Bitcoin Forum

Alternate cryptocurrencies => Mining (Altcoins) => Topic started by: baikal on October 26, 2018, 02:30:47 PM



Title: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: baikal on October 26, 2018, 02:30:47 PM
 https://i.imgur.com/ZmHnHLsl.png


Contact info.
Offical website: www.baikalminer.com
official email   :baikal@baikalminer.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BK-G28 will need total 14 PCI-E plugs and it is recommended that all 14 connectors connected, but if are not able to get enough plug, make it at least 9 connectors plugged. see below:
There is no PCI-E cable included in the box, kindly note this.

"2 hash boards, with fan cable attached, plug two connectors,  other 5 hash boards can plug just one connector“

https://i.imgur.com/qpZcwkwl.png


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Ironeinstein on October 26, 2018, 03:01:57 PM
Please don't overprice this one... profit is only $7/day


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: fabry1999 on October 26, 2018, 03:15:40 PM
I just contacted Baikal on Skype and the price is 1299 USD for at least 100pcs , really bad for small miners !!!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: not.you on October 26, 2018, 03:38:28 PM
This is obviously using the same chips as the BK-X and this unit does Groestl so I think we have the proof that Baikal has been able to mine Groestl with the BK-X.  So when do we get the firmware for that?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on October 26, 2018, 03:39:40 PM
It has a better efficiency than a X10. Factor 2.8 more hashrate and about 20% less electricity.
I would guess its just power optimized X10 chips. Maybe a X10 could also be optimized like this. I dont think they developed new chips. Or they just binned the chips and sorted the best out for the new miner.
I dont think the specific miner kills the X10. The hashrate increase will just decrease the profits in general. But I doubt a lot of there will be bought. We'll see.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: sierracossie86 on October 26, 2018, 03:58:54 PM
Think baikalminer need to come up with a new and innovative miner instead of doing the "same" old.
This miner in my opinion, is already "old".
Not very profitable.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Hehehenky on October 26, 2018, 03:59:43 PM
Interesting but not a buy. Is 7 USD factual? What algo/coin?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Ironeinstein on October 26, 2018, 04:04:12 PM
The efficiency isn't a huge improvement over the X10:

X10 @ 630W for X11 algo or 63W/GH
G28 @ 1300W for X11 algo or 46W/GH

The other algos seems to have a similar efficiency increase. Not insignificant, but not a game changer either. To give an idea what's possible efficiency wise for X11:

Spondoolies SPx36 @ 4400W for 540GH is 8.1 W/GH
Innosilicon A5+ @ 1500W for 65GH is 23W/GH

The one advantage here is there are multiple algorithms available, so Bitmain can't nuke the algo and make the miner worthless.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Ironeinstein on October 26, 2018, 04:07:13 PM
Interesting but not a buy. Is 7 USD factual? What algo/coin?

https://whattomine.com/asic

Current profitability is $9/day on DGB-Qubit
Those numbers fluctuate quite a bit, so look at the top 5, which are all $7-9/day after electric.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: newgencryptomaker on October 26, 2018, 04:23:06 PM
BKX10 upgrade firmware possible G28 got


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Shorty2520 on October 26, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
Seems they took 2 Units and sell it as bundle.
Also a bit clock improvement from the X10 chips, they are probably capable of much more.

If you switch them off they will run for a few minutes 15-30% faster. That could be normal but is locked inside the code.

So I think we do have here ‚OC‘ giant X10 bundled as 2 units.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Hehehenky on October 26, 2018, 05:39:42 PM
Interesting but not a buy. Is 7 USD factual? What algo/coin?

https://whattomine.com/asic

Current profitability is $9/day on DGB-Qubit
Those numbers fluctuate quite a bit, so look at the top 5, which are all $7-9/day after electric.

Thx man!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: zeric on October 26, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
Dear Baikal

Perhaps you should update your webpage before you show a picture of a new product and a link to your website where it cannot be found.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: okyanus58 on October 26, 2018, 07:06:51 PM

Baikal authority

Give the new algorithms for the x10 you promised.

baikal BK-G28 by
Your goal is to kill x10



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xs.over on October 26, 2018, 08:58:03 PM
Fuck all ASIC manufacturers.
nowadays mainly only miming hardware manufacturers and hardware resellers earn money in crypto mining  sphere.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: coincalculators.io on October 27, 2018, 12:00:53 AM
https://www.coincalculators.io/hardware/product/?name=baikal-bk-g28

Added hardware.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: grendel25 on October 27, 2018, 02:13:54 AM
Thanks.  Now I know which algorithms to ignore when new coins are released.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: MZ4 on October 27, 2018, 10:43:02 AM
On Asicminervalue the daily profit is around $26/day.
https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28 (https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28) Why is that difference from your calculations for $7/day?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: coincalculators.io on October 27, 2018, 11:18:19 AM
On Asicminervalue the daily profit is around $26/day.
https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28 (https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28) Why is that difference from your calculations for $7/day?

Groestl profit $26/day
https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/20295a45-2e71-462f-82c5-b0b9023877aa.png


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Baikalek on October 27, 2018, 11:53:40 AM
On Asicminervalue the daily profit is around $26/day.
https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28 (https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28) Why is that difference from your calculations for $7/day?

Groestl profit $26/day
https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/20295a45-2e71-462f-82c5-b0b9023877aa.png

But network hashrate is only 3.76 Th/s, its 150 new Baikal. Hashrate goes quickly UP and difficulty too.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: yrk1957 on October 27, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
On Asicminervalue the daily profit is around $26/day.
https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28 (https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28) Why is that difference from your calculations for $7/day?

Groestl profit $26/day
https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/20295a45-2e71-462f-82c5-b0b9023877aa.png

But network hashrate is only 3.76 Th/s, its 150 new Baikal. Hashrate goes quickly UP and difficulty too.

And this is the thing to note. Even if Baikal releases Groestl on X10 it would pretty much make only $4 after a couple of thousand X10 start mining it.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: belaweb2 on October 27, 2018, 02:07:08 PM
Groestl profit will go to 2 USD and less after shipping of 1. Batch... do the math.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: yrk1957 on October 27, 2018, 02:26:59 PM
Groestl profit will go to 2 USD and less after shipping of 1. Batch... do the math.

Math is hard...


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on October 27, 2018, 04:49:34 PM
why not try retail buying on www.akminer.com ?we could provide fast shipping for retail orders

Because of the really high price?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: allnewbie on October 28, 2018, 01:09:33 PM
Can i run the pizero image from G28 on my X10?

I don't think they will let this be a bug (((((


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: not.you on October 28, 2018, 03:02:24 PM
Can i run the pizero image from G28 on my X10?

Wondering this too.

EDIT:  Did you find a link to the G28 firmware?  I can't find one.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: cohotho12 on October 28, 2018, 03:05:02 PM
nice


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: percy_tc on October 28, 2018, 03:29:22 PM
This is very risky, considering previous asic experiences, this is not worth it.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Shorty2520 on October 28, 2018, 07:54:58 PM
Can i run the pizero image from G28 on my X10?

Wondering this too.

EDIT:  Did you find a link to the G28 firmware?  I can't find one.

They won't upload it.



I will buy one and try to extract the Firmware to use them with Giant X10. Regardless if it work or not i will upload it for the other X10 users.

I'm an IT administrator and Hardware enthusiast and did an training as programmer (3 1/2 years). Hope thats the correct translation.

You can help fund my project with ethereum. I will share the infos with the contributors
https://etherscan.io/address/0x6f7de90217083030992773a7ae249b03e9b97ceb


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: pikachuy on October 28, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
This is very risky, considering previous asic experiences, this is not worth it.

Yup, they are probably holding out on Groestl from the X10, so they can get sales for the BK-G28. Once they get enough sales, then they MAYBE release Groestl for the X10 later on. Remember, when they release NIST5 for the X10, it was probably the most profitable for like just like a day or 2, because everyone switch to it. Then it wasn't profitable as other algos anymore. This will be the same fate as Groestl.

Also remember, when first buying X10 when it was released, BTC was near all time high last year around November/December, so don't be expecting high profit returns this time around.

Lastly BK-G28 has all the same algos as X10, so all the algos will be saturated in increased hashrate and difficulties and profits lower for everyone not matter what.

This won't be a smart buy at this time of the market because the efficiency isn't that big of a jump compared to the X10 from Giant+, but then again, there will always be people buying ASIC no matter what anyone says.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: percy_tc on October 29, 2018, 03:37:03 AM
Groestl diff +69% for 1 day  :o


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: devindeysel on October 29, 2018, 07:52:31 AM
I have inquired via Baikal
http://www.baikalminer.com via Contact customer service:
baikal@baikalminer.com on 28 October.

