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The right religion can be a stabilizing force for society.

Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

I totally agree. People are forcing children to accept certain religion when the children are to young to have their own judgement.
Leave the kids alone, let them decide what to follow later, when they can actually make a proper choice.

Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

Religion doesn't start war, its a facade - people do. That said, blanket statements about religion are rarely ever helpful considering the vast array of religions out there.

Religion doesn't start war, its a facade - people do. That said, blanket statements about religion are rarely ever helpful considering the vast array of religions out there.

I think you are wrong in evaluating religion, in my opinion it is not religion that spreads war but the rulers or the government in order to achieve their interests. whereas in the matter of religion, I think people are free to choose religion, they do not have to follow the religion of their parentst

What makes a religion right, anyway?

Religion is certainly a force. but I don't think it's a bad one. Religion helps many people to find their place in this world and to understand it's structure. Some people try to use religion to separate people. But it is not the religion's problem. It is people business. So blaming religion in all the bad things that happen around us is dancing in circles.

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests

Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that

That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

Are you like trying to start a new cult or something?

Because, I have actually read the bible, and it doesn't say ANY of that...

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about

If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."

The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven

The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.

The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.

Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that


Where is this in the bible?  Got a chapter and verse?


Where is this?


Where is this?


Where is this?


None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?

The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible

Why blame the parents? Parents usually baptised their child in the religion they believe would guide their child's moral values as he/she grows up.


With this kind of mentality, children are instilled with wrong idea of liberty of their choices. They would often choose to disobey norms and moral values not thinking of any consequences of their actions.

it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?

We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.

Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.

I told you it isn't in there and you just proved it by not posting a single chapter or verse

I'm done responding to you because you lack intellectual honesty.


Bye troll... Sorry, not sorry

Religion, being the filthy parasitical virus that it it, is precisely so, amongst a myriad of other very bad things time does not allow me to go into detail right now, because not knowing the truth, it declares falsity as absolute truth. Makes me want to puke so disgusting is it.

Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said.

Btw, nobody has asked you "to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there."

When someone can't remember what they posted yesterday...  :o
 
I realize I said I wouldn't respond to him anymore... but come the fuck on man

the problem is not in religions, it's in false understanding of dogmas. if you indulge fully in a religion, you have no intention of suppressing those around you

"a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion." - Dictionary definition

1.    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.    a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.    the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.    the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.    the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.    something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7.    religions, Archaic . religious rites: painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8.    Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.

Idioms

9.    get religion , Informal .
        to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
        to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.

We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.

Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, (...)

Semantics... religions do start wars

Wars are started because people refuse to settle differences through talking... religious people have no interest in settling differences with people of other religions... the majority of "holy" books (Bible, Quran, etc) state that you are commanded by god to murder anyone who even tries to convert you to another religion, even if it is your own family, parents or children trying to convert you.

If you don't believe that religious differences have started wars... you are willfully ignorant

Also, there is not a "vast array of religions out there"... I can count the religions of the world on 2 hands... 1 hand on a good day (jew, christian, muslim, hindu, buddhist)

Congrats, you're happily perpetuating ignorance.

You cant say both religions start war and then say they start because "people have no interest in settling differences".
If they are all the religions you've been exposed to, then let's be careful not to assume they are completely representative.
Finally, blanket statements about the "majority of 'holy' books" was just errant on so many levels, I just hope people don't fall for these unsubstantiated claims.

Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

Religion doesn't start war, its a facade - people do. That said, blanket statements about religion are rarely ever helpful considering the vast array of religions out there.

Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

Bro ever heard of Crusades, Jihad, Ghazwa? if not then please visit the following link for the quick note :
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests


Religion is not Virus, Humans are. We are the one who exploiting all the resources for our pleasure in the name of development. Religion is more like a Big Scam. you don't need to be religious to become a Moral person.

What would you call a scam that only grows and leads to destruction,

Is that not a virus?

 :-*

"Viruses of the Mind" is an essay by British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, first published in the book Dennett and His Critics: Demystifying Mind (1993). Dawkins originally wrote the essay in 1991 and delivered it as a Voltaire Lecture on 6 November 1992 at the Conway Hall Humanist Centre. The essay discusses how religion can be viewed as a meme, an idea previously expressed by Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976). Dawkins analyzes the propagation of religious ideas and behaviors as a memetic virus, analogous to how biological and computer viruses spread.

Dawkins defines the "symptoms" of being infected by the "virus of religion", providing examples for most of them, and tries to define a connection between the elements of religion and its survival value (invoking Zahavi's handicap principle of sexual selection, applied to believers of a religion). Dawkins also describes religious beliefs as "mind-parasites", and as "gangs [that] will come to constitute a package, which may be sufficiently stable to deserve a collective name such as Roman Catholicism ... or ... component parts to a single virus".

Dawkins suggests that religious belief in the "faith-sufferer" typically shows the following elements:

    It is impelled by some deep, inner conviction that something is true, or right, or virtuous: a conviction that doesn't seem to owe anything to evidence or reason, but which, nevertheless, the believer feels as totally compelling and convincing.
    The believer typically makes a positive virtue of faith's being strong and unshakable, despite it not being based upon evidence.
    There is a conviction that "mystery", per se, is a good thing; the belief that it is not a virtue to solve mysteries but to enjoy them and revel in their insolubility.
    There may be intolerant behaviour towards perceived rival faiths, in extreme cases even the killing of opponents or advocating of their deaths. Believers may be similarly violent in disposition towards apostates or heretics, even if those espouse only a slightly different version of the faith.
    The particular convictions that the believer holds, while having nothing to do with evidence, are likely to resemble those of the believer's parents.
    If the believer is one of the rare exceptions who follows a different religion from his parents, the explanation may be cultural transmission from a charismatic individual.
    The internal sensations of the 'faith-sufferer' may be reminiscent of those more ordinarily associated with sexual love.

Dawkins stresses his claim that religious beliefs do not spread as a result of evidence in their support, but typically by cultural transmission, in most cases from parents or from charismatic individuals. He refers to this as involving "epidemiology, not evidence". Further Dawkins distinguishes this process from the spread of scientific ideas, which, he suggests, is constrained by the requirement to conform with certain virtues of standard methodology: "testability, evidential support, precision, quantifiability, consistency, intersubjectivity, repeatability, universality, progressiveness, independence of cultural milieu, and so on". He points out that faith "spreads despite a total lack of every single one of these virtues".

Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.

Who cares about war and the death of a few million people?

Religion has convinced billions that a sky fairy will come clean up after them, so they have done nothing about global warming.

The chance of humanity not going extinct in the next century is in the single digits now.  :/