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Neluns thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4694028.0 exhibits all the hallmarks of a botted thread with numerous newbie accounts raining platitude about the project, answering each other, and completely ignoring questions directed to them. But that's not the problem

Neluns claims to be registered in NYC and SEC compliant. However, for such an "American" company, they seem to quite incapable of finding that one English dude to write their PR as exemplified here: https://medium.com/@iconeluns/the-manhattan-blockchain-fund-is-an-anchor-investor-of-neluns-b2d99656eb12

Then, you've got the "Binance List in Progress" thingy on their site. Anybody who's been around long enough knows NDA prevents startups from naming exchanges they are in discussion with (at least the top 50), not to mention stamping it on their homepage.

Then you've got this Russian language investigation put together by a very astute and concerned community member: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/

Concerned by all these, I went into their TG channel to alert them to the concerns on BTT. Next thing I knew, I got the boot.

no wonder will be like this ,
since they claim ico raised more than 100,000,000 usd its too much ,
since market still on slow performance.
i also read more more thread about neluns scam,
but , i think we need more a perfect proof about this cases.

They are a clear scam. First they are saying they raised $136 m with just some 850 investors which they are claiming as institutional investors, seems absurd.  Then the Manhattan fund which was supposed to have invested $1.5 million has a website hosted on same server as their official websites.

They are clearly a scam.

I believe most of ICOs are getting their threads hyped, even though it's against the rules. When I worked for one ICO, we had such offers regularly. Newbie activity costs the least, so this project probably didn't raise much money even if they are saying the opposite. As for English, I believe that projects can actually apply to SEC even if they are not registered in the US. After all, this is the most famous STO regulator in the world for now. The whole project doesn't look very nice to me, though, since it doesn't offer anything new.
The Russian article is pretty good in showing that the project is at least lying to people if not planning to dump everyone.

Not question the fact that they are bumping their thread. Thread bumping is an open secret on BTT. My worry comes from the fact that it's over two weeks since ICO ended and they're still bumping threads. To what end?
Add the amount they claimed to have raised and it becomes all the more worrisome that they need to bump their threads in the first place. Numerous ICOs have successfully raised a fraction of that without bumping. You don't raise over a hundred million without crossing a few oceans and knowing some highly-placed individuals. So why bump - using accounts that can barely string two words together. I'd assume as a financial company based in NYC, quality control will be of paramount importance in whatever service they choose to engage - including bumps and writers.
Apparently, not the case here. Not only are they shitposting, but their articles are also poorly written too. Makes you wondered what they submitted to the "SEC" or pitched to "VCs". To cap it off, they are security token, meaning no good listing anytime soon (they can always pin that on the SEC conveniently), or (and based on their "quality control" or lack of) get listed on some shit exchange and keep stumbling all over their roadmap.
Interesting times.

There's also a Scam Accusation thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5063134.0) on the main board.
Would be particularly interested if anyone has NELUNS' BTC investment donation address, much forum merits for info, tia.

https://i.imgur.com/gfDrlss.png

According to what I've been able to gather, the exchange listing that was promised to be announced today is yet to materialize. Also, bounty hunters are being threatened to have their rewards slashed for being "Stupid" and "Idiot".
Ok. Very corporate speak. very professional.
Bots are back on the ANN thread too

I heard about this project for the first time. It's a good thing you haven't seen it before. I'm sorry for the investors who deposited money.

This project is looking really dangerous to me because it's raised too much and also their commitment is not accurate as well. Their commitment was they will start distribution 28-30 OCTOBER but they didn't started yet. I am really shocked.

And now, they've started deleting posts on their self-moderated thread. Anything critical of them or even those asking for clarifications are getting deleted by the dozens.
Yesterday's promised exchange failed to materialized.
The funny thing is they're now talking about listing on Yobit, Mercatox, Bancor - after previously claiming they cannot list their security tokens on ordinary exchanges

I think this article should help them with "listing" on exchanges:

https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2

be sure to tell your friends... ;)

I read this article three times

https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/

There is one moment and I wanted to clarify with you:

The Manhattan Blockchain Fund of which the Neluns ICO team told us it really is located at: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States?  But at this address  is located Deutsche Bank New York: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States. And here is the proof of this, here is the link to the official page of Deutsche Bank New York: https://www.db.com/usa/content/en/Contact.html This is the address of the Deutsche Bank New York  and  The Manhattan Blockchain Fund  is no any fund there. It also means that The Manhattan Blockchain Foundation does not exist. Did I understand everything correctly?

