:14 PM
Isn't this topic better suited for 'Investigations' board?

 ??? Which one?
I don't see any "Investigation" board except this one  ???
 


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on October 19, 2018, 01:49:00 PM
??? Which one?
I don't see any "Investigation" board except this one  ???

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0

Usually, you post there if you don't have any concrete evidence and you want to gather more information about a project, specific user etc.

You don't start a Scam Accusation topic based on speculations only, at least that's what I think...

Anyway, thanks for the nltimes link - it was a good read.



Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on October 19, 2018, 02:08:02 PM
Thank you I've never paid attention to that sub


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: asche on October 21, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
Thank you I've never paid attention to that sub

Same for me :)

Thank you morvillz


Title: Re: [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 22, 2018, 02:15:04 PM
Don't you think investors should check everything before investing and ask all questions they want to know, especially if someone claim to has 10050 square meters and show in pictures and video only 1000 and another company? Investor has every right to know everything they want to know before investing. I am not sure why this is so hard to understand. Do you know why I start asking questions? Because I saw something which doesn't belong to mining farm. Pneumatic bumper. Lots of them. It is like making video for boats and using car factory for it.
Do you know why I choose this thread to ask questions? Because I am 100% sure not a single spammer/shill/whatever will come to this thread:

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Nice. Reviews are always good especially video reviews. They tend to capture the audience easily. I really hope to see more reviews from different individuals.
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They already have quite a lot of good reviews from various sources. I am also looking for more videos from the team that showcases the features of the project in detail.
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This is an excellent review, I love the way more people are reviewing Securix. It tells well of them. Nice one Martin Hacks.
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Martin Hacks wow.. That was fast, I'm beginning to enjoy the project much more.. Nice work team
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I have also seen many sites given positive feedback/ rating for this project. This is very good video review. I personally prefer watching the videos.
And so on. This is forum, not some random skype spam room.

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This topic is opened for discussion and I'm ready to hear everyone's opinion!
Do interview.
We are glad to do so! Than everyone can see how good we are photoshopped right?
You said you want to make interview, shitcoinoffering said they don't want to do interview, than you said why no interview and shitcoinoffering asked opinion and I said do interview. I don't really understand "photoshopped" part.

Dear Marlboroza,

We've already made a public statement, Bitcointalk members even sended to the owner of the building. The owner responded in full in the mail we've shared.

We are not on public trial. We are happy to do an interview, we will not respond in the thread any longer and stand by the previous statement made.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

Here are questions about Securix:
1. What’s the benefit of a ROI calculator, if you can’t predict Bitcoin’s exchange rate? Don’t you agree that this is just investor bait, nothing more?
2. Do you have enough mining experience to make the most profitable project in this field? If you do, then which memebers of your team have it and how extensive is it?
3. 85% of received income you are planning to spend on mining equipment, facilities rent and technical development. Is 15% enough for legal issues and marketing? What will happen if you collect less than you have planned? After all, it seems like everything is leading up to this.
4. Why haven’t you created an MVP? Don’t you need it, when you’re planning to collect such an enormous amount of money?
5. Have you met Joost van Doorn? He’s known for giving a lot of advice on blockchain and ICOs.


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: cryptobaro on March 19, 2019, 09:30:46 PM
Maybe you were right, no reply from the team for so long..


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on March 19, 2019, 10:13:50 PM
Maybe you were right, no reply from the team for so long..

Here's something that looks like a statement from their official telegram group posted back in January (speaking of their tg group, half of the users there are fake/deleted accounts):

Quote from: @jessazabala2 January 19, 2019
Dear Community,

We would like to take this opportunity to reach out to our valued community.

We’d like to provide you with an update to our present status as best we can at this time.

As you’re probably aware we recently completed the crowdfunding sale of the SRXIO token. After traveling the globe in 2018 we met with many loyal investors much like yourself.

We truly appreciate the enthusiasm in both investing in our token as well as cryptocurrency in general.

The public sale for SRXIO did not go well due to the extreme adverse market conditions, and massive devaluations in both Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH)

Beginning the New Year the volatility in crypto has continued with this same erratic trend.

Because of this, we had to switch mid public sale to private sales. Even these agreements had a massive devaluation, we are re-negotiating these contracts at this time.

This and the cost of mining bitcoins, with their current extremely low prices, makes a launch totally prohibitive at the present time.

Please be assured that we have your very best interests in mind and we will update you community shortly with further information.

Please bear with us while the website is being redesigned.

The SRXIO token distribution will follow later this month, the token holders will receive an e-mail individually regarding the distribution. the exchange listing procedure will be commenced at a later stage and Securix will update the community once this process has been completed.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

Their website is undergoing maintenance since mid December.

Exit scam anyone?  ::)


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on March 20, 2019, 10:19:50 AM
Maybe you were right, no reply from the team for so long..

