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Title: You don't have to HODL
Post by: trapatalce on December 17, 2018, 03:56:23 AM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Zero1One0 on December 17, 2018, 04:17:52 AM
I sort of agree. Glad I pulled the trigger and sold at a loss within Q1 to Q2.
Small losses turns to bigger losses if they are not managed.

Now I can buy back more  of what I sold ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 17, 2018, 04:29:15 AM
We do have different advising techniques and this depends on the person that will be asked on what they should do.

When the all time high is at hand, people are very happy and glad that they've been holding. Now, every single act that people do is about stupidity and ignorance, hold, selling at loss, day trading, do on where you are good with and comfortable.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: sh4dtechnr on December 17, 2018, 04:30:26 AM
Hold strategy always works, but it should be done reasonably. I know many did not sell their crypto assets on the obvious pump (end 2017), and continued to "hodl" around. That is very stupid, and for sure they very much regret it.
And, vice versa, I know many early Bitcoin investors and miners sold most of their assets for $ 1,000-1,500, thinking that this is the peak, but the price reached $ 20,000.
It is very difficult even for advanced players to determine the best time for purchases / sales.
With the current market situation, I think it's too late to sell, and now you need to buy and hold.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Mt. Dempo on December 17, 2018, 04:42:06 AM
if we experience a loss and the asset value continues to decline, do we have to sell at a loss? I don't think so and I personally don't want to lose twice. indeed there are many people who misinterpret it, but that doesn't mean the hodl is a bad choice.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Irvinn on December 17, 2018, 04:56:44 AM
In general, this is true. It will be wrong to hope that our coins and tokens will constantly grow in value, and therefore you only need to keep them and then we will be happy. It can be said that a cryptocurrency also has its own period of formation, development and growth, stabilization, followed by a possible fall if it does not maintain its competitiveness. It is always necessary to take into account and make on time and the right decisions in the market. Here you can not give general advice on how to act in one way or another. We have different life circumstances and it is they who dictate how to act in this or that case.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Snaic on December 17, 2018, 06:09:47 AM
Of course, only the retention of cryptocurrency for a long time does not always bring long-awaited results. This year, many should have been convinced of this. If possible, you should use the price fluctuation of the cryptocurrency market. It is very suitable for this, given the high price volatility of cryptocurrency. If someone does not have time to keep track of the constant market fluctuations, it is advisable to do this even with large and significant rises and falls of our specific coins and tokens. This will be much more effective than regular long-term retention.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Igor.J on December 17, 2018, 06:12:21 AM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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The holding is often compatible with greed, many understand that there is already a profit, but continue to hold, thinking that growth will continue. But the smarter ones take the bulk off, leaving little to reduce the risk of loss.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: labilaab on December 17, 2018, 06:23:48 AM
Nicely explained there.Its really a great help and aid for the newbies in crypto to be not misleaded by the word HODL. Before, when Im still new to crypto, I used to be mileaded by this advice also but I am somehow matured and not ignorant for holding specific project.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: ityandsyn on December 17, 2018, 06:45:46 AM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.


       Everyone have the right to say as we have different strategy for holding whether short-term or a long-term holding and some of them are already rich for that simple strategy and even the full-time traders are doing that strategy but anyway that's your opinion and we have to respect .


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Andruha1993 on December 17, 2018, 07:24:30 AM
I also do not understand why many people advise hodl for a long time. I used to hodl until the time when the price suited me and then sold. But now I don’t see any sense in hodl any coins. Because in my opinion already such a time that they practically do not grow, but either stand in the price of one place or fall strongly in price.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: brixbounty on December 17, 2018, 07:36:48 AM
HODL is a generic term and in my opinion it implies that you should keep your coins until you make a profit. In all other respects, you should think independently and constantly analyze the market. If you bought Bitcoin for $20k and suffer losses,then you only have the HODL. If you bought bitcoin for $1, then you even now have a huge profit.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: elloco4ever on December 17, 2018, 07:38:24 AM
We do have different advising techniques and this depends on the person that will be asked on what they should do.

When the all time high is at hand, people are very happy and glad that they've been holding. Now, every single act that people do is about stupidity and ignorance, hold, selling at loss, day trading, do on where you are good with and comfortable.

Exactly, this is what happening right now. The market is inconsistent just think about the small investors? Do you they will plan for long-term in this tough situation? Like you said holdings depends on the person.

Those are desperately in the need of money will surely sell to avoid further loss, like something is better than nothing.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Abosede on December 17, 2018, 08:07:55 AM
Do you think spreading uncertainty about the future of bitcoin is the right advice,doing that will only do more harm to the crypto space.We need to be optimistic to be able to bring back the good days of crypto and that can only be achieve by not selling out of panic thereby allowing whales to benefit from that.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: inoes on December 17, 2018, 08:17:45 AM
Do you think spreading uncertainty about the future of bitcoin is the right advice,doing that will only do more harm to the crypto space.We need to be optimistic to be able to bring back the good days of crypto and that can only be achieve by not selling out of panic thereby allowing whales to benefit from that.

and unfortunately everyone doesn't understand how to not have unreasonable predictions
this mess might have caused some people to panic and lose control that made them a little wild


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 17, 2018, 08:25:55 AM
We do have different advising techniques and this depends on the person that will be asked on what they should do.

When the all time high is at hand, people are very happy and glad that they've been holding. Now, every single act that people do is about stupidity and ignorance, hold, selling at loss, day trading, do on where you are good with and comfortable.

Exactly, this is what happening right now. The market is inconsistent just think about the small investors? Do you they will plan for long-term in this tough situation? Like you said holdings depends on the person.