These scammers are lying with us, i would not believe anything that has been written by these scammers until they can prove it. Remember this amount can be manipulated. I have seen a lot of icos are creating marketing gimmick like this one and this statement is mind-blowing. To give a hype to this scam ico and this is total bullshit.

Bothered by the bumps on their thread, artificial or maybe because of their bounty. I also hate the way they predict the token price and that "Binance Listing", they are also a security token but the fact that they just recently finish their ICO, I don't think that I could judge them as a scam on first glance. Many red flags which made me think that Investors must notice in the first place, whether that $136M collected funds is true when the hardcap is only $112M (Reference (https://t.me/TheNelunsChat/10727)), I think I want to send regards to the investors for good luck.  ;D

Considering that all of what you are saying here can be true then indeed these are big signs (RED FLAGS, many may say) of a project about to say goodbye to the whole world and for the people behind to enjoy their hoards somewhere else where nobody can recognize and find them (hope they go to hell to meet their idol). In case they can be another scam, this is just another black eye in the whole cryptocurrency industry and just another evidence of what I am saying that scammers from all over the world are now uniting in this industry and they will never stop doing their destruction until something is still left on this industry.

I've been on the other end of a listing team. I know it's impossible for anybody to talk about any top 10 listing to the public once the NDA is signed and submitted - was even involved in one where the listing lead wouldn't even talk to us about the status because he didn't want to jeopardize (or encourage inside trading). But here's Neluns boldly declaring it. Are they related to CZ?
Then, you've got the nice chart about NLS token growth. Upward trajectory throughout 2019 to infinity


Such MOON!

We both no there's no such trajectory in crypto. You can't keep mooning for months unending. No force can guarantee that.

There's also a guaranteed dividend table


...."Lets become rich together?" ... Are they not rich already with $130-something raised?

Also, all those american flags...

Well neluns ico is obviously illegitimate :)

Yes you're absolutely accurate on that. And do you also noticed that all nelunsbank.com, neluns.io sites and even their “secret” foundation themanhattanfund.com are created on the same template? Meaning its hosted on one server, and also registered with just one domain name registrar. You can check domain names here: https://www.whois.com/whois/

Can really smell something worrying here, like:

The price of one NLS token will reach $1,200 by 2021.

It just seems kinda weird that some coin's bounty would present this kind of info so surely like it was the only possible outcome in the point of view from the coin's price.

It all can be a totally worthless worrying but still, seems weird.

I thought this is the same NEL that Woshib before posted if i'm not mistaken. Then it rings a bell when I saw the manhattan fund article that they have raised more than $100m. This is really alarming if that many bump posts by newbies in their ANN have raised fake marketing for other new investors. Good thing we still have concerned members not just being blinded by the rewards of the bounty or any rewards campaign.

Unfortunately, we still have lots of blind members. A peak at their bounty channel revealed so many "Ooohs", "Aaaahs", and "Moons" because the admin posted the Binance application thing...
Then, there was this "encouraging" post by one of the admins Lee White (https://t.me/neluns_bounty/6027)

Guys, @alexajoan was an invited bounty manager on outsourcing from marketing company based in San Francisco. Her job is well done.
Now our CTO Darrell Martin is on duty of bounty manager till December 31. All questions about bounty campaign you can ask here in chat.

We’ve noticed some negative activity of bounty hunters who aren’t satisfied with our bounty campaign. We won’t give any comments about this stupid morons and haters. Neluns is the American Company and it contradicts to our policy. But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign.
Before you show off hate and write negative comments about our project turn on your brain and think about the consequences.

Yes... very professional and official to call folks stupid and morons on a public channel

It's truly a shame that this seems like a scam, would have been nice if it were real :(

Wow! Not just stupid but morons too 😂 Really professional... For goodness sake, they're acting like children and candies 🙄 Seriously this 👉 "But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign"? BRAKES really? Are you guys four wheeled horse drawn carriage or something.