They have updated me for the delivery after 10 days. So then i researched on asicminervalue.com where i found this company called Miner Bros Limited shipping within 48 hrs . I am sharing the url for people looking for single peaces like me. https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/baikal-miner-bk-g28-multi-algorithm-miner (https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/baikal-miner-bk-g28-multi-algorithm-miner)

So now i have purchased the product with cryptominerbros, I will keep you posted once i get delivery on the product in Wahsington USA.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Myxtix on October 29, 2018, 06:57:52 PM
Hello , the coin gain right now is about 20,95 $ (21 GRS/day) before electricity . Do you think it can stay above 10-15 GRS in a few weeks or this is pretty impossible ?  It should be my first investment and I'm thinking about this one.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: rogerthat55 on October 29, 2018, 07:02:16 PM
Hello , the coin gain right now is about 20,95 $ (21 GRS/day) before electricity . Do you think it can stay above 10-15 GRS in a few weeks or this is pretty impossible ?  It should be my first investment and I'm thinking about this one.

Doesn't matter like everyone else is saying. Groestl was around $25/day a few days ago, and now is like $19/day, and by the time everyone gets theirs and plugs them in, down to $2-7, or whatever the average is for the rest.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on October 29, 2018, 09:00:35 PM
150 G28 equal the network hashrate of Groestl. So you can do the math.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: shaninium on October 29, 2018, 09:16:21 PM
Your better off putting 1300$ towards a fpga, much more flexibility and future proof. Groes profits will plummet once this hits the market in numbers.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Myxtix on October 29, 2018, 11:09:23 PM
150 G28 equal the network hashrate of Groestl. So you can do the math.

Actually I'm new to the mining, so I don't know how to do the maths :) But anyhow I would be glad if someone could tell me how to calculate it  ;D

But I understand that this machine will not be that profitable


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: yrk1957 on October 30, 2018, 12:35:41 AM
150 G28 equal the network hashrate of Groestl. So you can do the math.

Actually I'm new to the mining, so I don't know how to do the maths :) But anyhow I would be glad if someone could tell me how to calculate it  ;D

But I understand that this machine will not be that profitable

If 150 G28s equal the Groestl network, then:

If Baikal sells only 150 then you may make $25 per day, assuming all GPUs are kicked off.
If Baikal sells 300, then $12.5 per day
600 = $6.25 per day
1200 = $3.125 per day and so on.

And finally, Baikal will sell thousands of these, and hence you will be lucky to make a $1.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on October 30, 2018, 02:04:53 AM
Actually I'm new to the mining, so I don't know how to do the maths :) But anyhow I would be glad if someone could tell me how to calculate it  ;D

But I understand that this machine will not be that profitable

If you are new to mining, the big question is, how much do you pay for electricity?  ;D


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: nsummy on October 30, 2018, 05:30:23 AM
Actually I'm new to the mining, so I don't know how to do the maths :) But anyhow I would be glad if someone could tell me how to calculate it  ;D

But I understand that this machine will not be that profitable

If you are new to mining, the big question is, how much do you pay for electricity?  ;D

To be honest, that is really only a question you ask yourself if you already have a bunch of hardware.  Unless you can get a screaming deal on a GPU or something, I think you would be hard pressed to find anything for sale that will pay itself off in under 6 months, even with free electricity.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: not.you on October 30, 2018, 11:46:49 AM
...Unless you can get a screaming deal on a GPU or something, I think you would be hard pressed to find anything for sale that will pay itself off in under 6 months, even with free electricity.

Yes it seems like all the miner manufacturers these days price for about a year of mining to make your original investment back.  But a lot can happen in a year: more efficient miners released for the same algorithm, your miner breaks long before the year is up, coin prices crash, etc...  Doesn't seem worth buying anything anymore.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: allnewbie on October 30, 2018, 12:13:36 PM
150 G28 equal the network hashrate of Groestl. So you can do the math.

Actually I'm new to the mining, so I don't know how to do the maths :) But anyhow I would be glad if someone could tell me how to calculate it  ;D

But I understand that this machine will not be that profitable

If 150 G28s equal the Groestl network, then:

If Baikal sells only 150 then you may make $25 per day, assuming all GPUs are kicked off.
If Baikal sells 300, then $12.5 per day
600 = $6.25 per day
1200 = $3.125 per day and so on.

And finally, Baikal will sell thousands of these, and hence you will be lucky to make a $1.
you are right to some extent, but not exactly right in this case.
Groestl profit will slide rapidly with the network difficult climbing up to a position which should be roughly 8 USD right now produced by quibt. and then if baikal keep producing machine, profit will continue reducing but at a much slower pace because at that time other algorithms will join in to share this difficult. so they slide down together happily.
evaluate your investment with quibt profit, for now, looks more workable.



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Truthchanter on October 30, 2018, 01:51:52 PM
Anybody buy any of these? I was considering buying one or two

Seems not likely to make a ton of money, but maybe hit close to ROI but a long time


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: i_like_bits on October 30, 2018, 03:55:05 PM
Definitely a huge gamble. Probably not the most effective use of your money. Purchasing and holding coin would be better. You still need to pay for PSU, power cable, shipping, and customs fees with this unit.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: yrk1957 on October 30, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Definitely a huge gamble. Probably not the most effective use of your money. Purchasing and holding coin would be better. You still need to pay for PSU, power cable, shipping, and customs fees with this unit.

Not even a gamble, it’s literally money down the drain.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: leowonderful on October 30, 2018, 07:52:59 PM
I'm not going to buy any of these machines- numbers aren't that impressive, and profitability at this moment isn't exactly conducive for this thing to break even, much less make you profit within a year. As others have said, the profitability at this point in time seems pretty high, but difficulty corrections once everyone gets their hands on these miners will drop profitability down quite a bit.

I have inquired via Baikal
http://www.baikalminer.com via Contact customer service:
baikal@baikalminer.com on 28 October.

They have updated me for the delivery after 10 days. So then i researched on asicminervalue.com where i found this company called Miner Bros Limited shipping within 48 hrs . I am sharing the url for people looking for single peaces like me. https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/baikal-miner-bk-g28-multi-algorithm-miner (https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/baikal-miner-bk-g28-multi-algorithm-miner)

So now i have purchased the product with cryptominerbros, I will keep you posted once i get delivery on the product in Wahsington USA.
Everyone's going to get the miner at the same time, including retailers, and it just doesn't add up that this new miner selling site happens to have these units in stock. Additionally, they only accept non-reversible payment methods (bank transfer or crypto), so you have no chance of getting your money back if this site just takes your money, and there's already a thread against the site here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4832962.0) The account that made this post is also brand-new, so there's a high chance that this account was made for the sole purpose of promoting this most likely scam site.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xs.over on October 30, 2018, 09:39:45 PM
nowadays mainly only miming hardware manufacturers and hardware resellers earn money in crypto mining  sphere.

At current price GRS network can handle only about 450 ASICs with $8 daily rewards. No doubt that fckng ASIC manufacturer would want to sell few thousands of this garbage


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: kineda on October 30, 2018, 09:53:11 PM
Would be interested in the sgminer.bin once someone gets one of the BK-G28s. 


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: elmond on October 31, 2018, 07:12:22 AM
Would be interested in the sgminer.bin once someone gets one of the BK-G28s.  

you want downgrade x10? from the share photos, it's obvious the asic chip wont be same as x10.

on the miner page which shows 96 chip on board, total 7 hash board (14 pcie power), running clock 300MHz, Hashrate 4.055 (per board) on x11

x10: 3.33 / 64 = 0.0521 hashrate per asic chip
G28: 4 / 96 = 0.0417 hashrate per asic chip



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: DehaMine on October 31, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
 
  Baikal must make an announcement for the owner of Baikal X10 to calm them down. How come to realise new miner while not compliying their word for the new 2 algorithm for X10?
  It is not a trade, it is just an abuse of customer.  >:(


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: griffoncoin on October 31, 2018, 08:58:41 PM

  Baikal must make an announcement for the owner of Baikal X10 to calm them down. How come to realise new miner while not compliying their word for the new 2 algorithm for X10?
  It is not a trade, it is just an abuse of customer.  >:(


2 new algorithm were released a while ago .. these were Nist5, X11Gost


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: brunospino on October 31, 2018, 09:45:40 PM
I'm not going to buy any of these machines- numbers aren't that impressive, and profitability at this moment isn't exactly conducive for this thing to break even, much less make you profit within a year. As others have said, the profitability at this point in time seems pretty high, but difficulty corrections once everyone gets their hands on these miners will drop profitability down quite a bit.

I have inquired via Baikal
http://www.baikalminer.com via Contact customer service:
baikal@baikalminer.com on 28 October.

They have updated me for the delivery after 10 days. So then i researched on asicminervalue.com where i found this company called Miner Bros Limited shipping within 48 hrs . I am sharing the url for people looking for single peaces like me. https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/baikal-miner-bk-g28-multi-algorithm-miner (https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/baikal-miner-bk-g28-multi-algorithm-miner)

So now i have purchased the product with cryptominerbros, I will keep you posted once i get delivery on the product in Wahsington USA.
Everyone's going to get the miner at the same time, including retailers, and it just doesn't add up that this new miner selling site happens to have these units in stock. Additionally, they only accept non-reversible payment methods (bank transfer or crypto), so you have no chance of getting your money back if this site just takes your money, and there's already a thread against the site here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4832962.0) The account that made this post is also brand-new, so there's a high chance that this account was made for the sole purpose of promoting this most likely scam site.


