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Bitcoin was developed by satoshi and most people who uses blockchain knows it.  The price/value is fluctuating up and down but still a gem.

However,  shitcoins are trash,  if the developers has a good motive and has a sincere heart and knowledgeable enough by making the coin/token be valuable as bitcoin then they can beat it.

 But,  their thinking is not to be the leading, just greediness overflowing. 

So, to investors and those who wants to be an investor, be careful by choosing. Study short term and long term investment. It has a big difference. 

Any other integration or supplementation from my statement? 

Bitcoin is not nearly as volatile as it was couple of years ago. It is maturing quickly and is more or less impervious to manipulations. It's a gem alright.


As implied, 'shit'coins are trash. I think you meant to write alts, and if so, there are lots of good alts out there, but BTC is the pioneer digital asset.
But a good motive and a sincere heart is not enough to beat BTC.

A lot of alts are more practical with more use cases.
But BTC is the top in terms of adoption and circulation, and also has the highest value.
It is the safest crypto investment in my opinion.


I personally avoid any project which is not suitable for long term investments. If the creator does not have future targets and goals, I don't consider it a worthy investment.
A currency which is profitable for the long-term can also be viable as a short-term investment.

I am agree with you. If the project or product had very nice road map, then only we can consider long term investment. For short term investment, It requires more money to invest otherwise we can not catch the profit.

It does not matter if it is about investments or getting money. The market is now speculative rather than a reliable new technique for making payments.
As long as you get a lot of money in a short period, It does not matter if these currencies have a substantial value or not so.
This kind of approach is happening right now, and we need either awareness by trading platform managers "it will not happen" or regulatory laws.


If we want to talk about "solid value," most of the advantages are available in less than five cryptocurrencies.

Yes, exactly in short-term investments we need more money as compared to long-term investment. That's why most of the time we make long-term investment.

Bitcoin and all other crypto coins are not fluctuating as before. In the future this will be further reduced. The market will balance with time.

yes you r correct first of all the project should have good road map and it should have more value in crypto market when you trust the coin u can invest on the coin... 8)

I agree with your opinion. While greed is rampant, ICOs are not useful, scams appear more and more causing the market to be disturbed, investors lose confidence in the crypto or to exchange important knowledge to determine Invest in any ICO that you think is potential. Bitcoin is considered to be of no value at the time of its appearance, but with its application and its incorporation in blockchain technology it has established itself as a leading crypto.

I think next year we will see a lot of improvements for Bitcoin that people can use according to their wishes. I think in the future there will be a lot of competition for getting a transaction in the block. I think it is important to have time to update Bitcoin before halving.

An investor with a long term vision to realize massive gains can consider bitcoins since it will yield more than an investor who will be looking to a short term profit from bitcoins. Bitcoins at short term might be disappointing but in the longer run it has a solid value.

It was developed by Satoshi to be P2P, to be used as a medium - micropayment.


They crashed the party, shitcoins started to grow but majority of them died as well because there's no purposed whatsoever, just pump-and-dump with no real usage.


Its because there's a lot of money to be made here, so everyone became greedy. But don't worry I think everyone is getting smarter and they will take out the minute they notice that a project is a scam. And thanks to the forum for calling out scammy ICO before they have the chance to victimised potential investors.

why shitcoin can't beat Bitcoin. Because it is on the same platform but has a different one. and Bitcoin is a pioneer of crypto currencies. Shitcoin / tokens are currently only for making instant profits. and that destroys the crypto market that survives. and that is not an investment place, but for a place of meaningless speculation.

No coin can beat bitcoin on the top of crypto currency and yes before to invest we should need to study and learn what is short term and long term investment and how big the risk if you choose altcoin or bitcoin. Many people or investors did not do risk assessment that is why their not gaining a profir they are greedy person only want is to earn quickly.

Of course, there are many things that must be considered by every investor when they will choose crypto to store their assets, meeting with bad altcoin developers is a nightmare and very detrimental.

and satoshi is not part of a bad developer, satoshi was able to create bitcoin, the first digital currency that can survive until today, and will not be affected by the global crisis.

