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Title: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on October 19, 2018, 07:09:34 PM
http://gekkoscience.com/img_stash/Good_News_Everyone.jpg

So, I've been working in secret the last few months on a new stickminer to replace the venerable old 2Pac.

It's not as good as I would like - certainly less fancy, but we have to remember that the GekkoScience design philosophy is "Simple, Durable, Reliable".

http://gekkoscience.com/img_stash/NewPac/NewPac.JPG

This new stick, the NewPac (so named because it's quite obviously just a newer version of the 2Pac, which was itself just a two-chip Compac) features a pair of Bitmain BM1387 chips and a stock clock setting of 100MHz for 23GH. The chips are pretty bad at thermal runaway which means 100-125MHz is a practical top-end for passive cooling, though with moderate airflow they'll run 200MHz (45GH) at under 5W on stock voltage.

I have seen these sticks pushed to 90GH, which makes them roughly hashrate-equivalent to my Terminus R808 pod miner but from about one fifth the power draw. It's theoretically possible to overclock to 130GH but this will require a strong hub and possibly custom cooling. I have not tested past 90GH. Every stick is tested at 45GH before shipping.

VH's new Gekko cgminer driver is able to detect and recover from the same kind of issues which would have caused a "ZOMBIE" condition on the 2Pac, meaning increased reliability and less attention to maintain long-term operation. The stick is dimensionally identical to the 2Pac, so any custom hardware designed for one will work for the other. And of course it's got BLINKY LIGHTS!

For the time being, I have no plans to run direct sales. I have more projects on my plate for the next six months than I have time for (including bigger and better non-industrial miners), so we'll be operating entirely with resellers - specifically CrazyGuy (https://asicpuppy.com/magentoPuppy/ (https://asicpuppy.com/magentoPuppy/)) and 419 Mining (https://www.419mining.com/ (https://www.419mining.com/)) to start.

http://gekkoscience.com/img_stash/NewPac/NewPac-testers.JPG


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on October 19, 2018, 07:32:22 PM
Looking good there! 8)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: HagssFIN on October 19, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
Looking great and robust, as always. :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on October 19, 2018, 10:54:04 PM
Dope.  8)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: vh on October 20, 2018, 03:05:22 AM
Started a new thread for NewPac technical discussion and support:  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053833.0

The code base is the same, and compatible with all version of GekkoScience stick miners.

Here are some readings off of my portapow monitor for efficiency*.  
http://23.108.83.14/images/NewPac-0002.png
*fan uses power but not included


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 22, 2018, 04:25:46 AM
Available for purchase via ASICPuppy.com (http://ASICPuppy.com)
New orders shipping this week!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on October 22, 2018, 05:13:08 AM
They look nice.


Good luck selling them.

I guess I need one or two just cause I have a compac and some two pacs.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: taserz on October 22, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
Aww yeah more usb mining porn.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on October 23, 2018, 01:38:01 PM
I ordered 2 of them.  Should arrive soon.

I will post a review when i get them.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on October 26, 2018, 01:29:27 AM
I know it may too soon but have you (Sidehack) or VH had a chance to see if the "overt asicboost" can be utilized?


Also CrazyGuy, I Can not get an account registered on Asicpuppy for some reason as you have the only NewPacs available on your website.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: T3ch92 on October 27, 2018, 03:20:43 AM
Would love to buy some :)

But I can not get an account registered on Asicpuppy for some reason... Or add to cart.

CrazyGuy, can you help? And do you ship to Skandinavia/Europe?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: dingle on October 27, 2018, 04:39:15 AM
damn it.. ill have to get 8. or 10... looks like i know what my bonus is going for now


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 27, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
Hey guys, I've resolved the shopping cart issues a couple of you were having. Please contact me directly if you are still having issues. Newpacs still in stock

ASICPUPPY.COM (http://ASICPUPPY.COM)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on October 27, 2018, 02:20:13 PM
Tracking was given to me for my purchase of two


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on October 28, 2018, 05:46:22 PM
Was able to complete my registration and my first order.

Thank you CrazyGuy



Sidehack, what hubs are you using in the pictures above?

They look like the 7-port Plugables (casing stripped) that NotFuzzyWarm recommended but you have 4 NewPacs in them. Which If i recall the Plugable was only able to power 3 2Pacs because of power distribution being joined at 1-2, 3-4, 5-7 ports.

Just wanting to see what hubs I need or if I can reuse what I have onhand.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on October 28, 2018, 06:46:27 PM
Just ordered from CrazyGuy! Awesome work and can't wait to get mine... something new to tinker with!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on October 28, 2018, 07:06:51 PM
They are the Plugables. I still have my trusty 49ers from Eyeboot but I was having trouble running several sticks at high speeds (I test at 200MHz though stock is 100) so I built new test setups with smaller hubs and better USB busses than the ancient computers I was using. Now each machine is running 12 sticks; I tested 16 but had trouble, though it could have been a faulty hub.

Two sticks per hub are running off one regulator, but they're also running only 5W each so power is not overwhelmed. You might have trouble depending on how much you overclock. If the hub's good for 60W that's 20W per regulator, so 10W per stick in pairs. If that holds, you should still see around 400MHz (90G) before it gives out assuming you have adequate cooling.

On Thursday I finally received a sample order of hub chips that were purchased in September, so hopefully I can get back to my own hub project. For now though, those Plugables are working pretty well.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: T3ch92 on October 29, 2018, 02:45:10 AM
Just ordered one:)
Thank you CrazyGuy


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on October 29, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
Hey Guys, sorry for the delay's. We had to get our testing/documentation in order. ours are now posted.

https://www.419mining.com/shop/miners/gekkoscience-newpac-dual-bm1387-usb-stickminer/


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Samnangsek on October 30, 2018, 03:56:38 PM
Hey guys, I've resolved the shopping cart issues a couple of you were having. Please contact me directly if you are still having issues. Newpacs still in stock

ASICPUPPY.COM (http://ASICPUPPY.COM)

i ordered 1 stick via btc since 27/10/20818 and it still in Processing right now.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on October 31, 2018, 01:13:45 AM
They are the Plugables. I still have my trusty 49ers from Eyeboot but I was having trouble running several sticks at high speeds (I test at 200MHz though stock is 100) so I built new test setups with smaller hubs and better USB busses than the ancient computers I was using. Now each machine is running 12 sticks; I tested 16 but had trouble, though it could have been a faulty hub.

Two sticks per hub are running off one regulator, but they're also running only 5W each so power is not overwhelmed. You might have trouble depending on how much you overclock. If the hub's good for 60W that's 20W per regulator, so 10W per stick in pairs. If that holds, you should still see around 400MHz (90G) before it gives out assuming you have adequate cooling.

On Thursday I finally received a sample order of hub chips that were purchased in September, so hopefully I can get back to my own hub project. For now though, those Plugables are working pretty well.

Thank you for the reply,

I will order a few more plugables and mod them with fans in anticipation of more NewPacs to be coming.

Looking forward to seeing what you have coming out next.

Cheers


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on October 31, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
Is there a vendor that accepts paypal? Bitshopper used to accept paypal but doesnt look like hes stocking these at the moment.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: BigIron8 on November 01, 2018, 05:47:54 AM
Outstanding! Just ordered four from ASICPuppy. Will be pointing these at Johnny's Gambling Hall, and Kano. Hope they play well with my other 2pac and Terminus miners.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: achtung082 on November 01, 2018, 04:25:31 PM
Nice work, may need to get ride of some older pac's.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: irritant on November 01, 2018, 11:07:53 PM
Is there a vendor that accepts paypal? Bitshopper used to accept paypal but doesnt look like hes stocking these at the moment.

isn't it possible to buy these things with the currency of the future? (aka bitcoin)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 01, 2018, 11:13:22 PM
isn't it possible to buy these things with the currency of the future? (aka bitcoin)

asicpuppy takes btc.

I figured out my issue with my eyeboot 49 port hub  it now works fine.

I have this one one the way

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sipolar-10-Port-USB-2-0-Powered-Hub-with-power-supply-5V-20-Amp-2A-per-port/352409900554?

will post how the units work with this one as this one is not stupid expensive.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 02, 2018, 01:07:28 AM
We currently accept paypal, not BTC at the moment, our creditcard/btc processing underwriter just dropped us (bitcoin is to high risk) and we are evaluating others and should have it back up in the next few days.

https://www.419mining.com/shop/miners/gekkoscience-newpac-dual-bm1387-usb-stickminer/


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 02, 2018, 01:34:40 AM
I did do some testing on my prototype hub build today and it looks to be working. Note that's only step one in about a five-step design process but it was the step with the most questions. Hopefully early next year I finally have a solid yet flexible hub for y'all.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 02, 2018, 01:56:40 AM
I did do some testing on my prototype hub build today and it looks to be working. Note that's only step one in about a five-step design process but it was the step with the most questions. Hopefully early next year I finally have a solid yet flexible hub for y'all.

Yeah I would like that.  I think I am going to use five to ten of these new sticks.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Samnangsek on November 02, 2018, 12:59:23 PM
Available for purchase via ASICPuppy.com (http://ASICPuppy.com)
New orders shipping this week!

CrazyGuy can you check my purchase in ASICPuppy?
it still showed processing for days.
thank you.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on November 02, 2018, 05:11:13 PM
isn't it possible to buy these things with the currency of the future? (aka bitcoin)

Yes but ive got money in my paypal account and would like to use that first  ;)

We currently accept paypal, not BTC at the moment, our creditcard/btc processing underwriter just dropped us (bitcoin is to high risk) and we are evaluating others and should have it back up in the next few days.

https://www.419mining.com/shop/miners/gekkoscience-newpac-dual-bm1387-usb-stickminer/

Thats great. Only trouble is now is that you dont ship to the U.K lol


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 02, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
We take paypal not sure if we'll get the newpac. Maybe sidehack and our sales can work something out or the vendors here to help.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 03, 2018, 12:35:04 AM
true, we don't currently offer international shipping from our website, but we do via eBay...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/253271572863

and P.S. for anyone else watching, Bitcoin is a checkout option on our site now as well.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 03, 2018, 04:07:41 AM
true, we don't currently offer international shipping from our website, but we do via eBay...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/253271572863

and P.S. for anyone else watching, Bitcoin is a checkout option on our site now as well.

Nice sales on eBay over 200 of them.

I was thinking these are the first sticks close to state of the the art in years.  I guess others thought the same thing.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on November 03, 2018, 04:11:12 AM
CrazyGuy can you check my purchase in ASICPuppy?
it still showed processing for days.
thank you.

