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Hi guys. I am very interested in one question ... I read many different messages from different topics of this forum. Many people believe that the current situation in the market is a preparation for big growth. Allegedly, the market is ready for it and it will happen soon. But I think that big wallets (powerful people with big money) have been made it specially to mislead us. In fact, there will be no growth in the next couple of years. What do you think about?

Everything is possible, the market is very unpredictable and the probability of rising or falling is 50%. Maybe tomorrow a reversal will begin, and maybe all this is speculation to push the market even more. But I do not think that the bear market will continue for several more years. I think in 2019 there will be a positive trend

I don't think anybody is misleading anybody else, whales or otherwise. When we are talking about growth, the money has to come from somewhere. That means either a widespread adoption of crypto-currencies or institutional money coming in. I don't see either one of these two options (from the demand side of things) happening right now. This doesn't mean that it will not happen in the near future, but right now I see limited potential for growth. However, there is one additional aspect we should consider, which is on the supply side. The next bitcoin halving is happening 2020, which means further limiting the supply. We will probably see the market reacts to that even earlier than 2020.

Everyone can argue about today's market situation or tomorrow. Although it hasn't happened yet, and can only predict and hope. I will continue to hope that the market will move to grow and be green. It's up to other people to talk about anything, I will keep thinking positive. Thanks.

Well personally i think these things can not be predicted, it is very simple, if we will get growing volumes we will also see growth in value, all we need is big volume back in the volume just like we had last year, market crossed 800 billion in volume and at the moment we are back to 200 so volume is the deciding factor in this market.

This is all speculation, nobody knows for sure. There is some truth regarding whales, but all in all it really comes down to investors themselves. If people start embracing and investing more in cryptocurrencies, then bull will most surely happen. We can't simply rely on history and say "oh well, if last year at the same time bitcoin rose to unimaginable proportions, it will go even higher than that this time". It's just not doable. Only "the future" knows for sure and "the past" is not always a great teacher. I would suggest spending what you can afford, lay back and wait if anything happens.

That's a fact? do you have any proof to support that claim that there will be no growth for the next couple of years? no one can predict entirely what's going to happen to the market and we are all guessing and speculating on where it is heading.

I think your basis is the current one that you can see and that's disappointing many investors which made them think that there's no way for the market to grow. The real fact is we're still up high compare to same month of 2017.

in my opinion, such an opinion can arise on a person's worries on the current market conditions that continue to decline, compared to previous years many miracles occurred. what if we continue to be optimistic in the future. indeed related to profit and loss, but at least we are a little relieved by the actual news that happened on cryprocurrency

I surely believe we will see huge bull market in the fuure. But i am again sure that will be not in 1 or 1.5 years. We need atleast 2 year to see again this kind of bull market again.
We can still continue earning some money in crypto market but huge gains will not be very easy. we need to wait.

it looks like the prospects for the future will be good if supported by good coin growth, especially those paired with BTC and ETH. Now also a lot of project starting to release new exchanges, here I don't understand what they are doing, even though the market has a lot, this will certainly affect coin growth

The market is no ready for that, the big bubble will be happened in a few years. so many people have been repeating to say the same thing just like it will go to the moon, big pump will come and many but they are all bullshit. market is not ready for that, it might happen when bitcoin gets another halving time o decrease its block reward dude

We can say with certainty that in the past 9 months there was no growth, bitcoin volatility dropped to minimum values ​​and the price was firmly fixed at about 6000. What will happen next? Long flat or rapid growth? We can not know, as noted above except for halving in 2020, significant news is not expected yet, perhaps ETF will be a growth factor, we will see.

I agree if many people are preparing their assets and continue to fold them for the future. But I disagree if there is no market growth or recovery in the coming year, because no one can guess for sure and the market can move at any time.

That is the point immediately money is injected into cryptocurrency market the market will stabilize and growth will take place naturally no one will stop or manipulate it.

majority of those people are saying things like this because they have bought those coins on top and are now desperate to get their money back and are hoping for the rise to happen sooner.

the market is still in recession trying to fix the pumps that happened last year. of course that is true about the biggest altcoins that are on top not all of the coins like the small cap coins at the bottom.

the "big wallets" don't care enough to make things like that. those statements were created by newbies losing money.
the big wallets are now making money elsewhere.

