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Title: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: marysmith on November 20, 2018, 05:14:03 AM
 Blockchain technology has successively broadened and has become one of the most popular innovation in the field of technology. The blockchain is now a mature field which is now being spun out into various applications and the definition says ‘The Blockchain is a public ledger for recording every transaction happening in a particular network'.

Here are some of the most familiar properties of Blockchain:
    1. Digitalized
    2. Decentralized
    3. Democratic
    4. Distributed ledger
    5. Transparent
    6. Immutable and Indelible
    7. Trackable
    8. Auditable
    9. Safe and secure
    10. Efficient
    11. Scalable
    12. Economical

    The blockchain is a distributed ledger, which can be used for recording transactions and storing transaction details. It tracks every asset placed on a network. There is no central authority in a blockchain system, meaning all transactions are recorded, stored and shared overall network participants. The applications of Blockchain are expanding beyond all the initially defined possibilities, For eg. trading, file storage, identity management, medical records management, and education etc.

    Through this blog, Let's look at how pivotal this new form of technology will help the healthcare industry grow.
   
    An accurate medical record is essential for proper healthcare management. Perfect medical records are fundamental for the care and safety of patients. One cannot consult his health with the same medical expert throughout his life. Sooner or later of life, he may need to approach some other specialist too. So the past medical records need to be displayed to the new one.

    The healthcare industry is completely immersed in data like clinical trials, patient medical verification, complex billing, medical research, drug development and more.

Let us take an in-depth dive of blockchain in healthcare  (http://www.blockchainexpert.uk/blog/how-blockchain-technology-can-transform-healthcare-industry)industry.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: coinplus on November 21, 2018, 07:35:12 AM
Maybe in USA it might work considering there are really shady healthcare stuff going on there but in general other countries already solved many of the healthcare problems so I do not think it would be wise to spend so much time on implementing blockchain into healthcare if it is not going to help them that much.

I mean if USA decides to make one for themselves, sure other countries could give it a try but they don't need it to create it themselves. USA have charges like 20 thousand dollars for a root canal or 500 thousand dollars for cancer treatment and so forth, those are basically "please die" from the governments and hospitals. Why would anything charge that much ?

It worths fraction of what they are charging. I have actually seen a hospital charging a couple for holding their new born baby titled "skin to skin care". Any wise rich person in a such ruthless capitalist system should start opening smaller cleaner and leaner hospitals charging less and make it a whole country and they can make a lot of money if they just undercut each other.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Renaldi blackspadeteam on November 26, 2018, 12:12:09 AM
Yeah, with Blockchain technology, doctors can store patient data safely and permanently, there are so many benefits of blockchain technology in the medical field, in my opinion, the blockchain must be implemented immediately to welcome the future


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: mrcash02 on November 26, 2018, 02:20:05 AM
Seems a good implementation. It would turn easier for the medics to know the patient's records with accuracy and it would give more transparency to the patients to see who are the medics that are caring them. The medics' records are very important too, there are medics who commit mistakes and have their mistakes omitted by those who have access to the records.

A transparent and free system for all like Blockchain is urgently needed.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 26, 2018, 03:19:59 AM
Here's where my ignorance of blockchain tech comes in.  It sounds revolutionary--but I'm concerned about patient confidentiality.  There are already centralized databases in my state that track controlled substances and who gets prescriptions for them.  That sort of thing can be abused in ways you can't even imagine.  How could you keep a decentralized database of patient data and keep it secure and yet useful for the medical professionals who need it?

A guy gets injured in Indiana, but he's from Rhode Island and all his medical info is in R.I.  How does the blockchain help the doctors in Indiana treat the guy at their hospital?  I could think of systems where blockchain tech wouldn't be necessary at all, so would it be any safer for the patient and/or more convenient for docs/nurses/pharmacists to have a blockchain solution?  You have to be very careful how medical information gets shared because of HIPPA laws.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: YOSHIE on November 26, 2018, 05:40:48 AM
Talking about Blockchain in the health sector, the blockchain system is an anonymous network to prevent violations of privacy and confidentiality in the health sector,
obviously, in this case intelligence, blockchain based is something that can improve blockchain applications in the United States and on a global scale.