The only way to avoid scams and maximize the profit is to buy it in SZ warehouse/reseller, test the machine, give the money and bring it to the farm. No shitting, no shipping, no duty and start mining in 24/48 hours.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: kineda on November 01, 2018, 11:53:45 AM
looks like 2 are already on zpool running same sgminer release as the X10.

https://imgur.com/ulQZcWS



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: brunospino on November 01, 2018, 12:09:25 PM
looks like 2 are already on zpool running same sgminer release as the X10.

https://imgur.com/ulQZcWS



More than 2 are running. I could pick up one right now and turn it on, considering to do it....but I can buy one Z9 adding a bit or almost 3 Z9 Mini.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: aga0685 on November 01, 2018, 01:01:29 PM
Are you here Baikal??? I have a question for you.....
I think that if you are a serius company is possible that you respond to this question...
You always tell that Baikal X10 will be updated with more algo.... is possibile that this will be true or you finish the develop of this miner?
New algo of G28 are compatible of X10?
Only an answer.... Yes or No????? is simply..........


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 01, 2018, 01:33:19 PM
My guess: After selling a lot of G28 and the profit of groestl drops, they will release groestl for X10.
Imagine they would have done this now or 1-2 weeks ago. Then the X10 would have diminished the groestl profit and the G28 would not have this high profit rating on several sites. This is of course only for the less informed buyer a thing. But I think a lot of buyers just see the numbers and dont check network hashrates and stuff. If you buy, calculate with the Qubit/Quark/Skein/X11gost profits.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: not.you on November 01, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
My guess: After selling a lot of G28 and the profit of groestl drops, they will release groestl for X10.

Concur.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: nadeaup on November 01, 2018, 02:37:50 PM
My BK-G28 arrived yesterday. It was a mess! 3 boards were unplugged and had bent pins on the daughterboard which means it was never QA'd. Luckily,I took it apart bent the pins back without them breaking and after bending out the fan grills out so they stopped hitting the fans.... I got it mining!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: I-Love-BTCD on November 01, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Baikal...are devs from Russia?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: juninhodecio on November 01, 2018, 03:26:55 PM
My BK-G28 arrived yesterday. It was a mess! 3 boards were unplugged and had bent pins on the daughterboard which means it was never QA'd. Luckily,I took it apart bent the pins back without them breaking and after bending out the fan grills out so they stopped hitting the fans.... I got it mining!

Nice ! Extract the firmware for us.



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Dash2017 on November 01, 2018, 04:29:36 PM
yes. please extract the Firmware for us, THX


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: kineda on November 01, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
Would be great if you could also ssh into the box as baikal and root and type history and post that here.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xs.over on November 01, 2018, 05:59:00 PM
Baikal...are devs from Russia?
China


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Myxtix on November 01, 2018, 06:32:56 PM
...Unless you can get a screaming deal on a GPU or something, I think you would be hard pressed to find anything for sale that will pay itself off in under 6 months, even with free electricity.

Yes it seems like all the miner manufacturers these days price for about a year of mining to make your original investment back.  But a lot can happen in a year: more efficient miners released for the same algorithm, your miner breaks long before the year is up, coin prices crash, etc...  Doesn't seem worth buying anything anymore.

I think like you do, after all maybe buying mining is not that useful.

Thank you everyone for your answers  :)


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: nadeaup on November 01, 2018, 09:12:49 PM
I'll pull the firmware and try it out in my BK-X10 in the next day or 2..


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Dash2017 on November 01, 2018, 09:29:20 PM
I'll pull the firmware and try it out in my BK-X10 in the next day or 2..

would be great if you could post the firmware here to download, my network technician can then look at it and test whether it is accordingly adaptable to the X10, this possibility I would have


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: customarea001 on November 02, 2018, 12:32:26 PM
I'll pull the firmware and try it out in my BK-X10 in the next day or 2..

would be great if you could post the firmware here to download, my network technician can then look at it and test whether it is accordingly adaptable to the X10, this possibility I would have

Do you have any link we can download?


Title: Some Advice for BK-G28 Buyers.....
Post by: iggypi on November 02, 2018, 01:36:53 PM

If you guys order some, don't forget to order 6pin PCI-E splitter cable, this time, Baikal delivers not cables at all :(

And you need to know there are 14 6pin molex connectors on the BK-G28, so order plenty of this splitter cables.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: baikal on November 03, 2018, 08:03:53 AM
Hello, Thanks for the support on Baikal miner.

BK-G28 will need total 14 PCI-E plugs and it is recommended that all 14 connectors connected, but if are not able to get enough plug, make it at least 9 connectors plugged. see below:
There is no PCI-E cable included in the box, kindly note this.

"2 hash boards, with fan cable attached, plug two connectors,  other 5 hash boards can plug just one connector“

https://i.imgur.com/qpZcwkwl.png


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 03, 2018, 02:11:41 PM
Guys, jsut for you to know: Shipping is withing 10 (!!!) days after payment received from baikal. Thats bad....


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: aga0685 on November 03, 2018, 05:45:29 PM
Guys, jsut for you to know: Shipping is withing 10 (!!!) days after payment received from baikal. Thats bad....
And now the profit with Groestl algo is 8.38 $/day....... i think that ROI of this G28 that will arrive now is very difficult/impossibile..... .........


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 03, 2018, 10:55:49 PM
Guys, jsut for you to know: Shipping is withing 10 (!!!) days after payment received from baikal. Thats bad....
And now the profit with Groestl algo is 8.38 $/day....... i think that ROI of this G28 that will arrive now is very difficult/impossibile..... .........

Anyone with a little knowledge should have seen that this would happen within days and should not have calculated with the big initial Groestl profits.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: yrk1957 on November 04, 2018, 12:59:08 AM
Guys, jsut for you to know: Shipping is withing 10 (!!!) days after payment received from baikal. Thats bad....
And now the profit with Groestl algo is 8.38 $/day....... i think that ROI of this G28 that will arrive now is very difficult/impossibile..... .........

Anyone with a little knowledge should have seen that this would happen within days and should not have calculated with the big initial Groestl profits.

...and its easy to infer that releasing Groestl on X10 would have been useless given so many X10's out there.

Baikal tried to  make the best of the situation, just released it on G28 to make a quick buck, nothing more. But that trick is over now.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Meteorite777 on November 06, 2018, 03:26:04 PM
I got my BK-G28 delivered yesterday. I have it up and running on Skein but am only getting 12 GH/s poolside instead of 14 GH/s advertised; tried two different pools so far.

Baikal Miner Web UI is useless for checking actual hash rate and it just seems to display a dummy number per card no matter what. Case in point: one of the hash-boards on my BK-X10 is seemingly dead 2 months after ordering, and the web UI still shows 1.746 Gh/s for the board and 3 boards for 5.238 Gh/s total; just that it shows 0 accepted shares on the faulty board. Pool-side shows around 3 GH/s because of the broken board despite that Baikal Web UI shows 5.238 GH/s

It seems BK-G28 behaves similarly and shows the hardcoded advertised speed of 2.028 Gh/s per board for 14.19Gh/s total no matter what. Either that; or my broken board on my BK-X10 IS still hashing at 1.76 GH/s and it's reporting correctly and just for some reason is getting no shares.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 06, 2018, 05:49:36 PM
The hashrate report is correct, it is generating that number of hashes, but there is damage or other problems preventing valid shares.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: elmond on November 07, 2018, 06:45:03 AM
Hello, Thanks for the support on Baikal miner.

BK-G28 will need total 14 PCI-E plugs and it is recommended that all 14 connectors connected, but if are not able to get enough plug, make it at least 9 connectors plugged. see below:
There is no PCI-E cable included in the box, kindly note this.

"2 hash boards, with fan cable attached, plug two connectors,  other 5 hash boards can plug just one connector“

https://i.imgur.com/qpZcwkwl.png


interesting, do this cheat also apply to baikal x10


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 07, 2018, 05:19:30 PM
It's not a cheat.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 08, 2018, 12:09:10 AM
Be careful though on the power intensive algos. You will draw more current from one connector. If you use your PSU cable without splitter, that should be fine on low power algos. But if you e.g. mine X11 and, even worse, connect one splitter from a 6pin PSU cable to two boards, this wont be a good idea.

And just remember again: Ratinds: 8pin connector 150w, 6pin connector 75w.
[edit]


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: percy_tc on November 08, 2018, 09:08:39 AM
you have to attach all 14 cables, if you want to prevent burned circuit for x11 algo. each of them is certified for 75W, do the math.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 08, 2018, 02:56:50 PM
you have to attach all 14 cables, if you want to prevent burned circuit for x11 algo. each of them is certified for 75W, do the math.
Yeah, thats what i mean. I edited my sentence, since it could be misunderstood.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on November 08, 2018, 07:58:27 PM
Let me know if anyone wants these miners.

