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Hello I didn't know anything about trading until I first started trading monero on poloniex when it was like $5. Now I've learned a lot just from trading and mining crypto but my only experience is with crypto.

So I guess this is backwards but now I would like to try trading or investing outside of crypto....is that stocks?...see I have no clue what everything is called. Are there trading sites like bittrex etc?

what is the differences between a crypto exchange and a "stock exchange" that trades in dollars? Do you have to provide ID? Are they easier to fund in dollars?

Is there anything like a Trade Satoshi where I can just practice with small amounts?

Thanks for any information

Thats really generalised question and it could take up few pages to answer everything in detail however I will respond in bullets.
First of all crypto exchanges and stocks exchange are really two different sides of the coin. Stock exchanges are contained of different commodities, which are based on the real world usage of them and thus there prices are very much controlled under the government powers. They decide the prices based on the trades that are going on within the country, national and international trades and much more.

While on the other hand crypto currency exchanges which are made up of different digital assets (currency really) is part of virtual world where people are putting their own money willingly in it. This is based on the decentralised model and thus everything runs on the public ledgers. Know that crypto coins get their prices solely from the public fundings, and how they are buying and selling them and nothing else. There is no influencing body and nothing else can derive the prices.

Stocks for sure you will need your verified accounts, KYC and stuff and everything is traceable.

Crypto you may or may not need your ID's provided to start with the trades.

If you want to get feel for the crypto trading then visit HitBTC demo trading platform. However dont use the HitBTC for real trades.

In my opinion the fundamental and technical analysis between stocks and crypto is more or less the same.

Basically crypto is more volatile than a stock, but more or less it still follows trends, and patterns such as moving average, fibonacci, support, resistance, supply, demand, etc.

However they are very different in other ways.

Stocks don't trade 24 hours like Crypto, stock market opens at 930AM EST and closes at 2PM EST. Usually the pre and after market have very little liquidity unless its some earnings report.

Stocks you only have max 3.333x leverage and there are rules if you want to day trade or not. Crypto doesn't have these restrictions.

Stocks you need a regulated broker and you need to prove your identify and link your bank account. You can't just send them cash like you would with a Bitcoin ATM.

NEVER TRADE ON HITBTC FOR REAL TRADES.

Now the regulations in place differ widely for the country of your stock trades. Also there are multiple instruments to check. Better read up on the published materials of the securities regulator in your nation.

There are crypto trading and fiat trading, fiat trading are stocks, etf, binary option, cfd, forex and other, the difference between crypto and fiat trading is the factors that drive the price go up and down, in fiat trading we need to consider the economic, politic and other things, and in fiat you need to provide all documents, and you are bound by regulation

Trading in the stock market is less risky compared to trading Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. I don't thnk that you can profit on day trading in stocks compared to crypto because the stock market is less volatile and doesn't move as crypto market does. Most of the stock investments are for long term. It is ok to diversify your capital in stock market but I don't think that day trading is profitable there.

I think stock exchange have regulation, it is what not crypto have. In my country, stock or securities trading have some regulation, and capital to do it is fixed by that, in my country minimal of $10000 is needed to join legal stock and securities exchange.

mid and longterm stock will follow the fundamentals, that's the big diference.
In crypto there are actualy no fundamentals; if you hold it you are just betting that people will continue to buy.
In stocks you check the fundamentals of the company. If the company continues to grow the stock WILL GROW. So if the structure and the "gameplan" of the company is good, it is much, much less of a bet.

I've not really traded outside of Cryptocurrencies. But it's something I'm really looking forward to getting involved in. I got in talks with a friend about trading in other markets like forex. According to what I got from him, He said the trading patterns are quite similar with just minor differences here and there. I might get on the train soon.

These are the two different types of trading, as replied above stock market is all based on real world commodities.
In earlier years i have been in stock trading, it has low risks but also lower profits while in crypto trading you have 50% risk but also higher profits

If you really want to trade outside of crypto then you should be training yourself how to be patient since you can't have pumps there over night and would make you wait for years.

Actualy there is an small similarity of crypto investment trading into stock investment trading when we comparing the way or process of trading,because doing an stock exchange is putting some capital or fiat  on thats stock to buy that you want to invest and like the crypto also its affected the happen in the exchange market,because there also market in stock exchange that if those product of  thats you invest would pump then you can gain a good profit and vice versa will happen if the stock would dump,and same also crypto you can sell your stock if you quits into this kind of investment.