Same here, I ordered last weekend and still no news, just says "processing"


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 03, 2018, 04:12:11 AM
not quite, it was actually a 2PAC sale re-purposed to save on listing and advertising costs. but these will go fast I'm sure, just need to "get the word out"


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: truckinusa44 on November 03, 2018, 08:03:24 AM
How does this compare to one of the old 21 bitcoin miners?  Seen them for about the same price.  My goal is to do some small time mining with as little heat as possible.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 03, 2018, 01:46:55 PM
How does this compare to one of the old 21 bitcoin miners?  Seen them for about the same price.  My goal is to do some small time mining with as little heat as possible.

They do 40 gh at 5 watts with a gentle fan.

I should have purchased more then two.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: SilverSevens on November 04, 2018, 04:53:34 AM
This is really interesting, I want to try it out. I wanted to ask, what is the benefit over buying something like  a S9.. current prices are like 250-300.  Comparing similar ASIC chip coUnts will this setup burn less energy compared to an Bitmain machine ?  Non the less, Amazing work for the community!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on November 04, 2018, 06:08:13 AM
This is really interesting, I want to try it out. I wanted to ask, what is the benefit over buying something like  a S9.. current prices are like 250-300.  Comparing similar ASIC chip coUnts will this setup burn less energy compared to an Bitmain machine ?  Non the less, Amazing work for the community!

These are low hashrate, definitely not comparable to something like the S9 but will give you a fell and experience in mining. They're using the same chips as in the S9 but far fewer of them


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 04, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
This is really interesting, I want to try it out. I wanted to ask, what is the benefit over buying something like  a S9.. current prices are like 250-300.  Comparing similar ASIC chip coUnts will this setup burn less energy compared to an Bitmain machine ?  Non the less, Amazing work for the community!

you can buy a refurbish s9 for that price, plus a power supply (around $150), but remember these require 1600W of power. the GekkoScience USB units are a great alternative for low power mining. I know a lot of my international customers don't even have the option of running that kind of power.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 04, 2018, 03:51:06 PM
This is really interesting, I want to try it out. I wanted to ask, what is the benefit over buying something like  a S9.. current prices are like 250-300.  Comparing similar ASIC chip coUnts will this setup burn less energy compared to an Bitmain machine ?  Non the less, Amazing work for the community!

They are quiet and many of us may have a place for 1 or 2 that  costs zero for the extra power.

I use a fan with mine  but I clock them higher then 100

If you clock at 75  they will run silently.

Point them at a pool that offers a bonus for hitting the block.

You get a free chance  at a block bonus  or a very low cost power wise chance at the block bonus..

Here are pools with block bonus

http://mmpool.org/

http://www.bravo-mining.com/

I have my 2 sticks pointed to bravo


Contributor Hashrates
Rank   Donor__User Name_______TH/s
1..................jonnybravo............8.550
2..................MinerSRQ..............1.413
3..................rkotsybar...............0.244
4..................tubexc...................0.227
5..................BigIron..................0.202
6..................mofoq....................0.183


7...............philipma1957........0.116


8..................bugwash...............0.044
9..................AB1042503...........0.033
10.................munkeyminer........0.027   
11.................PhredPhrog...........0.022   
no Donation  0%-2% Donation  2% or more Donation


the bonus is 1 btc if I hit the block
and if someone else hits the block I can still get some coin


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 04, 2018, 08:03:58 PM
[...]

I have this one one the way

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sipolar-10-Port-USB-2-0-Powered-Hub-with-power-supply-5V-20-Amp-2A-per-port/352409900554?

will post how the units work with this one as this one is not stupid expensive.

I have this usb hub for my 2pacs, work fine. Maybe a zombie or two after a handful of days running.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on November 05, 2018, 01:15:13 AM
Anyone heard from CrazyGuy? I ordered over a week ago now, still no movement on my order and I can't get in touch either. Sent messages/emails and nothing. Hope all is ok on their end


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: BigIron8 on November 05, 2018, 05:01:57 PM
I have two orders in with CrazyGuy. One for over a month, one for a week. Both are still showing as processing. I have left a message on his board and replied to his shipment e mail, and I have heard nothing in return. Starting to get a little concerned.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 05, 2018, 05:53:04 PM
I have two orders in with CrazyGuy. One for over a month, one for a week. Both are still showing as processing. I have left a message on his board and replied to his shipment e mail, and I have heard nothing in return. Starting to get a little concerned.

he sent mine last week


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: OgNasty on November 05, 2018, 06:03:47 PM
I feel like a golden opportunity was missed to name the successor of 2Pac as Makaveli.  :D


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on November 05, 2018, 07:29:23 PM
he sent mine last week

Hope everything is ok then, just a little worried now


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: vh on November 05, 2018, 08:45:17 PM
Looks like AsicBoost will be coming soon to these NewPacs.    
Check for it in an upcoming build or two.   8)

http://23.108.83.14/images/NewPac-0005.png (http://23.108.83.14/images/NewPac-0005.png)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 05, 2018, 10:06:55 PM
Looks like AsicBoost will be coming soon to these NewPacs.    
Check for it in an upcoming build or two.   8)

http://23.108.83.14/images/NewPac-0005.png

let us know improvement  in hash or power or both.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: CrazyGuy on November 05, 2018, 10:18:05 PM
Hey guys, I've resolved the shopping cart issues a couple of you were having. Please contact me directly if you are still having issues. Newpacs still in stock

ASICPUPPY.COM (http://ASICPUPPY.COM)

i ordered 1 stick via btc since 27/10/20818 and it still in Processing right now.

Hi Samnangsek, please check your PM/email. I'm having to manually update all pending/processing orders and have been sending tracking notices via email.(magento devs broke something in a 1.9 update) If you do not provide an email address at the time of your order, please contact me via PM. I respond to all messages within 24hrs. Please be patient and contact me directly instead of bothering sidehack.(He's busy building Newpacs!)
 
All new orders ship within 48 hrs.

I should have some time this weekend to update to Magento 2.0 so shipped orders won't show as processing...


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: T3ch92 on November 05, 2018, 10:33:29 PM
I ordered from https://asicpuppy.com

CrazyGuy gave me USPS tracking :)

No need to worry when ordering from CrazyGuy


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on November 05, 2018, 10:52:26 PM
I know he's got  good rep, just thought something might be up on his end. No matter anyway, he's just gotten in touch with me now :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 06, 2018, 01:10:53 AM
Thats great. Only trouble is now is that you dont ship to the U.K lol

gt_addict, did you ever get your U.K order figured out? if not send me a P.M. Ill see what we can do for the international shipping.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 06, 2018, 11:17:42 PM
I ordered 2 of them.  Should arrive soon.

I will post a review when i get them.

Hey Phil! Was wondering if you ever got around to writing a review up for these NewPac sticks yet? I searched throughout this thread and couldn't find any posts with a link to your review. Anyway, hope all is well with you!

I decided not to purchase any more mining equipment for a bit. Then, sidehack starts making these bad boys. How can I say no to something like this stick? Looks like my decision to hold off on purchasing new mining equipment did not last long..


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: elokk on November 07, 2018, 01:07:23 AM
How does this compare to one of the old 21 bitcoin miners?  Seen them for about the same price.  My goal is to do some small time mining with as little heat as possible.

21 bitcoin computer is also a full node


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 07, 2018, 01:15:12 AM
Hey Phil! Was wondering if you ever got around to writing a review up for these NewPac sticks yet? I searched throughout this thread and couldn't find any posts with a link to your review. Anyway, hope all is well with you!

I decided not to purchase any more mining equipment for a bit. Then, sidehack starts making these bad boys. How can I say no to something like this stick? Looks like my decision to hold off on purchasing new mining equipment did not last long..

I ordered this hub

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it arrives tommorow

I will review then,

been busy  with my basement bedroom cinderblock wall cracked.

So I dug me a ditch.

repaired the wall  no more leaking .

I am now gutting  and rebuilding bedroom.

and at 61  I am slower at it then I use to be.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: vh on November 07, 2018, 03:55:49 AM
let us know improvement  in hash or power or both.

Hash rate stays as expected for the frequency provided.    Power draw drops a bit.  

@200MHz was 4.66W, with AsicBoost measures 4.20W.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 07, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
Hash rate stays as expected for the frequency provided.    Power draw drops a bit.  

@200MHz was 4.66W, with AsicBoost measures 4.20W.

that is pretty nice

I am getting just about 37 gh at freq 175

kind of fun watching them run.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 07, 2018, 06:07:05 PM
Looks like AsicBoost will be coming soon to these NewPacs.    
Check for it in an upcoming build or two.   8)

http://23.108.83.14/images/NewPac-0005.png

That is GREAT news vh! Adding ~20% for AsicBoost to a stick doing 140Gh/s and you've now got a USB stick miner that could potentially mine at ~168Gh/s. Just when you thought it couldn't get any better. Please keep us updated on this vh. Thank you!  =)



I ordered this hub

[...]

it arrives tommorow

I will review then,

been busy  with my basement bedroom cinderblock wall cracked.

So I dug me a ditch.

repaired the wall  no more leaking .

I am now gutting  and rebuilding bedroom.

and at 61  I am slower at it then I use to be.

No problem Phil, please take your time! I am ordering some of these NewPac sticks regardless. I was just curious about your review because yours are always good! Anyway, let me know when you get a chance to post it (again, no hurry).


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on November 07, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
gt_addict, did you ever get your U.K order figured out? if not send me a P.M. Ill see what we can do for the international shipping.

Havent ordered yet. I was going to through your ebay listing but im struggling to find a decent hub to power them here in the UK. I was looking at the sipolar 10 one as it looks beefy and able to cope well with the power draw, but they are sooo expensive here. Most UK ones are standard types with rubbish power ratings. Just got to wait for philip to do his review and see if some kind soul in the states can ship me one over  ;)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 07, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
Havent ordered yet. I was going to through your ebay listing but im struggling to find a decent hub to power them here in the UK. I was looking at the sipolar 10 one as it looks beefy and able to cope well with the power draw. Most UK ones are standard types with rubbish power ratings.

this is the one we are adding to our offered inventory this weekend.
https://plugable.com/products/usb2-hub7bc/

its fairly solid and can run 4 sticks reliably.

Send me a DM with what kind of quantities your looking for, I will run the international shipping quote directly and get you some hard numbers.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Didldak on November 09, 2018, 07:31:26 AM
Nice work :O Anyone got these in stock in EU?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 09, 2018, 02:35:24 PM
Nice work :O Anyone got these in stock in EU?

Not stocked but we do ship internationally.
you can also check out our eBay listing for smaller orders that will ship to most countries
https://www.ebay.com/itm/253271572863


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: BigIron8 on November 09, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
Got my order from CrazyGuy, and all is well.