No ma'am. They are THE AMERICAN COMPANY and we're obviously too dumb to figure out that they are THE AMERICAN COMPANY inspite of all the flag waving, themed accessories and apparels.

could not agree more.
raised over $100 millions in this kind of market ? while everybody is fearing the market and the dump ?
another thing is, they have 1200 followers on their twitter. does it make a sense to you guys ? for me, i do not.
if they could raise that much of money and all of them were real, they should have more than that because it can be considered as successful project in 2018 and this project surely will get an attention from people and medias.
(let's not talk about their excuses and incompetence plus their website is way too simple).

They statements every time is funnier and funnier. It’s just funny when they call themselves an American Company and a lady wears an american flag. Also statements about listing on the Binance exchange. That contradicts the rules of the Binance exchange and generally logic. And according to the rules of Binance, such information cannot be disclosed, if it were so, no one would have said this before the listing procedure was completed. This is another fact proving that Neluns is an illegitimate company and its team are fraudsters. And the listing on the Binance exchange will never take place. I like how it is written about this in this article:    https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2

LOL. At this time, I don't think there is any ICO project can rise that much money :)). There are so many great ICO projects but they're still being in trouble to rise to much smaller amount of money while almost investors are trying to stay away from investing in ICO project when this downward trend still happening.

i think its really scam, i try to ask in ann thread but i cant, my post was deleted by OP, i think $100 million in this bear market is impossible..

This article contains all the information and evidence that the "project" Neluns is illegitimate and the team that organized it is fraudsters: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/

Speaking about the flag. Is it just me, or that flag thing is kinds cliché? I mean most of them look more Russians than American I'll say.

Just how dumb do they think we are? How is it possible to raise such money, in this bear market. Perhaps they're selling flags too 😁

They can be anyone of nationality and representatives of any country. It is impossible to say for sure that they are russians, romanians or ukrainians. But we can say for sure that they are not americans and their english is not the main language. Excuse me for my french :D

Was supposed to say the same thing on my mind too where I cant really believed that there would be a certain ICO that can raised up 100M on this bear market even back in the years reaching out that
threshold of 100M would already be outstanding but talking this declining market even getting 2-3M usd funding would really be hard. It is shady as hell when a project do tell about getting 100M funding plus projecting too good to be true gains on upcoming years?

Agreed. But what I just don't understand is, why $136M? Can't they just go for something like 1.5M or highest 20M and not the extreme 136M. 20M would have been a better option, a more sane pretty little lie

Of course it doesn't matter where they come from or who they are. But the fact that they're using American flag to obviously attract attention is Not So Professional. They're using a flag to cover a lie :)

Surprise!
Said nobody.
Neluns promised to list on smaller exchanges this week and rattled off a series of names including Bancor, Yobit, and the likes.
Guess who got listed?
Not Neluns.
Admin's now saying says they will be announcing asap
Plus they are now spam adding followers

Illegitimate is an understatement. They are an outright scam and the amount they claim to have raised is bogus at best. It seems to be a common trend among scammy icos to inflate the contributions they receive  to excite confidence in potential investors and deceive them into thinking they are legit and people are contributing. If you find their payment address(es) it will tell a different story.

Why bother to fight back? I mean, can't they see that whatever they try to do only pulls them down. No need for all the promises 😑

On that amount they claim to have raised, I agree with you. It's just too much to even make any sense. I'm pretty sure that's the first mistake they made, that led to everyone knowing they're scam.

A lot of new ICOs will say they raised x amount of money but no-one has published a public facing wallet for us to verify those funds. I'd be wary of any ICO claiming to raise that amount, clearly a scam

You can see the information about the collected funds of Neluns at ETH here:

https://bloxy.info/address/0x15c64faab19b9f29742515944ec404a2b1ef0607

This is the address of the Neluns  contract creator  to which investors sent the ETH

and you will see that they collected a little more than 639 ETH.

I don’t think that they raised more funds in Bitcoins.  ;)

In more detail about how much money they actually raised you can also read here:   https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/

ICO Neluns is illegitimate  and  it  not collected  $136 000 000

Actually some scam ICOs are masterminds. They make sure they provide false documents to convince

This project has been all shades written all over it and I actually warned my friends about it. Thank God I'm vindicated today. Not sure they collected that much in their ICO, even though they claim to have received that amount in contributions, but a scam remains one. Now they've taken to deleted any post that's critical of them. It's unfortunate their investors have been duped and may never get refunds.