Yes, mutual funds and stocks can be traded just like cryptocurrencies, though it has stricter regulations and a lot of prerequisites before you can trade them. The stock market is subject to a lot of laws and regulations concerning fraud, money laundering and manipulation, so some of the concepts you knew in trading cryptocurrencies (like pump and dumps) don't and won't apply in there. It's also relatively safer and easier to do compared to trading in crypto as the changes in price isn't really that big and volatility is not that aggressive.

Firstly, cryptocurrency more volatile, so price can increase by 500% within 1 hour unlike stock market. The fact that cryptocurrency is decentralized causes the price to be more volatile. But the stock market can be managed and you can not make a huge profit like cryptocurrency.

This link would give you an idea between two things. https://hackernoon.com/crypto-trading-vs-stock-trading-three-main-differences-851c1fdf082b
These things are just similar on general yet it do involves buy and sell but the only thing that they do differ is on price volatility and  Centralized things vs Decentralized.
Exchangers = Crypto either Dex/Centralized --- On stocks then you would called them as Brokers which is heavily regulated.

And you can make sure high profit in forex trading too. Forex trade is a fiat digital trade, regulated by government, meaning documents are provided, verified by the broker through the internet. Is also a high profit market and with high risk.

Stock market is not a simple technique because most of the investors are starting to share market it is the basic foundation of the stock exchange. If you gain some knowledge in share market it is really helpful your future stock market and finally before to start any plan you will ask some expert suggestions but you also trying to improve some skills it will help for your future journey.

if you wanna invest or trade in the stock market, I think you should find other forums to ask. This is crypto forum and there is rarely experts can help you

I did not see as a backward as stocks market is still very highly profitable.  I sometimes go back to forex market and do contact my brokers to see if there are opportunities for investing.  Cryptocurrencies market is very risky for day trading and you have to be extremely skillful to succeed in it.

There are lots of instruments to trade. The main categories are stocks, options, futures, forex, bonds and commodities. Stay away from binary options.....they're a hustle.

These markets tend to be less volatile than BTC. That's why people use high leverage or trade leveraged ETFs. Outside of cryptocurrency, I only trade stocks and commodities, and I only do so on higher time frames (like the 1-day chart) since there's so much noise the more you zoom in.

You can practice trading on demo accounts on platforms like Oanda and AvaTrade. I trade "real" markets using Interactive Brokers. To trade real money, you generally will need to provide ID. The exception is CFD brokers like SimpleFX (deposit and withdraw with crypto), but I would advise against these sites after 1Broker was recently shut down.

Crypto and stock trading has a lot of differences. I may not have enough knowledge in stock market since I havent tried to engage into it yet, but I have read a few stuff about the stock market.
One of the quotable difference between the two is, Stock market bears lesser risks than cryptocurrency, yet cryptocurrency could be more profitable in a daily basis, when properly handled by an experienced trader. Meaning to say cryptocurrency are very volatile compared with stock.

I personally have never traded in other than crypto. but I once asked someone who traded on the stock exchange. he said trading on the stock exchange was more stable and predictable, especially fiat currencies. because this is regulated by the state. different in crypto, all regulating prices are individuals. for ID I think it's all the same, asking for ID. but to start trading, I think it's easier to crypto, because it can start trading with a small nominal.

I never thought of trading outside crypto without bitcoins  and ofcourse  crypto currency‘s have given me a lot of profit and all, aslo I don’t have much knowledge about Forex and  stock trading.

Trading is generally risky if you do not have what it takes to trade effectively and by that I am referring to knowledge. Trading in stocks and cryptocurrency are more like the same thing anyway and as long as the OP has been doing fine here in the crypto space, then, he should be able to do well in the stock space.

The thing however, he will need to understand how he can get started with trading stock markets, do some diggings on some of the things he would need to know about where to trade, what to trade, and what not to trade. Every market has its own risks, and it is the understanding of these risks and knowing how to manage them is what would make you thrive in that sphere in the long run.

I may think that you've found something great in outside crypto investment.
Crypto trading somewhat similar to real stock investment, thus in needs money to start with. In terms of risky level, we might say that crypto on the top among others.

If you really want to go outside crypto, you will have to understand where you are going into in the first place and all the perks involved. The main reason why you have done so well in crypto trading and mining was because you did your research had to learn some few things to start getting something substantial from it in the long run.