Man, these Newpacs work great! They are consistently putting out three times the hash of the 2pacs, and not one of them has gone Zombie overnight. I think these things are a keeper. Double my hash rate for USB miners overall, and still in the same power envelope.

Great job, Sidehack. Eagerly awaiting the new USB hub you are engineering.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 09, 2018, 05:24:37 PM
At the top end (and with adequate cooling) they'll put up more like five times the 2Pac's hashrate for the same power, especially if AB is enabled. I'm running 108GH from 10W ports on my test hub, 40 hours stable.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 09, 2018, 11:00:13 PM
At the top end (and with adequate cooling) they'll put up more like five times the 2Pac's hashrate for the same power, especially if AB is enabled. I'm running 108GH from 10W ports on my test hub, 40 hours stable.

This is very nice to know! I should have had my NewPac sticks today, but the USPS is sending the package to every sort facility within a 100 mile radius of me (very logical for a logistics company). Is there any way to enable AsicBoost on the 2PAC sticks? Thanks for yet another great product sidehack!



A new build is available:  09a2f37

[...]

This new version of cgminer seems to be MUCH more stable for my 2PAC sticks than any of the 4.10.0 versions (or any previous gekko versions for that matter)! I have been running this latest build for days now with very few dropouts, errors, zombies, etc.. Normally, I would have woke up to find zombie sticks that just needed restarted, but that has been a very rare occurrence with this version. Anyway, whatever you did worked! Thanks for the great work, it is much appreciated!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: T3ch92 on November 09, 2018, 11:28:38 PM
Got my NewPac in the mail today :)

Running it along with 5 other 2pac, on Sipolar 10 Port USB 2.0 Hub 5V 20 Amp.
https://www.eyeboot.com/sipolar-10-port-usb-hub.html

cgminer 4.11.1 works great!
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Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 10, 2018, 11:42:08 PM
Got my NewPac in the mail today :)

Running it along with 5 other 2pac, on Sipolar 10 Port USB 2.0 Hub 5V 20 Amp.
https://www.eyeboot.com/sipolar-10-port-usb-hub.html

cgminer 4.11.1 works great!
BTC solo.ckpool BTC

Just an FYI regarding the hub - too much discussion on USB hubs was taking place in the original 2PAC thread, so phillipma1957 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507) created a separate "hub" thread at the request of vh and sidehack some time ago. There is plenty of great info there regarding hubs, and I'm sure people would like to have the ability to easier find your post regarding your USB hub. Anyway, the thread specifically for discussion about USB hubs for these sticks can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1779423.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1779423.0)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 11, 2018, 05:04:58 AM
An announcement announcing their newpac in an announcement thread. If it's a shill it's well done.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 12, 2018, 04:01:45 PM
Havent ordered yet. I was going to through your ebay listing but im struggling to find a decent hub to power them here in the UK. I was looking at the sipolar 10 one as it looks beefy and able to cope well with the power draw, but they are sooo expensive here. Most UK ones are standard types with rubbish power ratings. Just got to wait for philip to do his review and see if some kind soul in the states can ship me one over  ;)

If you have not already, you should browse through the "hub" thread, created specifically for discussing the best hubs to use for sidehack's USB stick miners. Hopefully you will find a decent one there that could be shipped to (or is available in) the UK. Also, if you have access to Amazon, you should be able to find a hub that delivers 2.0A or more per port. The last trick is to use a dual male to single female USB cable (like this one (https://ebay.us/H7ymm0) on eBay. Using that cable will supply the stick with power from two ports on your hub, doubling the available current. The hub thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1779423.0


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 12, 2018, 04:05:51 PM
I will finally be getting the hub on the 13th.

I will post a review on the 14th.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: cbrrider on November 12, 2018, 11:29:05 PM
Do you guys plan on making something when the new 7nm Bitmain chips come out? or maybe that's wishful thinking.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 01:13:13 AM
Do you guys plan on making something when the new 7nm Bitmain chips come out? or maybe that's wishful thinking.

you are way ahead of the game.

these sticks are a big improvement of the compac or the 2pac  and they just came out  less then 60 days ago.

I would be stunned to see a new stick with a different chip from sidehack this year.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 13, 2018, 05:15:51 AM
I've got a newer chip in hand already and a lead on at least one more. But these NewPacs are pretty decent (especially with AB enabled) so I'll be taking my time on the new thing and making it more featureful as well as more efficient. The focus initially will probably be on pods, also.

To answer the specific question though, no, I have no plans to work with Bitmain's 7nm chip.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
As promised I got the sipolar 10 port hub today.

I am running 9 sticks

2x Newpac
1x 2Pac
6x Compac

I am using VH's miner 4.11

here is bat

Code:
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bravo-mining.com:3333 -u philipma1957.two --gekko-compac-freq 200 --gekko-2pac-freq 200 --gekko-newpac-freq 200 -p x

note all sticks at set to freq 200

https://i.imgur.com/e1vXyJR.png (https://i.imgur.com/e1vXyJR.png)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 13, 2018, 11:48:26 PM
all running on the sipolar 10 port?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 11:56:59 PM
no
review is here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068655.0

very early testing at the moment


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: zsmith on November 14, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
Since I have a compac and 2 terminus pods, I ordered 2 Newpacs from Crazy Guy to support Sidehack's efforts.  I hope to see a new pod miner come out too.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 14, 2018, 10:56:26 PM
Yesterday I wrote up a roughly chronological 15-point master plan for the rest of the year. Work which will be used toward a pod miner were included in items 1-3, 6, 10, 12 and 14. There's development for some other fun stuff in there that I hope y'all also like.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 15, 2018, 07:39:16 AM
Yesterday I wrote up a roughly chronological 15-point master plan for the rest of the year. Work which will be used toward a pod miner were included in items 1-3, 6, 10, 12 and 14. There's development for some other fun stuff in there that I hope y'all also like.

I think my body is tingling.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: bitmunkey on November 15, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
will it be aptly named "NEWERPAC" ?
love these little toys your making sidehack. you reckon the newer stick will use the same size and format as the last 2?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 15, 2018, 10:07:15 PM
As promised I got the sipolar 10 port hub today.

I am running 9 sticks

2x Newpac
1x 2Pac
6x Compac

I am using VH's miner 4.11

here is bat

Code:
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bravo-mining.com:3333 -u philipma1957.two --gekko-compac-freq 200 --gekko-2pac-freq 200 --gekko-newpac-freq 200 -p x

note all sticks at set to freq 200

https://i.imgur.com/e1vXyJR.png

Phil - it looks like you're missing the AsicBoost option in your command line. Don't forget to add the following flag to enable AsicBoost:  --gekko-newpac-boost

Your code should look like this:

Code:
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bravo-mining.com:3333 -u philipma1957.two --gekko-compac-freq 200 --gekko-2pac-freq 200 --gekko-newpac-freq 200 -p x --gekko-newpac-boost


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 15, 2018, 10:30:29 PM
ASICBoost only works on NewPacs, but for them it reduces power consumption by 10% and cuts down on USB traffic by roughly 70% and both of those are good things.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: FuzzyBear on November 19, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
great work on the new miners sidehack
happy mining!

Fuzzybear


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on November 19, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
Not sure if I should post this here but.....

419mining is an excellent company to do business with. Ordered 2x Newpacs and plugable hub shipped to the UK. Not only did they deal with me direct through DM’s but they went above and beyond to ship across the pond even though they didnt initially offer that particular postal service. The gear was well packed and also came with a cgminer printout of the two Newpacs which I thought was a very professional touch. Would highly recommend them to anyone considering buying any gear from them. Superb!! Thanks again.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 19, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
Thanks gt_addict! I always like to hear we have satisfied customers, If anyone else needs international shipping, please let me know.
 :D


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 19, 2018, 10:26:14 PM
I noticed an eBay 10% coupon today.

I may grab a 4th one.

Would have been nice to get these sticks last fall.

Oh well.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 19, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
You and me both, man. However, this time last fall my entire crew (including a fresh hire brought in specifically to meet demand) were up to our eyeballs getting 2pacs out the door. Seriously, we doubled manufacturing output between September and November; the three weeks following Thanksgiving, my people put together more sticks than we did in August and September combined and still had a one-month backlog. I had exactly zero time to start working on anything new until earlier this year.

Demand has slowed now, and my crew can pretty much do everything without me (unless something goes wrong), so I finally have that R&D time. Even so, these sticks were released several months later than desired.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: olseh on November 20, 2018, 04:14:16 AM
You and me both, man. However, this time last fall my entire crew (including a fresh hire brought in specifically to meet demand) were up to our eyeballs getting 2pacs out the door. Seriously, we doubled manufacturing output between September and November; the three weeks following Thanksgiving, my people put together more sticks than we did in August and September combined and still had a one-month backlog. I had exactly zero time to start working on anything new until earlier this year.

Demand has slowed now, and my crew can pretty much do everything without me (unless something goes wrong), so I finally have that R&D time. Even so, these sticks were released several months later than desired.

They're here now and that's all that matters. Onto bigger and better things from here!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 20, 2018, 07:31:01 AM
Wow at 100 these run hot. I'll have to down clock for portability as I like to mine on my laptop or surface with the 2pac. Other than some sensitive finger tips though I'm camping happy.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 20, 2018, 10:12:50 PM
In an effort to help gain market visibility and ramp up sales, I will be receiving a batch of NewPac sticks tomorrow (November 21) for resale. The first five (5) people to make a purchase will receive FREE shipping on their order (promotion is for USA shipping only). I do offer International shipping as well, and price will vary depending on your location. International customers please send me a message with your address and I will promptly reply with a shipping quote (I will never markup the cost of shipping, regardless of location).

For more information, please visit my sales thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071416.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071416.0)

To purchase a NewPac from my eBay listing, click here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/143022700951?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/143022700951?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Spill on November 20, 2018, 10:48:18 PM
Work which will be used toward a pod miner were included in items 1-3, 6, 10, 12 and 14.