Yes, it's not fluctuating but as I seen with the current value it has stabilized but not increasing more than $6.5k which hinders the traders to invest for much higher expectations. Anyways there's much chances for everybody in sooner time, and the timeline is our best possible hope in achieving that goals for bitcoin as gaining the solid value.

Not really everyone who uses it knows what blockchain really is. Some just bought it to ride the hype and they just have it, that's all.

To be honest, It's impossible for them to beat bitcoin even they have a good motive and sincere heart. You just can't flagged down a big ship with your small army of altcoins that's unsure if there are people willing to buy and use it.

IMO, its better for them to go long term and while holding, study.

In crypto world btc is in top position because its value is just amazing, and it will increase more and more in coming days.

Yes i agree! many ICO projects are becoming a tool for greedy people who just wants to scam others by their shitcoins! People must be vigilant and make a lot of research to avoid these scammers. I think it can be stop if people is knowledgeable enough before investing.

I'm not agree for the short time investment,but obviously if we want to invest ICO product then can to do right. Actually we are know this knowledge everything ok need to long time investment for the good future profit.

I disagree with this statement. Now is just a period of decline, relative lull in the market and investor fatigue. Therefore, it creates the illusion that Bitcoin has become more or less stable in price. This cannot be due to the nature of a decentralized cryptocurrency. This period of relative calm will pass and Bitcoin will again begin to continue its usual ups and downs.

It is always good to be the first one.
Copies will not make it to be more valuable than the original.
All of this kind of tokens whether it is being used for natural resources or for car towing or anything. They are all just copies.
If bitcoin is not made then we are not talking here and we are also not discussing about any coins or tokens.

That's it. You want to invest? Then it will always be bitcoin at the top.

OP is right,  only if developer's will do the right thing in making good project platform that could be more useful same as btc and eth,  then such coin would become more adaptable by the investors. Currently,  btc is the most valuable cryptocurrency in the market and still the leading currency that no other coin could surpass it's achievement.

The big problem is, as Bitcoin gradually loses its inherent value (that is, its wide acceptance and use as a currency for transactions) – likely thanks to increasing transaction times and costs and other technical issues – it won't matter how scarce it is, it will become more and more worthless. The issuance halving algorithm to combat inflation is also far too simplistic (this is why central banks exist). These are fundamental issues that most don't realise.

Interesting project u want to be a part of it

Bitcoin for me is undistractible to the reason that however manipulators did bitcoins price to gies deep they don't succeeded as a matter of fact Bitcoin had continue to stay on its track.

great..  excited to join

I want you to know that the fluctuation in price of bitcoin was part of the plan which make bitcoin posed the attribute of making people financial freedom and even the creator of altcoin planned to be the leader in crypto market their project will never cause all altcoin owner still follow the protocol led by Satoshi. Moreover, there will never be another copy of a 1 on 1 down print expect you do a photocopy which is what all altcoin does.

they want to drop bitcoin, because they feel comfortable now, so they don't want to accept the developments. but that i think is difficult to materialize, because evolution will apply

In my opinion, it will never happen to my friends, and to those who think so, I think they are going the wrong way now, or maybe there is a big mistake about their way of thinking with us.

As an investor everyone should know what to dare to take this path and they will also always choose long term rather than stupid instead of short, have to go far to find a lot and anyway I also agree with you.

Shitcoins are trash which is why they are branded shitcoins. However, prior to being labelled that way they were probably intended to be something big, even a bitcoin killer but it just never worked out that way

I suppose that basically the developers who followed Satoshi lead are sincere greed and the desire to earn more.

Now I can remember only 3 projects: DogCoin and Ethereum and litecoin. They are, in my opinion, all right with the assessment of the situation. And they began their development specifically from the fan, from the interest in the blockchain, with a desire to solve the pressing issues of humanity.

But basically, I now see eyes full of greed, not experienced team members who do not understand what they are doing, just to earn wages.

Maybe I'm wrong, Satoshi also had a self-serving goal. May be. But for now, I don’t see his evil or cunning intent in the development of Bitcoin.