Stock market, Forex or any other market is something you really want to do some study on your own, get to know what it is all about and how you can go about either trading in any of them before you even go ahead. They are totally different worlds and you have to thread them based on the knowledge of that particular space.

I agree with you on this one. The knowledge on trading from crypto is transferable to any market but like you say one has to be mindful that the stock markets for example are not as volatile as what we see with crypto.

Trading stocks in Forex and trading crypto in Poloinex, Bittrex, Binance and sort of these are somehow similar, except with the amount of risk associated and the amount of money which you can initially trade. Trading crypto is much riskier than trading in Forex, because the latter is regulated and requires brokers, unlike with crypto. Secondly, stocks in Forex is liquid, since it represents a tangible share in a company which you chose to invest your money in and to grow, unlike with crypto which is illiquid; reason why it is more volatile than the stocks in Forex. The only thing that's good about trading crypto is that it is "very mass". When I say very mass, what I mean is even those who have little funds and little knowledge about it can dive in, unlike with Forex where you have to undergo seminars/trainings and you really have to have a real deal of money to enter in. Well, at least with crypto, we all have our fair share of opportunity to make money unlike with Forex trading.

Well, since you are so familiar with cryptocurrency, and cryptocurrency exchanges. Then you should not have a question about stock, commodity exchanges. Also Forex market. The essence is the same, only different assets with their strategies. And of course brokers. If you want to trade shares, please download any platform, and on a demo account. At random everyone will understand!

Thinking something different from University is always welcome mobil for all of us so investing outside of Crypto is a good idea for and good investors to choose but the way up to see is very very important in my opinion to sing and thinking is very straight forward and intelligent full for us.

What's the point of starting with penny stocks when most crypto currencies that people can trade here are just as speculative and worthless? It's even a waste of time in my opinion.

Technically speaking, short term minded traders don't and shouldn't care about what they trade, it's all about catching the opportunities that the volatility in a specific market offers, and crypto is more than perfect for that.

If one coin is slowing down, then you simply go to the next one. There is no shortage of coins offering volatility, not even during the current bear market. You learn by diving in the crypto market, not by trading stocks first.

Every beginner loses with trading initially, even with stocks.

i dunno, i started off trading crypto years ago. i still trade it (mostly futures), but i love me some penny stocks too. lots of 10-baggers and whales trades to be made in the pink sheets. i also trade a bit of forex, and until recently also traded CFDs for commodities on 1broker.

trading altcoins sucks in a bear market. and a lot of people aren't cut out for futures. the other options for shorting aren't too appetizing. (like bitfinex......bitfinex and tether get subpoenas, phil potter leaves, after years of unlicensed money transmitting in the USA? no thanks)

if you like speculative whale trades (like small cap altcoins), there are lots of fun markets to trade. no reason to limit yourself to crypto, especially given how insecure exchanges are. when crypto was in a lull like this in 2015, lots of the gung ho crypto traders from 2013-14 moved onto other markets. nothing wrong with that!

It's depend from how deep is your understanding, the pattern can be in a same way and if you really love dealing with trading then you can work it out
and enhance your capabilities to follow the flow, this two venue can be sort using your deep research and monitoring the progress of ay assets that you  are investing with, assessing and analyzing are pare of skills that needed in order to survive and enjoy the market barely needed to keep this two in the places when you most needed it to lessen the chances of losing your entire investment.

If you want a practice trading you need to imagine if you want to trade outside of crypto to learn some how mistakes that you do in trading.

if you are in trading in crypto currency‘s you will come to know that about all the charts and signals and  this can help you too a lot in forex and other types of trading.

That is were many of investors are losing money.  The reality is that you should demo and practicing before putting in your hard earned money into any readable assets such as bitcoin, forex, commodities and betting.  Opportunities are out there and your skills is what put money into your pocket.

i think learning a good demo, but don't study too long in it. certainly will have a different level of psychology. i think this is a basic lesson for all the trades you mention. too confident is not good either

A lot of question but I should say please do some research before start it, you don't have basic knowledge. Information about trading in every platform or news is need to know before enter the market. We can't explain one by one because trading is more like " DO " not " READ ". Never forget to practice to know market works and see you there.