We all know that the market is very erratic, so anything is possible. As for me, I am optimistic and I deeply believe that the market will recover and get back up again soon. Maybe not as high as the moon, but it'll recover. Remember that when you're down, there's no other way but up.

hello mate! you have a point about people with big pockets but i think no one knows when is the big market growth will happen. but anything is possible. we may face a bigger downfall in the exchanges in the future but i know there will also a growth coming through after. just hold your assets as much as possible. cheers!

One thing is for sure, something is in the air, and changes are about to happen. It's not only the investors with big money that can influence the market. Don't forget, it's us too. Besides they are the minority..

Most of people in this forum say that the bull market will come soon. I hope that too. The people that you said (billionaire) will only get in the market if they see a big chance to make money.

Yes I am bothered after seeing the market situation everyday. It goes down and rarely up there is no stability till now, no one cannot predict anything we need to afford all these stuffs. Victories and defeat are part of the game. Well this is how it goes now.

What makes you that sure about the huge bull in the future? It has been always depended to many factors. However, adoption for cryptocurrencies becomes more and more wide compared to the last couple of years. Earning money from cryptocurrencies is not the aim to build it but to facilitate our lives and let us feel more freedom when executing our financial operations.

I think the rise is about to come. This process doesn't take several years. I am looking forward to nice developments after November.

There are many factors which will drive the real price of the crypto currency and also its market out reach. Lets say, bitcoin is being used now a days for trading and investing only but in the future if its utility raises due to technical infrastructure then its demand will also rise more and more and thus it may give us more market soon. This will easily pump the market to next level and will take the bitcoin to higher prices and stuff. Thats how it works here, the demand and supply thing is prime importance here.
In fact in the coming years the crypto currency will go to next level of v2.0 to make things feel far more different than the current one.

Although I love how you input your thread title to argue, I must disagree with what you said at your opening message.

You should have put facts or links to prove there are certainty with it. It looks like you are so sure about what you have dreamt about. ;D
This whales that you are saying, there is a chance they have already made their part and then profit then out.
So we are the ones left and the upcoming buyers and merchants. But that is just a chance. Not so sure.

Also, if they are staying and have cryto currency in their hands then they will need to make profit with again. If what you say is real they might be preparing for the vice versa of what you said.
Another big wave to make money. Pump it large then sell it all once again.
They can keep on doing this if this "powerful people with big money" still do exist in this crypto world.

There will always be a chance they are the culprit for this red marks.

It is impossible for us to predict market prices in the future, I prefer to be silent and not comment because the market price can go down and can also rise, believe in yourself, to take every decision because the future is only our own who can determine , my advice is to keep trying even though there are some that fail, because failure is the beginning of our success.

an interesting point! if we assume that crypto is controlled by this big wallets than it may be so; on the other hand, it might be independent just as was promised, and in this case growth is to be expected indeed

It could happen in the next few years, and we might see this for a long time. But still, we don't know what will happen, and we only hope that there is a big growth in the cryptocurrency especially if there is many people join in the crypto market and it will make some change for the price. And if there is no growth in the next years, then we need to satisfy what happens and still trying to make a profit because this is our purposes so far. But I think there will some surprises for us, and I guess that there will be an increase for some coins that can help us to make a profit.

It is very right on your part to think that we can be deceived, always keep it in mind. The only thing we can do is keep an eye out.

what you are or assuming of the market is just speculation as far as am concern,nobody can predict what will happen in the crypto market in the next months to come because crypto market itself is unpredictable,we can only speculate.To say there will not be any growth in the next couple of years is not fact.

Hello! The problem you posed is also something I am wondering. Many people think that the rise in prices of electronic money is normal. Coins will rise in the near future. But who knows what will happen? If the bitcoin collapses, who will be responsible?

If you are brave, knowledgeable, risky, invest in electronic money. This field will help you become rich. In the next few years, the electronic money market will take a new step. It is possible that bitcoin will become the official trading currency in daily life such as cash.

The potential in crypto currencies and its system are too big to ignore. Especially this time when the USA is becoming aggressive and there's a trade war already or is yet to happen with European Union, the UK and China. Bitcoin will become a possible sanctuary for people that don't want to be affected with it.

I also do not exclude such a variant of events, but I still hope that the market will start growing at the end of this year!

