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Title: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: JealousCup on November 20, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
I can't blame the man. He never hid his efforts to avoid being anywhere that's close to a conflicted territory but his fear may serve as an incentive to invest in more projects to develop immersive technologies so that he can visit deployed soldiers without having to face any risk.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: TECSHARE on November 20, 2018, 11:39:15 PM
It is extremely uncommon for a sitting president to visit active war zones for pretty obvious security reasons. Nice attempt at a hit piece tho. Maybe next time.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: JealousCup on November 21, 2018, 10:52:21 PM
Not at all. I actually don't think it's safe to do so, hence why it'd be good to export the holograms of important people in high risk areas so that they can be in touch with deployed soldiers.
If you ask, I want a world with no wars at all.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Flying Hellfish on November 22, 2018, 04:58:46 AM
He's probably not afraid there just isn't enough pussy's to grab to make the trip worth his time!

Isn't there an invasion at the southern border, he might as well call that a combat zone and head there for a couple pics!


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: malading on November 22, 2018, 08:41:13 AM
It is foolish to visit troops on the battlefield, so being assassinated is inevitable. No matter how powerful the army, you should be careful about the power of the unknown. Don't forget that the president was assassinated in American history. It is wise to do so.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mOgliE on November 22, 2018, 10:55:01 AM
It is extremely uncommon for a sitting president to visit active war zones for pretty obvious security reasons. Nice attempt at a hit piece tho. Maybe next time.

Not so uncommon.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/27-times-the-commander-in-chief-visited-combat-zones



Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: TECSHARE on November 22, 2018, 07:56:59 PM
It is extremely uncommon for a sitting president to visit active war zones for pretty obvious security reasons. Nice attempt at a hit piece tho. Maybe next time.

Not so uncommon.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/27-times-the-commander-in-chief-visited-combat-zones

27 times is a lot? Also lots of trips to South Korea there in the early 2000's and on... I didn't know South Korea was a war zone. Oh right, technically on paper it is a war zone even though there hasn't been a battle there for how many decades? xD

Good try


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mOgliE on November 22, 2018, 08:53:53 PM
It is extremely uncommon for a sitting president to visit active war zones for pretty obvious security reasons. Nice attempt at a hit piece tho. Maybe next time.

Not so uncommon.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/27-times-the-commander-in-chief-visited-combat-zones

27 times is a lot? Also lots of trips to South Korea there in the early 2000's and on... I didn't know South Korea was a war zone. Oh right, technically on paper it is a war zone even though there hasn't been a battle there for how many decades? xD

Good try

Considering that previous presidents all did it about 4 or 5 times in their mandates it's not uncommon. Didn't say a lot but not uncommon.

And as far as I know he didn't visit troops in war zone that they be active or not.

How about you stop thinking we I have some kind of agenda against the guy? You keep saying shit like "good try" "nice try" like it's a personnal accomplishment to prove he made a mistake or failed at some point...


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Spendulus on November 22, 2018, 10:00:59 PM
He's probably not afraid there just isn't enough pussy's to grab to make the trip worth his time!

Isn't there an invasion at the southern border, he might as well call that a combat zone and head there for a couple pics!

Fuck "visiting troops in war zones" as a indicator of courage or, whatever.

Yes there are virtual combat zones at the US/Mexico border. Yes there are jeeps with 50 caliber guns, troops with 2" flak jackets (not just the lightweight bulletproof vests). Hell, I saw a K9 dog down there with a flak jacket!

How about good relations with NK as an accomplishment.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: JealousCup on November 30, 2018, 12:46:08 AM
He's probably not afraid there just isn't enough pussy's to grab to make the trip worth his time!

Isn't there an invasion at the southern border, he might as well call that a combat zone and head there for a couple pics!

Fuck "visiting troops in war zones" as a indicator of courage or, whatever.

Yes there are virtual combat zones at the US/Mexico border. Yes there are jeeps with 50 caliber guns, troops with 2" flak jackets (not just the lightweight bulletproof vests). Hell, I saw a K9 dog down there with a flak jacket!