Trading outside of crypto, I guess you mean forex or binary trading, cause that’s the two things you can trade outside of crypto trading and they are quite similar to each others. You just need a little training on how it works to be able to understand and trade them.

I have tried forex trading once, but it wasn’t really much of what I expected then, so I decided to quit. And like I said, there isn’t much difference between them. I believe if I go back to that this time around I will also make good profit from every trade.

We can find a trading platform that fits us, for me I love crypto because it's more profitable here, I am not saying all the time
but based on my experience, I have made a good profit investing during the early days. I should focus on crypto as the more I stay here
I learn something that could help me be more confident.

I think there are two things wrong with what you are trying to achieve. First of all this is crypto forum, this is "bitcoin"talk so whatever you are trying to do outside of bitcoin you should go do it on their forums and learn from them, we here are bitcoin traders and not stock traders.

However if we put that aside you should also know that if you want to trade stocks that will not be similar to bitcoin. In crypto we have huge swings so there are people who keep making money and who keep losing money and everything in between, in stocks things move much slower so you will not see these kinds of moves. People who make %20 in stocks considered to be genius whereas %20 is easy to achieve in bitcoin, up or down.

As far as I know, there are advantages and disadvantages trading in crypto or stock exchange. Stock exchange is more regulated and legalized than crypto exchange. Based on my knowledge, the major thing that affects the price of the product your holding in stock exchange is the economy level while in crypto, the price is always driven by the trader by following TA and FA results. If you wanted to invest in stock exchange, you better ask an assistance to a professionals or consult your bank because they always offer this type of investment.

I've not really traded outside of Cryptocurrencies.I think trading is generally risky. if you want to trade outside of crypto.but we should need to understand how he can get started with trading.too confident is not good other.

You can also trade in stock exchange and hope that you will find it better than crypto trading. In crypto trading you can only trade in those currencies in which you invest your money, while in stock exchange you can buy and sell any product shares just in seconds. But don’t be greedy because greedy people always lose their money in stock and in crypto trading.

Then why are you commenting here to increase your post count? ::)

Any type of speculative market is risky. Be it stocks, bonds, securities, cryptocurrencies, gambling, commodities. All of them.

LOL get started with what? Like walk into an exchange and ask them how to make money? You guys really make me laugh.

You have no idea what you are talking about. The ICOs provide you with tokens that can be compared to the stock markets shares. So in that way they are similar. Pumping and dumping is also the same and FUD marketing is also same.

Thats always true.

It means that you have no idea of any other trading apart from cryptos. If you are making good money from crypto trading then there is no need to search other places for trading. Continue in crypto trading, although it is risky but it is also very profitable. You can make big profits in the future when the price raises little bit. Patience and coolness in needed for crypto trading.

Well, I know only a little about stocks trading, as I'm interested mostly in crypto. The procedure of trading on a stock exchange and a crypto one is practically the same. The difference lies in what you trade.
On stocks, you could practice with small portions like it's usually done at crypto exchanges such as CEX (https://cex.io/) or Bittrex.

If you decide to search trading platforms outside of cryptocurrency, I just wondering, does cryptocurrency not give you any profit? If you know already the ins and outs of cryptocurrency, don't hedge another place to gain money. Expect you have the advantage to focus on two jobs and you consistently run them simultaneously. I have been trading on forex, when I compare between trading forex and cryptocurrency then cryptocurrency has a high volatility. And you need ID card to create a forex account.

Actually, when it comes to volatility and the fact that it is a new market, I would say cryptocurrency is actually a very good place to be trading and why look for other markets that would restrict you to a better profit as long as you have the knowledge to do so. Now, that the market is young, I guess it is a good thing to be taking advantage of the volatility.

Actually, crypto has given a lot of people the chance to have a feel of what market is all about and how they can go about trading the markets to be at an advantage. Forex is good, stocks is great but at the end, you just need knowledge to be able to do right and there is nothing bad actually with diversifying anyway. I believe most people here already having portfolio which might cover gold, bonds and government securities too. Hence, trading outside crypto is not a bad idea ;).

