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Title: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 09, 2018, 06:52:25 AM I like to share my story without the consent of tomatocage, recently I was moving on to sell my token IMVR for .25usd cent per token and I gradually found a buyer name John Smith he contacted me on telegram I post it on marketplace which you can found l here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050488.msg46941107#msg46941107
We're almost on a deal and tomatocage was the escrow he pick and contacted via bitcointalk.org profile Gmail address and tomatocage sent out Gmail to me stated that the only thing he can do for me is to hold the funds until I can provide tx transaction that I gave the said token to the buyer But we're almost on a deal and this John Smith hurried up things to me which I expect suspicious so I pretend that I lost my json file format on myetherwallet and I decided to postpone the deal. And found out that Krispy and tomatocage was Link to each other I just can't stop thinking what if this guy name John Smith related to Krispy thus stumbled across this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12363857#msg12363857 Is it okay to trade nowadays person to person. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: S_Therapist on November 09, 2018, 06:57:54 AM Move this ththread in reputation. You will get better response.
Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Kopyleft on November 09, 2018, 07:23:43 AM When choosing an escrow, it has to be a user who you both are on preferably one with a high trust rating. You can use https://bpip.org to find the most trusted users on the forum.
If your opinion if the planned escrow is tainted you can suggest another or back out of the deal. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 09, 2018, 07:39:15 AM Move this ththread in reputation. You will get better response. I'm not gonna move this thread to another as am not accusing anyone here just insight Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: S_Therapist on November 09, 2018, 07:40:46 AM When choosing an smesxriw it has to be a user who you both are on preferably one with a high trust rating. You should have checked the profile of Tomatocage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522)And his trust rating- 240: -0 / +24 Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Kopyleft on November 09, 2018, 07:55:36 AM When choosing an smesxriw it has to be a user who you both are on preferably one with a high trust rating. You should have checked the profile of Tomatocage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522)And his trust rating- 240: -0 / +24 I did check it. And if you read my post well I did not say he was an untrustworthy member. I only linked him to where he can find the list of most trusted members in the forum (some have more trust ratings) And they can use the data to both agree on an escrow. If I were to enter a trade, I would start from contacting those on the top of the rating, until I get a free and willing user. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: LoyceV on November 09, 2018, 08:43:28 AM tomatocage sent out Gmail to me stated that the only thing he can do for me is to hold the funds until I can provide tx transaction that I gave the said token to the buyer Could it be someone else sent you an email with tomatocage's return address? That's easy to fake.Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: jeromix on November 09, 2018, 11:10:51 AM tomatocage sent out Gmail to me stated that the only thing he can do for me is to hold the funds until I can provide tx transaction that I gave the said token to the buyer Could it be someone else sent you an email with tomatocage's return address? That's easy to fake.Probably this could be the reason why the user want to get the exchange to be done quickly. If I were you OP wait for the BCT account of the escorow service to reply your PM you so that you will get a legit email add or a telegram channel from the escorow service provider. I doubt that escorow service provider is doing scam for he had a good trust rating. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 09, 2018, 11:24:01 AM tomatocage sent out Gmail to me stated that the only thing he can do for me is to hold the funds until I can provide tx transaction that I gave the said token to the buyer Could it be someone else sent you an email with tomatocage's return address? That's easy to fake.Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: LoyceV on November 09, 2018, 11:38:13 AM I don't know but ***@gmail.com the one send me a message Anybody can send an email with a certain send-from address. If it's the real tomatocage, he should be able to reply to an email you sent to that address, and I don't think that has happened.John Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith) sound like a generic fake name. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Steamtyme on November 09, 2018, 11:50:49 AM Couple things -
If you check Tomatocage's Sig space, it states the Escrow service is Temporarily closed. I don't see anywhere that you have any legitimate correspondances from them, I also don't see the ones from "John Smith" (The irony is killing me) The best thing you can do when in doubt, is request that the Escrow agent Sign a message from their staked BTC address, this is usually posted in their Escrow thread, or would be staked somewhere on the forum. You made a good call in stopping as soon as things felt iffy. There are a lot of scams out there and as people have pointed out there are ways of cheating email addresses and other messages. They can't cheat a signed message from a staked BTC address. As long as it is quoted or archived elsewhere to prevent it having been tampered with in the case of a hacked or sold account. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Rambotnic on November 09, 2018, 12:21:49 PM John Smith? Is that Brad Pitt or i am wrong ? :D
