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Title: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 27, 2018, 09:08:49 AM Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still).
I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: Astargath on November 27, 2018, 09:37:48 AM How do you merit twice exactly? Did you press send 2 times in a row fast or what? You better start losing some weight with those clunky fingers.
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 27, 2018, 09:41:09 AM How do you merit twice exactly? Did you press send 2 times in a row fast or what? You better start losing some weight with those clunky fingers. I just click a second time because I thought that I miss the first click, but I was wrong. Anyway the guy deserved the merit so no big deal, but there was a case a month(s) ago with a guy who send 40 instead of 20, there is a difference for sure. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: Jet Cash on November 27, 2018, 09:44:37 AM A cool down period would be a nightmare for me - I need to click and run to look for ther next guy when I'm in my merit shower mode. :)
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 27, 2018, 09:48:41 AM A cool down period would be a nightmare for me - I need to click and run to look for ther next guy when I'm in my merit shower mode. :) We are talking about a second or two here, not a minute. Are you sure you are that fast? I know LoyceV has some skills in meriting multiple people in a short time (if I remember correctly) so he can be more affected by this but I really doubt that it will be a so big issue. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: LoyceV on November 27, 2018, 09:53:30 AM No, please don't :P Just don't double click that button :D
Are you sure you are that fast? I know LoyceV has some skills in meriting multiple people in a short time (if I remember correctly) so he can be more affected by this but I really doubt that it will be a so big issue. Jet Cash is right, time delays are annoying. The 4 second delay on reporting posts is a huge pain already.I usually click the Merit-button with my middle mouse, which opens a new tab, and continue reading. When I'm done, I merit all open tabs, like this: My record is 4 in a second: Code: October 13, 2018, 10:18:22 AM: 1 to Indamuck for Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam I recently matched my 4-in-a-second record again: Code: November 17, 2018, 12:38:43 PM: 1 to DarkStar_ for Re: LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Roller Coaster #2 I've just tested how fast I can click the "Send" button. I can hit it 3 times before getting this: Quote An Error Has Occurred! A simple fix would be to have a small time delay before you can merit the same post again.You cannot send merit to yourself For reference: I made this list a long time ago: Occasions where the same user merited the same post twice at the exact same time It happens less than once per day.26 posts received the same number of Merit from the same user in the same second. This is caused by double clicking (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3078328.msg31968794#msg31968794) the Send button: Two times 1 Merit from Syndikat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1175060) to undercomander13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1160144) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2308384.msg23419008#msg23419008). Two times 4 Merit from minerbro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=882756) to Piston_82 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1144425) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2699379.msg28859651#msg28859651). Two times 1 Merit from newegggo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=255511) to moonriver (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249147) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169122.msg28864339#msg28864339). Two times 4 Merit from aTriz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920) to killyou72 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=408367) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.msg28920985#msg28920985). Two times 1 Merit from johhnyUA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=623643) to Gerhald (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=381304) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818398.msg28950289#msg28950289). Two times 1 Merit from TMAN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98986) to Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827555.msg28999372#msg28999372). Two times 1 Merit from TK14 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898664) to John(JohnK.) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31288) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86804.msg953593#msg953593). Two times 1 Merit from JCbtc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=916474) to 1Referee (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=308793) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833083.msg29161886#msg29161886). Two times 1 Merit from Anna505 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1220613) to Krjkee (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1256377) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384821.msg29121875#msg29121875). Two times 1 Merit from Alluro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1170710) to Smpdytz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1250976) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2576723.msg26430918#msg26430918). Two times 1 Merit from AlexLvov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1179987) to svv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1238657) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2270173.msg28927901#msg28927901). Two times 1 Merit from williamevanl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205050) to centralbanksequalsbombs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=971594) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2865759.msg29421551#msg29421551). Two times 1 Merit from n00bby (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=954280) to Undland (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289619) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1394689.msg29508785#msg29508785). Two times 1 Merit from soy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=73590) to Becassine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1224889) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2313254.msg29604257#msg29604257). Two times 1 Merit from Dvach (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=984782) to