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Title: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 10, 2018, 08:16:57 AM
Hey guys,

SportCrypt.com has been on the ethereum mainnet since last year with 802 ETH traded in the last week.  Would love some feedback from this community regarding the UI/UX as we aren't sure how to make it more intuitive.

You can check out the whitepaper here - https://sportcrypt.com/whitepaper.pdf

Thanks!


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: rickjamez484 on November 10, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
Wow pretty cool. I wasn't aware a betting exchange like this existed as a dApp.

I just skimmed the site and it says SportCrypt charges no fees? How do you make money to fund development?


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 10, 2018, 08:33:02 AM
Wow pretty cool. I wasn't aware a betting exchange like this existed as a dApp.

I just skimmed the site and it says SportCrypt charges no fees? How do you make money to fund development?

We don't charge any fees at the moment. At some point in the future we may implement a small fee, though at this time we are focused on product development and user acquisition. We've self funded the project over the last 15 months, and can continue to do so for the foreseeable future.





Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: rickjamez484 on November 10, 2018, 10:04:01 AM
Wow pretty cool. I wasn't aware a betting exchange like this existed as a dApp.

I just skimmed the site and it says SportCrypt charges no fees? How do you make money to fund development?

We don't charge any fees at the moment. At some point in the future we may implement a small fee, though at this time we are focused on product development and user acquisition. We've self funded the project over the last 15 months, and can continue to do so for the foreseeable future.





Congratulations. Your product appears to be a great use case for smart contracts.

What are you using for an Oracle to get the scores of the games?


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 10, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
Wow pretty cool. I wasn't aware a betting exchange like this existed as a dApp.

I just skimmed the site and it says SportCrypt charges no fees? How do you make money to fund development?

We don't charge any fees at the moment. At some point in the future we may implement a small fee, though at this time we are focused on product development and user acquisition. We've self funded the project over the last 15 months, and can continue to do so for the foreseeable future.





Congratulations. Your product appears to be a great use case for smart contracts.

What are you using for an Oracle to get the scores of the games?

Good question. You may want to check out our blog post that goes into more details - https://medium.com/@SportCrypt/desirable-aspects-of-sports-betting-dapps-6aef34a0713a (https://medium.com/@SportCrypt/desirable-aspects-of-sports-betting-dapps-6aef34a0713a)

As per the blog, "Although centralised, our oracle has a few design features to keep us accountable. First of all, if we incorrectly grade a single bet, we need to incorrectly grade every bet on that event. Furthermore, the grades are permanently embedded on the blockchain, providing irrefutable evidence of any oracle misbehaviour."

We are also working on a multi-sig solution that requires independent graders to agree on the outcomes before they can be finalized.

Of course we've been following other solutions such as Augur, but have some serious concerns with their approach which are detailed here - https://medium.com/@SportCrypt/technical-assessment-of-augur-5ff1a74df327 (https://medium.com/@SportCrypt/technical-assessment-of-augur-5ff1a74df327)


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: Patatas on November 10, 2018, 12:24:06 PM
Hey guys,

SportCrypt.com has been on the ethereum mainnet since last year with 802 ETH traded in the last week.  Would love some feedback from this community regarding the UI/UX as we aren't sure how to make it more intuitive.

You can check out the whitepaper here - https://sportcrypt.com/whitepaper.pdf

Thanks!
Don't want to go deep in the implementation part but just some UI reviews since you asked for it
1. The way bets are displayed looks vague and not attractive. Not-structured is the correct word I'd say.
2. Colour schemes are out of contrast. Use an online contrast selected to see which shade goes well with what.
3. The sliding/animation effects are too dull. The website needs a revamp man. Don't go about changing individual things, hire a UX guy and relaunch it.


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 10, 2018, 12:39:40 PM
Hey guys,

SportCrypt.com has been on the ethereum mainnet since last year with 802 ETH traded in the last week.  Would love some feedback from this community regarding the UI/UX as we aren't sure how to make it more intuitive.

You can check out the whitepaper here - https://sportcrypt.com/whitepaper.pdf

Thanks!
Don't want to go deep in the implementation part but just some UI reviews since you asked for it
1. The way bets are displayed looks vague and not attractive. Not-structured is the correct word I'd say.
2. Colour schemes are out of contrast. Use an online contrast selected to see which shade goes well with what.
3. The sliding/animation effects are too dull. The website needs a revamp man. Don't go about changing individual things, hire a UX guy and relaunch it.

Thanks for that feedback, we'd agree. Do you have anybody you'd recommend? I like what I see on crypto-games.net.



Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: Patatas on November 10, 2018, 12:48:11 PM
Hey guys,

SportCrypt.com has been on the ethereum mainnet since last year with 802 ETH traded in the last week.  Would love some feedback from this community regarding the UI/UX as we aren't sure how to make it more intuitive.

You can check out the whitepaper here - https://sportcrypt.com/whitepaper.pdf

Thanks!
Don't want to go deep in the implementation part but just some UI reviews since you asked for it
1. The way bets are displayed looks vague and not attractive. Not-structured is the correct word I'd say.
2. Colour schemes are out of contrast. Use an online contrast selected to see which shade goes well with what.
3. The sliding/animation effects are too dull. The website needs a revamp man. Don't go about changing individual things, hire a UX guy and relaunch it.