How about good relations with NK as an accomplishment.

One more reason to use VR to avoid putting high ranking officials at risk. However, popularizing the trend would require everyone's acceptance.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: elastiman on December 06, 2018, 05:27:14 AM
I think he might be more afraid of what the troops are going to say to him and the political cost of that. But anyway what can he win by visiting the war-zones? he is not trying to get re-elected yet


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Spendulus on December 07, 2018, 02:09:36 AM
He's probably not afraid there just isn't enough pussy's to grab to make the trip worth his time!

Isn't there an invasion at the southern border, he might as well call that a combat zone and head there for a couple pics!

Fuck "visiting troops in war zones" as a indicator of courage or, whatever.

Yes there are virtual combat zones at the US/Mexico border. Yes there are jeeps with 50 caliber guns, troops with 2" flak jackets (not just the lightweight bulletproof vests). Hell, I saw a K9 dog down there with a flak jacket!

How about good relations with NK as an accomplishment.

One more reason to use VR to avoid putting high ranking officials at risk. However, popularizing the trend would require everyone's acceptance.

Just a clarification. When I mentioned 'virtual combat zone' I did not mean VR, but virtual combat zone = "almost a combat zone" definition.

Agree on the merits of using VR for a purpose such as you propose.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: BluePowder on December 07, 2018, 05:04:55 AM
I can't blame the man. He never hid his efforts to avoid being anywhere that's close to a conflicted territory but his fear may serve as an incentive to invest in more projects to develop immersive technologies so that he can visit deployed soldiers without having to face any risk.


LOL

That's not his job, do you think Afghanistan is a 2hr drive away ?  I think he's already done enough for the military and he can visit them in a safer location that isn't going to cost taxpayers millions.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: TECSHARE on December 26, 2018, 09:27:24 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/air-force-one-spotted-over-europe-currently-flying-towards-turkey

I suppose now you guys can break down the amount of time it took him to go, compare it to others, and claim it means something.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Spendulus on December 26, 2018, 10:21:12 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/air-force-one-spotted-over-europe-currently-flying-towards-turkey

I suppose now you guys can break down the amount of time it took him to go, compare it to others, and claim it means something.

Hey, but Hillary went there, like right into those COMBAT ZONES, man, and like, she got shot at and all that, and I heard all this so it's true, like whoa, because CNN told me.



Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mOgliE on December 27, 2018, 04:14:35 PM
Hey, but Hillary went there, like right into those COMBAT ZONES, man, and like, she got shot at and all that, and I heard all this so it's true, like whoa, because CNN told me.
Why do you even talk about Hillary?
Hating Trump doesn't mean loving Hillary...
Are you so much in the binary system?


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mikeywith on December 28, 2018, 02:31:08 AM
No body is launching any war on the U.S ,  the "war zones" you talk about are others country's lands that the U.S invaded in the name of "War on Terror" bullshit. that being said, Trump is smart enough not to go places where he is most certainly not welcomed. and as for the U.S army maybe it's about time to go back home and stop pretending the world peace maker. every places that the U.S army stepped foot at had only became a better place on American TV and Media while in reality it only got worse. so what fucking "war zones" are you talking about ?


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: BluePowder on December 28, 2018, 03:43:38 AM
I'd say the poster of this thread is biting his dogs finger nails right about now.  Trump spent Christmas in IRAQ with a bad ass speech and a show of love for the troops.. What did the communist queer do ?  Don't spend too much time thinking of the answer because he did nothing and spent his Christmas with his disgusting ape looking wife sitting around hating America..

Long live Trump.

Die quickly obuma , or should I say Frank Marshall Davis JR II


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Lucius on December 30, 2018, 02:29:01 PM
Trump is finally visited a war zone, if we can call Iraq a war zone. In that country, people die every day but in most cases from car bombs which are actually sect violence approved by the occupation forces. Trump even take his charming wife in this war zone and they have good time there by motivating their troops to continue their fight against terror. Since they defeated ISIS and Al-Qaeda, do they still look for weapons of mass destruction or just working on safe oil export from Iraq?