Those are desperately in the need of money will surely sell to avoid further loss, like something is better than nothing.
Not only those that need money will start selling but those who don't have anymore confidence to the market.

They are the people that already lost their trust to the market and already given up that it will not be better. If you don't have to hold then don't hold, simple as that but flaming HODLING and blaming people who have been saying to hold, it's wrong IMO.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Ryananda on December 17, 2018, 08:27:09 AM
if the price continues to fall, hold is not a good choice, it is better to save assets in the form of only the currency, and wait for the increase in our new price chart for purchases, because we all do not want to lose while waiting.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: faisaladitya on December 17, 2018, 08:46:27 AM
In my opinion. holding it is necessary if conditions are not favorable for us. people hold coins because prices are too cheap. if we do not hold and force the will to sell, we will suffer losses.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Strotman on December 17, 2018, 09:02:19 AM
If a person asks for advice on what strategy to choose-this means that he does not have the necessary knowledge in the cryptocurrency industry. The advice in this situation is: "start to study the materials on the subject of the question to get the necessary answers."


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: signup01 on December 17, 2018, 02:11:28 PM
I will definitely hold back, because I want to get the benefits I want. the problem is by holding it to determine the price of coins when selling coins that can determine profits


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: sempak on December 17, 2018, 02:12:34 PM
now it all depends on you. hold or not is your choice. because right now when the market goes down all depends on whether you want to hold or not I myself prefer to determine the number that is suitable for me to hold and when to sell it


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: starplaks on December 17, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
In principle, everything is true ... Everyone should choose what he himself is comfortable and convenient, and most importantly, what he thinks will bring him a profit!


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: bob3772 on December 17, 2018, 02:15:37 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.


HODL is one of my least favourite phrases and it is in my opinion a negative thing for crypto. It makes many people think that people hold just because they're told to and it's similar to many illegitimate schemes. As you rightly said, it's much better to tell people proper and full advice. If that is hold, explain why.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: tuanytcc on December 17, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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As I know, in this market there are two purpose for holding. One, they are really interested about technology of this coin and believe it will solve real issue after that, but this one is very small. The rest is people who want to earn the profit which they have set


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: paradigmaV on December 17, 2018, 02:35:17 PM
I am sure that everyone should have their own strategy. You can evaluate the potential of the project and determine for yourself the price at which the coins can be sold. Of course, everything is cyclical. And if the price grows strongly, then it will definitely fall, and it’s not a fact that it will rise again to the top level. But many are waiting for a miracle (x1000) and this is their choice.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Cianix on December 17, 2018, 03:48:04 PM
I think hold only works in the bullish market , as well as this strategy is very unprofitable for me, you need to be able to trade in the market to make money , and hodl only makes go to the big minus


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: alex_kir on December 17, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
In any case, the decision is made directly by the person, so I would probably rather say that the person is not in a hurry with the conclusions, because it seems to me that there are very real risks to the deposit that the investor bears before he starts selling his deposit again.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Lwtelencio on December 17, 2018, 03:53:50 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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well everything does really depends on the results which led us to what we are now. I think you are right in terms on researching on our own.Hodl is much used term for now and we should be embrace by it for now.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: anatolij.shishkin on December 17, 2018, 03:58:26 PM

What can be said to a person who has lost 90% of his investment. Do you think the sale is correct? And I'm not in such situations, it is better to do a long hold. Of course, if your portfolio consisted only of BTC and ETH in your case, you will be able to multiply your capital waiting for the lowest price. But Hold is also the right strategy.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: rosezionjohn on December 17, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
This is just my observation.

Many actually do not want to hodl but are forced to hodl because they are very much rekt right now and could not find a better position to sell.

Also, those who keeps saying/advising hodl are probably those who can no longer buy also and just do not want the price to any lower.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: caffu chino on December 17, 2018, 04:25:40 PM
I already know this, hold is not an option. there are times when we have to hold but sometimes sell to be the safest choice.
people misinterpret what hodl is. they think holding is lasting forever until they get a profit. this makes new investors lose


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mr.robot8 on December 17, 2018, 04:56:47 PM

i believe that i will hold for long time i do not want to sell anything at a loss, but maybe an alternative there it is change everything in a stable coin from which it is easier to manage market changes


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: aris av on December 17, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
When I have an urgent need, I will sell, but if I can still meet the needs of using the reserve money I have, then I will not sell low and keep holding until the market can recover.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Bttzed03 on December 17, 2018, 05:32:23 PM
It is definitely a popular advise given to those in panic. It is a good strategy but it is not the best strategy all the time. I agree on OP's position to give real advise instead of just "HODL!". We should be able to know which one is the better option (sell or hodl) at a particular time.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: izanagi narukami on December 17, 2018, 05:38:51 PM
Hold until you've reach your loss tolerance, every people have different loss tolerance ,right ?
I know it's not easy to do it but remember that crypto value extremely volatile from time to time so you must make sure that you've done perfect calculation.

When I have an urgent need, I will sell, but if I can still meet the needs of using the reserve money I have, then I will not sell low and keep holding until the market can recover.