"For that Blockchain innovations for health, with blockchain technology has the ability to increase the accuracy of payments, services, administration, medical services and speed, which will benefit health, providers, and consumers",

in other elements blockchain can be said to be part of a series of strategic actions taken by health. By implementing blockchain technology for health services, and for the development of other innovative blockchain technologies, this is very good and good for health development.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: andriarto on November 26, 2018, 07:22:29 AM
Yeah, with Blockchain technology, doctors can store patient data safely and permanently, there are so many benefits of blockchain technology in the medical field, in my opinion, the blockchain must be implemented immediately to welcome the future
many ico have themes about health, and ico they are successful, but most when price of bitcoin is still good, around 2017. the medical world does need it, because patients don't seem to run out


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: butka on November 26, 2018, 09:53:12 AM
While there are certainly some benefits, one shouldn't forget about the problems associated with the use of blockchain in the healthcare industry. A good description of the possible problems with this solution are summarized is the following post:

The problem is that a blockchain is a public, immutable, trustless, decentralised ledger. Anything data you include in a block is there to stay.
  • What if the patient changes his mind? There is no way to "erase" his data
  • What if data that is considered harmless at this point in time, becomes something of great intrest/value to for example insurance companies (for example, at this moment in time, you think it might be a good idear to record your pollen alergy into a blockchain, but in 50 years pollen alergies get linked to a specific type of terminal iless and an isurance company decides to double the premiums for everybody having a pollen alergy based on this data
  • I've also heared some companies saying that anonimising the patient's data is the sollution, but what if the key gets leaked? What if one of the hospital's databases gets breached and a hacker is able to link each anonymous key to a real life person?


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: AAlex48 on November 26, 2018, 10:19:49 AM
Blockchain removes corruption and makes all aspects more transparent. Perhaps this is why its adoption is difficult.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: yusupjatigumilar on November 26, 2018, 10:31:47 AM
 I agree if the blockchain system is applied to the world of health (medical) because all records will be very transparent and will be very amorous compared to medical records in the form of physical paper which may be stored for long periods of time being obsolete, if using the blockchain system then all data will be recorded neatly in accordance with the timestamp that occurred, and will not be lost as long as the system is still in use


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: LeGaulois on November 26, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
It could make a more efficient system, but I do think there is a price for the users ends coming with. The privacy, imagine a world where every medical act is written in a blockchain, and accessible to anyone. Perhaps, you're not interested to let everyone in your street know you have cancer, Aids, mental problem, or whatever.

So it would have to be a private blockchain.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 26, 2018, 01:29:56 PM
How could you keep a decentralized database of patient data and keep it secure and yet useful for the medical professionals who need it?

This is an argument I frequently make when people talk about decentralizing medical records, and I am yet to hear a coherent answer. The entire point of a medical database is to be under tight control of one or two parties, and to give secure access only to those who need it. Spreading your database out across multiple remote computers and locations makes this security more difficult, not less.


A guy gets injured in Indiana, but he's from Rhode Island and all his medical info is in R.I.  How does the blockchain help the doctors in Indiana treat the guy at their hospital?

It doesn't. Creating a single blockchain for all patients is completely unrealistic. The average patient generates approximately 80mb of medical data per year (https://geekdoctor.blogspot.com/2011/04/cost-of-storing-patient-records.html). A blockchain for all 300,000,000 US patients would grow at the size of 22 PETABYTES per year.

Currently where I work, we have a single Electronic Medical Record (EMR) for all patients in our district. We also have direct access to the EMR systems of all neighboring districts. Any patients from further afield than that, we simply email a request for their EMR to be transferred across, or phone to request the transfer if it is an emergency. All this is done with centralized systems, and it all works perfectly well. The entire system is continuously monitored to ensure you aren't accessing any records that you shouldn't be - family members, colleagues, etc. Given at any one time there are potentially thousands of records being updated by various staff, having one centralized database means everyone is always working from the most up-to-date information. Literally milliseconds after the lab tech confirms a set of blood tests, the results appear on my screen, which is crucial in an emergency situation where seconds count. If someone can tell me how a blockchain would improve on any of this, I'd be very interested. Instead, I usually just hear the same nonsense spammy answers like "it will increase transparency" and "it will remove corruption".


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: olubams on November 26, 2018, 02:16:30 PM
Blockchain is Health care would be a great achievement in the era of data keeping and validation. Even in countries with advance technology in data keeping, the challenges are still enormous. But the challenge I see here is on the various factors that needs to be considered in the process. Medical records are confidential matters that should not be seen by everybody which negates the principle of complete transparency in blockchain.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Ponti on November 26, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
Not bad idea, I think there are already project involved in that matter. One of those is skin care project OPU. Generally I think it will be best to run a clinic or a hospital or a specific wing of those to keep the patience records. Immutable blockchain will do just right.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Renaldi blackspadeteam on January 04, 2019, 06:47:53 AM
Yeah, with Blockchain technology, doctors can store patient data safely and permanently, there are so many benefits of blockchain technology in the medical field, in my opinion, the blockchain must be implemented immediately to welcome the future
many ico have themes about health, and ico they are successful, but most when price of bitcoin is still good, around 2017. the medical world does need it, because patients don't seem to run out
yeah buddy, you're right, and in 2017 the best time for the price of Bitcoin is because many investors are investing in crypto trading and shaking the market, there are some health projects using blockchain technology that are successful but I think at the moment it might be quite difficult to be able succeed, because I see many investors selling assets and maybe the pope has dropped the price of bitcoin on the market, maybe this is why investors are lazy to invest in ICO projects