AlexZHankok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1245858) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2846459.msg29198113#msg29198113). Two times 1 Merit from miha74 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=999197) to klim75 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1687608) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2202817.msg29758214#msg29758214). Two times 6 Merit from pisston (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864139) to ckorbba (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864125) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2674919.msg29093646#msg29093646). Two times 1 Merit from sheamus10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1034862) to Asyifiah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=735497) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255748.msg30112467#msg30112467). Two times 5 Merit from SmartIphone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374823) to vlad230 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1268116) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2891680.msg29727954#msg29727954). Two times 5 Merit from SmartIphone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374823) to hugeblack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1059082) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2808477.msg28740279#msg28740279). Two times 5 Merit from SmartIphone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374823) to 01BTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1756786) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2873190.msg29505423#msg29505423). Two times 2 Merit from mellorbo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=124041) to zzxswqq (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2439) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2239458.msg30329191#msg30329191). Two times 5 Merit from julian071 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393354) to BTCMILLIONAIRE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=387921) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg30439376#msg30439376). Two times 1 Merit from siti25 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=870185) to vlad230 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1268116) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2770113.msg29460268#msg29460268). Two times 1 Merit from teddy5145 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513960) to marlboroza (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2970226.msg30532767#msg30532767). Two times 1 Merit from aTriz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920) to Craige288 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147040) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009408.msg30941866#msg30941866). Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: Jet Cash on November 27, 2018, 09:59:04 AM >..< That makes my "merit shower" sound more like a dribble. I doubt if I could manage more than 2 in a second. :) Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 27, 2018, 10:36:47 AM OK then, it could be a option to toggle it on and off. So everyone are satisfied, except theymos because he is the one to implement it. :D
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: LTU_btc on November 27, 2018, 11:06:14 AM I have a bit different idea. Make Merits reversible. Give for example 5 minutes to cancel Merit that you sent. Something similar like Gmail have - you can delete emails after you sent - you have 10, 20 or 30 seconds to do that. Why not to do same thing with Merit. It really happens some times that user gives Merit twice, gives 10 merit instead of 1 or just Merit wrong user.
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: stompix on November 27, 2018, 01:40:40 PM I have a bit different idea. Make Merits reversible. Give for example 5 minutes to cancel Merit that you sent. Something similar like Gmail have - you can delete emails after you sent - you have 10, 20 or 30 seconds to do that. Why not to do same thing with Merit. It really happens some times that user gives Merit twice, gives 10 merit instead of 1 or just Merit wrong user. What will happen if the guy that received the Merit already has 0.5 smerits and now it gives it away? Will also this transaction get reversed? What happens if there are two links in this chain already? It might lead to some serious abuse. And I don't see Theymos implementing it just because Iasenko here is so generous on giving it away ;D ;D @LoyceV, no comment. :o Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: manfredmann on November 27, 2018, 02:30:04 PM An extra merit would not hurt you from giving it if you have more merits to give. Though I still support your suggestion about the cool down on giving the merit to a user. But in your case, it will not hurt you OP to give more for I believe that you have more smerits left. And best thing about now is to help every user to learn more about and motivate them. A little merit will be big help to a user whose endeavor is on cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: hugeblack on November 27, 2018, 03:10:27 PM Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still). There was a suggestion about the negative merit or de-merit, it does not matter the label but you can delete it in the future as there might be such a feature.I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes. There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though. If the user deserves one merit, doubling that number would be an additional incentive and motivation for more posts. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 27, 2018, 03:22:33 PM Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still). I was just going to say I did this recently for a post by buwaytress, but I was wrong. It was 2 different posts of his in the same thread that I merited. I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes. However, I've made this mistake before, and it sucks when you're running low on sMerits. I have what I'd call a nervous internet motor tic that makes me keep reloading pages. Not sure if anyone else is afflicted with this disorder, but I think when you give a merit and then reload the page, it gives the merit out again. I guess I haven't done it in a while, but I did it at least once when the merit system was new. And yeah, it's a glitch that I do think needs some sort of fixing. Theymos ought to come up with a good solution if he deems the problem serious enough (which he probably won't). We'll see. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: suchmoon on November 27, 2018, 03:35:30 PM First world problems.