Bitcoin has decrease 45% within a month, IMO it's a huge percentage so you need to make loss tolerance max 10%


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: aprilnot on December 17, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
I agree with this, hold must be seen from the situation. when you buy below you have to hold. but if you buy while on top, hold is not an option because it's definitely a bad choice. not always hold a good choice, sometimes we have to sell.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: other_side on December 17, 2018, 06:15:50 PM
I think it is important for them to hold and how long. For risky investors, this is a huge risk for them, because they spend all their money to invest, but it is not profitable but is losing more and more. But if the holders can hold their investment until 2020. I believe they will reap a lot of success.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: andrejka on December 17, 2018, 06:29:29 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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HODL means patience and patience is obtained only by wise men and has nothing to do with stupidity and ignorance. They say the market always rewards the patient ones. Patient is the main secret of all today's billionaires. Thus we can say that HODL equals your future fortune. So stop writing nonsense and continue to HODL!  ;D Otherwise sell off all your crypto assets, fix the losses and leave the market forever. If you are so manipulated...


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: nik9990 on December 17, 2018, 06:36:33 PM
I think that now the best strategy is to buy and keep coins to a higher price.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Bonwin on December 17, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
I have always known that language "hodl" to be very common in the crypto space. When someone tells you hold, what you should do is think twice, because it might not work if you follow it strictly.
Even if you intend hodling, i am sure you would want to make profit. So sell while you're in profit, because cryptocurrency us volatile.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: 714 on December 17, 2018, 10:24:34 PM
if we experience a loss and the asset value continues to decline, do we have to sell at a loss? I don't think so and I personally don't want to lose twice. indeed there are many people who misinterpret it, but that doesn't mean the hodl is a bad choice.
It is difficult to determine the right time to buy and sell. After many loses, I think that everyone should set the level of profit and risk reasonable acceptable. This will help them avoid big losses.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Perkovic on December 17, 2018, 10:27:02 PM
Of course, you must keep a cryptocurrency in order to make money on it, but be sure to fix your profits


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: taguig on December 17, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
You have a point, every investment should have a goal behind it, you must know your exit point for profit and your entry point for future profit, it's no use holding a your coin for years and missing profit, when the right time to sell comes, sell high then buy low again that is a good strategy.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Elysio on December 17, 2018, 10:40:12 PM
I'm not a fan of selling. The best option is to hold in the bear  market. These prices sell completely nonsense.  I'm standing in the altcoins and I don't regret standing in them. In the near future the market will rise, altcoins will rise further.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Ultimist on December 17, 2018, 10:48:06 PM
People continue to advise using HODL strategy based on the experience of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. We can see what this strategy has led to for those who have used it. I Hawes to say that there is nothing bad, just worth considering that it may not be suitable for all coins. Only a few of them will be able to survive in such a market and will grow in value several times. Therefore, you should conduct your own research to identify which coin is capable of it, and which is not. And based on this, choose your strategy for each coin.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Handalger on December 17, 2018, 10:52:11 PM
I think that now the best strategy is to buy and keep coins to a higher price.
I agree now the price is very good for shopping , and I think I can buy very quietly at this level and store in the long, I'm sure that in the future there will be a very large cryptocurrency in the top 20 !


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Eildosa on December 17, 2018, 10:57:10 PM
Everyone advises HODLing because the market situation is very bad now and they hope that soon it will change. If you sell everything now, you may miss the profit. But I believe that this strategy can be used by those who do not have financial problems. Who can continue to live without fear that his portfolio continues to decline in value. If you need money, you can leave now. But you have to make that decision own.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: evanescence on December 17, 2018, 11:20:49 PM
People continue to advise using HODL strategy based on the experience of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. We can see what this strategy has led to for those who have used it. I Hawes to say that there is nothing bad, just worth considering that it may not be suitable for all coins. Only a few of them will be able to survive in such a market and will grow in value several times. Therefore, you should conduct your own research to identify which coin is capable of it, and which is not. And based on this, choose your strategy for each coin.
People don't advise using HODL out of generousity.
They tell that to newbies so that their bags don't lose further value.
People telling you to hold care about themselves, not you!


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: tuvic01 on December 17, 2018, 11:26:58 PM
I think the best thing to do at this stage is to hold on to your  coins. selling off will bring you down and make you loose all ur token.so the best thing to do is hold and even buy more tokens if need there is power to do so. And that remains the best thing to do


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: chenczane on December 17, 2018, 11:30:45 PM
It depends if you are happy with the price. Hodling are for those people who wants to earn more and not happy with the price. If you are satisfied, you can immediately sell it. No one has the right to stop you from selling your coin. At the end of the day, it is only you who can decide if you were going to hold or sell. The best thing to do right now is to BUY considering how cheap the prices are. You can settle for short term or long term trade depending on your needs.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: automail on December 18, 2018, 02:58:28 AM
I disagree. Why would I sell at such a super low price? Its not that I need the capital but the price is too low to even consider selling it. I think its much better to encourage people to buy coins than telling them to sell their valued coin. It depends on the coin you were hodling though, its best to have a top tier coin to ensure quality and appreciation rate.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: aioc on December 18, 2018, 03:12:39 AM
You are an idiot if you will continue to hodl until the token you are holding has no value at all, there should be a specific amount or profit before you let go of the token you are holding hodling does not mean you are going to hold until the end, it should be when you need your profit or the token is not performing well anymore.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mbah on December 18, 2018, 03:16:31 AM
if we experience a loss and the asset value continues to decline, do we have to sell at a loss? I don't think so and I personally don't want to lose twice. indeed there are many people who misinterpret it, but that doesn't mean the hodl is a bad choice.
Indeed it may hold is not bad but this makes a lot of people just never survive and become weak hands to their coins. many who hold but do not know when they will await the outcome of the matter. much of the increase that occurred even though it is not great and it was pretty wasted. Although the strategy spelled out but hold also be wrong because it is too focused on it without any satisfaction or the desired clarity.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: martabaktelor on December 18, 2018, 03:24:10 AM
The hold is a simple attitude to get profits when prices have recovered or gone up. Indeed, not always Hold coins can be profitable because not all coins can grow well. But people do hold, that doesn't mean they don't trade daily or invest. But they did that too because only with that they also made a profit.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mrcastelo on December 18, 2018, 03:27:56 AM
I think HODL is only good if you are able to buy in a very cheap price and the price goes slightly lower than whatyou bought. But if you bought at the all time high its better to sold it right away especially if the market is downtrend. or if you dont want to lose money better buy to dollar cost averaging.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Nggedebus on December 18, 2018, 03:36:20 AM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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Different people has their own way on giving suggestion, some has their short words that hard to understand that sometimes cause a misunderstanding, and others could explain in details that are easy to understand.
That also applied when those different person saying things about HODL