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: mersal on January 04, 2019, 07:41:06 AM
Yeah, with Blockchain technology, doctors can store patient data safely and permanently, there are so many benefits of blockchain technology in the medical field, in my opinion, the blockchain must be implemented immediately to welcome the future
many ico have themes about health, and ico they are successful, but most when price of bitcoin is still good, around 2017. the medical world does need it, because patients don't seem to run out
yeah buddy, you're right, and in 2017 the best time for the price of Bitcoin is because many investors are investing in crypto trading and shaking the market, there are some health projects using blockchain technology that are successful but I think at the moment it might be quite difficult to be able succeed, because I see many investors selling assets and maybe the pope has dropped the price of bitcoin on the market, maybe this is why investors are lazy to invest in ICO projects

The best thing of cryptocurrencies are it needs no time and no back things for anyone it made you more higher than before this is the thing that cryptocurrencies doing every time so we cannot forget this opportunity buy the life that you live made cryptocurrency more powerful is not a big problem it will be definitely grow up in our future.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Ponti on January 04, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
Good points TS, but blockchain's distributed and immutable ledger can impact a lot sectors, such as tax, bank info etc. It was meant to be used in bookkeeping from day one IMHO, just a lot of individuals and organisations are afraid of smthng new. I really hope this year will be much better for fintech and blockchain projects.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: superstarbtc on January 04, 2019, 12:20:10 PM
the blockchain is widely spread in healthcare sector most of the US and European countries are using blockchain to maintain health records major health care companies are coming forward to implement blockchain


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: jhongzjhong on January 05, 2019, 05:53:02 AM
the blockchain is widely spread in healthcare sector most of the US and European countries are using blockchain to maintain health records major health care companies are coming forward to implement blockchain
Yes you were right and I will be very excited if blockhain is adapted by the medical industry. Imagine hospitals saving a patient's data using blockchain? That's too safe and permanent. No one would ever gonna corrupt the data of the patient. People needs to develip the blockhain for medical purposes as much as possible. I will wait for it and support whoever the first one to make it it.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: elda34b on January 05, 2019, 06:26:46 AM
Yes you were right and I will be very excited if blockhain is adapted by the medical industry. Imagine hospitals saving a patient's data using blockchain? That's too safe and permanent. No one would ever gonna corrupt the data of the patient. People needs to develip the blockhain for medical purposes as much as possible. I will wait for it and support whoever the first one to make it it.

There are a lot of ICO project trying to achieve this, such as dClinic, and so on. I think this can bring new issue on patient privacy though, if data on blockchain is easy to decode, then anyone can use the data for their own purpose. Blockchain doesn't solve this issue, and it also doesn't solve fake data being input to the network. Let's see how this turns out, my stance is the same as Pharmachist though.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: GunsLair on January 05, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
As we have already found out, creating a patient database using the blockchain is not a good idea. But the blockchain in medicine can be used to record drugs and eliminate their fakes, for example.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: ToyotaFortuner on January 05, 2019, 03:33:46 PM
some of the advantages that are often used by health in using blockchain technology are true, because in the world of health all of them are based on recorded data base research from time to time, so to provide the application of blockchain on this health platform is very good because it can help and know the diseases in pain and the drugs needed quickly and transactions will also be easier if you fully use cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Beerwizzard on January 05, 2019, 05:14:48 PM
Tbh I don't see a serious need in the medical blockchain. Maybe only in the best world's hospitals.
I doubt that in poor countries people somehow care about the security of the medical data and everything still works fine without any extra audit etc.
From what I've heard the problem of cheap medical treatment is more about the qualification of doctors (and this is the most expensive aspect of expensive hospitals).
Blockchain won't help doctors to work better.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Supercrypt on January 05, 2019, 08:09:00 PM
There are still countries with horrible hospital issues, the not so improved countries (mainly third world countries) like African countries and some middle east and even some Asian countries and USA do not have proper medical technology to actually heal their people and the ones that have that kind of technology unfortunately can't really afford it and make it really expensive which makes it really hard for people to get healed.