Here's something that looks like a statement from their official telegram group posted back in January (speaking of their tg group, half of the users there are fake/deleted accounts):

Quote from: @jessazabala2 January 19, 2019
Dear Community,

We would like to take this opportunity to reach out to our valued community.

We’d like to provide you with an update to our present status as best we can at this time.

As you’re probably aware we recently completed the crowdfunding sale of the SRXIO token. After traveling the globe in 2018 we met with many loyal investors much like yourself.

We truly appreciate the enthusiasm in both investing in our token as well as cryptocurrency in general.

The public sale for SRXIO did not go well due to the extreme adverse market conditions, and massive devaluations in both Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH)

Beginning the New Year the volatility in crypto has continued with this same erratic trend.

Because of this, we had to switch mid public sale to private sales. Even these agreements had a massive devaluation, we are re-negotiating these contracts at this time.

This and the cost of mining bitcoins, with their current extremely low prices, makes a launch totally prohibitive at the present time.

Please be assured that we have your very best interests in mind and we will update you community shortly with further information.

Please bear with us while the website is being redesigned.

The SRXIO token distribution will follow later this month, the token holders will receive an e-mail individually regarding the distribution. the exchange listing procedure will be commenced at a later stage and Securix will update the community once this process has been completed.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

Their website is undergoing maintenance since mid December.

Exit scam anyone?  ::)


Take a look at it
https://i.ibb.co/THRRnVH/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12-18-07.png (https://ibb.co/GVkk1KV)


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: ICOEthics on March 20, 2019, 07:38:12 PM

Not surprised if they exit scam. They never answered our question... Wondering what happened to that huge rental space. (if they even rented)

...Can you provide a copy of your rental agreement?


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on March 20, 2019, 11:23:57 PM
@shitcoinoffering

these are the tokensale addresses

eth https://etherscan.io/address/0x0Ef5B18b8F211Cd8866C268Dfa49d0A9906AB315            only 17 eth
bitcoin https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/37gp1TrdpHmaGN6KpVNencbb2kELj6TF6j    only 0.08 bitcoin

may be all the 5 milion $ piad by fiat ?

Correct, most money is raised with the bigger investors all in Fiat.


@ICOEthics

Yup, although they presented themselves as transparent and open about their project, they didn't answer many other questions in this thread. All images inside that supposed-to-be-rented-space are now 404 Not Found along with their Emirates license. Jac Donkersloot instagram account is private and videos posted seems to be deleted.

One of their advisors has logged in recently though, maybe he can come and shed some light. (naviinkapoor)



I don't know if there's a connection or simply a coincidence but accounts used to bump securix ANN or now doing the same with another mining project called [ANN] - MinedBlock (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108768.0). I haven't had the time look into it but again "high ROI", "mining facilities", "mining rigs", "cost efficient" etc.  ::)



Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on March 21, 2019, 10:37:30 AM
@shitcoinoffering

these are the tokensale addresses

eth https://etherscan.io/address/0x0Ef5B18b8F211Cd8866C268Dfa49d0A9906AB315            only 17 eth
bitcoin https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/37gp1TrdpHmaGN6KpVNencbb2kELj6TF6j    only 0.08 bitcoin

may be all the 5 milion $ piad by fiat ?

Correct, most money is raised with the bigger investors all in Fiat.


@ICOEthics

Yup, although they presented themselves as transparent and open about their project, they didn't answer many other questions in this thread. All images inside that supposed-to-be-rented-space are now 404 Not Found along with their Emirates license. Jac Donkersloot instagram account is private and videos posted seems to be deleted.

One of their advisors has logged in recently though, maybe he can come and shed some light. (naviinkapoor)



I don't know if there's a connection or simply a coincidence but accounts used to bump securix ANN or now doing the same with another mining project called [ANN] - MinedBlock (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108768.0). I haven't had the time look into it but again "high ROI", "mining facilities", "mining rigs", "cost efficient" etc.  ::)



As to their advisor Naviin Kappor, he was involved in many scam projects like Swiss Alps Mining, Twogap, Crypt Assist etc.
We have some materials about these projects.

https://shitcoinoffering.com/dead-snow-the-swiss-alps-mining-scam-ico/
https://shitcoinoffering.com/twogap-food-truck-owner-teaches-us-blockchain/




Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: cryptobaro on March 21, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Even if something is delayed for some reasons, they HAVE TO inform the community. Now they are nothing but an 'exit scam'. I don't understand projects who do not reply for weeks and after someone says 'scam' they come here and say 'we are not scam' lol..

This one turned out to be a scam too, lets move to another


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: shitcoinoffering on March 21, 2019, 01:45:40 PM
Even if something is delayed for some reasons, they HAVE TO inform the community. Now they are nothing but an 'exit scam'. I don't understands project who do not reply for weeks and after someone says 'scam' they come and say 'we are not scam' lol..