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Jaka.Sembuh on December 18, 2018, 03:55:25 AM
all actually depend on each other's understanding because if you do not understand how to handle hold, of course you will instead get the benefits but the more severe losses that you will get because you must be able to assess and predict the coins that you have if the coin is worth hold or not.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Beldon on December 18, 2018, 04:09:46 AM
Yes, of course we hold our coins at a certain time, for example when the market is in this condition it would be better if we hold our coins because if they sell they will lose, on the contrary if crypto is in normal condition with high coin price we can sell our coins immediately and certainly will benefit


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mummybtc on December 18, 2018, 06:04:47 AM
I know some people clamur for HODL not knowin what they are getting into and some don't even have another means of livelihood because we most people quit their jobs in the bull run and think the run will last forever, but if you have something else you can live on through the bear run and you believe you are holding good projects there is no need to panic and sell because history has shown us that the coming bull run will surpass the previous ones


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: IVEXO on December 18, 2018, 06:10:13 AM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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You are very right about the blind advices and people who just hold
But what do u expect ? Do u expect whales strangers to tell strangers to sell and cut losses ? Total impossible
Have you ever heard Mccafee or crypto currency expert give better decisions ??

Crypto currency is a personal race
Do your research yourself
Make your decision yourself


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Leenwar on December 18, 2018, 07:46:14 AM
HODL is a term that whales want people to use so they can be the last ones holding these shit coins )


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: zcashplan on December 18, 2018, 09:50:58 AM
Very agree with your point of view, only those who lose money will let other investors follow themselves, but in fact it is very dangerous. Any coin other than Bitcoin is wrong in this way, so I agree with you.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: alex_kir on December 18, 2018, 02:27:55 PM

What can be said to a person who has lost 90% of his investment. Do you think the sale is correct? And I'm not in such situations, it is better to do a long hold. Of course, if your portfolio consisted only of BTC and ETH in your case, you will be able to multiply your capital waiting for the lowest price. But Hold is also the right strategy.
HODL in any case is a strategy that has the right to life, which today, all the same, at best, can show serious success. Especially if now all of us still wait for the case when the situation can improve, especially during good news. Today there are not so many of them, but I would like to find a benefit.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: odranoel on December 18, 2018, 02:39:36 PM
Yes holding is a strategy how to manage of what you are holding. Manage because it must be in a proper and correct decision you make that you think more profit you earned and not losing. As simple as " Buy at low price and sell in high price.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Ostonian on December 18, 2018, 05:00:39 PM
To some extent, we must keep the coins, of course not forever, but until that moment, until there is a chance to get the maximum profit. And even more, many coins do not immediately show their potential after entering the stock exchange, and in this case they have to hold.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: HardFireMiner on December 18, 2018, 05:03:49 PM
Just hold is putting yourself against market when it's in downtrend - without stop loss you can lose all your money.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: alex_kir on December 19, 2018, 04:28:13 PM
There was a day that it's good to hold some coin for long-term but in facing bear market it's not safe to hold for a long day and now we are facing the unstoppable dropping price of crypto coins.
And it starts to seem to me that the market has begun to change and the market today definitely can seriously add to the price, I very much hope that we will close this month at $ 6000 and this will be the beginning of what is called a turning point. But let's see what will happen this week, because there can be anything


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mksundip on December 19, 2018, 04:32:12 PM
I still hold it until now, I bought crypto assets when the price was still high, in October 2018, and I think this is not the time to sell it


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Felic43 on December 19, 2018, 04:47:56 PM
HODLing is adviceable this time market is at the lowest no one sell his coin now and make enough profit as plan but i will advice mate to hodl.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Karlinz on December 19, 2018, 05:04:52 PM
It may be difficult to say, holding can be profitable in bull market, all those that bought certain coins at earlier 2017 and sold late December were those that hugely benefited. There are some element of luck with every investment. Particularly it is better adviced to exit once a bear market is imminent or trade carefully


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Daliloz on December 19, 2018, 05:07:34 PM
Nobody forces anyone to keep their coins. If there is a need, you can sell it without any problems.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mklost on December 19, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
No doubt you have explained nicely but from my point of view when the price is not in favor, the investor needs to hold for skipping huge losses at selling cheap rate. At the same time, they can trade instead of only holding people should trade if they can apply their best strategy on trading.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: TusharMali99 on December 19, 2018, 05:27:25 PM