If you can make a pod miner with the efficiency of the newpac's,  I'm interested in it even if bitcoin does go back 1.5k.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 21, 2018, 01:05:08 AM
I expect the efficiency to be better. The worst-case efficiency with the chips I'd be using is on par with the best-case (meaning, bottom voltage and AB enabled) for the NewPac's BM1387. Couple that with only one regulation step (12V->5V instead of 12V->5V->0.83V) at a higher efficiency (upwards of 95%) and it should be markedly better.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on November 21, 2018, 02:46:02 AM
I expect the efficiency to be better. The worst-case efficiency with the chips I'd be using is on par with the best-case (meaning, bottom voltage and AB enabled) for the NewPac's BM1387. Couple that with only one regulation step (12V->5V instead of 12V->5V->0.83V) at a higher efficiency (upwards of 95%) and it should be markedly better.

yeah I got a meter on the stick at the plug 1.1 to 1.3 amps at 5.1 volts  that would be 5.61 to 6.63 watts at the usb plug.

at the kwatt meter 24.2/3 = 8.0667 watts so  82 % efficient at the high number 70% at the low since it fluxes  say 76% eff.  from wall to usb plug.

if it were 95% or even 90 %  these sticks would be at 21 watts not 24 watts   maybe 20 watts at the kill-a-watt

since they could do 57-60 gh at freq 250

I could do 180gh at 20 watts
Not 180gh at 24-25 watts

3 sticks


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on November 21, 2018, 03:01:05 AM
Still seeing "missing nonces" and "reset" even after trying at 100MHz and one at a time in the plugable. Do I need to turn the dial clock or counter-clock to dial in wattage for stability?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 21, 2018, 03:05:45 AM
While this may not be your issue, I found it the hard way. You may want to check to see if your USB controller is and "Intel USB 3.0 eXensible Host Controller". It was a problem with the 2PAC's and the NewPac looks to be experiencing the same issue.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on November 21, 2018, 03:49:56 AM
While this may not be your issue, I found it the hard way. You may want to check to see if your USB controller is and "Intel USB 3.0 eXensible Host Controller". It was a problem with the 2PAC's and the NewPac looks to be experiencing the same issue.

thank you, checking it now

do i need to simply disable it or some other remedy?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 21, 2018, 04:21:30 AM
Still seeing "missing nonces" and "reset" even after trying at 100MHz and one at a time in the plugable. Do I need to turn the dial clock or counter-clock to dial in wattage for stability?

I've found that I have to run at 75 otherwise the unit get's to hot and like in the support thread says it will throw an error to protect your hardware. This is passive cooled, so no fan being used.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 21, 2018, 04:26:18 AM
With these sticks, a little bit of cooling goes a long long way. Note that the uncooled 100MHz power draw and the slightly-cooled 200MHz power draw are pretty much the same. My six 650MHz sticks (drawing 14W each) were collectively cooled by a single 12V/200mA fan.

Also note that these guys can be sensitive to extended overheating. Bake the chips too much and they may never work right again.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on November 21, 2018, 04:39:13 AM
With these sticks, a little bit of cooling goes a long long way. Note that the uncooled 100MHz power draw and the slightly-cooled 200MHz power draw are pretty much the same. My six 650MHz sticks (drawing 14W each) were collectively cooled by a single 12V/200mA fan.

Also, note that these guys can be sensitive to extended overheating. Bake the chips too much and they may never work right again.

I had 2 NewPacs in a plugable with 2 12v fans (powered separately) in a push/pull set up. The highest I had them at was 200MHz where they were showing the same instances. Have stepped down from there having never touched the volt adjustment from stock.

Sipolar is in NY customs hoping to have it early next week then I will be purchasing more of these to fill it up.

Thinking about modifying an extra L3 chassis(if the Siploar will fit inside) to make a wind tunnel-ish type setup. Thoughts or suggestions?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 21, 2018, 04:58:45 AM
I guess a rule of thumb, maybe pun intended, is if I can't hold heat sink for five seconds it needs down clocks or cooling. The six two packs I have now just have a simple case fan cooling them. Look forward to adding these in.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on November 21, 2018, 02:13:36 PM
Admittedly the lightweight fan was barely enough cooling for those six sticks; it only worked as well as it did because my shop's ambient temperature is like 60 degrees right now. Really should have had more for long-term safety.

That's a good rule of thumb. When we had a temp sensor on some early test sticks, VH noted issues starting when the [cooler than the chips and heatsink] PCB reached about 120F.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 22, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
This post is addressed at a few previous ones

do i need to simply disable it or some other remedy?

Unfortunately, there is not alot of options for the Intel USB 3 bug. You can try running the sticks on the USB 2.0 side but that doesnt always work. the USB2 would usually be the ports with the black inner piece apposed to the blue inner piece (USB3). most case front ones are, they have the smaller connector on the motherboard.

I ended up having to use a different PC completely. (admittedly, the first was a laptop and all the ports tied back to the USB3 controller.)

With these sticks, a little bit of cooling goes a long long way. Note that the uncooled 100MHz power draw and the slightly-cooled 200MHz power draw are pretty much the same. My six 650MHz sticks (drawing 14W each) were collectively cooled by a single 12V/200mA fan.

Also note that these guys can be sensitive to extended overheating. Bake the chips too much and they may never work right again.

if your running a single stick, it will run at 100 Mhz passively cooled, we test all our sticks this way because most people that buy from us, buy single sticks and dont understand or care to read. They just plug it in and throw out the instructions.
If you increase quantity or speed, they HAVE to be actively cooled and a handful of "sensitive" sticks require active cooling even at 100Mhz.

Sipolar is in NY customs hoping to have it early next week then I will be purchasing more of these to fill it up.

Thinking about modifying an extra L3 chassis(if the Siploar will fit inside) to make a wind tunnel-ish type setup. Thoughts or suggestions?

While I like the SiPolar 10port, I prefer the Plugable 7 port (and not just beaause we sell them). It's half the cost and will run 4 sticks and USB fans reliably at most speeds. (same one SideHack used in the first post pictures)
I'll be doing some testing this weekend of the SiPolar to see how many and at what speed it can reliably run before we start to see degradation.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on November 23, 2018, 11:53:05 PM
This post is addressed at a few previous ones

[...]

Thank you for the feedback, I ended up hooking up the plugable into a small GPU rig. Between that move and the recent VH update I am seeing far fewer instances of "missing nonces" and "reset".



While were at it, ours is 'BLACKFRIDAY2018' for 10% off entire store order as well.

Black Friday sale today @ ASICPUPPY.COM. Use Promo Code: "BLACKFRIDAY" for 15% off your order.

I've got Newpac units in stock!

NewPacs orders placed, thank you for the heads-up on the discounts.

Grabbed a new Plugable as well just in case your Siploar testing results sway me.



Admittedly the lightweight fan was barely enough cooling for those six sticks; it only worked as well as it did because my shop's ambient temperature is like 60 degrees right now. Really should have had more for long-term safety.

That's a good rule of thumb. When we had a temp sensor on some early test sticks, VH noted issues starting when the [cooler than the chips and heatsink] PCB reached about 120F.

While my ambient temp in my home office is closer to 72F, I have all the excess heat blowing out through the vent cap of the roof.

That was one of the reasons I was looking to build a push/pull tube using the Sipolar to keep them as cool as possible given my environment.

I know it is an expensive idea, but I wondered if or how these would perform in an immersion tank.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 24, 2018, 02:17:37 AM
I find driving the air downward helps cool the sticks and the hub I use since most of them have metal cases. I imagine I'm stressing my shitty hub but the cooler the better eh.

We're not having a sale, but if your grouping up or buying 10 or more you'll be happy with pricing. ;)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Morlok8k on November 26, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Hey, can I get the measurements of the Newpac?

I know it is exactly 1 inch across, but I cant remember how long the PCB is and how long the heatsink is.

I'd measure it myself, but it will be a few days before I'm at home and can do so.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on November 26, 2018, 11:38:37 PM
the heat sink is
1" wide (same as the PCB),
1 9/16" long
1/2" tall
there is a slight gap between the heatsink and the PCB (thickness of chips) about 1/32" of an inch.

the PCB (without the USB port)
1" wide
3 1/8" long
1/16" tall

the USB port is
5/8" long
and usb port sized for length and width :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Morlok8k on November 26, 2018, 11:59:49 PM
[...]

Hahaha, thanks very much!!!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nuanicaj on November 27, 2018, 10:31:18 PM
With these sticks, a little bit of cooling goes a long long way. Note that the uncooled 100MHz power draw and the slightly-cooled 200MHz power draw are pretty much the same. My six 650MHz sticks (drawing 14W each) were collectively cooled by a single 12V/200mA fan.

Also note that these guys can be sensitive to extended overheating. Bake the chips too much and they may never work right again.

I was running my 8 at 250mhz with cooling and my raspberry must have locked up.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on November 29, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Unfortunately, there is not alot of options for the Intel USB 3 bug. You can try running the sticks on the USB 2.0 side but that doesnt always work. the USB2 would usually be the ports with the black inner piece apposed to the blue inner piece (USB3). most case front ones are, they have the smaller connector on the motherboard.

I ended up having to use a different PC completely. (admittedly, the first was a laptop and all the ports tied back to the USB3 controller.)

I have the same intel USB 3.0 controller on two of my high end laptops, and have never experienced this problem. I have used powered USB2.0 and USB3.0 hubs, and have had them plugged into both USB2.0 and USB3.0 ports on the laptop. USB3.0 ports and cables will always have a blue piece of plastic in at least one end of them. USB 2.0 ports should have either a white or black piece of plastic in at least one end of them.

While I like the SiPolar 10port, I prefer the Plugable 7 port (and not just beaause we sell them). It's half the cost and will run 4 sticks and USB fans reliably at most speeds. (same one SideHack used in the first post pictures)
I'll be doing some testing this weekend of the SiPolar to see how many and at what speed it can reliably run before we start to see degradation.

I recently purchased the ICONE/SiPolar 120 Watt 10-Port USB2.0 hub, and have had the Plugable USB3.0 7-Port hub for a while now. I also prefer the Plugable over the ICONE/SiPolar hub, and get much better results from it! After having used both hubs running NewPac sticks for several days now, I would definitely recommend the Plugable 7-Port USB3.0 hub over any other hub I have tried. Please note, I have never used any of the hubs offered by klintay, but I have heard his hubs work very well for running these sticks!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minerbobbert on December 04, 2018, 05:47:52 AM
With these sticks, a little bit of cooling goes a long long way. Note that the uncooled 100MHz power draw and the slightly-cooled 200MHz power draw are pretty much the same. My six 650MHz sticks (drawing 14W each) were collectively cooled by a single 12V/200mA fan.

Also note that these guys can be sensitive to extended overheating. Bake the chips too much and they may never work right again.

So is there a failsafe anyone has figured out for this? I can't monitor the miners 24/7. If the fan goes kaputsky for whatever reason and suddenly the temp spikes, is there any way to tell it to turn off instead of roasting itself alive?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: rockmoney on December 04, 2018, 09:01:03 PM
So is there a failsafe anyone has figured out for this? I can't monitor the miners 24/7. If the fan goes kaputsky for whatever reason and suddenly the temp spikes, is there any way to tell it to turn off instead of roasting itself alive?

To the best of my knowledge, this would not be possible using Windows OS. I would stay away from cheap USB powered fans, and use something much more reliable. Personally, I use a nice 6" fan I picked up at my local ACE Hardware store, and this fan on Amazon is almost just like mine: http://a.co/d/hD9RkyR (http://a.co/d/hD9RkyR). It wasn't the least expensive fan, but you get what you pay for I guess.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on December 05, 2018, 01:36:45 AM
I thought that these would stop hashing if temperature became an issue (?).