This one turned out to be a scam too, lets move to another

Exactly


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: cryptobaro on March 28, 2019, 02:08:51 AM
Even if something is delayed for some reasons, they HAVE TO inform the community. Now they are nothing but an 'exit scam'. I don't understands project who do not reply for weeks and after someone says 'scam' they come and say 'we are not scam' lol..

This one turned out to be a scam too, lets move to another

Exactly

Still no news..disappointing


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: aioc on March 28, 2019, 02:38:06 AM
This is their pinned message in their telegram channel, they should refund their investors who invested in their ICO stage
I think the bad publicity has done a lot to their campaign well they this, deserve it for not being transparent enough

Quote
Dear Community,

We would like to take this opportunity to reach out to our valued community.

We’d like to provide you with an update to our present status as best we can at this time.

As you’re probably aware we recently completed the crowdfunding sale of the SRXIO token. After traveling the globe in 2018 we met with many loyal investors much like yourself.

We truly appreciate the enthusiasm in both investing in our token as well as cryptocurrency in general.

The public sale for SRXIO did not go well due to the extreme adverse market conditions, and massive devaluations in both Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH)

Beginning the New Year the volatility in crypto has continued with this same erratic trend.

Because of this, we had to switch mid public sale to private sales. Even these agreements had a massive devaluation, we are re-negotiating these contracts at this time.

This and the cost of mining bitcoins, with their current extremely low prices, makes a launch totally prohibitive at the present time.

Please be assured that we have your very best interests in mind and we will update you community shortly with further information.

Please bear with us while the website is being redesigned.

The SRXIO token distribution will follow later this month, the token holders will receive an e-mail individually regarding the distribution. the exchange listing procedure will be commenced at a later stage and Securix will update the community once this process has been completed.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: cryptobaro on April 03, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
This is their pinned message in their telegram channel, they should refund their investors who invested in their ICO stage
I think the bad publicity has done a lot to their campaign well they this, deserve it for not being transparent enough

Quote
Dear Community,

We would like to take this opportunity to reach out to our valued community.

We’d like to provide you with an update to our present status as best we can at this time.

As you’re probably aware we recently completed the crowdfunding sale of the SRXIO token. After traveling the globe in 2018 we met with many loyal investors much like yourself.

We truly appreciate the enthusiasm in both investing in our token as well as cryptocurrency in general.

The public sale for SRXIO did not go well due to the extreme adverse market conditions, and massive devaluations in both Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH)

Beginning the New Year the volatility in crypto has continued with this same erratic trend.

Because of this, we had to switch mid public sale to private sales. Even these agreements had a massive devaluation, we are re-negotiating these contracts at this time.

This and the cost of mining bitcoins, with their current extremely low prices, makes a launch totally prohibitive at the present time.

Please be assured that we have your very best interests in mind and we will update you community shortly with further information.

Please bear with us while the website is being redesigned.

The SRXIO token distribution will follow later this month, the token holders will receive an e-mail individually regarding the distribution. the exchange listing procedure will be commenced at a later stage and Securix will update the community once this process has been completed.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team

These idiots have no honor, nothing. Projects can be delayed or suspended, I do not complain however they HAVE TO inform people.

There should be system to fuck these guys' life...


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on May 29, 2019, 12:00:38 PM
Dear Marlboroza,

We've already made a public statement, Bitcointalk members even sended to the owner of the building. The owner responded in full in the mail we've shared.

We are not on public trial. We are happy to do an interview, we will not respond in the thread any longer and stand by the previous statement made.

Kind regards,

The Securix Team
Where are you now? Did you refund your investors and pay your bounty participants?


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: morvillz7z on May 29, 2019, 04:18:26 PM
Where are you now? Did you refund your investors and pay your bounty participants?

I don't think you, investors nor people who took part in their bounty will ever hear from them again.

The last time I checked their website (two months ago), it was still under maintenance...status has changed to:

https://i.ibb.co/ZNZB8G5/sec.jpg

Other means of communication (telegram/twitter etc) appears to be abandoned as well.

Probably late but I will tag their accounts.


Title: Re: 🔴 [SCAM] Securix ICO
Post by: Saint-loup on May 29, 2019, 05:40:17 PM
Last tweet in december (2018)...
in order to announce a "scheduled maintenance"  ::)

https://twitter.com/securixio

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers-sm/2019/22/3/1559151509-scr2.png


Where are you now? Did you refund your investors and pay your bounty participants?

I don't think you, investors nor people who took part in their bounty will ever hear from them again.

The last time I checked their website (two months ago), it was still under maintenance...status has changed to:

https://i.ibb.co/ZNZB8G5/sec.jpg

Other means of communication (telegram/twitter etc) appears to be abandoned as well.

Probably late but I will tag their accounts.
I just tagged them too.