Rightly said and nicely explained. Most of the newbies misunderstand the HODL terminology and therefore do not take out their profits at the right time and then they end up their losing their earned profits and investment amount.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: shakesbear on December 19, 2018, 05:41:24 PM
I think "Hodl" is a general direction, the idea, that at the moment it is not advisable to sell, and then you decide when to sell. It's silly to blindly believe the advice from the Internet.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: GmBoom on December 19, 2018, 10:31:46 PM
Not all tokens are really worth it for making hold. You gotta choose the best coin to hold in long term. Because most of the coin doesn't give you profit when you hold in long term.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: ForTheAzerot on December 19, 2018, 10:36:39 PM
Not all tokens are really worth it for making hold. You gotta choose the best coin to hold in long term. Because most of the coin doesn't give you profit when you hold in long term.
Last year, all tokens in the growing market brought revenue. So the only thing you need is that the market would grow.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: krisnajsadrak on December 19, 2018, 10:42:10 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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HODL is a strategy for long term, at least 2 years my friend
for me, better do a trading activity in the market, so, we can make a daily profit or weekly profit
but, people should learn first about how to trade,, and how to manage thei risk, so we can reduce the risk on our trading activity


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: crustycrab666 on December 19, 2018, 10:46:19 PM
HODL is a strategy for long term, at least 2 years my friend
for me, better do a trading activity in the market, so, we can make a daily profit or weekly profit
but, people should learn first about how to trade,, and how to manage thei risk, so we can reduce the risk on our trading activity
Well, everyone has their own tendencies. Some like long-term investments and some like short-term investments. The most important thing is that we understand where our ability and willingness to invest. Day trading is indeed quite profitable with all the risks, the important thing is we have a good strategy and analytical skills.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: edmundo on December 19, 2018, 10:53:32 PM
Of course Hodling is for those who see crypto as a long term investment and are patient enough to wait. For the day traders who prefer liquid funds to help them with their day to day trading, Hodling isn't suitable to them and as such they don't see the need. This is also good for those who can actually trade the markets. If you are a beginner who is still learning how to trade, then hodling isn't such a bad thing, you can hodl your tokens or assets while learning how to become a professional trader. Everyone has their reasons as to why they hodl.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Pamahaw on December 19, 2018, 11:22:47 PM
Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.
This is advice for me seems to be very negative and it might lead to a person selling his crypto. It would be pessimistic to say that there doesn't seem to be much hope for bitcoin and the impact of this to seeking advice is not good. We have a different strategy on how to deal with our crypto and as long as you earn profit from it then it is good for you.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: vina.lugtu on December 19, 2018, 11:25:29 PM
To be honest, I am done encouraging people to hodl because I know that they are suffering because of the low price. I have given up on some coins as well because I don't think they will ever recover and its much better to get something out of their value than nothing. If you are happy or satisfied with the price, you can sell anytime and don't let other people stop you from making a decision. Don't stress yourself.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Jamalzzz on December 19, 2018, 11:30:28 PM
The hold strategy, in my opinion, is not bad because many people have proven it. And I think people who hold Hold don't always just hold coins. But they also invest again in coins that they say are promising. So they also help the market to rise again.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Gotomoon on December 19, 2018, 11:31:59 PM
You don’t have to hold as every user has it’s own decisions on how we can earn money from crypto. For some selling at lose and for some holding until such time price is profitable. If we aims to earn at this point of down price holding is also good.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mightwalker on December 19, 2018, 11:44:00 PM
Hodl in bull market and trade in bear market, it is the simple key to success.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: pixie85 on December 19, 2018, 11:46:01 PM
Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

This is not real advice. This is your advice based on your negative attitude. You are bearish and want other people to be bearish.
Real unbiased advice is: Do your own research and decide if you want to invest. The market is down by 85% and it's the right time to buy if you believe in cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Osayo on December 19, 2018, 11:48:35 PM

I think you are also misleading the people by this your statements. What do you mean that there is no much hope for Bitcoin in future? How sure are you?? What if hodling was the right decision too? There is nothing 'senseless' advising someone to hodl.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: kier010 on December 19, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
last year i hold my coin for two months and i sell it when it reach the amount i desire. so holding is not stupid contrary to what you say. i guess you are new to crypto and suffer loss because of holding and don't have patience to wait. you would not sell right now but the is called holding that does mean you are stupid and ignorance?


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: phuong0011 on December 20, 2018, 12:31:51 AM
I see the crypto market is green again.  Crypto currencies are recovering now.  I believe the bull market will come at the next year.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: maydna on December 20, 2018, 12:39:32 AM
Sometimes hold the coins can give a big profit especially if there is a rally for the price to increase. I keep the coins too in a few months ago, and now, I see the price starts to rise, but it looks like I need to hold for another time because the price now has the same as the price I bought the coin. I am sure that soon, all the coins will reach the last price I bought and it will start to increase higher and at that time is the right time for me to sell the coins. But you need to have the patience to wait so you can hold for a longer time and you don't feel you suffer because the price does not increase yet.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Pamahaw on December 20, 2018, 12:44:38 AM
Hodl in bull market and trade in bear market, it is the simple key to success.
Could you elaborate more on how this can be done? It would be helpful on the community if someone advises how someone could earn even in this bearish market. People in the community is already tired on losing money.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: SunJAB on December 20, 2018, 12:48:07 AM
Sometimes hold the coins can give a big profit especially if there is a rally for the price to increase. I keep the coins too in a few months ago, and now, I see the price starts to rise, but it looks like I need to hold for another time because the price now has the same as the price I bought the coin. I am sure that soon, all the coins will reach the last price I bought and it will start to increase higher and at that time is the right time for me to sell the coins. But you need to have the patience to wait so you can hold for a longer time and you don't feel you suffer because the price does not increase yet.