Thanks for that feedback, we'd agree. Do you have anybody you'd recommend? I like what I see on crypto-games.net.
Oh crypto-games.net are into business for a very long time and the website design wasn't the same since it was first launched. You will definitely evolve your style over time but the basic things need to be fixed. I do know people who could assist you with the same.Just send me a personal message here.


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: Patatas on November 10, 2018, 01:06:08 PM

Thanks for that feedback, we'd agree. Do you have anybody you'd recommend? I like what I see on crypto-games.net.


Hi there,

Check out our thread. We specialize in sports betting platforms

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1470882

If you're interested , our contact details are listed in the thread.

Thanks
Stop hijacking the thread you retard. @OP - Don't fall for members like the one quoted here. They have no history, no reputation and certainly are no good to the forum. All they do is spam their services where ever possible. Be careful while dealing with them.


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: kryptqnick on November 10, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
Hey guys,

SportCrypt.com has been on the ethereum mainnet since last year with 802 ETH traded in the last week.  Would love some feedback from this community regarding the UI/UX as we aren't sure how to make it more intuitive.

You can check out the whitepaper here - https://sportcrypt.com/whitepaper.pdf

Thanks!
Hello and welcome to bitcointalk community. Since your question is essentially about design, I think that there are some things you could improve in your whitepaper. First of all, you should make a background with your logo on it. This will help people to familiarize themselves with your company and remember it. Secondly, add photos, charts, diagrams and other visual material to your whitepaper. Most of people are more comfortable with looking at schemes and pictures than reading texts. I don't know if the ICO the whitepaper of which I'll show you is good, since I just took it from casino ico rate on icobench, but here's how a well-designed whitepaper looks: https://cdn.donocle.io/download/DONOCLE_WhitePaper_EN.pdf. Good luck!


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 11, 2018, 07:10:35 AM
My thoughts :
1. Using MetaMask is good idea since Metamask already popular and easy to use
2. Too many text/content on main page. Show less information, but using URL to different page or button to show detailed information is better IMO.
3. Consider adding icon to sports menu on sidebar
4. Add FAQ page, not everyone gambler familiar with smart contract

Thanks for that. I had forgotten that there isn't a FAQ, nor any instructions whatsoever :)

Will make those suggested changes.



Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: rickjamez484 on November 11, 2018, 01:54:01 PM
So I see that you have no KYC, which is a positive in my opinion, but how do you guys deal with issues like underage gamblers using SportCrypt.com?



Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 11, 2018, 06:39:40 PM
So I see that you have no KYC, which is a positive in my opinion, but how do you guys deal with issues like underage gamblers using SportCrypt.com?



Good question. Speaking for myself personally, I do care in the same sense that I care about anyone making bad decisions that affect them for the worse. That said, since we are a peer-to-peer matching system, I don't believe it is our job to police who can or cannot use the system.

Anyways the practicalities of ETH prevent us from policing this even if we wanted to. Once you have ETH you are already in the casino, so to speak.


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: rickjamez484 on November 12, 2018, 02:15:16 PM
So I see that you have no KYC, which is a positive in my opinion, but how do you guys deal with issues like underage gamblers using SportCrypt.com?



Good question. Speaking for myself personally, I do care in the same sense that I care about anyone making bad decisions that affect them for the worse. That said, since we are a peer-to-peer matching system, I don't believe it is our job to police who can or cannot use the system.

Anyways the practicalities of ETH prevent us from policing this even if we wanted to. Once you have ETH you are already in the casino, so to speak.

Makes sense. It will be interesting to see how this whole decentralization thing plays out in the coming years.

What have you guys done as far as marketing? How many users per day are you getting etc?


Title: Re: Betfair meets the Blockchain using Ethereum smart contracts at SportCrypt.com
Post by: sportcrypt on November 13, 2018, 12:32:23 PM
So I see that you have no KYC, which is a positive in my opinion, but how do you guys deal with issues like underage gamblers using SportCrypt.com?



Good question. Speaking for myself personally, I do care in the same sense that I care about anyone making bad decisions that affect them for the worse. That said, since we are a peer-to-peer matching system, I don't believe it is our job to police who can or cannot use the system.

Anyways the practicalities of ETH prevent us from policing this even if we wanted to. Once you have ETH you are already in the casino, so to speak.

Makes sense. It will be interesting to see how this whole decentralization thing plays out in the coming years.

What have you guys done as far as marketing? How many users per day are you getting etc?

Hi there,

We haven't done any marketing thus far. The focus has been on product development, whereas most competing projects tend to focus on marketing their ICO.

As far as users per day, we're usually around 20 or so. This is the metric we watch - https://dappradar.com/app/35/sportcrypt

Note though that the volume as seen on DappRadar tracks just deposits/withdrawals to the smart contract, and not actual trades. As of this post, the reported volume in the last 24h is 29.5 ETH and 678.8 ETH over the past 7 days respectively.

Thanks,
SportCrypt crew