Unlike others at least you said you don`t know much about stock trading, most of others comments are of topic. For trading with stocks you need to be a broker or to have one, you need a licence for doing that, that`s why crypto trading attracted so many people, simply you don`t need anything except internet and some money, everything else is a piece of cake, you register on any exchange platform or on several and you sell and buy as you wish and when you wish, from that will depend will you have profit or not. There are forex and similar trading platforms, I never had anything with that because I think it`s one big scam, they are yelling about profit everywhere they can, they promise big earning, but we all know that it`s not going like that. Crypto trading is free trading and anyone can practice it, you can start with 5 or 5000 dollars, for every other kind of trading you will need a bunch of money just for start, here you can build your own way.

Trading outside crypto is way too different.There are lot more option with different categories Soo the choice becomes vast and risk factor also increases.The basic thing that you have to understand if you wanna start trading in stock market is excessive knowledge of the companies and commodity with exact news and trends.With all this info you can atleast understand the process.

It does not actually have to be only Forex or binary trading, with binary trading even not being a good option for me actually, and only a professional trader should go that lane. There are other available options like stocks that anyone can trade but at the end of the day for someone to be able to trade in some of these other markets and most especially market like stocks; you really need some pretty good bucks.

For Forex, however, you can decide to start with any amount that you please, but whichever way, the only thing with trading is that they require the same level of knowledge about analysis to be able to do well.

And if you feel you have the skills in crypto and you are doing good then you should focus.
It's important not to be greedy here because once you are not focus your future is not gonna good.
With the big market in crypto, I think anyone can stay here and make money as much as he want if he is capable.

so many stock exchanges are running today. you only need to choose, like instaforex, forex, fbs, etc. I think there are limits to stock trading and it's more expensive than crypto trading. All trades I think will ask for ID for the security of your assets. and in my opinion it is best to invest in real assets, such as houses, land, gold, etc.

If you want to trade outside of crypto, you should research or have a knowledge in having investing there. Just like in cryptocurrency it is also risky but stock exchange is a good investment, you can have a mutual funds if you want to invest there.

In stock market you have thousands of options of buying shares of different companies. In my view stock trading is much easier than crypto trading, because there you can sell your shares anytime you want but in crypto you may not find buyers easily. Investors also look the market trend and the price on which they want to buy crypto. Stock market is not like crypto market.

Yes cryptocurrency trade shares a lot in similitude with forex trade, but there is usually an edge, if coming from forex trade. So far if your cryptocurrency trade have revolved just around buy and hold and little or no experience with margin trade, then there's still a lot of learning to be done. Be sure you fully understood the meaning of these two words: margin and leverage before taking a shot at forex, because the playgrounds are not exactly same. However there's the good news that you can without sweat lay hands on demo accounts for practice and learning.

It's just a hassle in trading outside crypto, because you need more requirements to do it so. This can be stressing many people to gamble their liabilities, which I think risky for all traders. Real asset is proven effective, and since the market outside crypto is still on going development I guess it would go further in the next few years so as with crypto. Choosing outside crypto is everybody's preference, but moreover it crypto is a very surprising aspect of investments.

If you trade outside of crypto, if market is down, does everyone lose similar to like crypto when everything is down?  Example say all coins are down for a few days etc.  Well could it be possible to be up with other things?

Besides crypto trading we have other choices as well that is in the traditional trading with products either of daily use or on country basis huge trades. Furthermore, a person can invest in stock market which will also generate profit but every business needs time to give you profit and you have to be prepare for everything. I prefer real estate business in which Bitcoin has entered as payment mode which is now more productive.

Yeah it is right stock market is good than crypto trading. I have some experience of stock trading. It is easier than crypto trading. The market of cryptocurrency is limited compare to stock market. You don’t have much chances of earning money in crypto market. On the other hand stock exchange gives you more chances for your investment. You can make good profit in stock market.

There are many source besides crypto trading as we had the only traditional trading before the crypto world and we have still that tradition which is running on its way besides crypto world towards success. If you want to switch in to the traditional trading again then you can start from now but mind of a real trader says that trading with multiple sources is better than a single one.

Its not necessarily related but to some extent its seems thats they are related. Like for example the precious metal markets and the crypto markets seem to reciprocate each other. When bitcoin drops gold rises - it can be assumed that gold traders sold some bitcoins to buy gold. Its all a type of  juggling game as to what asset you can hold for long and what you have confidence in.

My suggestion would be to consider diversifying your earnings into different sectors. One may try out the metal market and the stock commodities market apart from crypto.

In my opinion trading outside crypto is only in stock exchange. There are also many trading companies but that need more time and money. If you want to trade outside cryptocurrency, you should invest in stock exchange. There you will be able to make money in seconds because of the huge variety and quantity of shares of different companies and quick buying and selling.

