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Title: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: DeKingCrypto on November 22, 2018, 11:47:55 AM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Benarand on November 22, 2018, 11:50:54 AM
More on forex it is known that bulls are pushing the price up, and the bears are pulling down. But in cryptocurrency, there are much more animals, there are giant whales and all the beloved hamsters, maybe there are some other animals.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: dinoloverpete on November 22, 2018, 11:51:32 AM
A lot of the fall will be from ICOs that were conducted and funds that have been released. They'll not to be sold either to continue development or just so Dev's can be rich. After that it will be people who aren't seeing enough progress with crypto in terms of real world adoption.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: juperos on November 22, 2018, 11:55:49 AM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.
Absolutely not them. Those are just small capitals. The cause of this downfall is whales, who have the power in the crypto market. They hold more than 100,000 BTC and easily manipulate the market. That's my answer. ;)


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Deallove9 on November 22, 2018, 12:01:58 PM
This is funny to as who are the bear in market as we are know their is no one to be called bear but me and you as the market only react to what we human do in terms of demand and supply base on our believe and also on our agreement to but at a particular amount or price and ready to sell with same set of mind and same apply to bull market and nothing more special or no one is bear or bull but me and you make up the market.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: alimarh on November 22, 2018, 12:35:24 PM
In my own opinion I think bears means something been so dull and this translate into the market been dull and its going down, this happens when a lot of people are selling off or there is a panic and people are selling off. That's my understanding of bear.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: JimmyNg90 on November 22, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
~ "Bear Market" ~ Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters?

 ;D You really have a sense of humour. If bounty hunters can make a bearish market, there will be many millionairs desire to be bounty hunter.

In my opinion, 2 factors is making the trend of market: FUD-ers/FOMO-ers and Whales/Sharks. One is manipulated and another is manipulator.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 22, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
Bears? it's a term for the market

Trading Terms – Bears, Bulls, Hawks, And Doves (https://www.binaryoptions.co.uk/trading-terms)

And those people that wants more bears are the investors who wanted to buy during the dip season. It could everyone.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: zenhu on November 22, 2018, 01:28:46 PM
are you kidding ?  ::)
bounty hunters can make bitcoin dropped ?
if you asking who make this situation you should talk with bch community  ;)


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Nitori_m on November 22, 2018, 01:32:10 PM
Bear are crypto whales who hold majority of BTC and are very manipulative. Their concern for the market is limited to their small circle consisting of other whales


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: knuckey on November 22, 2018, 01:34:20 PM
Bears? it's a term for the market

Trading Terms – Bears, Bulls, Hawks, And Doves (https://www.binaryoptions.co.uk/trading-terms)

And those people that wants more bears are the investors who wanted to buy during the dip season. It could everyone.
Yes I agree and that is the definition of bears, not bounty hunters or daily traders as the OP says. Perhaps a simple understanding when market conditions continue to deteriorate and become uncertain.

I think the more correct question is, who gets profit in the bear market  ??? ::)


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Docbee on November 22, 2018, 01:40:48 PM
The bear is low demand in the market, one of the reason price increase is when demands is too high than supply, bear are the buyers and sellers in crypto market be it whale or small fish.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: MOProgress on November 22, 2018, 02:38:02 PM
I think if I should give my own answer to this I will say the bears and the heavy FOMO dumpers, because they dump for a little thing, and panic selling is one of the biggest issues in this bear market.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: george_hured on November 22, 2018, 02:41:49 PM
Bears are people who bet that BTC will fall, open short positions for a fall, because they believe that BTC is overvalued or not needed at all. But this is certainly not an exact explanation.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Asmh85 on November 22, 2018, 02:43:56 PM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.
It's difficult to specify who are the bears, but I can say that they are bots are working when the price hits low level and that recall the panic everywhere.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: JCviggen on November 22, 2018, 04:36:02 PM
these are the same whales that manipulate the market. just in trading, there are three types of the market this is bear market, bull market and flat.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: cryptolidus on November 22, 2018, 10:11:16 PM
Bear market is the  condition of the market when the prices are falling and there is a widespread pessimism. That causes
a downward spiral and due to losing faith people are selling their coins. The origin of the name comes from how the animals
 attacks their opponents. That is, bull will trust its horns up into the air, while a bear will swipe down.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Micerker on November 22, 2018, 10:19:02 PM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.
Absolutely not them. Those are just small capitals. The cause of this downfall is whales, who have the power in the crypto market. They hold more than 100,000 BTC and easily manipulate the market. That's my answer. ;)
I agree with you that it is the owners of Bitcoin in large numbers who can manage the market the way they want. You can see that this market always controlled by bears, guys " big hand, big face" with tremendous influence that can change everything.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Open4lies on November 22, 2018, 10:27:37 PM
LOL. Maybe bears are preparing food for its long sleep in the winter :)). I think the best idea when market in bear time is holding. But if you're a good trader, you still can earn from day trading but it's really difficult to increase your balance in USD but in this time you should focus on increasing your balance in number of cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: yescrypto on November 22, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.