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on December 05, 2018, 01:52:30 AM
Technically every miner will stop hashing when temperature becomes an issue. Whether that's a destructive process depends on the miner. These have no temperature-measuring mechanism, or it'd be visible in cgminer.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nuanicaj on December 05, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
Technically every miner will stop hashing when temperature becomes an issue. Whether that's a destructive process depends on the miner. These have no temperature-measuring mechanism, or it'd be visible in cgminer.

I have a fan directly on them and a cold unheated garage.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on December 09, 2018, 04:21:20 AM
I was overthinking my L3 cooling project.

Pulled the BB off the controller and plugged it in and the fans stay running at 70-80% I'm guessing. The L3 fans are very quiet compared to S9's in the shop.

The temperature on the exhaust is holding at 75F and the ambient temperature in the room is 73F. Need to get a laser thermometer for more accurate readings.

I have 7 NewPacs at 200MHz - 860mV on the newest VH release and I'm averaging 452gh/s.
https://i63.tinypic.com/35k0flz.jpg
https://i64.tinypic.com/2el4fpx.jpg

My small GPU rig is only utilizing the 24 pin and 4 molex connections to the fans on the rig from the PSU. I'm using one of the PCI-E connections to power the L3 controller. The GPU's and risers are all powered by an APW3++ making it much quieter in the house. The Linux machine is running the cgminer session.

The whole setup is connected to a pair of APC 1000's just like most the other computers in the house.

Now "WE" feel comfortable leaving these running 24/7.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nuanicaj on December 11, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Code:
Worker Name:	Work Diff	:Last Share	Shares	:Diff	:Share Rate	«Elapsed	:Invalid	Block %	:Hash Rate
bronxnua.1 644 2s 120,165 57,389,200 976.97GHs 10m 54s 0.047% 0.002% 1.05THs
Total: 1 (1 active workers) 120,165 57,389,200 976.97GHs 0.047% 0.002% 1.05THs

I have 16 running at 300mhz with a fan on top of them keeping them cool.

I got the sipolar 20 port 3.0 hub that feeds 2.1a per port.  works with my oddo board great.

Nice so far.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on December 15, 2018, 06:48:58 AM
I know this is not exactly the right forum, but 90% of our customers are here. 419Mining.com now offers Loyalty rewards for purchases moving forward. If you purchased from me recently, newpacs or accessories, send me a DM so I can credit your account. We are also offering points for any reviews left on the site. (only verified purchases can leave reviews)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nostawft on December 16, 2018, 12:59:22 AM
I just got my Newpac up and running. Simple setup, especially since this is my first time. I'm doing an average of 40 Gh/s set at 175.00 MHz with a fan on it. My USB hub arrives tomorrow and I plan to buy three more on ebay plus another fan. Here's a pic of my stats:

https://res.cloudinary.com/latvwsyes/image/upload/v1544921915/50_oqbdtq.png


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on December 16, 2018, 01:01:15 AM
I just got my Newpac up and running. Simple setup, especially since this is my first time. I'm doing an average of 40 Gh/s set at 175.00 MHz with a fan on it. My USB hub arrives tomorrow and I plan to buy three more on ebay plus another fan. Here's a pic of my stats:

https://res.cloudinary.com/latvwsyes/image/upload/v1544921915/50_oqbdtq.png

Awesome Nostawft! And welcome to the club!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: klintay on December 17, 2018, 05:12:02 PM
just got mine in, just started testing but have 3 newpacs running @ 350 MHz
using Sipolar 10 Port 5V 20Amp USB hub: https://www.eyeboot.com/sipolar-10-port-usb-hub.html

https://i.ibb.co/10HbrYY/foto-no-exif-4.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/10HbrYY/foto-no-exif-4.jpg)

average speed is approx 70 GH/pc, very stable, no zombies, and this is with 0 v.core tweaking. these can go a lot faster.
just make sure you are using fans or some sort of cooling system...

Update

Now running @ 500MHz for over 110 GH per miner!!!

https://i.ibb.co/NT5hFjJ/foto-no-exif-5.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/NT5hFjJ/foto-no-exif-5.jpg)

NEWPACs are available for order now, in-stock over here:
https://www.eyeboot.com/gekkoscience-bitcoin-usb-stick-miner-newpac-btc.html


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: aswithin on December 21, 2018, 05:05:40 PM
Update

Now running @ 500MHz for over 110 GH per miner!!!

wow, tres bien!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on December 21, 2018, 06:08:29 PM
GekkoScience Hubs are up and in stock!
https://www.419mining.com/shop/cables/gekkoscience-7-port-base-hub/
make sure you get a power supply for them as well.
We currently have 7A hubs in stock, while you cant max out 6 sticks at at 650Mhz, it should get you up there. As soon as we finish our testing, i can post more specifics.
https://www.419mining.com/shop/power-supply/12v-7amp-power-supply-for-gekkoscience-products/

9A would be idea, but make sure you get good quality. or run on a 6pin computer power supply.

eBay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/254034955561
Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MK5CLMB

Dont forget, buy from 419mining.com online store and earn loyalty points for future discounts!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on January 04, 2019, 10:58:04 PM
Not sure who else has stock out there but free to participate in our group buy listing while we all wait for more production from Gekko Science. Happy New Year.

www.minefarmbuy.com/shopbtc/gekko


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on January 04, 2019, 11:00:45 PM
Not sure who else has stock out there but free to participate in our group buy listing while we all wait for more production from Gekko Science. Happy New Year.

www.minefarmbuy.com/shopbtc/gekko

419mining.com still carries full stock on all GekkoScience Products.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: RoadStress on January 14, 2019, 05:34:44 PM
just got mine in, just started testing but have 3 newpacs running @ 350 MHz

Is 3 newpacs the maximum for this hub? If not then what's the maximum?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on January 14, 2019, 05:45:30 PM
Is 3 newpacs the maximum for this hub? If not then what's the maximum?

The GekkoScience Hub max's out at 6 overclocked sticks, depending on the power supply. the Plugable 7 port is 3 overclocked.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on January 17, 2019, 04:24:00 AM
2-1/2 GS Hubs full of all Newpacs running nicely at 500Mhz. Using the Sipolar power packs to supply 12v and 10a, seems to be working just fine. Hopefully 10a is better than being under 9a on these hubs. I am still working on finding the right fan setup utilizing the 12v pins, suggestions?

Are the 12v fan pins on the side sharing anything with the usb ports or is it on its own?

Love these hubs btw, can't wait to fill these last 8 ports!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on January 17, 2019, 07:27:38 PM
The fan pin is coming straight off the 12V input. On the newer version of the hub (which isn't shipping yet) it's backed by a 2A fuse just in case, but there's no voltage regulation anywhere on the fan pin.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on January 18, 2019, 01:57:22 AM
ok, just wanted to make sure I wasn't taking any power from the ports. The fuse will be nice, perhaps I should have waited before getting all of mine, lol.

I admit I know nothing of how these usb boards are put together but I have a question about future development.

How hard would it be to add a jumper for the option to:

  • tell the hub that the fan is required on the pins (prolly need 3 pins for next part)
  • If the fan stops or slows below x then shut down the hub

Probably too much to ask or add but would be a nice piece of mind feature.

Thank you again for the awesome work.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on January 18, 2019, 03:55:21 AM
A slightly more advanced version (there'll be different levels of features on different models) will have similar capability so it might not be too hard to put that in there as well.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on January 19, 2019, 01:50:03 AM
A slightly more advanced version (there'll be different levels of features on different models) will have similar capability so it might not be too hard to put that in there as well.

Can't wait to see what you come up with next!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on January 19, 2019, 03:23:03 AM
"next" -> "finally"
Hub stuff is a long-overdue project Novak and I came up with sometime in 2015. Wish I'd gotten around to it long before now, with all the wrangle people have gone through trying to line up good hubs for my sticks for the last few years.

Additionally, I know a lot of folks are low on stock but the next batch of NewPacs started manufacture today so they'll be available from your favorite sellers before too much longer.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: buwaytress on January 19, 2019, 12:41:24 PM
Latecomer to this thread, and never considered starting something like this but got a kid wondering and wandering about with my stuff. Would love to get him to start assembling looks relatively simple but probably will only settle later for a place where the whole shindig's available from 1 place (plus maybe would be nice to wait for BTC to recover a little).

Any one or more of you guys open to an interview with a journalist, writing a feature-story type article for an online publication? Feel free to PM!


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: House Xylander on January 20, 2019, 06:49:24 PM
I was overthinking my L3 cooling project.

Pulled the BB off the controller and plugged it in and the fans stay running at 70-80% I'm guessing. The L3 fans are very quiet compared to S9's in the shop.

The temperature on the exhaust is holding at 75F and the ambient temperature in the room is 73F. Need to get a laser thermometer for more accurate readings.

I have 7 NewPacs at 200MHz - 860mV on the newest VH release and I'm averaging 452gh/s.
https://i63.tinypic.com/35k0flz.jpg
https://i64.tinypic.com/2el4fpx.jpg

My small GPU rig is only utilizing the 24 pin and 4 molex connections to the fans on the rig from the PSU. I'm using one of the PCI-E connections to power the L3 controller. The GPU's and risers are all powered by an APW3++ making it much quieter in the house. The Linux machine is running the cgminer session.

The whole setup is connected to a pair of APC 1000's just like most the other computers in the house.

Now "WE" feel comfortable leaving these running 24/7.

Now that I have GS hubs for all my NewPacs I have removed the controller board from the equation and plugged the fan directly into the pins on the hub. Guess I just need to wait a bit for Sidehack and Novak to "finally" produce the hubs they have been wanting to produce.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: superdaddynz on January 21, 2019, 07:45:48 AM
I've started using 2PAC and seems working fine and now thinking of buying more NewPAC sticks.

Definitely it's difficult to find a BTC block while heavy ASICs are running over the world.

@sidehack, do you think BM1387 can handle input data more than 80 bytes (of BTC header) with modified cgminer?
I mean my question is for example an alt coin uses sha256d of 84 bytes (same as BTC but with an extra 4 bytes comes before "nonce"). Then can NewPAC be useful?
I cannot figure out whether it is possible that BM1387 is completely fixed on 64 bytes (midstate) + the rest 16 bytes or is it possible (you might know) to set some flag and accept (let's say) midstate + 20 bytes rather than 16 bytes.

Please forgive me if this is rather odd question but try to find out a good use of this NewPAC.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: WilcoWi on February 02, 2019, 08:39:16 PM
Now running @ 500MHz for over 110 GH per miner!!!