The view from a different angle, Trump also caused a minor diplomatic incident - but we all know Iraq is just one more playground for USA, and they play by their own rules.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/422933-iraqi-lawmakers-criticize-trumps-surprise-visit-as-violation-of-diplomatic


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: TECSHARE on December 30, 2018, 02:34:51 PM
Trump is finally visited a war zone, if we can call Iraq a war zone. In that country, people die every day but in most cases from car bombs which are actually sect violence approved by the occupation forces. Trump even take his charming wife in this war zone and they have good time there by motivating their troops to continue their fight against terror. Since they defeated ISIS and Al-Qaeda, do they still look for weapons of mass destruction or just working on safe oil export from Iraq?

The view from a different angle, Trump also caused a minor diplomatic incident - but we all know Iraq is just one more playground for USA, and they play by their own rules.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/422933-iraqi-lawmakers-criticize-trumps-surprise-visit-as-violation-of-diplomatic

Funny, Trump didn't get us in to Syria, but he is getting us out of it, still he is a warmonger right? Your brain is made of putty ready to be shaped to what ever bullshit makes you feel right on any given day.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Lucius on December 30, 2018, 05:51:28 PM

Funny, Trump didn't get us in to Syria, but he is getting us out of it, still he is a warmonger right? Your brain is made of putty ready to be shaped to what ever bullshit makes you feel right on any given day.

Why you mix Syria and Iraq here? USA interest for Syria is at this moment very low, and Trump is decide to withdraw military forces from there, why he not make the same move in Iraq?

Your comment about my brain is a very uncivilized form of communication, and just shows something about you as person...


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on December 30, 2018, 05:58:09 PM
Seems he made a trip there to see troops recently.
And in doing so was spotted by a number of sources.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/27/air-force-one-spotted-in-sheffield-how-uk-enthusiast-revealed-trumps-iraq-trip
https://thepointsguy.com/news/air-force-one-callsign-trump-iraq-trip/


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Spendulus on December 30, 2018, 07:06:33 PM
...Since they defeated ISIS and Al-Qaeda, do they still look for weapons of mass destruction or just working on safe oil export from Iraq?....

American Fracking industry has changed this around. We don't care about "safe oil exports from Iraq."

Oil cannot be used to rationalize American actions.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 31, 2018, 09:29:42 AM
I can't blame the man. He never hid his efforts to avoid being anywhere that's close to a conflicted territory but his fear may serve as an incentive to invest in more projects to develop immersive technologies so that he can visit deployed soldiers without having to face any risk.

But he just visited the troop in Iraq. By the way, Trump is a civilian and not a soldier. Not visiting the troop in war tore areas doesn't mean he's a coward. He should take his time and do whatever that pleased him provided those pleasures of his do not conflict with the American Constitution.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: TECSHARE on December 31, 2018, 03:33:50 PM

Funny, Trump didn't get us in to Syria, but he is getting us out of it, still he is a warmonger right? Your brain is made of putty ready to be shaped to what ever bullshit makes you feel right on any given day.

Why you mix Syria and Iraq here? USA interest for Syria is at this moment very low, and Trump is decide to withdraw military forces from there, why he not make the same move in Iraq?

Your comment about my brain is a very uncivilized form of communication, and just shows something about you as person...

Because he is the first president in a long time to actually REDUCE wars not increase them, but hey who cares about peace right? Not like this is a demonstration of his will to stop meddling in the middle east or anything... no he can only be a warmonger because the head in the glowing talkey box told me so. Get yourself some principles first then we can talk about being civilized.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: xbdgg on January 01, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
President Trump's domination of the news cycle overshadowed a lot of significant news in 2018. Here are some of the other stories you might have missed.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: BluePowder on January 27, 2019, 02:58:04 PM
Ditto on that one..  The so called peaceful communist coward Obama did nothing but kill hundreds of thousands of people, all while claiming to be the uniter.  By the end of his presidency there was more division , more corruption and more war than the past 3 presidents combined. Maybe the dumb socialists will wake up one day and see who they have to thank for the mass graves lying across africa and the middle east. He sure united people, 6 feet under.