Although on the other hand I have a guess that bitcoin is not the work of one person. I think this is a team of people. But that's another story.

yes agree to crypto investing you must need careful research because if you invest your money in shitcoin it will make you lose.
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in my opinion it's not a problem if the goal is investment, but still needed research to determine the best choice that can provide more benefits for you Indeed, now requires precision to determine which choice is the best to choose

this is a serious problem for now, so many ico are really the next shitcoin. I agree with you
especially if we refer to the current situation, there are many altcoins that fall far below the ico price and this is 90%. pathetic.

Bitcoins has become very stable these few past months and it has stopped the fluctuating these few past months  and that's has been good for the whole crypto world. Because a stable bitcoin is good for every crypto.

One of the most important rules in investing is diversification, as well as the right moment to invest. Studying the project and the team is a must. The investor is obliged to understand the market and tools. Otherwise, it is better to give the money in trust.

I can not predict the value of bitcoin in the future it can increase or decrease. But looking at the current price chart, I choose short-term investment. I bet much when its value drops to a low and sells when prices rise. With a stable value this year, I choose short term investment to make a profit with bitcoin.

Bitcoin and altcoin are volatile, unstable at any time! To become a currency, Bitcoin and altcoin will have to stabilize prices!

Bitcoin has gained momentum over the period of time and now user base has grown much bigger since inception. However, the focus is concentrated on the speculation part of it instead of the utility value of the same. As of now, the price is determined based on the law of demand and supply but still, it is highly dependent on the speculative market instead of the demand for actual ground level use of Bitcoin.

indeed short-term at this time should be done, but in my opinion at the beginning of November you have to be ready to hold prices until mid-December, soaring prices my prediction mid-December will increase sharply and it will happen suddenly

price stability between bitcoin and altcoin will occur if bitcoin itself has increased with a high value, then all altcoins immediately match it

I think it is natural and does not need an explanation, just cryptocurrency can turn you into a more intelligent user of money and the Internet

Indeed, before investing your funds, you first need to read a lot of things and only make decisions

This is one of the requirements from a good investors to have done some research before they invest in order for them not to lose big money easily. For those who wants to earn more, buying bitcoin with you research is an ideal thing.

Either short term or long term your goal is, as long as you are knowledgeable enough about these two for sure you will be on a right place. Keep investing, and trust bitcoin we will rise again in the right time.

That is a must do before starting. If we don't pay attention to it well then we will only get regrets at the end. We know that there are currently many types of altcoins, but behind that there are only a few who are serious. Maybe it would be better if we still believe in bitcoin.

But isn't it the same for all others assets? We still in the early stages. Lets back to this after another 10 years  ;D

even though it is still in its early stages, don't we have to learn crypto better to avoid fraud when we want to invest in crypto

The cost of the majority of cryptocurrencies, including Bitcoin, is based on trust in it, therefore, having lost confidence in early 2018, the cost of Bitcoin began to rapidly decline.

Given this, I think that speculation and manipulation greatly affect the cost.

       Bitcoin is not really a very volatile currency. It is quite stable and in the last years it has had a great maturity proof. It is a special currency that has already reached 10 years. It is recommended for those who want to invest large amounts and have no immediate desire for profit, just because it is not a fluctuating currency. Altcoins are not all shitcoin. There are many very good things. Many of ICO's have developed very well and have a say on the crypto market. If I invest a small amount of money, I would invest it in altcoins, not in bitcoin. Regardless of what we invest, it is preferable to invest money that is not intended for daily expenses, because profits will not occur overnight

Must be studied well before investing in any currency
Study white paper for any currency and identify the team
Follow-up activity helps in that
This applies to currencies on the market or ICOs
The investor must take into account the time frame to which he will work

About BTC and its developer SATOSHI
This is a great example for all currency developers I hope they will benefit from.

It has a solidity when it comes in value and usage. Bitcoin is reeally different from other cryptocurrency coins. They have many usage but at the end, they fall. Bitcoin is simple yet usable anywhere. It helped every people to transact fast and easy, cash out and cash in. I admire bitcoin than any coin in this industry.

I can't call all altcoins garbage. I know excellent altcoins. I think one of them should take the place of Bitcoin with time.