If you are already used to trading in crypto, then I wouldn't recommend moving over to more traditional routes, sure, there's more stability, but there is also much less potential for short term profit. The traditional stock and forex markets rarely fluctuate by more than 2-3% in a day, and you would need to be lucky to catch those, whereas cryptocurrencies typically fluctuate by at least 1-2% every hour!

I did stocks trading and crypto trading at the same times, and to make easy to handle it i make open potition by each 2. In stocks market, all asset to trade with pair fiat. The different between crypto and stocks is the price action, in crypto when Bitcoin up or down trend all altcoin will follow it, but in stocks market is not. But the stocks market only open 7 hours aday from monday to friday.

the basics are similar, in fact how crypto market traded is evolve from stock market. however some most of the aspect is adjusted. like trend, trading platform, what stock/commodities/etc (coin) you trading, time, market movement. a similar game but different meta.

Holla, I have just tried trading with binex.trade n it give me profit, anyone can try trading on that platform it is simple n awesome you just have to wait for right time to  start trade anyways m happY😁:

why did you said that we must never use Hitbtc platform? is there any issues now?
does there transaction fee is too high for the traders who will make the actual trade on there platform site?
In my experienced  so far in doing crypto trade was gave me a good profit in the mean time.
Which means even up to now I don't have any problems in it instead, it helped to the fullest.

Why? The fact you are trading in crypto and doing pretty well if you have a good strategy does not mean, you cannot at least diversify into every other form of investment.

I started trading Forex, and then moved into stocks and now into cryptocurrency but did I say because I have been doing well in Forex, I should not move into these other two areas? No! It is called being versatile and diversifying as well which helps you to even spread your investment risk across board but it is always a good thing to not just only know how to trade effectively, but to also know every single details of the market and the fundamentals of the market you want to be getting into as they really do matter in you doing well.

Yes, it is possible. When the crypto is down, you have plenty of choices outside this market.

I personally profer Forex trading even more than stocks.

each market has their own advantages , disadvantages and their own feature.and also stocks market or cryptocurrency market has own profit and loss potency. but as long as we have skills i think we could earn profit easily.

Trading inside or outside crypto still all balls down to the general knowledge you have about trading and the strategy you have to be able to pull through and it all depends on how you are able to take advantage of those opportunities that comes lurking within those space.

For those who do not have the proper understanding, skills and experience, it would always end up being the same thing at the end of it all. It is a good thing however to at least diversify as long as you know what you are doing, either stock market or Forex or wherever you want to be diversifying into, just make sure you get yourself familiar with that environment first.

HitBTC has had some shady past history from the experience of people in this forum. However you cannot draw a conclusion directly from that. People often get disgruntled on issues they have even if they might be petty and then make some bad comments about them. Cant help those kids you love to be keyboard warriors. But jokes apart, please do your own research on them before you put in money.

Withdraw fees of hitbtc are high compared to other exchanges.  ;)

Did you make big money in cryptocurrency trade or lost big money and now you want to shift to another trading place? If not so then I suggest that crypto trading is best than all other trading. It is not share of a company but a currency and if you have no trading experience, no problem. Hold your coins for some time and when the price raise more sell them for higher price.

If its your dream to trade in the stock market then you need to do more in getting information as it relates to your locality because the prerequisites to trade in that market differs from country to country. For example where I am, to trade on the stock market requires that one is a member of a professional body and licensed to carry such a trade. This is put in place in other to ensure that only qualified people are operating in the market and that they are expected to behave in certain ways otherwise their licenses can be revoked.

The stock market is very much different from the crypto market in terms of first entry. While $5 dollars can grant you entry in the crypto space, there is no room for that in the stock market.

While I do not advocate breaking any laws. the First Global Credit Exchange (https://trading.firstglobalcredit.com/register) which is being rebranded as Panxora (https://www.panxora.com) supports crypto deposits in BTC, BCH, LTC, ETH, ETC to back stock trading in 500 stocks from the US, UK, Germany and HK. Also currency against BTC and USD. I am one of the founders and we have been providing uninterupted service since 2014.