I am selling some to those who do not want to order direct


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 09, 2018, 01:18:27 AM
You wanna dump the firmware for me? =)


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: elmond on November 09, 2018, 03:15:32 AM
Be careful though on the power intensive algos. You will draw more current from one connector. If you use your PSU cable without splitter, that should be fine on low power algos. But if you e.g. mine X11 and, even worse, connect one splitter from a 6pin PSU cable to two boards, this wont be a good idea.

And just remember again: Ratinds: 8pin connector 150w, 6pin connector 75w.
[edit]

the 75/100 watt concept only used for gpu because it's utilize the sense pin, i don't think miner use that.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: elmond on November 09, 2018, 03:27:35 AM
you have to attach all 14 cables, if you want to prevent burned circuit for x11 algo. each of them is certified for 75W, do the math.

funny 2 x 75W = 150W, 7 x 150W = 1050W, how do you think even X11 algo is safe.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 09, 2018, 08:38:36 AM
Be careful though on the power intensive algos. You will draw more current from one connector. If you use your PSU cable without splitter, that should be fine on low power algos. But if you e.g. mine X11 and, even worse, connect one splitter from a 6pin PSU cable to two boards, this wont be a good idea.

And just remember again: Ratinds: 8pin connector 150w, 6pin connector 75w.
[edit]

the 75/100 watt concept only used for gpu because it's utilize the sense pin, i don't think miner use that.

It has nothing to do with being for GPU, the two extra pins are ground.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: iggypi on November 09, 2018, 10:26:47 PM
I got my BK-G28 delivered yesterday. I have it up and running on Skein but am only getting 12 GH/s poolside instead of 14 GH/s advertised; tried two different pools so far.

Baikal Miner Web UI is useless for checking actual hash rate and it just seems to display a dummy number per card no matter what. Case in point: one of the hash-boards on my BK-X10 is seemingly dead 2 months after ordering, and the web UI still shows 1.746 Gh/s for the board and 3 boards for 5.238 Gh/s total; just that it shows 0 accepted shares on the faulty board. Pool-side shows around 3 GH/s because of the broken board despite that Baikal Web UI shows 5.238 GH/s

It seems BK-G28 behaves similarly and shows the hardcoded advertised speed of 2.028 Gh/s per board for 14.19Gh/s total no matter what. Either that; or my broken board on my BK-X10 IS still hashing at 1.76 GH/s and it's reporting correctly and just for some reason is getting no shares.
had the same problem mining digibyte over myriad groestl and I solved it by switch from suprnova and blocksfactory where always hash rate sometime vanishes to mining hub, pretty steady hashrate since then.




Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on November 10, 2018, 02:11:28 AM
I have the same problem about false hashrate.

Skein, advertise 14,19 GH/s but :
- suprnova : hashrate at around 12GH and 20% invalide share, those invalid shares show in Baikal UI too
- mining pool hub : hashrate average on 1 H between 11GH and 12GH, 12% invalid share on mining pool Dashboard and 0% invalid on baikal UI


Myr Groest : exactly same problem on suprnova (Verge).


I ll do more tests.

Nota : tests done with at least 5 x G28 unit at the same time


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: AtlasMiner on November 10, 2018, 04:40:06 AM
Do you know how to configure miner for zpool and auto algorithm switching? Could never get my BK-X10 working correctly on Zpool so I am wondering if the BK-G28 will have problems...


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: AtlasMiner on November 10, 2018, 04:58:03 AM
I'll pull the firmware and try it out in my BK-X10 in the next day or 2..

Doesn't work. You will destroy you PI unit.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on November 10, 2018, 01:29:50 PM
Ok to answer to myself :

Invalid shares was the result of either a faulty switch or IP conflict (all my switches being Netgear prosafe). Strange thing, if i add a new cpl plug i have the same colficting problem than whith the supposedly faulty switch …

In regards to Hashrate :
suprnova skein : its more around 13GH/s on average (calculated 2 hours)
zpool skein : i have the same result betwee 12,5 to 13,5 GH (2h with 5 x G28)

So far suprnova payout > by 20% of Zpool skein (paid in DGB), calcultaed on 24h with 5 G28 (not the one i used for tests so with stable hashrate). Luck difference being 5% in advantage to suprnova


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: iggypi on November 10, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
has anyone managed to setup the fan speed over the web interface ?
I set it to 50% but it stays at loud as it was before, rpm doesn't change.
100% is ok for x11, but for Myr Groest and skein its not really necessary.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on November 12, 2018, 03:10:51 PM
The option is baikal-fan
For Skein i set 10% and it remains below 30 degrees. It is still a little loud.
50% and 100% are almost as loud so i think thats why you hear no difference.

The main problem i have is the average hashrate reported on suprnova for G28 is 20% less than it should be (with high fluctuations it can goes from -40% to -10% averaged on 5 units). Whereas with X10 still on suprnova the average hashrate is 100% as advertised (fluctuations are small 5% with 5 units). this is for skein algo.
Anyone had the same problem ?




Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: allnewbie on November 14, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
The option is baikal-fan
For Skein i set 10% and it remains below 30 degrees. It is still a little loud.
50% and 100% are almost as loud so i think thats why you hear no difference.

The main problem i have is the average hashrate reported on suprnova for G28 is 20% less than it should be (with high fluctuations it can goes from -40% to -10% averaged on 5 units). Whereas with X10 still on suprnova the average hashrate is 100% as advertised (fluctuations are small 5% with 5 units). this is for skein algo.
Anyone had the same problem ?



waiting my machine. its on the road. does other algorithm act same?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: cuong_cash on November 15, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
The option is baikal-fan
For Skein i set 10% and it remains below 30 degrees. It is still a little loud.
50% and 100% are almost as loud so i think thats why you hear no difference.

The main problem i have is the average hashrate reported on suprnova for G28 is 20% less than it should be (with high fluctuations it can goes from -40% to -10% averaged on 5 units). Whereas with X10 still on suprnova the average hashrate is 100% as advertised (fluctuations are small 5% with 5 units). this is for skein algo.
Anyone had the same problem ?




my G28 mine groesltcoin in miningpoolhub with hashrate 27GH


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on November 15, 2018, 01:51:24 PM
Yes Groestl algo i have no problem.
Skein algo tested on suprnova, miningpoolhub and now zpool have all the same problems : hashrate betwenn -30% and -10%. Average on 12h on any of these pools is 11,8GH instead of 14GH


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 16, 2018, 01:23:48 AM
Got mine now.
Assembly quality really poor. Three hasboards of three different miners were put in not straight. They were bent and a capacitor broke. I removed that hasboard so that the miner works with one hashboard less.
Otherwise like the BK-X.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: cuong_cash on November 16, 2018, 02:18:42 AM
Yes Groestl algo i have no problem.
Skein algo tested on suprnova, miningpoolhub and now zpool have all the same problems : hashrate betwenn -30% and -10%. Average on 12h on any of these pools is 11,8GH instead of 14GH
i think problem is the network hashrate on the g28 configurations web page can view the hashrate is 14GH with skein algo and the orther with the same with specifications


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on November 16, 2018, 01:06:50 PM
I really think 14GH is the capacity of G28 skein.
But there s Something wrong the "dacc" is around 80 to 90% on the G28 with difficulty managed by suprnova. This is too low, in comparison the X10 on same pool is around 99% explaining X10 is at nominal hashrate.

I tried to force difficulty on suprnova skein for the G28, but with no luck so far the best i achived is an average 12,8 GH/s which is still far from 14GH.

My guess is it is pool related. Though i contacted them twice by their support form and on twitter and NO answer since 48H.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: VoskCoin on November 16, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 16, 2018, 06:56:21 PM
Vosk, what are the symptoms of the crash - does the miner lock up entirely, or does it just stop hashing (either on one board or all) ?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: acidus77 on November 16, 2018, 09:53:10 PM
I have issue with new g28 that only one board is getting shares, middle one, all other boards are hashing (asics dashboard) but pool hashrate only from that one middle board. Tried other pools and algos but problem is same.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: grendel25 on November 16, 2018, 10:15:34 PM
Just been reading through this thread and goodness does it sound dreadful.  I'm still looking for a  good opportunity to get in on an ASIC but so far they all seem so risky.

Guess I'll have to be patient and watch for now.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 17, 2018, 05:16:45 AM
Temps?
My experiences are, Baikals tend to hang and crash if temp is over 55°C. Depending on Algo.

anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 17, 2018, 06:38:19 AM
Just been reading through this thread and goodness does it sound dreadful.  I'm still looking for a  good opportunity to get in on an ASIC but so far they all seem so risky.

Guess I'll have to be patient and watch for now.