Let your expectation come true because the value is drowning everyday and I am losing hope everyday, still believe that there will be change for sure. Lets see

Crypto market is very volatile and all of us here to make some profits and get good returns.Many crypto have proved to be a very good one and also gave some good results and there were also some shitty coins for which people had to suffer.The ups and downs is the characteristic of crypto market which keeps it interesting.Many experts and enthusiast predicted many things moreover in media news and many blogs we have seen many articles and posts.But at the end we see that things are very different.So basically we need to do our own research and technically have to think and make our decisions.The present scenario in the market is only sending signals of another bull run I guess ;D ;D.lets keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.

You are right. I think most of the markets such as crypto or stock are controlled by sharks and whales. They have money, they have secret information. So they can do anything they want and we cant force them.

I think that growth will undoubtedly be but not as big as many investors expect. Today it no longer makes sense to push the market down. If bitcoin and ethereum fall even below the miners there is no point in working, they will incur losses.

Personally I am looking at us going into another recovery soon, taking into account that there is always some kind of recovery at the end of the year when people are more likely to invest in the coins. But there will not be any bull as so many people have been predicting, no one should be expecting a bull. The next bull will be years from now.

The crypto market is unpredictable and there are equal chances for all scenarios. Personally I think that the bear market
will continue for long, with green days here and there. The market is prepared for bullish trend but it will come when
we less expect it.

All the promise of our market lies in our faith. If we don't believe, then it'll fall apart completely. I think it makes sense to invest now. Blockchain is the technology of the future and for this reason you should believe in the development of the market

Perhaps you are right and the market will not start growing soon, but it cannot be excluded that growth is also possible in the near future ...

No point in arguing
The market can be defined in different manners because there are a lot people involved
Different people with different ideas is why ideas can’t be all accepted

Be focused on your self

I think that the market can really be quite promising. But so far it's just speculation, and no weighty arguments other than the interest of large investors, I do not see unfortunately

We doesn't really have the thinking of what you call big wallet peoples, maybe they really manipulate the market of cryptos but, who knows? we also have our own thinking and principle. We can make a way to manipulate it altogether and make a change with it. The most powerful way of helping the cryptos to regain its position before is to support it.

you know, something that exists in the market is not able to ascertained and whatever will happen. whether it will back up or even down there will be no one knows. This year might indeed look bad and this lot make juxtaposed speculated that the market is dead. However, there are still plenty of hope also to the market soon grew and if see crypto prospects to present the possibility of growth will continue to exist.

Since the crypto market is so much un predictable, there is always chance for any coins to get its price rising rapidly or just dropping so much.
I think what we can do would be wait for the big investors to drop their money on some coins.

The bubble just burst and the market has found it's low point for now and it's just a good thing it isn't valued at any less

Growth will come from institutional investment and that will generate more hype and retail investment will increase again so there's lots of potential still

No one can know what will happen in the future. We can only prepare it if you still believe the coin will be worth in the future enough you hold it. I suggest investing using cold budget

It is very hard to deny the coming growth because it must be here. Last year has shown that the end of the year is the most promising and suitable time for it.

What was the reason for you about this opinion? Bull run is a possible event that could be without any premises but certain coing one has some foundations.

I still see the prospects of the market is good because of many of the altcoins still on the way to increase. Maybe we don't know when the time for the recovery for the market, but I am sure that the market will be back to increase like before. And if somehow, there is no growth like you said, then I don't think this will is going to end because the journey of cryptocurrency has begun and therefore many people will come to the crypto, and they will use like what we did and cryptocurrency itself still trying to reach more people.

First of all my wishes to all and wish everyone gets something from his/her investment.Cheers.
Seeing the present scenario its really sad because the bearish trend will follow for a bit long than expected.For prices to sky rocket it needs another good dip and of course a good catalyst to pump and drive.Moreover some positive news from ETF and SEC and still on the way and unless some thing comes around institutions are willing to participate.So I guess we have to more patient and lets hope for the best.

All right. I communicate with one very successful trader and he told me that he technically sees the fall of bitcoin to 4-3 thousand. But he says that this is possible through growth, then a sharp drop. This is a correction of the three-year market growth. And it's kind of picking up energy for the next jump.

Market need bost. First boost was BTC and attention to it. Second boost was ICO boom, when people were ready to buy any crypto. Now we need something similar.