It's nice to be vindicated, but it's saddening to not be listened to in the first place. Now the TG channel is dead quiet - though they seem to still be spam adding folks. ANN thread is still be botted though.

If they're spam adding people, TG should restrict their channels? You know, as most people will report.

Don't think Telegram works that way. They may block the channel creator temporarily from posting on Telegram, but he can always claim that it wasn't his account that was spam adding folks - basically those spam adding are individuals beyond their control

I hope its not, because I made an investment too

Hmm I surely won't want to be spam added. Well, what will happen to those who invested in it now?

Unfortunately, I wish I wasn't the bearer of this news, but from the tone of your post, I think you too can tell that a lot just doesn't add up with the project - not to mention the countless claims and promises they have made and failed to deliver on any

That's a gimmick that created by the team. By spread the fake news about how much has already raised by them and they wanna lure investors that only interested to invest when that ico has already collected a alot of money. Be careful because this can be manipulated easily.

Do you think there's a slight chance for refunds? Or at least an apology for messing up.

That's straight up misinformation and manipulation - right from the onset, without a product launched. If they are willing to kickoff like that, what will happen after they manage to develop something (that's if they don't pull a vanishing act first)?

I hope that their project is still in spite of everything will be good, but that a lot of negative speeches I hear in their address, and this is certainly alarming. The amount of course they have collected a huge and this with such a falling market.

In more detail about how much money they actually raised you can also read here:   https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/

ICO Neluns is illegitimate  and  it  not collected  $136 000 000  (!!!)

If only there's a way or a single good news/event they plan to hold or create, which isn't a lie. It would be great :|

Or perhaps they panicked and lie? I mean, are we sure they were/are scam since the beginning of their ICO? What if they panic and made expensive mistakes? Well just saying

It was a deliberate scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5063134.msg48083819#msg48083819) from Day One.

They had a community vote about which exchange to list and only 130 out of 14k voted. If it was a voting contest, I'd understand. But asking your community to vote on which exchange they'd like to trade and only 130 responded? Yep. Goes to show the real number in the community.
So, now they'll be listing on IDEX and Hotbit - or so they claim.
A security token on IDEX? Lol

Well like I said, everything they try to do just keeps blowing up in their face 😔 Why won't they just scram like any other scam project.

All the efforts they're putting in fixing everything. It's kind of pitiful really, but then again what about those who made investment in it  :-\

Not much effort went into this screenshot of their copy pasta "nearly ready" exchange lol.
They could have at least found an actual BTC chart to stick in it, and I see the (top left) news is nice and up to date.  :D

https://i.imgur.com/2Nh1j0X.jpg?1

Their P2P page is nearly as impressive.
They should have gone down the HYIPshop and bought a decent $50 template.
Or learned to spell.

https://i.imgur.com/aPZO1XC.jpg?1

On the way to progress and moon....you know it makes sense.

Well true, but this is not all there is about them. I came across not one but three articles, emphasising on their claims and efforts to convince the public.

Please share.

well
another one ico with fake ratings
if that true, i mean the scam project is real
web ico must be banned, i guess.
idk why neluns get high rating of icobench,trackico and icomarks.

i think you are right, but here is not 100% newss. becouse i know some project with high volume - without trusts. i know some projects withous ICO  (100% ovners investicion) and project was grow 10X in 10 day. i newer will invest in project - which looklike neluns. but its not mean - project without PUMP and bennefits.

The bigger shame is the fact that certain investors are now aware of all these inconsistencies, but are too afraid to call them out not because they are afraid of being banned, but because they are hoping NLS get listed for them to exit and recoup some of their investments back

Yes, there's every opportunity to make a quite buck if you time your entry and exit properly, but the problem is not only the fact that is is a huge gamble, it's because  of the falsehood which is a big problem that continues to push people away from ICOs

The saga of Neluns - THE AMERICAN COMPANY that keeps giving continues:
They've recently asked all bounty hunters to deposit Eth first in order to redeem their tokens. The following are from their bounty channel on Telegram https://t.me/neluns_bounty:

https://i.imgur.com/kfSZqOk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xCohn0I.jpg

Sometimes, I wish someone was making this whole thing up

Is that even okay to the community/bounty hunters? I mean what's the point then... Its like they're purchasing it 😁