I believe when when people are talking about the bear market you should know what coins they are referring to and not those shit coins because that's what bounty hunters earn and not btc non eth then why dragging bounty hunters into this.
It's funny if you are among those who has no one drag their blame on than the bounty hunters


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: ije07 on November 22, 2018, 10:52:10 PM
I don't know for sure but it is possible that what is meant by "bears" is that large investors who have a lot of money tend to have an influence on market movements, but that only in my opinion is not something valid
I was curious if the market was taken over by a "bear" then would they return it again to make it happen pump?


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Masatos on November 22, 2018, 10:55:38 PM
of course not. Most likely this is the mood of the market from which everyone repels.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 23, 2018, 01:44:05 AM
Bears? it's a term for the market

Trading Terms – Bears, Bulls, Hawks, And Doves (https://www.binaryoptions.co.uk/trading-terms)

And those people that wants more bears are the investors who wanted to buy during the dip season. It could everyone.
Yes I agree and that is the definition of bears, not bounty hunters or daily traders as the OP says. Perhaps a simple understanding when market conditions continue to deteriorate and become uncertain.

I think the more correct question is, who gets profit in the bear market  ??? ::)
Everyone still can get profit during the bear market but its rare for small traders.

Such conditions now are debatable but there are more questions that are being generated from day to day. And everyone is making up such questions on their minds about this bear market. Whales do really benefit from this bear market, those who hold tons of coins.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: fuer44 on November 23, 2018, 01:47:07 AM
maybe more to the bounty hunter. and the term whales here are crypto holders who have a lot of balance and can control prices when they decide to sell everything.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 23, 2018, 01:55:54 AM
I don't agree if day traders are the main cause of bear markets or those called bounty hunters. Day traders only contribute a slight drop in prices when a bear market comes, and so with a bounty hunter they only have a few coins in their wallet, you can imagine that the pay of every bounty hunter won't be much. However, I have the presumption that if the bear market is caused by investors who have a large number of bitcoins or altcoins, maybe we can call it whales.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Bosmuda on November 23, 2018, 02:16:49 AM
I don't agree if day traders are the main cause of bear markets or those called bounty hunters. Day traders only contribute a slight drop in prices when a bear market comes, and so with a bounty hunter they only have a few coins in their wallet, you can imagine that the pay of every bounty hunter won't be much. However, I have the presumption that if the bear market is caused by investors who have a large number of bitcoins or altcoins, maybe we can call it whales.
Yes, what you say is true, I haven't been in the crypto world for a year so I don't really understand the terms in crypto, but with the presentation you give, it adds a bit of knowledge about this, and of course there are many other terms in crypto and must be studied more deeply


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Ali Akbar Torang on November 23, 2018, 02:58:16 AM
I think we need time from the progress of ICO to contributing to the cryptocurrency since the project are implemented in their territorial and need time to gave the impact back after the investment. just wait and hold.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: lobo13hf on November 23, 2018, 04:15:53 AM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.
This article will help you a lot to answer your question
https://cointelegraph.com/news/what-is-going-on-with-the-crypto-markets-analysts-unpack-factors-behind-10-days-slump
I guess that has a lot of reasons. The uncertainties in the crypto has become the trend right now due to the hash rate war in the bitcoin cash and a lot of institutional investors have been cashing out their money.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: chocopapaya on November 23, 2018, 04:20:18 AM
Isn't it you and I?