Dafuq are you talking about shitposting newbie? You dont have to teach me how to trade or what to trade. I didnt spend my years in crypto knowing nothing or learning nothing. Of course I should not expect a shitposter who quotes entire posts and posts garbage to get paid is going to ever read or comprehend. ::)

Thanks for the advice but thats what I have been hearing since all these years and still people tend to make the same mistake of buying high and then selling low because of panic and getting FOMOed.

Stocks is actually an interesting market to trade but it is somehow limited in a way, so you may not really have much access to it. Forex on the other hand is another market that has been on for a very long time, and as long as you know what you are doing, combining the markets you can handle all together is not always a bad idea.

What is important is for you to always be able to make quality decisions whether as an investor or as a trader so you do not get to lose all your investments in the long run and it takes knowledge to be able to achieve this which if you do not make a priority, you will have yourself to blame for how things turn out eventually.

Huh! Now that's a real panic button pressed for those who have accounts with Hitbtc. But that isn't denying the truth that Hitbtc has some shady thing going on. I, for one, don't like the exchange for its exorbitant charges.

On the OP, I think he should dive into Forex Trading. It's an already regulated industry unlike cryptocurrency. Forex has a daily market turnover of over $5 trillion (cryptocurrency is still struggling with a mere $210 billion. Not even up to a quarter of One trillion.) And yes, you do need a compulsory KYC before getting started.

That's one of their bad side, the withdrawal fee is not competitive, way above compared to other legit sites.
I am still a user of this exchange, never get tired of using because it never scammed me, when I have issues, it can be resolve easily.
Their cheapest I guess is the Ripple withdrawal fee.

Not a bad idea at all, having a platform that serves as a bridge between the cryptocurrency space and the stock market in most of the well developed markets with good stock. Trading outside crypto however totally depends on each individual anyway and the knowledge they have about the space they are getting into.

It is one thing to imagine that you know what it is about cryptocurrency and you have been trading it for years and it is another thing to actually know some of the rules within that space you want to be adhering to. Stock market is a whole lot of ball game entirely when compared to crypto and what is important is to just familiarize yourself with that space.

Trading in stocks or stock market is very much different from trading cryptos. In stock markets, positive news really have a big impact in the stocks price thats why in some countries, a company would even go to dirty tactics like hiring someone who will hype up the product or the idea while in cryptos, its very rare that positive news will affect the price of Bitcoin, more likely, fud and other negative news are out there.

The stock market is a highly speculative bubble. Some people argue that crypto is a similar speculative bubble but I dont trust anybody but listen to my instincts regarding them. Its true the stock markets are manipulated and if you go through the life stories of some big investors you will notice that they actually pre-bought or pre-sold their stocks when markets were going the opposite way. This was because they were told by companies how the market is going to move. This seemed too good to be true but I think it is true and that how people made money from the market.

On the other hand crypto is not that predictable. You have move according to how the news is going and take decisions withing split seconds.

A whole lot of choices I must say, from Forex to stocks, options and so many more that you can always take advantage of. A lot of people are not really familiar with some of these environment as cryptocurrency actually was the main thing that opened the eyes of so many people to trading after Forex, but the crazy thing is that people are always just busy not taking the right steps in getting themselves familiar with the space they are getting into and also learning how to make trading decisions in those environment which is what has led so many people into losing their funds over the years.

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Stocks and cryptocurrency are both profitable and also risky.and another same characteristic is well manipulated by bigger investors.thats why i stopped trading and just made all my coin and tokens be in long term holding.i believe that in time i will become millionaire just by trusting cryptocurrencies

If I were you mate, you must think this more than twice because trading outside the crypto is much difficult I think than crypto, because in stock market as far as I know it is less volatile rather than crypto, which means you will be stuck in there and you don't when you are going to take action again. so, it is still better to remain on crypto trading dude.

Trading in the stock market is a whole lot big game entirely and you will always have to follow some procedures to be able to get that done. Stock market generally is a much matured market and can be easy to trade as long as you have an understanding of the market, know what you are doing and you have a perfect strategy to always trade the market.

However it is you will really need to understand the rules of other markets know all the necessary perks and then be able to put that information together to have an informed decision on how you want to go ahead.

You dont need to. Just read what others posted before you and you will get an idea. Dont expect the OP to come back to respond to you because these are generic shitposting threads after it crosses 5+pages of replies. ;D

You wont become a millionaire. People think like that because they have a lot of enthusiasm when they enter a new market. So thats giving you euphoria but it wont be long till it gets over. Of course putting your money in crypto does not guarantee but its profitable if you know what you are getting into and if you know how to trade you coins for profits on every bull/bear cycle.