I think we should keep altcoin if their prices are not high yet bring you much profit, the market will quickly recover and you will quickly gain from them.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: starblocks on December 20, 2018, 12:52:14 AM
HODL'ing can be beneficial depending on when you buy an asset which should be when its indicating it's near the most oversold it can get and then you can adopt this strategy and be patient in order to gain profits later, but of course you don't continue to hold if there's a better option to diversify into and selling a portion to recoup your initial investment once it has appreciated is advisable


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: r_uyab on December 20, 2018, 12:56:07 AM
if you experience a loss for me TAHAN is the only way to cover losses at a low price. because you will also get more profits by waiting for better prices in the future.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: inanilujimi on December 20, 2018, 01:01:38 AM
do what you want to do but don't force other people to do what you want.
everyone has their own strategies in crypto.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: faadhilah on December 20, 2018, 01:33:34 AM
Everyone has their own perceptions in this matter, and of course it will be different from one another, and it all comes back to us whether or not the hodl coins we have


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mel1978 on December 20, 2018, 01:38:16 AM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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Hold strategy is good but sometimes we need to consider other things like checking for this coin if this is still active in the market because if it does not then why hold. For me only those coins in the top ten maybe I need to hold and the rest I need to check it well if the project has upcoming big event or no more. Also I will bear in mind that as long as I got already an earning I will sell my hold rather than waiting until the price gets low.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: antsam on December 20, 2018, 01:55:16 AM
HODL is a sense of optimism that is echoed to keep a coin or token held and until it reaches the dream price. I don't think there is anything wrong, depending on the holder in determining the right time to release it


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: primeer on December 20, 2018, 02:28:03 AM
Hodling is a great strategy in a bull market and the worst strategy in a bear market. I wish I chose when to hodl more wisely, but I got my lessons.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: kakade on December 20, 2018, 02:40:30 AM
What is clear is that when the market is red when selling coins, I don't think that's good. Even though your condition for buying coins is still below the price and maybe you can still profit. But if you sell green market prices, your profits are greater. Holding coins is not always good because it does not rule out the possibility that coins cannot grow.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: jimskiy on December 20, 2018, 02:47:16 AM
Why not have to hold some altcoin or bitcoin, always hope best option way to make price is growing up and we have waiting until price is up by keep holding, without holding we will miss opportunity to get much profit.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: inmean on December 20, 2018, 02:47:42 AM
Why do you dare say that is stupid thing. As you are with the current market situation, we do what trade, or hibernation market. >:(


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Arata on December 20, 2018, 03:02:52 AM
Yes, of course you don't have to hold it, if you need money you can sell your coins, but of course with this condition if you sell coins, you don't get maximum results and definitely return to yourself whether to sell or save your coins at this time


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: coinsycrip09 on December 20, 2018, 03:07:16 AM
Why not have to hold some altcoin or bitcoin, always hope best option way to make price is growing up and we have waiting until price is up by keep holding, without holding we will miss opportunity to get much profit.
while waiting and hoping, i also took the opportunity to collect more coins in my wallet. i'm sure the market will improve again.

if you don't collect from now on, you will miss the opportunity to party when the market returns.
we should not give up just because of the current market conditions.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: wahyu5 on December 20, 2018, 03:13:43 AM
Everyone has a way and strategy to invest in bitcoin, for me the most important investment is understanding what we invest and being able to control emotions. Patience is very much needed in investment, and real intelligence is how we benefit through the investments we make. I am of the opinion that before generating profits never give up or sell, so holding is the best way, and trying other investments while waiting for the increase in investment prices that we did before is a very wise choice.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: dobolspeed3 on December 20, 2018, 03:14:18 AM
Actually holding or selling is the decision of each person. If they determine at the right time to sell, they certainly sell. If they hold back because it's not time to sell, of course they will hold back the coins they have. So all of the decisions were in each person.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Farahtenan on December 20, 2018, 03:23:10 AM
If we are good at reading situations, holding the coin has a time limit according to our policy. So holding back and reading situations is the activity that we must do so that we can overcome the worst possibilities. Withholding without seeing, we will be blind and panic when we know the red market.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: qtronix on December 20, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
I agree with you. This is a very uncertain strategy. On the one hand everything sounds good, you can make a good profit just by having patience. But the coin may not rise in price then. Perhaps it will not survive and then you miss the opportunity to profit from it. Therefore, study each coin separately, use a different strategy for each.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Dobby070 on December 20, 2018, 01:39:47 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.



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Well, it is so simple when you hold something but you make it as your base cryptocurrency. It is always better to do something rather than just wait, What I mean is to do some daytrading and still earn profits out of it.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Vanshenz on December 20, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
I also do not understand why many people advise hodl for a long time. I used to hodl until the time when the price suited me and then sold. But now I don’t see any sense in hodl any coins. Because in my opinion already such a time that they practically do not grow, but either stand in the price of one place or fall strongly in price.
many people hope to benefit more from the hold they do, but instead someone often experiences losses from their hold. I think this happens because of the greed that humans have, we are always tempted by the increase in prices that occur, so we decide to keep on holding back, without us realizing that all prices can suddenly decline without us knowing, and this is what causes a person to lose after holding back.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Al-e_x on December 20, 2018, 10:37:16 PM
if only HOLD without maximum analysis. then that will make us lose. so. hold for a long time without analysis is bullshit. actually we hold to bullish not to die. but sometimes the market doesn't meet our expectations. even in the world of trading. fast play and fast analysis are very needed and even hold for a long time.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: trapatalce on December 21, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Why not have to hold some altcoin or bitcoin, always hope best option way to make price is growing up and we have waiting until price is up by keep holding, without holding we will miss opportunity to get much profit.