Funny, Trump didn't get us in to Syria, but he is getting us out of it, still he is a warmonger right? Your brain is made of putty ready to be shaped to what ever bullshit makes you feel right on any given day.

Why you mix Syria and Iraq here? USA interest for Syria is at this moment very low, and Trump is decide to withdraw military forces from there, why he not make the same move in Iraq?

Your comment about my brain is a very uncivilized form of communication, and just shows something about you as person...

Because he is the first president in a long time to actually REDUCE wars not increase them, but hey who cares about peace right? Not like this is a demonstration of his will to stop meddling in the middle east or anything... no he can only be a warmonger because the head in the glowing talkey box told me so. Get yourself some principles first then we can talk about being civilized.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: Spendulus on January 27, 2019, 03:52:09 PM
It is extremely uncommon for a sitting president to visit active war zones for pretty obvious security reasons. Nice attempt at a hit piece tho. Maybe next time.

Not so uncommon.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/27-times-the-commander-in-chief-visited-combat-zones


Offhand I imagine those troops would prefer a president that arranges for them to go home, rather than one that visits them in the war zone.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: SCheek on January 27, 2019, 10:55:16 PM
Bro, he went to a war zone over Christmas??


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: TECSHARE on January 28, 2019, 04:20:42 AM
Bro, he went to a war zone over Christmas??

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/air-force-one-spotted-over-europe-currently-flying-towards-turkey

I suppose now you guys can break down the amount of time it took him to go, compare it to others, and claim it means something.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: drumamat on February 03, 2019, 08:19:03 PM
Regardless of the President, why would he go to a war zone?There are military generals who should be in such zones and report on the situation from there.When will such zones finally disappear on our home planet?Why not live peacefully and not kill people.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mayo2u on February 04, 2019, 04:13:15 AM


Considering that previous presidents all did it about 4 or 5 times in their mandates it's not uncommon. Didn't say a lot but not uncommon.

And as far as I know he didn't visit troops in war zone that they be active or not.

How about you stop thinking we I have some kind of agenda against the guy? You keep saying shit like "good try" "nice try" like it's a personnal accomplishment to prove he made a mistake or failed at some point...

No, previous presidents didn't go 4-5 times.

Roosevelt, Truman, Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush41, Clinton, Bush43, Obama

That's 13 presidents - or 2x per presidency.

And, if one discounts Korea - outside of Ike in 52 you can subtract 8 visits making that 19 "war zones."  I would subtract two of Roosevelt's visits as well. The Germans had no forces capable of striking in February of 1945.

So if it's cowardly of Trump - then wasn't it also cowardly of Truman, Kennedy, Ford, Carter and Reagan? (I'm not counting Korea)


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mOgliE on February 04, 2019, 02:29:18 PM
So if it's cowardly of Trump - then wasn't it also cowardly of Truman, Kennedy, Ford, Carter and Reagan? (I'm not counting Korea)

Never said it's cowardly of Trump...

Just keep putting your own words in my mouth if that helps you feel better though...


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: mayo2u on February 05, 2019, 03:06:14 AM
So if it's cowardly of Trump - then wasn't it also cowardly of Truman, Kennedy, Ford, Carter and Reagan? (I'm not counting Korea)

Never said it's cowardly of Trump...

Just keep putting your own words in my mouth if that helps you feel better though...

Good point. I conflated your post with others.


Title: Re: Trump is afraid of visiting troops in war zones
Post by: BADecker on February 05, 2019, 06:04:33 AM
Besides, the troops would be angry with him for taking so long to get them out of the war.

8)