Tell me, are you hodling or trading?
Are you investing more?

The main reason for the is bearish market is because the vast majority of the casual investors are now hodling on to dear life.
That is because a huge percentage jumped in during last bull run or made huge trades last bull run.

This has left a lot of people with huge losses in their portfolios and they are just waiting to get at least their value back.

Also, it's not just the hodlers.
There hasn't been any significant wave of new money coming in either.
The fomo is over and crypto is rarely in mainstream news now.
Also, the stock market hasn't done well this year and has recently gone through some crashes.

In the end, the rsult is the what we see now.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Fluxtorrence9 on November 23, 2018, 06:06:54 AM
Its simply mean when the market price is in blood pool its bearish and when markets price skyrockets its bullish , I'm sure thongs will become stable very soon of not by December then it will be very early of next year 2019, we have the power to help too ,we are the investors and we need to keep investing ,whatever coins you get now will brings better profit because all altcoins are so cheap now


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Bharathi13 on November 23, 2018, 06:18:56 AM
The answer for your question is simple the biggest bears are giant whales and they have only one aim in their life to multiply their portfolio balance as much as they can. To multiply their crypto assets they don't even heisted to play with the emotions of the small investors as this crypto industry have proven already it can give profits and huge returns of money in the short-term. These big whales are manipulating market first they targeted Bitcoin and now they are targeting altcoins to bring their values which was on january 2017 so that they can invest large amount in altcoins and multiply their bitcoins when market will recover.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: sulis sudibyo on November 23, 2018, 06:23:57 AM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.

You're kidding me, Bounty Hunter is a bear. if indeed yes why do they want to join in following a bounty that has a long duration and the risk is not paid, even though it has a lot of money.

the bears are whale investors and people panic when they see prices fall.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: 3kpk3 on November 23, 2018, 06:24:53 AM
The logical answer is that almost everyone in this volatile market is a bear op. Majority of the investors in this market have already sold all or a big portion of their portfolio in order to recover their losses or cash in their profits.

A small portion of them are HODLING for the long term and this is a minority if you haven't already noticed. It is extremely difficult to HODL your coins and tokens in this volatile environment(Example: Look at the current market situation).

This has always been the truth and I doubt this will change anytime soon in the future.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: kidbounty on November 23, 2018, 06:32:29 AM
I'm sure it's not a bounty hunter who is a bear now. I see the bear market happened because of the factor of Hardfork Bitcoincash. when the hardfork became a hash war to dominate bitcoincash. so popes need big money to win this war.

the impact we can see a lot of altcoins that prices go down. so all this is wrong with the people who participated in Hardfork this time


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: tisumagic on November 23, 2018, 06:40:36 AM
from what I have read in previous discussions this bear market is a person with big capital and has an important role in the crypto world so he can change the market situation at any time like what is happening now. and the proof of the issue of ETFs that have been approved only does not have a positive impact on the price of bitcoin


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Ivanmikronov on November 23, 2018, 06:57:57 AM
Are traders, and using the speculative strategy. The bears can be attributed to newcomers that sell their stocks at any price, thereby lowering it. Bounty hunters are absolutely not to blame. They have a very small amount of cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: bamb on November 23, 2018, 07:46:01 AM
The dumpers, the rumour mongers, the deserters, the fearful, the speculators and the whales are the stakeholders that create the bear party! The moment there is a change in expectations, negative sentiment disappear and bearish market will be gone!


