Religion is a virus

[Moloch]

The problem with religion is... I want facts and evidence, not baseless claims backed by nothing

I don't trust the words of people 2000+ years ago... everything from 2000+ years ago is full of magical nonsense that we all know is bullshit (even "historians" of the time added magical nonsense to their "history")... why claim this one book isn't bullshit like all the rest?

[joebrook]

Religion is certainly a force. but I don't think it's a bad one. Religion helps many people to find their place in this world and to understand it's structure. Some people try to use religion to separate people. But it is not the religion's problem. It is people business. So blaming religion in all the bad things that happen around us is dancing in circles.

Though I am a religious person, I do believe that so many religions have brought about division in people and If you doubt me look at all the terrorism going on these days, they can be attributed to religion.

[Moloch]

I prefer the way Gandhi phrased it

[BADecker]

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

[Moloch]

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests

Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that

[BADecker]

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests

Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that

That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

[Moloch]

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests

Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that

That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

Are you like trying to start a new cult or something?

Because, I have actually read the bible, and it doesn't say ANY of that...

[BADecker]

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests

Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that

That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

Are you like trying to start a new cult or something?

Because, I have actually read the bible, and it doesn't say ANY of that...

I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about, but you talked about "hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked." The Bible never says any of that. You said it.

But the Bible talks of the new universe in both Isaiah and the Revelation. And the New Testament talks in various places about the joy that we have and will have with God. Hebrews even says that the coming joy that Jesus understood, was the reason why He did His work on the cross.

If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."

[gembirdprivate]

I have a positive attitude to religion, but yes, I believe that it should not be imposed from childhood, but give the child a full awareness of this world, banal knowledge and achievements of mankind.
And only then ask him: "Do you want to be a believer?".

[InfantBull]

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

That's one hell of a theory. Nothing you said really make sense, this is all looks kinda sect-stuff. I too think that religion isn't really helpful in a big sense, but some people find it comforting still.

[Moloch]

It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.

What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.

I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests

Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that

That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

Are you like trying to start a new cult or something?

Because, I have actually read the bible, and it doesn't say ANY of that...

I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about

If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."

By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that

The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven

Where is this in the bible?  Got a chapter and verse?

The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

Where is this?

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.

Where is this?

The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.

Where is this?

Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?

The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible

[BADecker]

I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about

If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."

By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that

The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven

Where is this in the bible?  Got a chapter and verse?

The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

Where is this?

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.

Where is this?

The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.

Where is this?

Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?

The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible

The "hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi, etc." was something that you said, and you acted like it was a heaven for you. That's why I threw in the word "heaven." However, I already told you this, and I even told you that it wasn't in the Bible. If you read the Bible like you read what I said, no wonder you don't understand about salvation.

The rest of it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?

[SaiWAFU]

Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.

I totally agree. People are forcing children to accept certain religion when the children are to young to have their own judgement.
Leave the kids alone, let them decide what to follow later, when they can actually make a proper choice.

Why blame the parents? Parents usually baptised their child in the religion they believe would guide their child's moral values as he/she grows up.

Exactly. When they get older, if they want to follow a religion then let them be. But teaching them in the ways of a religion, making their way of life before they know better, is forcing it to children.

With this kind of mentality, children are instilled with wrong idea of liberty of their choices. They would often choose to disobey norms and moral values not thinking of any consequences of their actions.

[Moloch]

I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about

If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."

By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that

The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven

Where is this in the bible?  Got a chapter and verse?

The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

Where is this?

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.

Where is this?

The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.

Where is this?

Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?

The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible

it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?

I told you it isn't in there and you just proved it by not posting a single chapter or verse

I'm done responding to you because you lack intellectual honesty.

We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.

Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.

Bye troll... Sorry, not sorry

[BADecker]

I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about

If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."

By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that

The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven

Where is this in the bible?  Got a chapter and verse?

The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.

Where is this?

The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.

Where is this?

The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.

Where is this?

Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.

None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?

The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible

it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?

I told you it isn't in there and you just proved it by not posting a single chapter or verse

I'm done responding to you because you lack intellectual honesty.

We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.

Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.

Bye troll... Sorry, not sorry

You sure are having your troubles today. I showed you where to look, but you want to dictate the terms of how and what I show you. Do your own research.

Let me say it to you another way. Be intellectually honest. Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said. Do it just to show that you have the ability to read... if you do, that is.

I'll help you out. Simply Google "Bible Hub, NIV, <and the particular book you are looking for>". Then go to the appropriate site, and copy and paste. You might have to go chapter by chapter, since Bible Hub doesn't generally post whole Bible books on one page. But remember to read it all, so that you don't accidentally post the stuff you don't want to.

And do this just to be intellectually honest, according to your quote in your post that I quoted, above.

God isn't going to answer you on your terms. He isn't your servant. But if He does, you are blessed. I have answered you way more than He is willing to put up with your contemptuous stupidity.

[dippididodaday]

We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.

Religion, being the filthy parasitical virus that it it, is precisely so, amongst a myriad of other very bad things time does not allow me to go into detail right now, because not knowing the truth, it declares falsity as absolute truth. Makes me want to puke so disgusting is it.

[Moloch]

Question for the peanut gallery...

If someone claims that something is in the bible, and I dispute that claim (because the bible does not say that)...

Would it be more reasonable for the person claiming that something is in the bible to post a verse from the bible proving it is there, or would it be more reasonable for me to post every verse of the bible which does not say that?  (who seriously asks someone to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there?!?)

Asking for a friend
#BurdenOfProof

[BADecker]

Religion, being the filthy parasitical virus that it it, is precisely so, amongst a myriad of other very bad things time does not allow me to go into detail right now, because not knowing the truth, it declares falsity as absolute truth. Makes me want to puke so disgusting is it.

Thank you for informing us about what your own "filthy parasitical virus" religion is... a filthy parasitical virus religion of anti-religion. You seem to have a self-destruction wish by condemning the basics of what you, yourself are... religious.

[Moloch]

Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said.

Btw, nobody has asked you "to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there."

When someone can't remember what they posted yesterday... 
 
I realize I said I wouldn't respond to him anymore... but come the fuck on man

[BADecker]

Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said.

Btw, nobody has asked you "to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there."

When someone can't remember what they posted yesterday... 
 
I realize I said I wouldn't respond to him anymore... but come the fuck on man

And the "those" books that I mentioned are: Isaiah, Revelations, and Hebrews.

It's your continued deceitful attempted deception that shows that you are way off in everything.