Same here @500 MHz with 112.6 GH and stable, air cooled.
I am very amazed with this


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nuanicaj on February 27, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
Not sure who else has stock out there but free to participate in our group buy listing while we all wait for more production from Gekko Science. Happy New Year.

www.minefarmbuy.com/shopbtc/gekko

Thanks got my order for 10 units tracking..  :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on February 27, 2019, 05:09:26 PM
Try not to destroy these. I recommend leaving the voltage stock and using a fan.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on February 27, 2019, 05:41:51 PM
Thanks got my order for 10 units tracking..  :)

Nice, hopefully all the bugs are finally worked out for our auto-notifications.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nuanicaj on February 28, 2019, 06:10:48 PM
Try not to destroy these. I recommend leaving the voltage stock and using a fan.

Please set them to be high.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: vh on February 28, 2019, 06:54:01 PM
Please set them to be high.

In case the original comment didn't register.

Leave them at stock, you'll end up destroying the stick otherwise.

Potentiometer @ 3 o'clock can run up to 500MHz.
The default is at about 4-5 o'clock.   You can run up to 600MHz+ there.   Don't change it.

Again, It is highly recommended you don't change the default voltage.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on February 28, 2019, 07:14:08 PM
The one I just received in the mail was cranked all the way up, and quite obviously heat-damaged with a lot of discoloration on the PCB.

Leaving the voltage at stock and using a fan will prevent this. Taking better care of your stuff means not having to replace them all the time.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: nuanicaj on February 28, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
The one I just received in the mail was cranked all the way up, and quite obviously heat-damaged with a lot of discoloration on the PCB.

Leaving the voltage at stock and using a fan will prevent this. Taking better care of your stuff means not having to replace them all the time.

I have an AC fan cooling them down running at 250mhz.

Thanks see that my units have shipped.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on March 02, 2019, 09:54:48 PM
Even at stock speeds I'd run a fan on the newpacs. 70-90 CFM should be fine per GS Hub.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on March 07, 2019, 04:57:31 PM
Just received my three NewPac's and the new Gekkoscience Hub

Arctic cooling USB fan added to the hub

All I can say is "WOW"

All put together along with the updated software from vh, painless as always

Running at stock speed and fast

Perfect combination of hardware :D



Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: WilcoWi on March 14, 2019, 11:52:47 PM
Running mine with GS hub on 600 and 550 of course with cooling. Hardly any Hw errors stable for weeks already with 135 GHs and 125 GHs
Indeed great hardware combination.
The stick @ 550 wasn't able to go that far @ first, 400 was max. Did turn potentiometer about 20 degrees (did turn in little steps), now stable @ 550 and not overheating at all.

Only things i did not figure out yet, was the boost option. CGminer (v4.11.1) won't start when i am using that option.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on March 15, 2019, 12:20:49 AM
Won't start, or won't connect to your pool of choice?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: WilcoWi on March 15, 2019, 12:59:02 AM
Won't start, or won't connect to your pool of choice?

won't start, screen stays black.
When i remove the newpac boost option, its all fine again.
Tried putting it @ end of line, @ beginning, @ middel, no effect at all

Could it b the pool i am mining @? Does the pool need to support the boost option?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on March 15, 2019, 02:27:49 AM
I think there's a known issue with enabling AB on a non-AB pool. It changes something at the protocol level so it won't even connect properly. Not sure if that's exactly what you're seeing but it could be. Check to make sure your pool supports ASICBoost.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: WilcoWi on March 15, 2019, 06:58:31 PM
I think there's a known issue with enabling AB on a non-AB pool. It changes something at the protocol level so it won't even connect properly. Not sure if that's exactly what you're seeing but it could be. Check to make sure your pool supports ASICBoost.

Found an whitepaper about asic boost https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00575.pdf (https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00575.pdf)
and website of the inventor of asicboost
https://www.asicboost.com/ (https://www.asicboost.com/)


Edit: seems the people behind this info are doing it with other people ideas.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on March 15, 2019, 07:14:02 PM
Okay great, but that doesn't have much to do with the specifics of driver implementation.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on March 15, 2019, 10:55:19 PM
No offence to Bitcoin's, but I only know one whitepaper with a use case in my house.

Also, I haven't tried current software but never was able to get asic boost to work with winX builds. Still you're not losing as much with a stick miner compared to industrial asics. Hopefully I get more time to troubleshoot again.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: WilcoWi on March 16, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
Okay great, but that doesn't have much to do with the specifics of driver implementation.

Asic boost is an option that has to be supported by the pool. The one i am mining on is not supporting it, clear to me now.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: klintay on March 20, 2019, 04:42:15 PM
Just received my three NewPac's and the new Gekkoscience Hub

Arctic cooling USB fan added to the hub

All I can say is "WOW"

All put together along with the updated software from vh, painless as always

Running at stock speed and fast

Perfect combination of hardware :D

yup vh did an amazing job with the driver, the newpac runs very stable even when running more than 10 at the same time
Gekkoscience's new 8 port/7 port usb hubs are another level quality and build too IMHO

https://i.ibb.co/6rgsGDr/gekkoscience-7-port-usb-hub1.jpg (https://www.eyeboot.com/gekkoscience-8-port-usb-huh.html)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on March 20, 2019, 08:15:58 PM
Found an whitepaper about asic boost https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00575.pdf (https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00575.pdf)
and website of the inventor of asicboost
https://www.asicboost.com/ (https://www.asicboost.com/)
Just to keep the Record straight:
The company asicboost.com is NOT the 'inventor' of AB. They are a holding company that bought the AB Patent from Dr. Timo Hanke. The company was created to leverage the AB patent as a way to get IP rights from miner manufacturers by using what they call a "Blockchain Defensive Patent License". Thankfully so far they have failed miserably at that. btw: Their only listed Contact is through a Law office in Chicago.

Even Dr. Hanke is not the inventor of ASICboost: Many if not most parts of the AB logic processes and code were created by other developers (Kano is one of them) as speed optimizations originally aimed at CPU then later, GPU based BTC mining and discussed here in the Forum at least a year or more before Dr. Hanke applied for his Patent or published his paper. Kano has made mention of contributing such CPU/GPU code mods back in 2013 (edit: Citations needed). Dr. Hanke was only the first to publicly put it all together targeting it for use in ASIC-based SHA256 processing chips, have the concept (now being hardware-based) published in Academia as a whitepaper, and managed to get his version of AB Patented as such.

edit: Interesting -- I take it the original AB Patent has been revoked or at least suspended while being contested. Checking the AB site they now state that it is Patent Pending whereas previously when they and Halong Mining appeared on the scene back in November 2017 they unequivocally called it Patented. Even more interesting is that when you click on the link for their Blockchain Defensive Patent License, FireFox blocks it stating the site is improperly configured -- given the folks who are suspected to be behind that onerous, IP-grabbing patent license, their site attempting to do something shady does not surprise me in the least.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Valnurat on April 05, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
yup vh did an amazing job with the driver, the newpac runs very stable even when running more than 10 at the same time
Gekkoscience's new 8 port/7 port usb hubs are another level quality and build too IMHO...

Are you saying that the 7-port is not the best choice?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on April 05, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
They're both pretty much the same. Both would allow you to run six NewPacs at ridiculous speeds, but the 8-port would allow you to also run a Pi controller or USB-powered fan at the same time.
Assuming you had enough 12V coming in for all of that.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Valnurat on April 05, 2019, 03:21:27 PM
They're both pretty much the same. Both would allow you to run six NewPacs at ridiculous speeds, but the 8-port would allow you to also run a Pi controller or USB-powered fan at the same time.
Assuming you had enough 12V coming in for all of that.

My power source would be your breakout board for a HP-DPS800, if I can find it. So it can't run a PI controller and a 12v fan and USB fan?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on April 05, 2019, 03:59:30 PM
My power source would be your breakout board for a HP-DPS800, if I can find it. So it can't run a PI controller and a 12v fan and USB fan?

our web store still keeps the break out boards and HP1200 power supplies in stock if needed.
https://www.419mining.com/product-category/power-supply/


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on April 05, 2019, 05:51:23 PM
Why would you need both a 12V fan and a USB fan?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Valnurat on April 05, 2019, 06:54:44 PM
 :)

I don't know. Maybe I'm just trying to find out why there's an option to add a fan on the 12V if you can use a USB fan.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Valnurat on April 05, 2019, 06:56:28 PM
our web store still keeps the break out boards and HP1200 power supplies in stock if needed.
https://www.419mining.com/product-category/power-supply/

@419mining, Thank you, but you don't ship outside of US. Only from eBay and I don't see the breakout board on ebay. I have HP800 power supply.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on April 05, 2019, 07:28:10 PM
Because some people only have one or the other, and supporting both only added like twenty cents to the cost so why not.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on April 05, 2019, 09:28:08 PM
I having downward and side moment on these anyway. Open air hub and all, not that cooling matters too much there comparatively.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Dragonizer on April 07, 2019, 12:15:28 PM
What is the point in mining using Gh?  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Valnurat on April 07, 2019, 04:58:26 PM
Because some people only have one or the other, and supporting both only added like twenty cents to the cost so why not.

Thumps up


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 419mining on April 08, 2019, 12:32:01 PM
What is the point in mining using Gh?  ??? ??? ???

The idea being that the miners use minimal power in for the output, yes in Gh, there by creating a VERY efficient mining tool that allows for not only people looking for creative power efficient ideas, but schools and teaches a cost effective way to teach how blockchain/mining works.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on April 09, 2019, 07:03:31 PM
Some numbers

Second GekkoScience hub & 6 Newpacs arrived yesterday (Thanks MFB)

2 Gekko hubs & 12 Newpacs setup to run at 200Mhz

ASICBoost on is 67W at the wall

ASICBoost off is 73W at the wall

Hash rate is 543Gh/s's at CK's pools

Cooling with plug-in Arctic Breeze Mobile fans, 2 per hub

Raspberry Pi3+ with VH's latest code

Gotta love in-home, quiet mining.....

:D

https://i.imgur.com/qml9yjR.jpg?1


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on April 09, 2019, 07:16:42 PM
Awesome, thanks buying and working with us.  :D


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: scryptr on April 14, 2019, 10:46:00 PM
IS A NEW POD MINER IN STORE? --

I saw a post about an "Optimus606".  It was on the top of this hardware thread for a brief time.  The post described a pod miner similar to the Terminus808, but using the newer 1387 chips as in the current NewPac stick miner.

Is it to be available in the near future?       --scryptr


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on April 14, 2019, 10:48:12 PM
Yea, Terminus R606.

A few sellers out there for First batch North American Pre Orders.