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: bvg96634 on November 26, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
I think it's not a "whales" or governments. It's just a huge mass of panic sellers that acts like a one bear.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: ukloon on November 26, 2018, 06:28:48 PM
The ethereum bears are the ones that ran an ICO collecting mass amounts of ETH and are now struggling to maintain themselves. Other bears are panic sellers and market manipulators looking to buyback on the cheap


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: styca on November 26, 2018, 06:32:02 PM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.

It's not anyone in particular, it's more a consequence of the markets being so thin and so speculative. Basically any small up or down trend tends to get massively amplified.
Bounty hunters I would imagine have pretty much zero influence on any except the very smallest markets. Traders can certainly play a large part though.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: masterkiller on November 26, 2018, 06:54:45 PM
Who is the bears? I just only know one, that was winnie the pooh ;D


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: cryptowolfsu on November 26, 2018, 11:44:13 PM
I don't know for sure but it is possible that what is meant by "bears" is that large investors who have a lot of money tend to have an influence on market movements, but that only in my opinion is not something valid
I was curious if the market was taken over by a "bear" then would they return it again to make it happen pump?


Large investors who has lot a  of money and influencing the market movements are called "whales ".
The name for bear market comes from  animals how they behave when fighting. The Bull pull his horns up
during fight (confident ) while the Bear swipe it down. So Bear is synonym for declining market and Bull  for increasing one.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: missyqt29 on November 27, 2018, 12:18:41 AM
More on forex it is known that bulls are pushing the price up, and the bears are pulling down. But in cryptocurrency, there are much more animals, there are giant whales and all the beloved hamsters, maybe there are some other animals.

There are also rabbit, as you know, everyone is chasing the rabbit and this rabbit is the one we called Bitcoin, it is furious and unpredictable, it will run drastically as we can't predict what it is going to do. That is one of the animal here in crypto.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: kidflash on November 27, 2018, 12:24:14 AM
I think it's not a bounty hunter or a day trader but a trader who panics (panic sells). Panic sales refer to the sale of investments on a broad scale, causing a sharp decline in prices. In most cases of panic sales, investors only want to get out of investment, not paying attention to the price at which they sell.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Gypsy.Danger on November 27, 2018, 08:29:39 AM
I think all of it. All of the investors and the users was affected on the bear market. Even the bounty hunters that just receive their tokens already down on their expected profit all because of the bear market.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Lake20 on November 27, 2018, 10:01:03 AM
The bears are the powerful, they are one who got involved in Cryptocurrency at early stage of its development and I now become millionaires through it. Most of these bears have sold off during all-time-high and they are manipulating the market in order to get in again.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: slaman29 on November 27, 2018, 10:06:19 AM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.

It's not anyone in particular, it's more a consequence of the markets being so thin and so speculative. Basically any small up or down trend tends to get massively amplified.
Bounty hunters I would imagine have pretty much zero influence on any except the very smallest markets. Traders can certainly play a large part though.

Someone has something sensible to say in all of this! I was thinking too, the bears are just as mythical as the whales. They have much better time to waste than to play with the markets, they just let the markets speak for themselves.

I'm not sure about how thin the markets are actually because we're seeing a lot of volumes but I guess if you account for wash trading then yes, most of that is artificial. The market always reacts in huge following. One big sell followed by another. The same mechanism applies for bear markets as they do in bull markets. Dominoes, that's all.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: The Seller on November 27, 2018, 10:49:55 AM
the bear market can occur by several factors and does not always occur because of the same problem, even in my opinion the news, panic and also the pope can be a trigger for the bear market.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Hillore on November 27, 2018, 11:09:29 AM
This is a type of trading on the stock exchanges, some of them play for a fall in quotations, and others for a rise. Bears - for a fall.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: nicster551 on November 27, 2018, 11:36:46 AM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.