I was try all kind of trading, firstly i jumped in to forex margin trading but i thinking hard to make profit from it, and then i was try binary option trading but the result also bad. Then my friend suggest me to learn spot trading, that is crypto and stocks trading. He said that will be less risk , because there are no margin. We can do this all kind of trading just by use technical analysis and no need to know all about the fundamental of the asset. In crypto there are pump dump trading, and in stocks market that thing also exist because low market cap of stocks easy to pump and dump the price.

You may have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4835244

What do u mean by trading outside cryptosystem or crypto? Any trade which is outside cryptosystem is different from crypto. However, anybody that trade outside trade should known that it may profitable or other wise. The best trade and profitable one is crypto and not forex or any trade you can thing of.

The best option for trading outside of crypto is only stock exchange. If you have little bit experience of stock trading you can make big money because you can buy and sell anything anytime you want. There you will not search for buyers in the market. You can sell and buy different shares of different companies and of government sector easily.

When it comes to trading out side crypto, it can be anything that you can make money out of. Depends on how much capital you have to invest and start trading with. Big gains could also be earned by stepping into the auction market. Businesses like real estate are very famous for imparting millions to your current account. Literally invest in any business that you feel you can earn with it. Eventually everything boils down to the profit margin that you can earn.

You can search with google to find many financial instrument for your trading action. This day many information about anything ( specially about financial ) already prepare and listing on google, you only need make time to search. All practice start with small amounts and never increase the quantity before get better quality. Learn with your tools and asset to get experience but before that please make time to learn financial works and market risk. 

Why would he search for that when crypto trading is all we need. Easy access, easy understanding, so many people ready to share their experience here on forum and various groups on telegram, twitter, discord, practically you can find good tips about crypto trading on many places.
I agree with you that practice should be with small amounts before starting with some serious money. Quality always before quantity!

for stock exchanges I'm not too sure and I don't want to try there because I see it's too high risk, I prefer to try it at the cryptocurrency exchange because in my opinion it's more profitable and the supply circulation is also very clear so that traders can be comfortable when trading at the place of cryptocurrency exchange.

From the context, it is obvious what he is referring to is trading in other markets apart from cryptocurrency and in this case, we are either talking about the stock or Forex market as the case may be or any other market entirely. What is important at any market you want to trade is basically the knowledge you have to trade them as well as your familiarity with such environment.

You obviously cannot just hit a doctor profession to start performing surgical operations without even understanding what you are doing and the changes in your environment. Trading outside crypto may be called diversifying, but at the same time, just be sure you know what you are doing.

I've not really traded outside of Cryptocurrencies.Its true the stock markets are manipulated.you only need make time to investigation and then you have a perfect strategy to always trade the market.

I don't really understand about stock trading, but some of the things that I know are indeed seen from anything that is very similar to the crypto market, but he said here the value of shares is very dependent on the performance of what the company can do, some say that stocks are investments who have little risk because the people who join in are those who are experts in several fields both analysis, management and others.

Yeah things are kind of similar these days. Its far more easier to trade here in the crypto currencies rather than in the stock exchanges now. Though crypto is unpredictable and can not be overlooked to trade then also its far more better because it can give us the returns which are unimaginable for the stock exchanges. At the one side stock exchanges move slowly with tortoise speed while crypto currencies can get big halts in their movement but followed by huge Kangaroo leaps. They can be 100 times more stronger than stocks in terms of giving us returns and thus make us more money than earlier.

Stock exchange most of the time is actually more like a matured market when compared to cryptocurrency but they are basically like in the same vein, except that the volatility is a whole lot different. Trading other market is not a bad idea, as I have always loved the idea of diversifying anyway, but the thing is that you just do not want to opt in an environment without at least getting a full glimpse of what that environment is like. It is not just about trading in this case, you also have to understand the rules, the news and some other technical and fundamental stuffs pertaining the market, which if you do not have can be disastrous in most cases.

In my opinion cryptocurrency is the best place for trading. If you don’t have trading experience, it means that you cannot trade in any field. So it is better to stay in crypto and try to learn as soon as possible. If you have trading experience, you can make good money from crypto trading. You can also join stocks and forex and so many others for making money in short time.