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November 27, 2018, 09:08:49 AM
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Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still).
I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes.

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November 27, 2018, 09:37:48 AM
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How do you merit twice exactly? Did you press send 2 times in a row fast or what? You better start losing some weight with those clunky fingers.

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November 27, 2018, 09:41:09 AM
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How do you merit twice exactly? Did you press send 2 times in a row fast or what? You better start losing some weight with those clunky fingers.

I just click a second time because I thought that I miss the first click, but I was wrong. Anyway the guy deserved the merit so no big deal, but there was a case a month(s) ago with a guy who send 40 instead of 20, there is a difference for sure.

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November 27, 2018, 09:44:37 AM
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A cool down period would be a nightmare for me - I need to click and run to look for ther next guy when I'm in my merit shower mode. Smiley

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November 27, 2018, 09:48:41 AM
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A cool down period would be a nightmare for me - I need to click and run to look for ther next guy when I'm in my merit shower mode. Smiley

We are talking about a second or two here, not a minute. Are you sure you are that fast? I know LoyceV has some skills in meriting multiple people in a short time (if I remember correctly) so he can be more affected by this but I really doubt that it will be a so big issue. 

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November 27, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
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No, please don't Tongue Just don't double click that button Cheesy

Are you sure you are that fast? I know LoyceV has some skills in meriting multiple people in a short time (if I remember correctly) so he can be more affected by this but I really doubt that it will be a so big issue.
Jet Cash is right, time delays are annoying. The 4 second delay on reporting posts is a huge pain already.

I usually click the Merit-button with my middle mouse, which opens a new tab, and continue reading. When I'm done, I merit all open tabs, like this:
My record is 4 in a second:
Code:
October 13, 2018, 10:18:22 AM: 1 to Indamuck for Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam
October 13, 2018, 10:18:22 AM: 1 to audaciousbeing for Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam
October 13, 2018, 10:18:22 AM: 1 to figmentofmyass for Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam
October 13, 2018, 10:18:22 AM: 1 to KonstantinosM for Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam

I recently matched my 4-in-a-second record again:
Code:
November 17, 2018, 12:38:43 PM: 1 to DarkStar_ for Re: LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Roller Coaster #2
November 17, 2018, 12:38:43 PM: 1 to HCP for Re: LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Roller Coaster #2
November 17, 2018, 12:38:43 PM: 1 to KingZee for Re: LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Roller Coaster #2
November 17, 2018, 12:38:43 PM: 1 to KingZee for Re: LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Roller Coaster #2
I'm now trying to hit 5. Please don't add delays!



I've just tested how fast I can click the "Send" button. I can hit it 3 times before getting this:
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An Error Has Occurred!
You cannot send merit to yourself
A simple fix would be to have a small time delay before you can merit the same post again.



For reference: I made this list a long time ago:
Occasions where the same user merited the same post twice at the exact same time
26 posts received the same number of Merit from the same user in the same second. This is caused by double clicking the Send button:
Two times 1 Merit from Syndikat to undercomander13 for this post.
Two times 4 Merit from minerbro to Piston_82 for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from newegggo to moonriver for this post.
Two times 4 Merit from aTriz to killyou72 for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from johhnyUA to Gerhald for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from TMAN to Lauda for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from TK14 to John(JohnK.) for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from JCbtc to 1Referee for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from Anna505 to Krjkee for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from Alluro to Smpdytz for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from AlexLvov to svv for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from williamevanl to centralbanksequalsbombs for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from n00bby to Undland for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from soy to Becassine for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from Dvach to AlexZHankok for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from miha74 to klim75 for this post.
Two times 6 Merit from pisston to ckorbba for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from sheamus10 to Asyifiah for this post.
Two times 5 Merit from SmartIphone to vlad230 for this post.
Two times 5 Merit from SmartIphone to hugeblack for this post.
Two times 5 Merit from SmartIphone to 01BTC for this post.
Two times 2 Merit from mellorbo to zzxswqq for this post.
Two times 5 Merit from julian071 to BTCMILLIONAIRE for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from siti25 to vlad230 for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from teddy5145 to marlboroza for this post.
Two times 1 Merit from aTriz to Craige288 for this post.
It happens less than once per day.

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November 27, 2018, 09:59:04 AM
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That makes my "merit shower" sound more like a dribble. I doubt if I could manage more than 2 in a second. Smiley

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November 27, 2018, 10:36:47 AM
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OK then, it could be a option to toggle it on and off. So everyone are satisfied, except theymos because he is the one to implement it. Cheesy


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November 27, 2018, 11:06:14 AM
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I have a bit different idea. Make Merits reversible. Give for example 5 minutes to cancel Merit that you sent. Something similar like Gmail have - you can delete emails after you sent - you have 10, 20 or 30 seconds to do that. Why not to do same thing with Merit. It really happens some times that user gives Merit twice, gives 10 merit instead of 1 or just Merit wrong user.