How do you have a legendary account and are not sure on asics? Not a troll, really asking.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: iwouldifiwereyou on November 17, 2018, 09:03:28 AM
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?

how awesome Vosk! I have watched every video you've made, you're awesome! I just got an X10 and was trying to get the other algos loaded, or the script to switch between most profitable but i can't make any sense of it. I took the machine apart, and looked at the Sd card and it only has 3 files on it, can I just replace the .bin file with the updates I've seen? It's only a few kilobytes, but so are the replacements. 
Like this one. GX10_V16_20171111 (From X10 v1.1 Image) - Copy.bin

can I just replace the script.bin file on the SD card? The card only has like 60 megabytes space, so it can't take the full image I've seen thats like 4 gig. I guess I'm not comprehending how this miner works at all. Any help anyone? I'll give you teamviewer access if you would :)


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 17, 2018, 09:19:20 PM
You would need to load the firmware onto the card in full, it is larger than 60 MB but Windows won't show the partitions on the card. Baikal has instructions for upgrading the firmware on their site which you can reference.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Meteorite777 on November 18, 2018, 06:08:41 AM
I really think 14GH is the capacity of G28 skein.
But there s Something wrong the "dacc" is around 80 to 90% on the G28 with difficulty managed by suprnova. This is too low, in comparison the X10 on same pool is around 99% explaining X10 is at nominal hashrate.

I tried to force difficulty on suprnova skein for the G28, but with no luck so far the best i achived is an average 12,8 GH/s which is still far from 14GH.

My guess is it is pool related. Though i contacted them twice by their support form and on twitter and NO answer since 48H.


I have a similar experience, pools are reporting 10-20% less hashrate than advertised. Skein bounced between 11-14 Gh with an average around 12.5-13 I'd say.  Myr-Gr was similar and averaged around 25-26 Gh.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Tarlatata on November 22, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
Vosk, what are the symptoms of the crash - does the miner lock up entirely, or does it just stop hashing (either on one board or all) ?
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?

I have 15 G-28 and they randomly crash all the time. I cannot spend a day without having to manually unpower and power back at LEAST 6 unit as they do not cycle themselve upon a crash.

http://prntscr.com/llk8fi
http://prntscr.com/llk8ru
http://prntscr.com/llk90p

Baikal skype support has no idea what's up.

Oh, as some other said, got multiple board that were not in the right slot and bent. 1 unit wouldn't power up at all because one of the board was missing a capacitance and now only run with 6 instead of 7 board.

Seriously, never again will I purchase from Baikal unless they do something about this.



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: KaydenC on November 22, 2018, 12:12:08 PM
I also have the same issue of multiple crash per day on my Giant X (where you cant even access ip and have to physically restart). Ended up buying a PDU that daily power cycles them.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on November 22, 2018, 01:18:31 PM
I confirm the issue about assembly on 16 total G28 :
- multiple boards are bent, happily with no consequence for me
- needed to unmount and correctly mount fans because of their power cable being hit  :o
- due to transport, needed to replug the card linking the 7 boards, but on very few units, no damaged pins, using DHL. On the baikal X with FEDEX it was just horrible, bent pin on unmounted board ...


On skein or myr gr i dont have the crashing issue.


But on both on suprnova, zpool, miningpoolhub, for either DGB or XVG : i m missing 10% of rewards because i m missing 10% of hasrate compared to nominal 14 / 28. Whereas with BAIKAL X10 i m at 100% reward compared to nominal hashrate.

Those 10% are confirmed by miner stats : Dacc is around 89 90% but difficulty rejecty is only 0.1 or 0.2% ... where goes those 10 % ... neither the pool support nor baikal had an anwser ...





Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: allnewbie on November 27, 2018, 07:52:05 AM
One of my miner can not access to web page somehow, but I see from pool is hashing actually... they told me to change orange pi, but I don't dare to do since its still mining...



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: citronick on November 27, 2018, 03:50:17 PM
I also have the same issue of multiple crash per day on my Giant X (where you cant even access ip and have to physically restart). Ended up buying a PDU that daily power cycles them.

Hi Kayden - can you send me details/brand/model of this PDU. Thanks


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on November 27, 2018, 03:57:28 PM
Any managed PDU will work, check APC, Tripplite, Cyberpower, Raritan for options. There are interfaces to toggle power via HTTP API or SNMP.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on November 28, 2018, 02:38:25 PM
If you can not access your Baikals, which happened once for me in several months with several units, you should reflash the SD card. That was the only thing that fixed that problem for me on a BKX once.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on December 01, 2018, 02:46:13 AM
Guys, about DGB next algorithm to be Asic resistant (deployment wasannounced in january if i m right, after they said they tested it in november), do we know if they are targeting all Baikal DGB Algos ?
Also do we know if other coins like XVG have said anything about going the same way as DGB ?

Sorry to ask here but cant find any reliable information


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: elmond on December 03, 2018, 02:02:14 AM
Guys, about DGB next algorithm to be Asic resistant (deployment wasannounced in january if i m right, after they said they tested it in november), do we know if they are targeting all Baikal DGB Algos ?
Also do we know if other coins like XVG have said anything about going the same way as DGB ?

Sorry to ask here but cant find any reliable information


i don't think DGB will doing that for now since it's a bearish market.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: benjamoyne on December 03, 2018, 06:09:16 AM
Guys, about DGB next algorithm to be Asic resistant (deployment wasannounced in january if i m right, after they said they tested it in november), do we know if they are targeting all Baikal DGB Algos ?
Also do we know if other coins like XVG have said anything about going the same way as DGB ?

Sorry to ask here but cant find any reliable information


The Odocrypt algo will be swapped out for one other algo only.

This is currently being tested and bear market or not, will be rolled out when its ready.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on December 10, 2018, 12:06:28 AM
Did anyone also notice, that 1-2 hashboards in each G28 tend to get several (5-6) degrees C hotter than the others? Any known reason for that?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on December 10, 2018, 03:56:53 AM
Probably just like any other box chassis miner, the board is receiving reduced airflow compared to the others. This can happen on the outside boards or possibly on the inside boards, depending on whether it's airflow (outside) or if proximity to other boards (inside)


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on December 10, 2018, 08:38:59 PM
Probably just like any other box chassis miner, the board is receiving reduced airflow compared to the others. This can happen on the outside boards or possibly on the inside boards, depending on whether it's airflow (outside) or if proximity to other boards (inside)

I flipped them upright (standing on the side, controlboard on top), moved the PSUs one level higher instead of besides them and... 7-12 ° C lower temps :D


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: ilmaz on December 17, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
hi guys can you help me to find newst frimware for baikal g28?
i cant find it in baikal's site


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on December 17, 2018, 09:11:50 PM
selling these for cheaper than the manufacturer with immediate shipping


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: flexmeister on December 24, 2018, 01:00:08 AM
Hi. Anyone know where to find the firmware image for these?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: alucard20724 on December 24, 2018, 08:38:34 AM
selling these for cheaper than the manufacturer with immediate shipping

and how much is that?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: flexmeister on December 24, 2018, 09:36:37 AM
Did you get your issue sorted out? I find having them on one switch was causing issues

Those 10% are confirmed by miner stats : Dacc is around 89 90% but difficulty rejecty is only 0.1 or 0.2% ... where goes those 10 % ... neither the pool support nor baikal had an anwser ...


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: flexmeister on December 25, 2018, 02:16:27 AM
Anyone that has quite a few G28s, PM me for an opportunity to make much more profit per miner


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on December 25, 2018, 06:43:50 AM
I have 5 in stock cheaper than manufacturer

1100usd each including shipping and shipped RIGHT AWAY!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Baikalek on December 25, 2018, 06:59:13 AM
I have 5 in stock cheaper than manufacturer

1100usd each including shipping and shipped RIGHT AWAY!
Please and shipping from?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on December 26, 2018, 12:18:30 AM
I have 5 in stock cheaper than manufacturer

1100usd each including shipping and shipped RIGHT AWAY!
Please and shipping from?

shipping from NZ

I can ship right away


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: flexmeister on December 27, 2018, 04:02:03 AM
Greetings,

After about a month of trial and error every day have finally managed to get the BK28 to mine MBC.

To get it working set up your config for a MBC wallet and password c=MBC and algorithm groestl on pool url "stratum+tcp://pool.totallyawesome.party:5333"

Currently profitability is around $15. The only catch is you have to use the included mining pool which has a 20% fee for all the hard work that went into this. So profits will be $12 compared to the $3 currently for Groestl.

Instructions:

Log into B28.
sudo wget http://pool.totallyawesome.party/mbc.tar.gz
sudo tar -xzvf mbc.tar.gz
sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &

This will close any currently running sgminer instances and re-launch a new instance that will be able to mine MBC.

Open up the normal miner dashboard and it will show that it is hashing Groestl on the mentioned pool. Verify stats at pool.totallyawesome.party

Have fun!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on December 28, 2018, 01:07:19 AM
Greetings,

After about a month of trial and error every day have finally managed to get the BK28 to mine MBC....

Handle with caution. I can not recognize any need to flash a mod to mine groestl (MBC). I also do not see some kind of legit mod inside the archive.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: whitefire990 on December 28, 2018, 02:36:18 AM
Microbitcoin uses diamond-groestl, not groestl.  The merkle root calculation is different than groestl.  Therefore, the sgminer firmware needs to be changed to mine it, even if the hash function is the same as groestl.