As far as I remember marked have been ready for growth for last nine month, but we can still see not growth. Now you can make a conclusion about all these messages.

This is correct, that is how the market usually is, after the bull market the entire market goes into a bear and there is no kind of growth for a couple of years which is what we are experiencing now. Now is the time to actually buy the coins and stock up instead of expecting a recovery that is never going to happen. The market will be down for a couple of years

I do not believe that whole market will be ready to recover, but several dozens of coins have preety good chances to become popular in future.

I hope, that we will see the green market very soon. Moreover, I can't believe that the story with two years of falling market will repeat, because the market is bigger and we have much more people on this market than in 2014.

Well, there can be many reasons why the market is in such a state now. It is also unknown when the growth will begin. We can only assume based on news about crypto and upcoming events. I believe that the turning point will be the adoption of ETF, then the market situation should improve.

I don't consider this to be the end of the expansion of the crypto economy. They have just started expanding and quite naturally being opposed by people, institutions, banks, governments etc. The same happened with gold, with fiat, even with internet and computers. This resistance to a growth of new technology and currency is not new. This is indeed needed.

what makes you believe there is no growth for the next few years? Is there an argument for this? if you want to argue you must have strong and detailed opinions.

I think there are many ico projects running Q4 according to white paper next year, so if you research Q4 it can make the market grow and so does bitcoin
maybe at least the market rises slowly until it's time to start pumping

Every person in this forum has their own opinion. In mind, I think that I cannot predict when the market will increase adns tay stable. However, seeing the market today, it seems that some coins are awesome with its green colors. The prospect of the market really depends on the big coins such as BTC, ETH, and some other popular coins But now, many small price coins also offer interesting term to trade. That make them also rise drastically.

It is obvious that most of coins will never recover, so people that are hodling them just loose mone. People need to learn how to trade, so it may help market to become profitable again.

I think there will still be a new growth in the cryptocurrency market, as there are new ICO projects, people invest their money in order to make more money on them. Ensuring a carefree future and I do not think that this is a kind of pyramid that will soon collapse, no, this is not so, this is a little different. And soon the market will begin its new growth as it will not fall below that critical level. And in general there can not be a constant fall, there will definitely be an increase.

No growth in a couple of years? Couple of years means 10 years and above so it will not take that long before we see the growth we all waiting for cryptocurrency. 5 years from now is enough for bitcoin to reach above $50,000 where all altcoins with potential will follow where its price will multiple above above 20 times. 2018 is the year for crypto regulation reviews or observation from the SEC so it will not take that long before we can see a proper regulation in the market.

there is a possibility that the market will not grow in the next 2 years. there should be 2 or 3 new products that can re-awaken interest in the cryptocurrency market.

I think growth will happen but i think before the growth will happen there must be something that will trigger the growth to happen, the truth is that the crypto space needs fresh investors into the space to stern the crypto market to go high and i think ETF could be that trigger factor, so lets believe and hope for the better.

Argue about what? Are you not tired right now because I am. I am watching the value of my entire portfolio crash so hard right now that the only energy I have is to keep myself from actually selling my coins at a low price. Yes the consensus is that the coins will go back up but then there is going to be a long wait for that which I am not exactly happy about

Everyone who believes in the tech are bound to believe in crypto and its teething pains. Blockchain is here to stay and the future prospects bound to be bright.

The market is falling and we cannot do something about it. The only option that is left is to be patient and to wait. This market is for sure manipulated by some whales, that want to drop a lot of people before a big pump.

Recovery can be fast but there is also a possibility that it will be a long process.It is better not to dwell on the whole market and pay attention to many coins that can really grow very much.Even in the red market will definitely be good coins that can give x. I have no doubt.

It seems to me that cryptography is only gaining momentum, many projects are really worthwhile and not so much under control funds ... so I think that the market will soon turn green)))

Capitalization is one of the vital factors concerning the present market.We have been experiencing one after another bear flag and the price seems to get dipped every time.Now the actual capitalization has not yet started so we need to look for some more time till the bulls take control of the market.Prices gets dipped then move left right and again waterfall comes thus it only indicates that more fall yet to happen.In december already many hard forks are being scheduled and still things are not getting upto the desired mark.Accumulation phase has already started its only matter of time for few approvals.