Did i really read right that OP is selling IMVR at 0.25 per token? Based on the only exchange IMVR exists that token not worth even 0.004$ ? -> https://ddex.io/trade/IMVR-WETH Consider OP is trying to scam huge with price, how you expect to find a legit buyer ? :D:D:D:D Correct me if im wrong OP but isnt the IMVR token price is 0.000016 per token ? (0.004$) Why would someone pay 0.25 per token consider they can use exchange buying it at 0.0004$? I can see on the ddex exchange this: IMVR-WETH ImmVRse Token 0.000016 WETH ($0) Last Price -- 24H Price 0 WETH 24H Vol 0x7878...e660 Contract Address So... you selling dead token at x6250% more than the original price ? :D "Legit" offer should always expect "Legit" people buying it :D When you trying to scam people with price, expect to be scammed... *P.S: It is obvious that Tomatocage escrow service is closed by the way. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 09, 2018, 12:46:32 PM John Smith? Is that Brad Pitt or i am wrong ? :D I don't know but this guy called brad Pitt was so interested in imvr tokenDid i really read right that OP is selling IMVR at 0.25 per token? Based on the only exchange IMVR exists that token not worth even 0.004$ ? -> https://ddex.io/trade/IMVR-WETH Consider OP is trying to scam huge with price, how you expect to find a legit buyer ? :D:D:D:D Correct me if im wrong OP but isnt the IMVR token price is 0.000016 per token ? (0.004$) Why would someone pay 0.25 per token consider they can use exchange buying it at 0.0004$? I can see on the ddex exchange this: IMVR-WETH ImmVRse Token 0.000016 WETH ($0) Last Price -- 24H Price 0 WETH 24H Vol 0x7878...e660 Contract Address So... you selling dead token at x6250% more than the original price ? :D "Legit" offer should always expect "Legit" people buying it :D When you trying to scam people with price, expect to be scammed... *P.S: It is obvious that Tomatocage escrow service is closed by the way. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Rambotnic on November 09, 2018, 12:56:56 PM May we know at first place why u selling token at x6250% above the original price and how come you expecting someone legit to "hooked" ? :D
When you trying to fuck someone... I guess... Expect to be fucked? Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 09, 2018, 01:00:59 PM May we know at first place why u selling token at x6250% above the original price and how come you expecting someone legit to "hooked" ? :D We've been contacted a long time ago and happened to be both online so we rush things over but this guy already contacted tomatocage1@gmail.com as fast as he can and he said that he already deposited to him and moment later tomatocage1@gmail.com send me a message but I'd like John Smith to provide me tx transaction on blockchain.info that he already deposit to tomatocageWhen you trying to fuck someone... I guess... Expect to be fucked? Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Rambotnic on November 09, 2018, 01:04:34 PM May we know at first place why u selling token at x6250% above the original price and how come you expecting someone legit to "hooked" ? :D We've been contacted a long time ago and happened to be both online so we rush things over but this guy already contacted tomatocage1@gmail.com as fast as he can and he said that he already deposited to him and moment later tomatocage1@gmail.com send me a message but I'd like John Smith to provide me tx transaction on blockchain.info that he already deposit to tomatocageWhen you trying to fuck someone... I guess... Expect to be fucked? A scammer was going to be scammed... What an surprise :D So right after actmyname removed your negative trust from your rating and your profile is clear, you decided to take advantage of this and trying to screw someone ? :D ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815396 ) Thanks god only a scammer will contact someone who trying to scam with 6250% above the original price :D Not long ago you were tagged for suspicious activity and now you trying to "fuck" someone again ? Shame... Anyway.... If someone is so dumb to pay 6250% above the real price i guess he's more stupid than the one who offers it.. I don't find that honest. And everyone told you around that Tomatocage is not doing escrow services since ages... Does that ring a bell to you? Wanting to sell something at price which will fuck the buyer doesn't ring you a bell that scammy offers will bring only scammers to you? Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 09, 2018, 02:23:55 PM LoyceV is correct here:
Could it be someone else sent you an email with tomatocage's return address? That's easy to fake. and here:John Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith) sound like a generic fake name. Plus Tomatocage hasn't been active in months and, as was pointed out, his escrow service has been suspended per the message in his signature. Even if it was the real Tomatocage account, there's been some suspicion that whoever is controlling it now may not be the original owner who earned all that postitive trust. Glad OP backed out before he got scammed, which I have zero doubt is what would have happened. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 11, 2018, 08:39:36 AM I'm gonna contact him this evening again, and let you guys know, if he insist tomatocage as an acting escrow I would back out everything once again. I will insist him yogg and monbux or any other acting escrow here on forum not tomatocage if he have two different handling account being escrow I'd love to being scam.
Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 11, 2018, 08:44:57 AM May we know at first place why u selling token at x6250% above the original price and how come you expecting someone legit to "hooked" ? :D Then stop questioning me about why I'm selling 6250% higher I'm just offering it on fforum to be honest I'm selling it 10000% times higher simply sell it and found a serious buyer rather than waiting ddex to have this volume of 12000 might be a good idea to canvas here at forum and Luckily found me.When you trying to fuck someone... I guess... Expect to be fucked? Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Vod on November 11, 2018, 08:45:57 AM Tomatocage has never been deceitful.
I doubt he would contact you when he hasn't been on the forum for 191 days. :/ https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Tomatocage Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 11, 2018, 10:39:09 AM Tomatocage has never been deceitful. I doubt he would contact you when he hasn't been on the forum for 191 days. :/ https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Tomatocage How will you explain this to me, a generic tomatocage1@gmail.com was sent email to my email? And when I verified the sign message it reveal me Thomas Cage was the one send me the email, is that what he actually use to sign a message between buyer and seller for acting as an escrow. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: marlboroza on November 11, 2018, 12:59:13 PM OP can you post some proofs instead of "I said she said then he said"?
Screenshot would be ok for start. And found out that Krispy and tomatocage was Link to each other I just can't stop thinking what if this guy name John Smith related to Krispy thus stumbled across this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12363857#msg12363857 Well, that is strange. I wasn't here back in 2015. so what happened here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938340.msg10358524#msg10358524)?Is it okay to trade nowadays person to person. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: Vod on November 11, 2018, 02:28:44 PM How will you explain this to me, a generic tomatocage1@gmail.com was sent email to my email? And when I verified the sign message it reveal me Thomas Cage was the one send me the email, is that what he actually use to sign a message between buyer and seller for acting as an escrow. I won't. Do your own research. I refuse to believe that someone I have trusted for almost a decade would suddenly come back to scam you for relative pennies. :/ Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 12, 2018, 07:13:54 PM Same here
Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 12, 2018, 07:17:43 PM https://imgur.com/a/HZneuSn
Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 12, 2018, 07:18:03 PM Maybe just a spoof gmail
Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 12, 2018, 08:16:36 PM This is the file attach to the email https://files.fm/u/xbm5n4hv
Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: DarkStar_ on November 12, 2018, 10:30:52 PM Mind grabbing the email headers and posting them? Here's a simple guide to do it. (https://confluence.atlassian.com/jirakb/how-to-get-full-header-for-emails-776653110.html)
My guess is that the email doesn't originate from Gmail, though I would assume Gmail would be better at recognizing spoof emails from themselves. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: LoyceMobile on November 12, 2018, 10:35:59 PM https://imgur.com/a/HZneuSn It literally says: "This message may not have been sent by: tomat*****@gmail.com".That just means anyone can use an SMTP server to send such an email. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: tmfp on November 12, 2018, 10:40:56 PM https://i.imgur.com/9MMKuYo.png
That's obviously not TC's style of writing or grammar. I wasn't here back in 2015. so what happened here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938340.msg10358524#msg10358524)? Big drama. Surprise, surprise. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: eddie13 on November 13, 2018, 01:50:30 AM Deal with Bitcointalk escrows ON BITCOINTALK!
You want your conversations recorded here for future proof of the contract's stipulations for starters.. And.. People impersonate trusted BitcoinTalk members off this site all the time to scam people.. Happens constantly.. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 13, 2018, 08:30:29 AM Me on the same moment had a big surprise,
bigmaster23 had a big doubt.how fucked up is that. Title: Re: tomatocage as escrow and John Smith my token buyer Post by: bigmaster23 on November 13, 2018, 08:38:43 AM My only advice to this was don't deal with escrow without any publicity here on the forum like contacting you on mail and so on try to have a request for pgp here on forum and not sent only via mail but it seems pgp can tampered also in some ways.
I lock the thread as the nonsense going crazy and not relevant to help any particular issue sorry for my harsh words but it is normal to be true than reading your advice that would not help any related question on my behalf. Seek my advice for future chosen victim. |