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on December 28, 2018, 08:44:07 PM
Hi,

I still have the same issue. Some are on one switch shared with Baikal-X (those ones, the Baikal X, runs at 99,9% Dacc).
Some others are on another switch and are the only one sharing that switch.


In both case they still are at around 90% Dacc.

What would you suggest that i test ? (and thanks a lot for your help !)

Did you get your issue sorted out? I find having them on one switch was causing issues

Those 10% are confirmed by miner stats : Dacc is around 89 90% but difficulty rejecty is only 0.1 or 0.2% ... where goes those 10 % ... neither the pool support nor baikal had an anwser ...


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on December 28, 2018, 10:42:57 PM
That's just normal for these units, many people report the same. A fix is not yet known.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on December 29, 2018, 12:58:25 AM
Microbitcoin uses diamond-groestl, not groestl.  The merkle root calculation is different than groestl.  Therefore, the sgminer firmware needs to be changed to mine it, even if the hash function is the same as groestl.

Hi whitefire.
can you approve the provided modification?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: crypto_han on December 31, 2018, 03:19:29 AM
I lost all network connection to the miner by trying to set static IP's through SSH  8) Anyone know how I can directly plug into the unit and boot up Linux?
 
Also, anyone have an updated firmware for the BK-28? Would be very much appreciated :)


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: flexmeister on December 31, 2018, 08:32:53 AM
Think you'll need to reflash the SD card with the original G28 image

I lost all network connection to the miner by trying to set static IP's through SSH  8) Anyone know how I can directly plug into the unit and boot up Linux?
 
Also, anyone have an updated firmware for the BK-28? Would be very much appreciated :)


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Meteorite777 on January 02, 2019, 10:52:52 PM
Vosk, what are the symptoms of the crash - does the miner lock up entirely, or does it just stop hashing (either on one board or all) ?
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?

I have 15 G-28 and they randomly crash all the time. I cannot spend a day without having to manually unpower and power back at LEAST 6 unit as they do not cycle themselve upon a crash.

http://prntscr.com/llk8fi
http://prntscr.com/llk8ru
http://prntscr.com/llk90p

Baikal skype support has no idea what's up.

Oh, as some other said, got multiple board that were not in the right slot and bent. 1 unit wouldn't power up at all because one of the board was missing a capacitance and now only run with 6 instead of 7 board.

Seriously, never again will I purchase from Baikal unless they do something about this.



Has anyone found a fix for this? Two of my three G-28's crash atleast everyday while one of them seem to be able to go for a week or so. I am forced to power cycle them to get them to hash again, but about 50% of the time of when power cycling them they fail to boot up correctly and will not hash. This forces me to power cycle each machine sometimes multiple times in a row.

My solution to this was to put them on a switched PDU and/or smart outlets on a schedule to cycle every few hours; however half of the scheduled resets result in a non-hashing machine until the next scheduled reset (which is every 2-4 hours currently, I will have to adjust for more frequent resets however it seems they will still only correctly cycle about half the time.)

At this rate; since about 50% of my power cycles result in a non-functioning machine, the BK-G28's are effectively only hashing 50% of the time. This is catastrophic.

Anyone else with similar experiences?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Iomgui on January 02, 2019, 11:16:33 PM
Vosk, what are the symptoms of the crash - does the miner lock up entirely, or does it just stop hashing (either on one board or all) ?
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?

I have 15 G-28 and they randomly crash all the time. I cannot spend a day without having to manually unpower and power back at LEAST 6 unit as they do not cycle themselve upon a crash.

http://prntscr.com/llk8fi
http://prntscr.com/llk8ru
http://prntscr.com/llk90p

Baikal skype support has no idea what's up.

Oh, as some other said, got multiple board that were not in the right slot and bent. 1 unit wouldn't power up at all because one of the board was missing a capacitance and now only run with 6 instead of 7 board.

Seriously, never again will I purchase from Baikal unless they do something about this.



Has anyone found a fix for this? Two of my three G-28's crash atleast everyday while one of them seem to be able to go for a week or so. I am forced to power cycle them to get them to hash again, but about 50% of the time of when power cycling them they fail to boot up correctly and will not hash. This forces me to power cycle each machine sometimes multiple times in a row.

My solution to this was to put them on a switched PDU and/or smart outlets on a schedule to cycle every few hours; however half of the scheduled resets result in a non-hashing machine until the next scheduled reset (which is every 2-4 hours currently, I will have to adjust for more frequent resets however it seems they will still only correctly cycle about half the time.)

At this rate; since about 50% of my power cycles result in a non-functioning machine, the BK-G28's are effectively only hashing 50% of the time. This is catastrophic.

Anyone else with similar experiences?
First, you want to make sur that each board are well pluged to the uniting board, and then that the uniting board is well plugged with the orange Pi. It is the main cause of instability. Make sur to do this with G28 unplugged (not powered).

From my experience, when the previous was guaranteed ok, i had similar problems but with only with giant+ and baikal X, and it appears the first cause was the ethernert cable (replaced with better quality), or sd card neeeding reinstall (reformat or use a new sd card), or the orange pi needed to be swapped for a brand new one.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: tblock3 on January 06, 2019, 02:44:04 PM
Log into B28.
sudo wget http://pool.totallyawesome.party/mbc.tar.gz
sudo tar -xzvf mbc.tar.gz
sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &
Thank you for the update.

It is not working for me. ( sgminer 5.6.6-l) I can set "stratum+tcp://pool.totallyawesome.party:5333" as pool, algo groestl, user = wallet, pw = "c=MBC". Of course this leads to 100% rejected shares on a stock miner.

but running "sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &" makes no difference for me. task is restarting ( you are kicked out of screen ) and you can reconnect after 5 seconds. but still only rejected shares.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on January 07, 2019, 02:32:44 AM
selling these for 1000usd each including shipping


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: MinerClaudiu on January 09, 2019, 01:44:07 PM
I lost all network connection to the miner by trying to set static IP's through SSH  8) Anyone know how I can directly plug into the unit and boot up Linux?
 
Also, anyone have an updated firmware for the BK-28? Would be very much appreciated :)
Hi,
I've also get this issue, but after a power_off-1min wait-power_on, it started with new IP.
I've used this tutorial, hope it helps: http://www.bilder.lallax.de/staticIP.pdf


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: eXtremal on January 09, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
I lost all network connection to the miner by trying to set static IP's through SSH  8) Anyone know how I can directly plug into the unit and boot up Linux?
 
Also, anyone have an updated firmware for the BK-28? Would be very much appreciated :)
maybe you did a little bit of pain when configuring your connection, as well as you pay more attention and try again and slightly change so that all connection problems can be connected properly


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: sukitars on January 17, 2019, 07:30:44 PM
Log into B28.
sudo wget http://pool.totallyawesome.party/mbc.tar.gz
sudo tar -xzvf mbc.tar.gz
sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &
Thank you for the update.

It is not working for me. ( sgminer 5.6.6-l) I can set "stratum+tcp://pool.totallyawesome.party:5333" as pool, algo groestl, user = wallet, pw = "c=MBC". Of course this leads to 100% rejected shares on a stock miner.

but running "sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &" makes no difference for me. task is restarting ( you are kicked out of screen ) and you can reconnect after 5 seconds. but still only rejected shares.
Same here. I get all rejects. I changed the difficult to 40*28Gh, but no accepted blocks. Any feedback I appreciate.
Thanks!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: flexmeister on January 17, 2019, 09:45:40 PM
Hey mate, I've noticed it only works if you only have a single pool configured

here's a new process that will allow the miner to auto start

cd /opt/scripta/bin/
sudo wget http://pool.totallyawesome.party/sgminermbc.tar.gz
sudo killall sgminer
sudo cp -n sgminer sgminer_BAK
sudo mv sgminer sgminer_ORG
sudo tar -xzvf sgminermbc.tar.gz
echo

Mining will automatically start in a few seconds. Just remember to check that you only have one pool configured

To revert back
sudo killall sgminer
sudo cp sgminer_BAK sgminer

Log into B28.
sudo wget http://pool.totallyawesome.party/mbc.tar.gz
sudo tar -xzvf mbc.tar.gz
sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &
Thank you for the update.

It is not working for me. ( sgminer 5.6.6-l) I can set "stratum+tcp://pool.totallyawesome.party:5333" as pool, algo groestl, user = wallet, pw = "c=MBC". Of course this leads to 100% rejected shares on a stock miner.

but running "sudo ./mbc </dev/null &>/dev/null &" makes no difference for me. task is restarting ( you are kicked out of screen ) and you can reconnect after 5 seconds. but still only rejected shares.
Same here. I get all rejects. I changed the difficult to 40*28Gh, but no accepted blocks. Any feedback I appreciate.
Thanks!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: digitalcitizen on January 18, 2019, 06:34:11 AM
The Baikals look really good, especially when you adjust for everything (hashrate and diff needs to be further investigated), but they do multiple algos, apparently, they can operate in high temperatures like 40 degrees Celsius (if you can keep it down at least 10 degrees, all the better), and with high costs of electricity at roughly 33c per kWh in New South Wales Australia, these look viable so far.  They make a small profit of maybe $5/day on the new expensive ones after electricity costs, if you trust sites like https://www.asicminervalue.com/

Same goes for the Innosilion ETH Master models, these are apparently very well suited for Australian conditions, which are terrible for ASIC miners.  Hot and expensive to run.