There are people in USA die from cancer because they can't afford the therapy needed to get better and sometimes they spend up to 500 thousand dollars (WOW) in order to get better but still die. In my country thankfully cancer treatment costs like 4-5 thousand dollars in total and that is because some medicine needed to be shipped from another country for specific treatments but aside from that chemo is free, not even a dollar spent on chemo. Hence, blockchain could help those poor helpless Americans to reach to world standards with the obvious difference shown on blockchain and make hospitals liable for extra charges.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: mcTether on January 05, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
This is a good point being raised here. But I would like to inform you that there are already a number of token projects looking into this same healthcare direction like you. The blockchain can be expanded to cover every sector.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 05, 2019, 11:28:06 PM
Hence, blockchain could help those poor helpless Americans to reach to world standards with the obvious difference shown on blockchain and make hospitals liable for extra charges.

Yes, healthcare in the USA is broken, but blockchain technology isn't some magic bullet that can fix that.

There are already plenty of places where you can see the price differences between hospitals, such as the Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development for California: https://oshpd.ca.gov/data-and-reports/cost-transparency/hospital-chargemasters/. The issue isn't that one hospital is charging $50,000 for a caesarean section while another is charging $52,000, or that one pharmacy is charging $1,000 per month for insulin while another charges $1,100. The issue is that the real price of a caesarean section is less than $2,000 and the price of a month's supply of insulin is $20.

The issue with healthcare in the US is that it is run entirely for profit by the corporations which control it - people are seen as customers to spend money, not as patients needing care. Until these influences are removed, American healthcare will always be horrendous. Blockchain won't fix that, and even if it could, the corporations would never let it in if there was even a sliver of a chance of it cutting their ridiculous profit margins.



Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: Febo on January 06, 2019, 12:16:33 AM
Blockchain technology has successively broadened and has become one of the most popular innovation in the field of technology. The blockchain is now a mature field which is now being spun out into various applications and the definition says ‘The Blockchain is a public ledger for recording every transaction happening in a particular network'.

Here are some of the most familiar properties of Blockchain:
    1. Digitalized
    2. Decentralized
    3. Democratic
    4. Distributed ledger
    5. Transparent
    6. Immutable and Indelible
    7. Trackable
    8. Auditable
    9. Safe and secure
    10. Efficient
    11. Scalable
    12. Economical

    The blockchain is a distributed ledger, which can be used for recording transactions and storing transaction details. It tracks every asset placed on a network. There is no central authority in a blockchain system, meaning all transactions are recorded, stored and shared overall network participants. The applications of Blockchain are expanding beyond all the initially defined possibilities, For eg. trading, file storage, identity management, medical records management, and education etc.

    Through this blog, Let's look at how pivotal this new form of technology will help the healthcare industry grow.
   
    An accurate medical record is essential for proper healthcare management. Perfect medical records are fundamental for the care and safety of patients. One cannot consult his health with the same medical expert throughout his life. Sooner or later of life, he may need to approach some other specialist too. So the past medical records need to be displayed to the new one.

    The healthcare industry is completely immersed in data like clinical trials, patient medical verification, complex billing, medical research, drug development and more.

Let us take an in-depth dive of blockchain in healthcare  (http://www.blockchainexpert.uk/blog/how-blockchain-technology-can-transform-healthcare-industry)industry.

Problem is that when you lose private keys you lose access to the datas. What you will do when all your medical information are lost? Do all expensive tests again?


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: congresowoman on January 06, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
From the previous ICO that we have been seeing it is of good mention that finally blockchain is making its way to healthcare industry. Truly this will be a good help and will be a lot more convenient if payments for services and procedures. But the threat for this is the security of patients identity and profiles. If there will be a good partner storage for this then might as well this will be a good innovation to be adapted by hospitals and health clinics


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: wahyu wida on January 06, 2019, 06:18:35 AM
From the previous ICO that we have been seeing it is of good mention that finally blockchain is making its way to healthcare industry. Truly this will be a good help and will be a lot more convenient if payments for services and procedures. But the threat for this is the security of patients identity and profiles. If there will be a good partner storage for this then might as well this will be a good innovation to be adapted by hospitals and health clinics
this will be very good, because community services about health will be easier with the existence of blockchain, of course, it will accelerate the performance of the healthcare agency


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: sclmte on January 09, 2019, 01:57:08 PM
the blockchain is for a healtcare at all because it provides a decentrilized and a transparent one. blockchain technology is one of the best ledgers and good assets. the blockchain crypto ecosystem is good, then bring the rest of finance into the system. and also safe and secure with blockchain users.


Title: Re: Blockchain in Healthcare
Post by: akram143 on January 09, 2019, 02:47:14 PM
the blockchain is for a healtcare at all because it provides a decentrilized and a transparent one. blockchain technology is one of the best ledgers and good assets. the blockchain crypto ecosystem is good, then bring the rest of finance into the system. and also safe and secure with blockchain users.


Blockchain system will definitely be a good way of thinking to the next economic development equipment and it will be totally a life changing tool for each and every people who are in the middle class and I will definitely accept Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency will be a good way of money making in short period of time for each and every people in this world.