The much bigger issue is that stupid zero in the merit box. Why is it there? It's not like we can send zero merits. So EVERY TIME I need to waste my precious 0.1s to delete that zero or fight my shaky hands to place the cursor behind it before entering the actual amount. Worse yet, the box is not focused when the window opens so I've been very close to accidentally sending 40 merits instead of 4 when I click the wrong part of the box and the cursor ends up in front of the zero. We should just scrap the merit system, it's hopelessly broken. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: LoyceV on November 27, 2018, 03:55:16 PM I think when you give a merit and then reload the page, it gives the merit out again. This has been reported before, but when I test it, my browser just asks me if I want to submit the same thing again.The much bigger issue is that stupid zero in the merit box. Why is it there? It's not like we can send zero merits. So EVERY TIME I need to waste my precious 0.1s to delete that zero or fight my shaky hands to place the cursor behind it before entering the actual amount. Worse yet, the box is not focused when the window opens so I've been very close to accidentally sending 40 merits instead of 4 when I click the wrong part of the box and the cursor ends up in front of the zero. Now that I can relate to! I'm always afraid I'll have to add a note in my reputation thread explaining why I merited a post with 10 times more than I wanted. So far, it hasn't happened to me.Quote We should just scrap the merit system, it's hopelessly broken. You got me there for a moment :DTitle: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: Bitze on November 27, 2018, 03:57:05 PM First world problems. The much bigger issue is that stupid zero in the merit box. Why is it there? It's not like we can send zero merits. So EVERY TIME I need to waste my precious 0.1s to delete that zero or fight my shaky hands to place the cursor behind it before entering the actual amount. Worse yet, the box is not focused when the window opens so I've been very close to accidentally sending 40 merits instead of 4 when I click the wrong part of the box and the cursor ends up in front of the zero. We should just scrap the merit system, it's hopelessly broken. yes, i see that as a big problem. so 1 could quickly turn into 10. i would appreciate it if the focus is in the field and no value is entered there by default. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: acarli on November 27, 2018, 05:19:11 PM This happened to me twice before. For some reason I didn't think the button worked, so I clicked it twice. I guess it's a habit. I never have too many smerits at one time, so I usually give away 1 or maybe 2 at a time. This didn't bother me.
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: jointherevolution on November 27, 2018, 07:14:41 PM I am baffled as to how this happens but a merit slowdown or cool down would not be a bad idea. Not much would change for users who do not have a lot of merits and if there is a problem among the users who have a lot of merits then why not?
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: mazdafunsun on November 28, 2018, 08:47:41 PM Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still). I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes. Agree, I have made this mistake in the past at least once,wasnt aware that others do it aswell :D This would be usefull feature. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 28, 2018, 09:08:55 PM User error.
Might as well add a captcha for sending merit so you don't accidentally submit the same form twice. It's amazing you're not constantly double or triple posting! Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: jackg on November 28, 2018, 11:06:53 PM OK then, it could be a option to toggle it on and off. So everyone are satisfied, except theymos because he is the one to implement it. :D Loyce's solution also wasn't great because then it'd stop me going "that post was worth two merit not one: ctrl+r" ;D. I do like that for when I get excited by a post (I don't do it for all the multiples but there was one a while ago when I thought, one was a bit stingey maybe I should refresh and give them two)? Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: LTU_btc on November 28, 2018, 11:43:07 PM What will happen if the guy that received the Merit already has 0.5 smerits and now it gives it away? Oh, I didn't thought about sMerits when I posted this suggestion. Thanks for showing that my idea was stupid :DWill also this transaction get reversed? What happens if there are two links in this chain already? It might lead to some serious abuse. And, yeah, there are some more important things to do on Bitcointalk than solve this double spent Merit issue. This thing is just one of the first world problems. User error. I hope you're kidding about captcha for sending Merit...Might as well add a captcha for sending merit so you don't accidentally submit the same form twice. It's amazing you're not constantly double or triple posting! Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: mazdafunsun on November 29, 2018, 12:19:17 PM It's amazing you're not constantly double or triple posting! i dont think that it is even possible, if the post is already posted then error is showsn that it has been done. Correct me if i am wrong. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: r1s2g3 on November 29, 2018, 06:44:25 PM @OP
Might be theymos is not worried at all if you send double merits because merit circulation is low. In fact he encourage merit sources to send more to deserving post if they have difficulty in exhausting their source quota. By sending double , if you got exhausted of your sMerits then this thread by suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031461) will help you. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: jackg on November 29, 2018, 07:01:13 PM @OP Might be theymos is not worried at all if you send double merits because merit circulation is low. In fact he encourage merit sources to send more to deserving post if they have difficulty in exhausting their source quota. By sending double , if you got exhausted of your sMerits then this thread by suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031461) will help you. That’s true, theymos wanted to get merit circulation to increase and fee,s it’s low himself at the moment. I need to try to make myself more comfortable with draining myself of smerits entirely... but that’s going to be difficult. Double tapping on 10 and sending 20 isn’t actually all that bad. You’re not supposed to be hoarding smerit anyway (although I like to keep the numbe high I have to say I’m my own page for some reason)... Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 29, 2018, 07:27:46 PM I don't hold my sMerit, but my intention is to give it to different people. Of course it's not easy, and I don't see a good posts everyday but giving one to two people is a bit better than 2 merit to one person. You gonna say, yeah but those two create 1 more, sure they think about the other users.