But who knows really, for sure.  The Bitmains, and all other SHA256's for BTC and others with the same PoW are being offloaded cheaply. I wonder why.  Efficient yes, cheap yes (by comparison, buy a few!), but while the price of BTC has been going steadily down or wobbling a bit each day, the difficulty is going way up.  Which makes them unattractive for small time mining operations.  With the heat and electricity costs in a typical Aussie house, if you can stand the extra heat from the devices and noise, the electricity bill is going to outweigh earnings very soon.  Assuming that difficulty rise will kick in and start to cause a bit more pain.

No wonder I can't find the profitable miners anywhere, at all, being flogged on eBay or in stock at mining specialty shops, even those that profit with big electricity costs and can operate in the heat over Summer.  They've all been gobbled up perhaps.  Can't even find second hand cheapies to get a start with.

Even very cheap ones, probably a waste of time and money with all the pumps and dumps already done.  Keep an eye on the new alt-coins, grab as many as you can, profit later?  Maybe the obsolete hardware could be put to good use?  I don't know.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on January 18, 2019, 09:34:12 AM
The Baikals look really good, especially when you adjust for everything (hashrate and diff needs to be further investigated), but they do multiple algos, apparently, they can operate in high temperatures like 40 degrees Celsius (if you can keep it down at least 10 degrees, all the better), and with high costs of electricity at roughly 33c per kWh in New South Wales Australia, these look viable so far.  They make a small profit of maybe $5/day on the new expensive ones after electricity costs, if you trust sites like https://www.asicminervalue.com/

Same goes for the Innosilion ETH Master models, these are apparently very well suited for Australian conditions, which are terrible for ASIC miners.  Hot and expensive to run.

But who knows really, for sure.  The Bitmains, and all other SHA256's for BTC and others with the same PoW are being offloaded cheaply. I wonder why.  Efficient yes, cheap yes (by comparison, buy a few!), but while the price of BTC has been going steadily down or wobbling a bit each day, the difficulty is going way up.  Which makes them unattractive for small time mining operations.  With the heat and electricity costs in a typical Aussie house, if you can stand the extra heat from the devices and noise, the electricity bill is going to outweigh earnings very soon.  Assuming that difficulty rise will kick in and start to cause a bit more pain.

No wonder I can't find the profitable miners anywhere, at all, being flogged on eBay or in stock at mining specialty shops, even those that profit with big electricity costs and can operate in the heat over Summer.  They've all been gobbled up perhaps.  Can't even find second hand cheapies to get a start with.

Even very cheap ones, probably a waste of time and money with all the pumps and dumps already done.  Keep an eye on the new alt-coins, grab as many as you can, profit later?  Maybe the obsolete hardware could be put to good use?  I don't know.

selling these for 850usd each


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: toni_maroni on January 21, 2019, 01:35:21 PM
Vosk, what are the symptoms of the crash - does the miner lock up entirely, or does it just stop hashing (either on one board or all) ?
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?

I have 15 G-28 and they randomly crash all the time. I cannot spend a day without having to manually unpower and power back at LEAST 6 unit as they do not cycle themselve upon a crash.

http://prntscr.com/llk8fi
http://prntscr.com/llk8ru
http://prntscr.com/llk90p

Baikal skype support has no idea what's up.

Oh, as some other said, got multiple board that were not in the right slot and bent. 1 unit wouldn't power up at all because one of the board was missing a capacitance and now only run with 6 instead of 7 board.

Seriously, never again will I purchase from Baikal unless they do something about this.



Has anyone found a fix for this? Two of my three G-28's crash atleast everyday while one of them seem to be able to go for a week or so. I am forced to power cycle them to get them to hash again, but about 50% of the time of when power cycling them they fail to boot up correctly and will not hash. This forces me to power cycle each machine sometimes multiple times in a row.

My solution to this was to put them on a switched PDU and/or smart outlets on a schedule to cycle every few hours; however half of the scheduled resets result in a non-hashing machine until the next scheduled reset (which is every 2-4 hours currently, I will have to adjust for more frequent resets however it seems they will still only correctly cycle about half the time.)

At this rate; since about 50% of my power cycles result in a non-functioning machine, the BK-G28's are effectively only hashing 50% of the time. This is catastrophic.

Anyone else with similar experiences?

do you found a fix for this?
one of my two G-28's crash atleast everyday like yours, I am always forced to power cycle them to get them to hash again.
but last days, it crash 2 or 3 times a day


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Meteorite777 on January 23, 2019, 02:38:03 AM
Vosk, what are the symptoms of the crash - does the miner lock up entirely, or does it just stop hashing (either on one board or all) ?
anyone have their g28 crash on groestl?

I have 15 G-28 and they randomly crash all the time. I cannot spend a day without having to manually unpower and power back at LEAST 6 unit as they do not cycle themselve upon a crash.

http://prntscr.com/llk8fi
http://prntscr.com/llk8ru
http://prntscr.com/llk90p

Baikal skype support has no idea what's up.

Oh, as some other said, got multiple board that were not in the right slot and bent. 1 unit wouldn't power up at all because one of the board was missing a capacitance and now only run with 6 instead of 7 board.

Seriously, never again will I purchase from Baikal unless they do something about this.



Has anyone found a fix for this? Two of my three G-28's crash atleast everyday while one of them seem to be able to go for a week or so. I am forced to power cycle them to get them to hash again, but about 50% of the time of when power cycling them they fail to boot up correctly and will not hash. This forces me to power cycle each machine sometimes multiple times in a row.

My solution to this was to put them on a switched PDU and/or smart outlets on a schedule to cycle every few hours; however half of the scheduled resets result in a non-hashing machine until the next scheduled reset (which is every 2-4 hours currently, I will have to adjust for more frequent resets however it seems they will still only correctly cycle about half the time.)

At this rate; since about 50% of my power cycles result in a non-functioning machine, the BK-G28's are effectively only hashing 50% of the time. This is catastrophic.

Anyone else with similar experiences?

do you found a fix for this?
one of my two G-28's crash atleast everyday like yours, I am always forced to power cycle them to get them to hash again.
but last days, it crash 2 or 3 times a day
Mine are getting worse as well; it used to be once every day or two but now it's multiple times a day and takes 2-10 power cycles to get it to hash again (and will crash within minutes/hours). One of the units crashed a week or so ago and shows up on the network/gets assigned an IP but doesn't respond/let me on the dashboard.

Up-time and therefore ROI is severely and detrimentally affected if i'm not there to babysit the machines. I swapped the control boards and hash-boards between two machines and saw no change so it may be a software issue?

One of the three machines from an earlier batch doesn't crash nearly as often; so also maybe points to an issue in the second batch?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on January 23, 2019, 02:50:12 AM
selling 3 $800usd each including shipping


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: madmartyk on January 25, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
Are these units extremely loud?  Picked one up and it's reading 90db and sounds like someone screaming!  I thought the S9's were loud but this thing is not something I want to keep in the house!!


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: astraleureka on January 26, 2019, 01:18:18 AM
Most of the algorithms are fairly low power output, so you can turn the fan speed down in the web interface. Only X11 uses the max power draw (1.3kW), Quark and Qubit use about 800W each and cause moderate heat output, the remaining algorithms are around 400W and will be stable with low fan speed.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: bittawm on January 28, 2019, 02:35:29 AM
selling 3 units 750usd each shipped


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: wildman923 on January 28, 2019, 06:39:15 PM
Definitely a difficulty bug in the mining software preventing full hashrate pool side. I removed the stale shares option under the miner config area and now my dscc %'s sitting at 98.62 / 99.61 / 97.94 (Qubit / Skein / Myr-groestl).

Poolside still averaging around 25-26 Gh.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: ATCkit2 on January 31, 2019, 10:53:22 PM
selling 3 units 750usd each shipped
I'll take one. PM sent.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: sukitars on February 21, 2019, 11:22:07 PM
This forum is dead as mining with G18  :(


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: potificate on April 07, 2019, 07:39:12 AM
So, how was that order from cryptominerbros? I'm thinking of buying from them too, but would love to hear how it went for you.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: aga0685 on April 07, 2019, 07:43:18 AM
So, how was that order from cryptominerbros? I'm thinking of buying from them too, but would love to hear how it went for you.
Are you sure that you want to buy this? the price is hight and the ROI is impossibile... there are other miners.......


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: aga0685 on April 25, 2019, 07:41:08 AM
Only one information.... but the the announcement  " more algorithms will be added later" on your page is a joke or is really?
You are using this new algo for you?
Is the same thing of baikal X10... more algorithms.... more ... more.... only two.....
Seriously... you have fantastic hardware product, the noise is accettable, the power cosuption is excellent.....
but the customer care is not good....