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November 27, 2018, 01:40:40 PM
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I have a bit different idea. Make Merits reversible. Give for example 5 minutes to cancel Merit that you sent. Something similar like Gmail have - you can delete emails after you sent - you have 10, 20 or 30 seconds to do that. Why not to do same thing with Merit. It really happens some times that user gives Merit twice, gives 10 merit instead of 1 or just Merit wrong user.

What will happen if the guy that received the Merit already has 0.5 smerits and now it gives it away?
Will also this transaction get reversed? What happens if there are two links in this chain already?

It might lead to some serious abuse.
And I don't see Theymos implementing it just because Iasenko here is so generous on giving it away  Grin Grin

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An extra merit would not hurt you from giving it if you have more merits to give. Though I still support your suggestion about the cool down on giving the merit to a user. But in your case, it will not hurt you OP to give more for I believe that you have more smerits left. And best thing about now is to help every user to learn more about and motivate them. A little merit will be big help to a user whose endeavor is on cryptocurrency.
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November 27, 2018, 03:10:27 PM
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Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still).
I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes.
There was a suggestion about the negative merit or de-merit, it does not matter the label but you can delete it in the future as there might be such a feature.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

If the user deserves one merit, doubling that number would be an additional incentive and motivation for more posts.

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November 27, 2018, 03:22:33 PM
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Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still).
I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes.
I was just going to say I did this recently for a post by buwaytress, but I was wrong.  It was 2 different posts of his in the same thread that I merited. 

However, I've made this mistake before, and it sucks when you're running low on sMerits.  I have what I'd call a nervous internet motor tic that makes me keep reloading pages.  Not sure if anyone else is afflicted with this disorder, but I think when you give a merit and then reload the page, it gives the merit out again.  I guess I haven't done it in a while, but I did it at least once when the merit system was new.

And yeah, it's a glitch that I do think needs some sort of fixing.  Theymos ought to come up with a good solution if he deems the problem serious enough (which he probably won't).  We'll see.

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November 27, 2018, 03:35:30 PM
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First world problems.

The much bigger issue is that stupid zero in the merit box. Why is it there? It's not like we can send zero merits. So EVERY TIME I need to waste my precious 0.1s to delete that zero or fight my shaky hands to place the cursor behind it before entering the actual amount. Worse yet, the box is not focused when the window opens so I've been very close to accidentally sending 40 merits instead of 4 when I click the wrong part of the box and the cursor ends up in front of the zero.

We should just scrap the merit system, it's hopelessly broken.

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November 27, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
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I think when you give a merit and then reload the page, it gives the merit out again.
This has been reported before, but when I test it, my browser just asks me if I want to submit the same thing again.

The much bigger issue is that stupid zero in the merit box. Why is it there? It's not like we can send zero merits. So EVERY TIME I need to waste my precious 0.1s to delete that zero or fight my shaky hands to place the cursor behind it before entering the actual amount. Worse yet, the box is not focused when the window opens so I've been very close to accidentally sending 40 merits instead of 4 when I click the wrong part of the box and the cursor ends up in front of the zero.
Now that I can relate to! I'm always afraid I'll have to add a note in my reputation thread explaining why I merited a post with 10 times more than I wanted. So far, it hasn't happened to me.

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First world problems.

The much bigger issue is that stupid zero in the merit box. Why is it there? It's not like we can send zero merits. So EVERY TIME I need to waste my precious 0.1s to delete that zero or fight my shaky hands to place the cursor behind it before entering the actual amount. Worse yet, the box is not focused when the window opens so I've been very close to accidentally sending 40 merits instead of 4 when I click the wrong part of the box and the cursor ends up in front of the zero.

We should just scrap the merit system, it's hopelessly broken.



yes, i see that as a big problem. so 1 could quickly turn into 10.
i would appreciate it if the focus is in the field and no value is entered there by default.
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This happened to me twice before. For some reason I didn't think the button worked, so I clicked it twice. I guess it's a habit. I never have too many smerits at one time, so I usually give away 1 or maybe 2 at a time. This didn't bother me.

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November 27, 2018, 07:14:41 PM
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I am baffled as to how this happens but a merit slowdown or cool down would not be a bad idea. Not much would change for users who do not have a lot of merits and if there is a problem among the users who have a lot of merits then why not?

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November 28, 2018, 08:47:41 PM
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Just happen to again a few days ago, I merited twice in a matter of a second (it was only 1 merit extra but still).
I know this has been discussed before, but since nothing has changed I just suggest to add a 1 second (or 2) cool down time after sending, just to avoid such mistakes.


Agree, I have made this mistake in the past at least once,wasnt aware that others do it aswell Cheesy
This would be usefull feature.

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User error.

Might as well add a captcha for sending merit so you don't accidentally submit the same form twice.

It's amazing you're not constantly double or triple posting!

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