Yeah, well, holding from $20,000 to $2,000 is not what I'd call a "profitable decision".


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Naughty Princess on December 21, 2018, 03:00:44 PM
In my opinion. holding it is necessary if conditions are not favorable for us. people hold coins because prices are too cheap. if we do not hold and force the will to sell, we will suffer losses.
If you buy when it is cheaper, you can gain profit right now. You have to know how much you are longing for to hold to avoid big losses. You are holding because you want to gain profit which is depend on your decision if you want longer term or make it short term and trade on the market.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: candra raditya on December 21, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
Hold is not a bad choice when the market experiences a decline in value that is getting lower, and hold can be a way to become a profit opportunity when the market grows, but that also depends on the quality of coins held.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: crzybilly on December 21, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Everybody decides what is holding. If someone hold a coin for several months for 40 percent profit it is also holding. If somebody holds coins for several years, you can call this holding as well. Believe in crypto guys and everybody gets the profit we deserved.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: anume123 on December 23, 2018, 04:28:41 PM
There was a day that it's good to hold some coin for long-term but in facing bear market it's not safe to hold for a long day and now we are facing the unstoppable dropping price of crypto coins.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: jpaul on December 25, 2018, 01:40:11 PM
Thank you for this. I mean everywhere you are seeing people telling others to hold their coins and wait but one thing we are not seeing is the fact that people can actually not hodl any coins if they choose to. You can sell if you know that you cannot take the market that is currently on a rollercoaster ride. There is no shame in getting out while you can


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: meloman4u on December 25, 2018, 02:12:05 PM
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the HOLD. Remember the price of bitcoin a couple of years ago. Do you think this profit is insufficient?


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: plr on December 25, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
It still depends on the individual choice I just read one guy who put $50k to one coin and promised to hold it for two years because he believes he can make a lot of money from holding his coins that long, not all who holds are stupid, they just believe to much on the coin they are investing.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: bright4mech on December 25, 2018, 02:26:57 PM
Every crypto coin has his own potential, and purpose of creating, which end up buying and selling process on the Crypto industrial platform, secondly HODL of alt-coin where the price is less than ICO price is a right decision to take, by HODL for a long period of time.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Prettymie on December 25, 2018, 02:29:23 PM
HODL is the most misunderstood strategy in the history of mankind and probably the dinosaurs. HODLing doesn't mean HOLD UNCONDITIONALLY, it means hold until you thing it's profitable, until you think "'I've lost enough", until you need the money, until you decide to buy a different cryptocurrency, etc...

People are asking online for help and the only advice they get is "HODL", preaching it like it's the holy bible.. Stop with the non-sense and start giving people real advice.

Example of real advice: I wouldn't sell right now, but there doesn't seem to be much hope for Bitcoin in the near future, keep that in mind.

If you say that, instead of mindlessly shouting "HODL" at the top of your lungs, the person who asked will take it into consideration much more and you will actually encourage them to do more research on what the asked, because intelligence inspires intelligence. Shouting HODL inspires stupidity and ignorance.

Hodl has many meaning and being a crypto investors it's your own decision to do what you want in your coins. Holding will keep your coins in your wallet but you will lose the value on it if you will not sell it at the right time. Just don't be greedy and everything will be alright.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Roni116 on December 25, 2018, 02:33:17 PM
I haven't thought about selling now, and I prefer better prices in 2019, and because of that I prefer to hold this year.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: ipanks on December 25, 2018, 02:36:08 PM
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the HOLD. Remember the price of bitcoin a couple of years ago. Do you think this profit is insufficient?

I think hold can help us to gain the benefits in the future like for example, we can buy one or two coins at a very low price and hold in a long-term, and in one year suddenly the price increase higher, we can sell at the high price and make a lot of profit. I think many of us still remember when we were in 2013-2014, we see the price is not too high and some of us still hold it until 2017 when almost all of the coins price can increase higher, many of us are making huge money from hold various coins. So hold will gives another advantage for every people who can be patient.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: kiansantan on December 25, 2018, 02:40:58 PM
hold for a long time without analysis is nonsense. actually we hold bullish not to die. but sometimes the market does not meet our expectations. even in the world of commerce. fast play and fast analysis are very needed and even last.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: zabir.brutov on December 25, 2018, 02:43:53 PM
Sure you do not need to hold, but in my opinion if you want to gain really great profits like x10 or so, you should hold your coins for several years. You won't be able to get huge outcomes if you hold coins only for several months.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: lamadu3 on January 08, 2019, 02:49:24 PM
I haven't thought about selling now, and I prefer better prices in 2019, and because of that I prefer to hold this year.

Person should decide himself to hold his coins or sell. I do not see anything wrong in the fact that someone will hold Bitcoin and after some time coins will fly to the moon.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: safem on January 08, 2019, 03:07:39 PM
I won't agree with you on this. In business , everyone has one strategy or the other which can be incorporated to make the business work for them as they expect. For some people in crypto business, holding strategy is one good way through which they can realize the profit they desire particularly as investors. Any investor in cryptocurrency who do not have this trait of holding, may not be able to make any tangible profit as he supposed. The reason why many investors hold is that, at the initial stage when they buy coins, the price value of the coins is always low and since they invested in the coins to make profit, then they have got no other option than to wait until the price appreciates in the market. It is just like a farmer who sows seed, it is not the same day he sows that he will reap. Hence, holding can't be overemphasized in crypto if good profit making will be in view.





Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: salad daging on January 08, 2019, 03:08:58 PM
Yes, of course you don't have to hold it, if you need money you can sell your coins, but of course with this condition if you sell coins, you don't get maximum results and definitely return to yourself whether to sell or save your coins at this time
we don't have to hodl because even though everyone wants to get as much profit as possible, sometimes we can't impose our desires because sometimes our market conditions and financial conditions don't support it, therefore many people end up selling their coins even though they still want to hodl


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Gatsby club on January 09, 2019, 02:53:15 AM
I agree with the author of this topic that SID is one of the most understandable and simple strategies for any person who first decided to practice cryptocurrency, she does not assume any very deep knowledge in this area and therefore is acceptable in almost all cases as the most the best option to achieve your goals.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Krassows on January 09, 2019, 03:23:25 AM
Selling coins with market conditions that have not fully risen you will get results that are less than optimal. It would be better to hold your coins first, indeed this is not easy because patience is needed, but to get maximum results in the future, you better hold it


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Nurma.A on January 09, 2019, 03:35:40 AM
I wonder, why are there still many people who are hodl in conditions like this. they only harm themselves.
do they not learn from experience? hodl isn't always right. this year, not the hodl year. it seems like they have to learn to trade first.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: jimskiy on January 09, 2019, 03:43:16 AM
Hold is the best solution from all of our asset have lower price when listing at exchange market, we invest at ICO and getting price lower than first ICO price, we have hold and wait price is higher or the same with ICO price.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: 19Nov16 on January 09, 2019, 04:17:58 AM
Sure you do not need to hold, but in my opinion if you want to gain really great profits like x10 or so, you should hold your coins for several years. You won't be able to get huge outcomes if you hold coins only for several months.

In investment, of course, the most important thing is to always be patient to hold, I am sure that the future of crypto will continue to improve so that by being patient to hold, we have the opportunity to earn profits up to 10x.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: babsjoe on January 09, 2019, 04:35:34 AM
I will rather hold bitcoin unconditionally if the price in the market dies not tally with my exoected value of bitcoin. My price range of bitcoin is in tens of thousand because I believe bitcoin should have such value. I am not just holding, I am waiting  for my prediction to materialize and if it take me many years for that to hapoen, so be it!


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Snaic on January 09, 2019, 04:47:50 AM
In general, you are right. Our coins and tokens should always work. So there will be a balance in their price. If the majority of bitcoin holders sold their bitcoins at the end of 2017, when they began to rise sharply in price, they would have made a profit and we would not have such a long period of falling and stagnation of the cryptocurrency market. I think if you repeat the situation, many now would have done so. People need to learn from their mistakes. However, at the same time it will mean that Bitcoin will not be able to rise sharply in price.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: elenka n on January 09, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
The market is unpredictable, so I still prefer to continue on Hodl, until the market recovers!


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: laredo7mm on January 09, 2019, 12:39:19 PM
Hold is a decision that must be made if indeed our investment also decreases in terms of value and for a long term get a greater value. it is a natural thing to do by holding a hold


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: eaglewhite80 on January 12, 2019, 10:38:44 AM
I haven't thought about selling now, and I prefer better prices in 2019, and because of that I prefer to hold this year.

Person should decide himself to hold his coins or sell. I do not see anything wrong in the fact that someone will hold Bitcoin and after some time coins will fly to the moon.
I feel you with respect to the fact that everyone have what works for them, but on the other hand, OP is right. The problem with a lot of people today is that the only mindset they have is moon and HODL. However, they have not been able to find knowledge to at least be able to figure out better ways in which they can be at a better end of the market without just having to hold all through. Whichever way, like I said, we all have what work for us most of the time, and in as much as there are better ways to investing that just holding all through, it does not make holding a bad step either. You just have to find out what works out best for you as an individual.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: tytanhamon04 on January 12, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
When there is a bear market it is useless to hold but when the coins are cheap then buy and hold them will be the right decision. When the bullish trend starts you will not sell them when the price rises by 60 -70 %


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: joletartare on January 12, 2019, 10:55:46 AM
Even if I know that Hodl isn't always the best strategy and a dynamic management of my wallet could be more profitable... I know myself and prefer to avoid "emotional buy /sell" that are the worst option.
...so I hodl all. :)


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: Garrixx on January 12, 2019, 11:12:06 AM
I disagree with you. This is the only strategy that brings stable profit for 10 years and there is no point in changing something.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: carrigan on January 12, 2019, 11:21:43 AM
I think HODL is one of the strategies that we can apply to face this kind of market. Of course, it will not be suitable for all coins. Some certain coins are worthy for the long-term investment so that we can hold it for better profits. However, well it may be right that we may not need to hold for some coins that are worthier for trading.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: mahilchii on January 12, 2019, 01:08:57 PM
You cannot always blame the holders, they are not the reason for this current downfall which is happening now it's the big whales who are still hungry to buy coins in cheaper prices and busy in filling their bags. This trend need to be changed if we need to see a stable price on the market.


Title: Re: You don't have to HODL
Post by: wizardcrypto on January 12, 2019, 01:25:50 PM
You cannot always blame the holders, they are not the reason for this current downfall which is happening now it's the big whales who are still hungry to buy coins in cheaper prices and busy in filling their bags. This trend need to be changed if we need to see a stable price on the market.
The market can never be stable despite that is what everyone dreams in this recent time .you need to understand how the market works.until you understand the trend is your friend you can never make profit. The whales still control the market and is advisable to follow what the whales are currently doing which is selling low to buy at the dip. Waiting for market to be stable is waste of time. Just keep trading and increase your bags.