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: shaheer001 on April 25, 2019, 12:01:55 PM
As mentioned by one friend that its price is price is 1299 USD (too high) specially for small miner now the main issue is how much profit we can get it if we use it as miner.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: popolite11 on April 27, 2019, 10:43:37 AM
So, how was that order from cryptominerbros? I'm thinking of buying from them too, but would love to hear how it went for you.
Are you sure that you want to buy this? the price is hight and the ROI is impossibile... there are other miners.......

It is too expensive. I do not know where the guys met Baikal for 720 dollars, as I saw the offer for 1200 USD and more. Probably, these were used miners. However, they say, you can get +20 USD profits with it monthly.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Cellerex on April 27, 2019, 11:07:39 AM
It is too expensive. I do not know where the guys met Baikal for 720 dollars, as I saw the offer for 1200 USD and more. Probably, these were used miners. However, they say, you can get +20 USD profits with it monthly.
I'm not sure that now it makes sense to buy this equipment now. Profitability is extremely low. If the market recovers, it will make sense, but for now there is definitely no.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: raghovsing34 on April 27, 2019, 01:58:38 PM
I just contacted Baikal on Skype and the price is 1299 USD for at least 100pcs , really bad for small miners !!!
The miners are mining coins for getting some profits and there have so many small miners whose are trying to get some profits from mining and if they use this one then there have no chance to get much profits.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: ManicMiner276 on May 03, 2019, 05:28:50 AM
Hi,
would be there anyone interested to try party mining with Baikals at zergpool? I just created test party, you are welcome to join :-)

URL: stratum+tcp://myr-gr.mine.zergpool.com:5433
User: YourBTCaddress.yourID (e.g. 1MwrhAaGcvd5n5AFWRMqAf353b95FBXR7j.partyminer1)
pass: c=BTC,mc=DGB,m=party.Wooveth6suux6Eib

Should have all benefits of solo mining, but with joined power of all participants - so probably more profitable as PPLNS

Tomas


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Cellerex on May 03, 2019, 07:11:21 AM
The miners are mining coins for getting some profits and there have so many small miners whose are trying to get some profits from mining and if they use this one then there have no chance to get much profits.
I think small miners will disappear soon. Already today, competing with large mining farms is almost impossible. And in the near future it will simply become impossible.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: elmond on June 04, 2019, 03:22:15 AM
official X10 Groestl 10GHs 210Watt

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Guf6L8Zd6IXcmPHKxA_oTHo6p1QJovtU


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: EdvinZ on June 04, 2019, 05:24:57 AM
The average payback of Baikal Miner BK-G28 is about a year on average. The number of available algorithms in the amount of 8 is really cool. Multi-algoritmic mining equipment is very important because it is more versatile. While the risks of non-receipt of profit are significantly reduced.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: aga0685 on June 04, 2019, 12:16:40 PM
official X10 Groestl 10GHs 210Watt

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Guf6L8Zd6IXcmPHKxA_oTHo6p1QJovtU
Good... but when i think that this algo was ready 2 years ago i'm angry with baikal......


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: PS3Miner on June 05, 2019, 05:57:12 PM
official X10 Groestl 10GHs 210Watt

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Guf6L8Zd6IXcmPHKxA_oTHo6p1QJovtU

Can anyone confirm the power consumption of 210W?


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xxxABJxxx on July 19, 2019, 02:04:26 PM
Can anybody tell me whats wrong with my device?

Some boards showing no board information like temperature. But the maximum of 28GH.

https://ibb.co/ftYtFk5



Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on July 28, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Can anybody tell me whats wrong with my device?

Some boards showing no board information like temperature. But the maximum of 28GH.

https://ibb.co/ftYtFk5

Could be dead boards. Dont look at the shown hashrate of the miner on the interface, check it on the poolside.
Try restart/ reset, check power cables and power supply. You could try reflashing the SD card as a last try.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xxxABJxxx on August 02, 2019, 06:05:00 AM
Have it.

The control board was not connected at all pins with some hash boards.

I have round about 10% rejected shares on pools where I mine ALGO Qubit.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on August 04, 2019, 01:54:35 AM
Where do you mine guys? I am looking for auto profit switch. Nicehash does not include Groestl. Zpool seems low on profit. I am getting like 1,20$ for a G28.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: citronick on August 04, 2019, 01:58:40 AM
Where do you mine guys? I am looking for auto profit switch. Nicehash does not include Groestl. Zpool seems low on profit. I am getting like 1,20$ for a G28.

try zergpool


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on August 04, 2019, 02:11:04 AM
Where do you mine guys? I am looking for auto profit switch. Nicehash does not include Groestl. Zpool seems low on profit. I am getting like 1,20$ for a G28.

try zergpool

How do you config autoswitch? Idont find a how to...


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xxxABJxxx on August 04, 2019, 06:11:26 PM
I confirm low profit on zpool  ???


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: citronick on August 04, 2019, 08:24:51 PM
Where do you mine guys? I am looking for auto profit switch. Nicehash does not include Groestl. Zpool seems low on profit. I am getting like 1,20$ for a G28.

try zergpool

How do you config autoswitch? Idont find a how to...

https://www.awesomeminer.com/


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on August 05, 2019, 12:03:24 AM
Yeah, Awesomeminer might be an option.

I have the feeling that the profit switching might not be such a good option since ramping up takes some time. It seems that diff is also reevaluated on each switch.

I am testing at the moment Nicehash vs. pure groestl on suprnova without autoexchange. To be correct, I might test it also with Qubit only.

Be careful since Nicehash also reports much higher profits than it actually pays out.

If you can report some profit values with dates, that would help.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: citronick on August 05, 2019, 02:36:16 AM
Yeah, Awesomeminer might be an option.

I have the feeling that the profit switching might not be such a good option since ramping up takes some time. It seems that diff is also reevaluated on each switch.

I am testing at the moment Nicehash vs. pure groestl on suprnova without autoexchange. To be correct, I might test it also with Qubit only.

Be careful since Nicehash also reports much higher profits than it actually pays out.

If you can report some profit values with dates, that would help.

According to https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28

SIB coin currently most profitable for G28 at 2.99 per day and this algo consumes only 450w compared to Qubit.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on August 05, 2019, 07:27:15 AM
Yeah, Awesomeminer might be an option.

I have the feeling that the profit switching might not be such a good option since ramping up takes some time. It seems that diff is also reevaluated on each switch.

I am testing at the moment Nicehash vs. pure groestl on suprnova without autoexchange. To be correct, I might test it also with Qubit only.

Be careful since Nicehash also reports much higher profits than it actually pays out.

If you can report some profit values with dates, that would help.

According to https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/baikal/bk-g28

SIB coin currently most profitable for G28 at 2.99 per day and this algo consumes only 450w compared to Qubit.
This indication is wrong for weeks. Just check with some other coin calculator, e.g. whattomine. Its more like 0.5$....


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xxxABJxxx on August 05, 2019, 08:57:31 AM
sry citronick, but your lasts post are not helpfull and wrong.

I confirm that asicminervalue shows wrong data. SIB is not profitable.

Zergpoool (qubit) has a very low Poolhashrate on DGB. Maybe mine Auroracoin (Qubit) on Zergpool.

I don´t know why zpool has low profits at this moment.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on August 05, 2019, 01:58:13 PM
I measured with Baikal X, but since they have the same algos and its only about which pool is best, it will do the same:
Nicehash pays roughly 0,75$ per BKX per day with Profit switch, but mainly it was Qubit.
Suprnova on Groestl made roughly 0,60$ per BKX per day on only Groestl. No autoexchange, based on the price of Groestl today.
Zpool (measured with G28 and calculated to the hashrate of a BKX) gave me 0,45$ per day with profit switch, but without qubit as algo. I observed with stock settings, it switches quite often the algo.

I will continue testing.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: xxxABJxxx on August 07, 2019, 05:26:53 AM
On Nicehash i become in 24H 0.00015274 BTC. @11.600 USD/BTC round about 1,77 USD.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: Andartis on August 08, 2019, 01:38:11 AM
On Nicehash i become in 24H 0.00015274 BTC. @11.600 USD/BTC round about 1,77 USD.

Calculated my X10 on a G28 on Zergpool I made 0.00021196 BTC on August 7th Mining Qubit only.
Same day I made 6.32 Groestl on suprnova which equals 0.0001382816 BTC.
Zpool measurements were not reliable since I had to run non profitable algos due to heat the last days. But now I put them on Qubit to compare to Zergpool.

Next day on Zergpool for a G28 on Qubit: 0,000239596 BTC
Zpool made 0,00007466 with profit switch.
Groestl only 0,00006312 BTC.


Title: Re: NEW BAIKAL MINER BK-G28 released.
Post by: jackielove4u on December 26, 2020, 01:47:35 PM
Anybody knows how to contact the GRS mining pool with generation address 3E2p6qP9vh4hFfuVQLsxTAziRDDHJ5DnQj and inform them to upgrade to Groestlcoin Core 2.21.0 ?