Gital currencies are very petrified in transactions in the digital world. I am a user happy with the presence of digital currency technology. and it is necessary to know the value of the currency in the digital can change at any time so it must be vigilant.

You should consider the cryptocurrency segment is an investment, not the place to be "get rich quick." I like trade shit coin because this is a fairly safe strategy.  Already a shit it's hard to get worse. Of course, there are times worse because you choose the wrong point. Bitcoin will be better when you invest long term and really believe in the future of Bitcoin.

not only greed and dissatisfaction but every time a new coin is listed on the market, they lose in the market, the volume of bitcoin is bigger and the bitcoin trading activity in each market is very large.

I think, every developer must choose a good market to register the coins they created.

The value of bitcoin gives good hope to its holders, many of which have already had abundant yields so they maintain this value. Certainly, bitcoin holders are very passionate and have a good future for each period. Maybe many fail but that failure becomes an encouragement that is able to make bitcoin more valuable than other values.

I am totally agree with long term investment because it will help you to earn good profit,in short term investment may disappointment you.

I also believe Satoshi Nakamoto's pure intention when he invented bitcoin. He wanted to unchain us from the bond of central banks. He wanted to give the power over our own money to us, eliminating the unnecessary role of these greedy institutions in our finances. It's just that greedy people saw it as a way to scam ignorant victims. They created and created various tokens without good purpose, intentionally to steal other people's money. Some tactically scam people in the name of bitcoin, promising unfeasible returns. I just don't get it how stupid people can be that they can't discern obvious scams such that. If it's too good to be true, then definitely it's not true! Too bad that the great intention of the first and original crypto was tainted with the selfish desire of many.

Value is how dear you see what you have or possess. Everything in this world had no value until people started trusting it and giving it value. Many messaging apps came along with  but many of them have no value now. That's because people cherished it more giving it value.
Bitcoin is generating value from the trust from crypt o-community members. If we're able to hold on to the trust, we'll get the value for Bitcoin and people outside will get interested

So far one of the main problems of Bitcoin is precisely its use as a speculative means of accumulating value, and not as a means of payment. Because of this, Bitcoin, having weak technical characteristics, has greatly increased in price, and this is one of the reasons why states are not in a hurry to legalize it, seeing in it a financial bubble. Due to the fact that Bitcoin is very slowly legalized, the infrastructure for its direct use as a means of payment is not created. As a result, while creating a vicious circle.

There is no guaranteed trade,you can make profits in both long and short term investments,as well as incur losses in the both of them

So many long term investors have their investments rocked in their wallet, and are unable to sell cos their purchase price is far higher than what the price is at the moment,most times they often have to sell off to meet real life demands
While some active traders make profits regularly,by trading on the go
While some others could also incur losses

There is no guaranteed trade like I earlier said

i agree that what not good about other coin is the greediness instead to develop the coin
so everyone really make a lot of research before investing

I understand that you believe that bitcoin is the only relevant and interesting cryptocurrency for investment? At the time of 2017, definitely Yes. But now the situation is a little different-bitcoin has lost its current position in the market and investments in the same ripple look much more attractive. I would also recommend to pay attention to EOS. Now they show stable growth and long-term investments in this coin may well interest you.

Bitcoin is volatile yes that's correct. But what is shut coin?  And why the comparison with bitcoin? Bitcoin is up there in the cryptocurrency world but that doesn't mean that there are not also good coin out there in the market

Actually long time investment planning will makes more good profitable but we have need right choice investment platform. Because lot of scam investment platform in this market place.i believe it Bitcoin is the good currency & always do it proof.if we have invest before Bitcoin lower price then definitely we will get profit as the long time.

The actual value of btc is determined only by the market. And it's in the very nature of btc. So the solid value is around $6500 for now. However, that's only the beginning or let's say, the mid in the worst case.

This is actually a good thing, Bitcoin has a huge upside, but now it seems to stop its progress, the entire crypto encountered an obstacle, because scam too much, the bubble is too big, all this is towards unhealthy The direction is developing, now the bubble is breaking, we just wait for these bubbles to be eliminated, we will see the market turn green again.