Our listings are www.minefarmbuy.com/product-category/gekko-science


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on April 14, 2019, 10:49:10 PM
The official announcement thread is a few down from the top right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131245.0


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Valnurat on April 18, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
So 6 of these NewPac is the same as your R606?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on April 18, 2019, 12:25:37 PM
6 NewPacs is 12 ASICs, like the R606. However the pod doesn't require a high-powered USB hub, or an external fan, or a screwdriver and meter for voltage adjustment, and the main regulator is rated for higher current which means the potential for more speed.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on April 22, 2019, 07:06:16 PM
The idea being that the miners use minimal power in for the output, yes in Gh, there by creating a VERY efficient mining tool that allows for not only people looking for creative power efficient ideas, but schools and teaches a cost effective way to teach how blockchain/mining works.

Would give you merit for your post too if I had it.  This idea of stick mining has been bumping around in my head for a while now but I have yet to take the plunge and actually buy any hardware.  Learning about mining is a reward in and of itself, but my concern is that it won't be worth it financially.

But that setup in the op (looks like 36 sticks, did not count) is a thing of beauty.  

Is it true that philipma1957 mines using solar power?  I read that in another thread and my attention pricked up immediately.  I have not seen any threads around devoted to utilizing solar power to mine bitcoin or anything else, but then again I just recently started browsing the mining section.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: K21000 on April 29, 2019, 04:22:35 PM
Just received 2 of these in the mail today. After mining with them for a couple of hours I thought to post my experience here to help out people who are trying to decide to buy this or not.

The pros:

- cgminer picks up and runs the miner with no problems (I have had miners in the past that have caused me lots of trouble in this area)
- Overclocking actually works (I had mine overclocked to 150 MHz for a stable 34Ghs/second)
- Active support thread on bitcoin talk if you need asistance

The cons:

- Passive cooling is terrible (Ran mine off passive cooling for about 10 minutes and the miner began to fail due to heat stress, Active cooling even at base 100mhz is a MUST!)

cgminer screenshot:

https://imgur.com/VOrfYkp


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on April 29, 2019, 04:23:41 PM
So was that with the gekko version of cgminer or the standard version?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: K21000 on April 29, 2019, 04:28:49 PM
So was that with the gekko version of cgminer or the standard version?

It was with the Gekkoscience build of cgminer.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: minefarmbuy on April 29, 2019, 05:55:51 PM
In the support thread or here I talk about the heat sink being too hot to touch without cooling. I'd always use a fan or downclock if not.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: philipma1957 on May 04, 2019, 02:59:22 AM
... Is it true that philipma1957 mines using solar power?  I read that in another thread and my attention pricked up immediately.  I have not seen any threads around devoted to utilizing solar power to mine bitcoin or anything else, but then again I just recently started browsing the mining section.

Yes me and buysolar have two locations.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: K21000 on May 08, 2019, 04:46:07 AM
What type of usb cable is needed to connect the gekko hub to a pc usb port? Mine just arrived and there is no usb cable included.

Can a usb-a to usb-b cable be used to connect the gekko hub to a pc usb port? Something like this: https://www.4cabling.com.au/3m-usb-3-0-am-bm-cable.html.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on May 08, 2019, 06:16:47 AM
What type of usb cable is needed to connect the gekko hub to a pc usb port? Mine just arrived and there is no usb cable included.

Can a usb-a to usb-b cable be used to connect the gekko hub to a pc usb port? Something like this: https://www.4cabling.com.au/3m-usb-3-0-am-bm-cable.html.

That cable is the USB 3.0 type. You need the same A to B but a USB 2.0 type.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: K21000 on May 08, 2019, 09:23:14 AM
That cable is the USB 3.0 type. You need the same A to B but a USB 2.0 type.

Is USB 2.0 absolutely necessary? If i were to use a usb 3.0 usb-a to usb-b connecter would it not just throttle down to usb 2.0 speeds? I thought Usb 3.0 was backwards compatible.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on May 08, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
The usb2 type B connector is different from what ive seen and doesnt fit the port on the hub. I ordered the usb2 version for the couple of bucks it costs.

Edit:-

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-USB-Type-A-and-USB-Type-C

Check that link out the connectors are distinctly different. (Ignore the title, look at the images).


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: K21000 on May 08, 2019, 11:04:28 AM
Just bought a USB 3.0 A-B connecter and it seems to be working with the gekko hub. Cgminer is picking up both my newpacs and they are running fine so far. I have to say though the "USB 2" label on the gekko hub is a bit misleading because if someone actually tried to use a USB 2.0 A-B connector it would not fit into the usb port on the hub. Maybe it should be relabelled to "USB 3.0" in future versions?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on May 08, 2019, 11:44:25 AM
Just bought a USB 3.0 A-B connecter and it seems to be working with the gekko hub. Cgminer is picking up both my newpacs and they are running fine so far. I have to say though the "USB 2" label on the gekko hub is a bit misleading because if someone actually tried to use a USB 2.0 A-B connector it would not fit into the usb port on the hub. Maybe it should be relabelled to "USB 3.0" in future versions?

I think youre a bit confused. The usb2 type B connector is what is fitted to the hub. Sidehack doesnt make simple mistakes like that. So either youve got a usb2 type B or its been mislabelled, as you can see from the pictures in the link above that the usb3 type B has an “extra” bit on the too which would not fit the hub.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: K21000 on May 08, 2019, 02:16:45 PM
I think youre a bit confused. The usb2 type B connector is what is fitted to the hub. Sidehack doesnt make simple mistakes like that. So either youve got a usb2 type B or its been mislabelled, as you can see from the pictures in the link above that the usb3 type B has an “extra” bit on the too which would not fit the hub.

On closer inspection it seems you are correct. I requested a usb 3.0 type b cable from my local hardware shop but they seem to have given me a usb 2.0 type b cable instead. Not complaining though since it is exactly what i needed.  

The usb2 type B connector is different from what ive seen and doesnt fit the port on the hub...

Maybe you meant usb 3 type B connector?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on May 08, 2019, 02:45:55 PM
Maybe you meant usb 3 type B connector?

Yes that was a typo, glad you got the right one in the end. A happy mistake which means you're on the road and hashing away. :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on June 01, 2019, 01:49:00 AM
Does it matter if the 4 port USB hub have external power with 3 GekkoScience hubs plugged into it?
The 4 port hub is plugged into a RPI3+
Seems to be a some issues with 3rd party hubs back powering the RP
I unplugged the 4 port hub to let it hash overnight with the eighteen NP's
Nothing else will be plugged into the 4 port hub
I don't want to damage the PP or the GS hubs


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on June 01, 2019, 02:16:53 AM
The GS hub neither draws power from the upstream bus, nor returns power to the upstream bus.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on June 15, 2019, 04:11:02 PM
Great info, thanks. The hashing numbers haven't changed so the 4 port hub will not be powered



@ vh regarding CGminer and GS devices
Does one instance of CGminer running many Newpacs equate to one device to the CGminer itself internally?
Or is it the string of chips that determine one device?
The pool sees it as one miner o/c
I'm assuming the R606 is more powerful & efficient with 12 chips in series as compared to 2 chips in series times 6 on one GS hub
Does the mixing of Newpacs & 2-Pacs on the same GS hub impact performance on hashing or should they be run separately with another Pi? The numbers look fine
Newbie questions   :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on June 15, 2019, 04:39:02 PM
Each USB connection is a separate device.

The pool sees a single miner because there's one instance of cgminer with a single connection to the pool as a single worker. If you used multiple instances pointed to the same worker it'd be the same. If you use different pool workers, one for each instance of cgminer, you can get per-connection stats.

The R606 is capable of higher speeds than six NewPacs even on a GS hub. The Vcore regulator on the R606 is good for 20A while the NewPac's main regulator can run 17A (at a bit lower efficiency), and NewPacs shouldn't be run at more than 3A input current, meaning more power is available to the chips in the R606 so the theoretical peak hashrate is higher.

VH can answer the question about mixing on hubs better, but overall it shouldn't have much effect. The main limits are power and USB throughput. Both sticks can draw the same power so that's not an issue. NewPacs run a higher hashrate so USB throughput is increased, but hubs use a bit more efficient packet structure so it shouldn't be possible to hit the throughput cap with only stickminers on a single hub, especially if you're using an ASICBoost-capable pool because that reduces USB traffic to AB-enabled devices by about 70%. As long as you keep everything cool there shouldn't be a problem.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: merlin3650 on June 16, 2019, 03:52:01 AM
SO, now that everyone has had a chance to overclock the NewPacs, can someone tell me how many watts are needed at the 400-500mhz setting?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on June 16, 2019, 04:44:02 AM
I was just about to say something snarky about there being a table in the NewPac Support thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053833.0) but it only goes up to about 300MHz so that's not directly helpful.

However, since most sticks will run up to 400-500MHz on the stock voltage setting, you can probably extrapolate fairly accurately. At 300MHz it's listed as about 6.8W so 400MHz would be about 9W and 500MHz at 11.3W
For a typical stick, 15W should be enough to get past 600MHz though you might have to up the Vcore a little for stability.

The actual power draw will depend a lot on the efficacy of your cooling, as demonstrated by that the passive-cooled power draw at 125MHz is larger than the cooled draw at 200MHz. These sticks like to be kept cold.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: merlin3650 on June 16, 2019, 05:00:18 AM
Thanks for the response. And yes, I too saw the graph at the beginning of this thread. I was just wondering how much power peoples home mining rigs used.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Meech on June 16, 2019, 12:45:35 PM
Had to laugh about the blinky lights, best selling factor!  Hmmm miss those light shows.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on June 16, 2019, 01:00:18 PM
"Each USB connection is a separate device."
Thanks sidehack!  :D

@ merlin - 141W here using 18 NewPac's at 250Mhz and two 2-Pac's at 100Mhz for 1.043T/hs. I use two Arctic USB fans on each GS hub. One RP3+ is runnnig all four GS hubs using a passive USB 2 hub to hook up everything. Easy on the ears and the power bill....


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: vh on June 17, 2019, 03:20:04 PM
@merlin3650
I had some measurements a little further into the thread.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053833.msg47766551#msg47766551
I'll bring some of those numbers back to the first post in a moment or two.


@evade_57
For each device, cgminer spins up a dedicated set of supporting threads.  So they are suppose to work like their own instances.

In general, it's okay to mix until you run out of share resources, (cpu, memory, bandwidth, power).

A miner that doesn't behave can potentially draw resources away from healthy ones which:
- can affect other miners sharing the same regulator.
- can affect other miners sharing the same cgminer instance.