People take them as the ones the think that the market will go down. You also can be a bear or a bull depending on how to see the market.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: onirecon2018 on November 27, 2018, 11:45:40 AM
Bears in the market are the ones who enter this market very early. They hold large amounts of bitcoin and they can sell bitcoins at any price and still be profitable. So they can manipulate Bitcoin prices easily.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: vanya.pronin.1983 on November 27, 2018, 11:54:31 AM
The bears are people who want the Bitcoin price to go down. The reason is, that they want to buy a lot of crypto and want to do it at the deepest price to gain better profits. Bull want to push the price and to sell BTC at the highest point.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: turkmachiavelli on November 27, 2018, 12:01:23 PM
Actually bear and bull are regarding of market system, but some people determine this system according to their interest so actually we can say that bull system or bear system are occured from some people.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: ambisyon on November 27, 2018, 12:12:00 PM
I think bear refers to a term used in the crypto community as an event where market is in down trend  movement. In my opinion, bears could probably be people in this community that are spreading negative news about btc that could result to fluctuation since they will be the ones buying one's btc market price value will becomes low. It is their intention to make btc price go down after all these people knew that btc will soon to progress.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: NoirSuccubus on November 27, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
Bears is a greedy animals that don't care about fate of crypto and just want to earn money even with this price.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: integrity42 on November 28, 2018, 05:09:32 PM
 i think it is whales that secretly rules the market and do what they want to do with crypto and market


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: JeromeL on November 28, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
I really wonder when it has to do with the "Bear Market"  I even read in some articles that the bears have taken over the market, now my question is; Who are the bears? Is it the bounty hunters? Or Day-traders?

I would love to know this.

Bears are holders of large capitals. They manipulate the cryptocurrency market in order to force people to sell their coins at discounted prices. And they are specifically pulling prices lower and lower to force the most resistant people to sell their coins.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Bttzed03 on November 28, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
Well, OP could also be right  ;D

Some bounty hunters are dumpers bringing the price of a certain coin or token down (like a "bear")  :P
Day traders don't really care much about the market condition as long as there is volatility.

I would also add Panic sellers as part of the group (bears). Without panic sellers, any FUD will not affect the market negatively.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: prrlc on November 28, 2018, 05:26:56 PM
there are a lot of rich people and they manage the great funds and they see the great potential on the cyrptocurrencies and they invest. And they are take the profit and pull back their money.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Fredomago on November 28, 2018, 05:27:54 PM
i think it is whales that secretly rules the market and do what they want to do with crypto and market
They are controlling both the bull and the bear, as they can point the directions of this market while they are holding most of the volume, this bear are continue ruling maybe they are not gaining enough of their target and they wanted to shake evenmore, we have to make our good observations and not to allow manipulators to ruin our investment, make a clear position in each investment that you will take and wait till you see success than bother yourself playing with this big whales around.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Airelves09 on November 28, 2018, 05:36:20 PM
Bear market means that encryption market is droping. There is no profit and growth space. At the same time, it's very unstable. And it will last for a long time.



Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: HertzCoin on November 29, 2018, 08:57:32 PM
These are manipulators with big money, they withdraw their dollars, and then they will buy them again, but at the most favorable price, they know how to wait, so they manipulate the market. This is very common in the history of finance; the main thing is to be patient and to look for new sources of income.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Rob768 on November 29, 2018, 09:07:03 PM
Bears are the market players which earn money on the falling market. Usually the use short-positions to make money. As for me, I trade on different market:bull and bear.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: dulinivanrus on November 29, 2018, 09:20:44 PM
Bear in the market or bear market is a relative concept. These are the people who bought the coin at a high price and the market falls and they run with this coin and the rate falls even lower. In consequence, bears become hamsters.


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Autumn.MediaGrp on November 29, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
Bears prepare FOODS for a long winter, its been 11months now since bears have been roaming around and preparing for something, there will be probably more but im ready to buy at 2k dip  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Who Are The Bears?
Post by: Pamahaw on November 29, 2018, 09:25:20 PM
Bear market means that encryption market is droping. There is no profit and growth space. At the same time, it's very unstable. And it will last for a long time.
That is the characteristic of a bear market but if we ask who are the bears, i think it is the whales as well considering that they are the ones that have the resources to do the dump to increase the supply in the market. That's the one disadvantage of crypto, whales and bears can manipulate the market to the scenario that they want.