Often people are willing to give merit to those who have already received one ( two, because this changed a bit after the new rules for sure) by just checking the merited posts in the history and they feel more comfortable to give their merit in a way they are not wasted on spammers. Sure but those who have 0 ( or 1 ) have more difficulties to cross the border and earn more merit. I try to go trough the newbie users history before I reward a merit in the same time i'm giving merit to more established members too trying to be around 50/50 (but it's not unfortunately). I'm not a source (yet :P) so every single point matters for someone and changes the way the others see him. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: glenntalbot on November 30, 2018, 03:55:44 AM I propose that threads or posts have a limit of merits(like 10) since it's not fair that some threads have 1 trillion of merits and other good posts not a single one :-\
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: suchmoon on November 30, 2018, 04:13:57 AM other good posts not a single one I have scientifically proved (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031461) that there is no such thing. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: glenntalbot on November 30, 2018, 04:57:17 AM other good posts not a single one I have scientifically proved (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031461) that there is no such thing. nice clickbait bro ;D... still lots of good posts with no merits Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 30, 2018, 10:19:24 AM other good posts not a single one I have scientifically proved (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031461) that there is no such thing. nice clickbait bro ;D... still lots of good posts with no merits Then be a good Samaritan and do the following when ever you see those good posts you speak of. Send me a personal message (PM) with a subject "Post deserves merit" and a link to a post that needs merit and a brief explanation why you think so. If I have spare time and spare merits I may review it and decide to merit it.
who can gives merit there is a specific list ? No, there's no specific list, any member of the forum having at least 1smerit can send them. After the airdrop of merits/smerits, for new users to have smerit to send out, they must have received 2merits from another user When you receive smerit, it shows as merit and gives you smerits (which are spendable) visit thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0\) for better understanding Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: slasi1974 on November 30, 2018, 01:12:01 PM who can gives merit there is a specific list ? Mostly forums gives these type of powers who have good and healthy contribution to the forum and very limited people can do that maybe 5 to 10 moderators or admins
Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 30, 2018, 02:23:58 PM who can gives merit there is a specific list ? Mostly forums gives these type of powers who have good and healthy contribution to the forum and very limited people can do that maybe 5 to 10 moderators or admins Everyone who have a sMerit can send it. There are only 119 Merit sources who have a given supply of sMerit which is renewed every 30 day.Those merit sources are officially anonymous but there are already lists with suspected sources ;) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats There are some interesting merit stats ^ Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: suchmoon on November 30, 2018, 02:58:21 PM still lots of good posts with no merits No. There's lots of purchased accounts (http://archive.is/WDlzg#selection-919.1-919.3) with merits they never earned though. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: glenntalbot on December 01, 2018, 04:38:54 AM still lots of good posts with no merits No. There's lots of purchased accounts (http://archive.is/WDlzg#selection-919.1-919.3) with merits they never earned though. yup lots of good post with no merits... So you are judging me for being chinese... that's racism bro(not new for me) .It is weird since in this post you are criticizing the merit system too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042503.0 I want to smoke whatever you are smoking ;D ;D :D Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: suchmoon on December 01, 2018, 01:37:50 PM yup lots of good post with no merits... So you are judging me for being chinese... that's racism bro(not new for me) .It is weird since in this post you are criticizing the merit system too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042503.0 I want to smoke whatever you are smoking ;D ;D :D I'm judging you for buying (or hacking) the account. There is not such race as "account buyer" so knock that shit off. Title: Re: Cool down time after sending a Merit. Post by: friends1980 on December 01, 2018, 03:24:21 PM Every time I receive a Merit I celebrate by opening a few bottles and drinking all night long, which usually leaves me with a huge hangover.
Therefore, I would also like to propose some cool down time after receiving a Merit. |