Probably good to group them in a meaningful way to control the collateral devices that are effected, should you need to:
- troubleshoot / tune a miner.
- restart cgminer.
- move the hub.
- change pools.
- restart the computer.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on September 28, 2019, 05:29:35 AM
@vh
Just purchased a Pi 4 to run the 18 Newpacs & two 2-pacs on 4 Gekko hubs but having some grief
Git pull & install was easy as with the 3b+ as outlined from Page 1 on the other main forum
However I have problems running beyond 6 Newpacs on one Gekko hub
Freezing, kernel panics, etc
The Pi 4 setup is from Canakit & the 4gb version
Is it possible to download the cgminer from around March 07, 2019 for installation on the Pi4 to try?
3b+ back online hashing perfectly with that version.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on September 28, 2019, 01:05:19 PM
If you've already downloaded it to the 3b+, just copy the folder across and recompile.

Also, depending on what your speed settings are, it's difficult to run more than 6 sticks on a Gekko hub anyway because the D/1 port power also powers the hub electronics so if you pull too much there the hub's brain will start flaking out. Something like 400MHz on near-stock voltage should be possible but it depends on the chips.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: evade_57 on September 28, 2019, 01:24:22 PM
Thanks Sidehack!
Poor communication on my part
I can't run beyond one hub is how it should have read
I limit 6 six sticks per hub with two USB fans in my configuration of the hubs with the Newpacs
The Pi 4 freaks out if I plug in more hubs including the one with the two 2-Pacs while the first one is running
If I boot with all hubs attached, cgminer boots and freezes, in turn freezing the Pi4
I was able to exit once and the exit screen was full of kernel panics
I can copy the folder onto a usb key but unsure how to recompile with the Pi4
As per your previous suggestion, I am running the Newpacs at a higher rate (300mhz) and they run perfectly
Heat sink temps are around 88F
All help appreciated, thanks again!  :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: NearKit on September 11, 2020, 01:10:24 PM
Hi Everyone,

I need to contact VH or Sidehack for a dev question on GekkoScience Mining USB stick.
is it possible than they contact me?

Many Thanks for your help
Near


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on September 11, 2020, 01:25:44 PM
Is it a hardware question or a software question?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: HarrySquater on February 22, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Are there any plans for restocking NewPac?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: saxtron3000 on February 24, 2021, 01:51:46 PM
Are there any plans for restocking NewPac?

I'd like to get one - slowly getting in to nodes, mining and lightning network at home through a small Raspberry Pi set-up. It would be good to get one if these new - all the deals on eBay and Amazon are being sold at wack prices. Guess the halvening killed these machines - but, hey, its not about the money just wanted an ASIC chip to mess with.

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: 100knot2dae on February 24, 2021, 07:09:34 PM
If you are EU based, bitshopper.de has had some in stock.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Filax on March 12, 2021, 09:17:04 AM
Hey Smiley

Just few words to give an idea for Newpak owners! Those keys are very funny to use (and indestructible), the most big problem is the cooling. I tryed many solutions via fan etc and after 2 years of work :) I finally got a good setup!

The solution is : Get out the native passive cooler and replace it by a bigger one! I printed with PLA a support base and this aluminium cooler is cooldown by a 90 mm PC fan... And another fan in front to cool the other electronics chips.

This setup allow me to put a freq of 400/420 Mhz (10 keys)  for a hashrate of 950 Mh/s - 1 Th/s  for 130 watts.

http://blitz3dfr.free.fr/images/Newpak_01.jpg

http://blitz3dfr.free.fr/images/Newpak_02.jpg


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on March 12, 2021, 03:46:56 PM
Nice setup. But thats not as far as they can go. I had 6 running 650m for 140Ghs each being cooled by a 92mm fan. Ran like a champ for 18months no problems.

With your setup you should get that no problem.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: sidehack on March 12, 2021, 09:53:07 PM
Did you tune the voltage? 130 watts for only 1TH across 10 sticks isn't that great, can probably do better.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: oldman123 on March 15, 2021, 02:08:25 AM
I have a few NewPacs and one of them had been underperforming the rest and now it seems like it is on it's last leg. All of them are on a Gekko hub with a high speed server fan blowing down on them to keep them real cool.     Now  I can't get it running at standard frequency (100) with any type of consistent results.    I have changed the voltage a bit to see if that would help, but everytime I try it, the output looks like this:

Code:
cgminer version 4.11.1 - Started: [2021-03-14 22:00:52.738]                                                            
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------                    
(5s):1.185G (1m):1.063G (5m):309.8M (15m):110.6M (avg):1.716Gh/s                                                      
 A:0  R:32768  HW:0  WU:24.0/m | ST: 1  SS: 0  NB: 2  LW: 326  GF: 0  RF: 0                                              
Connected to prohashing.com diff 32.8K with stratum as user xxxxxxx                                                
Block: c5e7c5ba...  Diff:1.67G  Started: [22:01:21.123]  Best share: 1.1K    
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 0: GSH 10033302: BM1387:02+ 75/75/ 15 (499:251) [oo]   |  4.7% WU:^ 5% | 2.376G / 800.2Mh/s WU:11.2/m A:0 R:0 HW:0

The green LED is on all the time and the white one is on when powered on and then goes between on and off while the cgminer is running.

Any thoughts?    Is there a way to confirm what the voltage is out of the adjustment pot?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on March 15, 2021, 10:31:53 AM
There should be pads on the back for testing the voltage with a multimeter. Something like Vcore and GND.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: oldman123 on March 15, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
I don't see anything marked like that.   I see, A, F, N0, N1,  4,8 and 16 as marked items along with one pad circled.

the card is v6.3d.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Filax on March 15, 2021, 04:24:30 PM
There should be pads on the back for testing the voltage with a multimeter. Something like Vcore and GND.

Hi

The problem is, i don't find clear informations to setup voltage screw!, it's very nebulous... I tryed a freq of 500 MHz but i get lot of errors? Maybe the screw is not setuped correctly (i got the initial screw setup)

Regards


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on March 15, 2021, 10:38:30 PM
I don't see anything marked like that.   I see, A, F, N0, N1,  4,8 and 16 as marked items along with one pad circled...
the card is v6.3d

Sorry my mistake. That was the previous generation stick. Not sure where the newpac probe points are. They will be mentioned in this thread somewhere.

The problem is, i don't find clear informations to setup voltage screw!, it's very nebulous... I tryed a freq of 500 MHz but i get lot of errors? Maybe the screw is not setuped correctly (i got the initial screw setup)

The voltage pot should have the flat side set to about 4 - 5 o’clock if the stick is orientated so the heatsink is laying on a surface and the usb connector is closest to you. These shouldnt need voltage adjustment though. I ran mine at stock voltage and got a freq of 650m.

Usually poor performance and errors is due the USB hub you are using.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: harmonicdrive on March 15, 2021, 11:58:37 PM
I'd be happy if I could buy more 606's :/


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: heslo on March 16, 2021, 05:03:33 AM
I'd be happy if I could buy more 606's :/

Looking to sell mine, if you're keen hit me up and we might be able to sort something out :)


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: vintag386 on May 19, 2021, 11:03:47 PM
There should be pads on the back for testing the voltage with a multimeter. Something like Vcore and GND.

Hi

The problem is, i don't find clear informations to setup voltage screw!, it's very nebulous... I tryed a freq of 500 MHz but i get lot of errors? Maybe the screw is not setuped correctly (i got the initial screw setup)

Regards

I found that messing with the voltage screw really didn't help. I deleted all my instances of cgminer and reinstalled it from scratch using the instructions in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053833.0, and it worked great. You have to have a good USB hub and cooling, but it helped me get the newpacs running great.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: FuzzyBear on June 27, 2021, 10:43:43 AM
Hey Smiley

Just few words to give an idea for Newpak owners! Those keys are very funny to use (and indestructible), the most big problem is the cooling. I tryed many solutions via fan etc and after 2 years of work :) I finally got a good setup!

The solution is : Get out the native passive cooler and replace it by a bigger one! I printed with PLA a support base and this aluminium cooler is cooldown by a 90 mm PC fan... And another fan in front to cool the other electronics chips.

This setup allow me to put a freq of 400/420 Mhz (10 keys)  for a hashrate of 950 Mh/s - 1 Th/s  for 130 watts.

http://blitz3dfr.free.fr/images/Newpak_01.jpg

http://blitz3dfr.free.fr/images/Newpak_02.jpg

Just wanted to say this is a lovely setup you have running here, giving me miner envy!



Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: kalamc on December 01, 2021, 01:20:33 PM
Hello all I need some help setting up my Gekkoscience newpac with Antpool I can not get it to link to my account or even show any workers on the screen at all.
What is the best mining pool for the Gekkoscience newpac? Please someone help me


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: gt_addict on December 01, 2021, 04:18:12 PM
Hello all I need some help setting up my Gekkoscience newpac with Antpool I can not get it to link to my account or even show any workers on the screen at all.
What is the best mining pool for the Gekkoscience newpac? Please someone help me

Any pool should accept the stick. The trouble with a big pool like Antpoo. Is that your stick is almost insignificant, so it will probably only show up once it has found a share at the diff dictated by the pool. How long did you leave it for before saying it doesnt work? does the stick hash at all? if so then it is working but its the pool side not picking it up. Just be patient.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: HagssFIN on December 01, 2021, 06:57:59 PM
@kalamc

I would go 'solo lottery mining' at Kano.is (you can create a solo mining account) or solo.ckpool.org


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Davidd82 on June 06, 2023, 06:31:04 PM
It seems this is the last post from the admin FuzzyBear. Please does anyone know how i can get my Devtome account up?
I already sent a message to admin FuzzyBear but his last post is saying 2021, please can anybody help me out on how to get Devtome account??


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: Davidd82 on June 06, 2023, 06:37:40 PM
@ admin FuzzyBear, I already sent you a message according to the instruction given but i'm seeing a new criteria for getting a Devtome account here in one of the threads posted in this forum that if my username starts from G to L, that i'm to message you but my username started with a "D" @Davidd82 and i already sent you a direct message because ur admin was the one i saw to message first if a username starts from A-F.
Also, after sending you a message, i realise you do not enable messages from newbies and just have to find one of your posts and get ur attention. I will be so grateful if you help.


Title: Re: Announcing GekkoScience's new USB stick miner, the aptly-named NewPac
Post by: BitMaxz on June 06, 2023, 08:17:29 PM
It seems this is the last post from the admin FuzzyBear. Please does anyone know how i can get my Devtome account up?
I already sent a message to admin FuzzyBear but his last post is saying 2021, please can anybody help me out on how to get Devtome account??
Are you sure? He is active here recently it would be better make a separate thread about devtome because this thread is for Gekkoscience.

Or bring your concern to their official thread here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.0)

Ok I just PM him for you and expect for response through PM.