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Guys, one thing i have realized is that we won't have any adoption until a bull run has started again and people are seeing the money making qualities once more. The old generation mostly thrive on taking long term investments but this current generation like things that bring quick money.

Imagine, current generation don't take jobs that pay small amounts even though the person may not have a job already... everyone is waiting for an opportunity to make huge amount in a little period of time. (i stand to be corrected:))

This brings the issue to the cryptosphere. I think we won't have any mass crypto adoption until another moneymaking market comes again. Honestly, I've tried talking to many people about crypto but they all think they were to come and make money out of it, but since it isn't so they left.

So in my opinion, i think we need a good market for adoption rather than adoption for a good market. (this is my personal opinion tho)

so do you also think same or you think there's another way around this?

Adoption requires stable prices, not necessarily high prices.
But with high volumes, high prices are also more stable.
It's a chicken-egg combination

I think bitcoin and crypto currency has adoption already
What is left is total acceptance of the adoption and passing sec blah blah

A steady price and growth is important for adoption
And the bull run and bearish run brings trust issues to place
Which is the best ??

Lol....this thing is a very confusing dilemma. The cryptospace has been experiencing a lot of late and the adoption problems have been an issue as well. Nevertheless i side with you buddy, it isn't all about a high price but it's about a stable price amidst a healthy environment. Without these, people wouldn't have the courage and zeal to enter this ecosystem.

I very much hope that the market can be improved, such as the supervision of ICO projects, or add some methods to protect the interests of hunters.

I prefer adoption first before bull run.
Once there is an increased adoption rate of cryptocurrency , bull run will happen naturally triggered by demand.
Adoption rate is the most important thing and I think that's what we should be calling for.

I feel in order to have a good adoption, there has to be a good usage of crypto and blockchain in general. I mean, we have to see an effective ecosystem that answers the major problems with crypto: High Volatility, Vulnerability, ..and good possible conversion from crypto to fiat..

So, I'm with the adoption first. I think, with a project like Gigzi, crypto adoption will be way bigger. Gigzi aiming to back crypto assets with precious metals price, so it is more stable. Moreover, using iritech biometric security is more effective for securing our crypto wallet..

We'll see more adoptions with quality projects, like the Gigzi one.

I understand your point. If I am a new investor, I would also want a good market before I decide to enter here. But since I am not that new here anymore, I believe adoption is just necessary in a long-term view.

these two are not mutually exclusive. which means you can't have bull run without adoption and you can't have adoption without a bull run. it all comes down to the utilities that the coin provides and whether that adoption is real or just fake one by speculators who want to gain some money by temporarily entering that coin.

for example when bitcoin is adoption by more merchants around the world the price rises and as the price rises more people adopt bitcoin and more merchants start accepting it as payment and then price rises.... and it repeats like a connected ring and moves forward.

I think this is a very protracted dispute in which there will not be any one truth, we need time to see everything ourselves!

I think for the growth of the wound requires a large infusion of money. It can not provide ordinary people, vkmdyvaya 100-1000 $. We need investors with big money, which will invest 1,000,000 and more. Then the market will grow.

I think adoption and bull run come together in form of waves and this form the market cycle. The next set of adoption then bull run will always be a bigger wave. The cycle just keeps repeating.

I think that's the purpose of crypto, mass adoption to replace fiat currency and also the payment system, I'm sure everyone also expects this. But we must see the current situation which is very unfriendly, therefore mass adoption will not be achieved in the near future and there are still many obstacles that must be overcome.

Likes or dislikes mass adoption will definitely happen and we have to enjoy the process, I think bull run has been expected by many people and it seems that the next bull run will trigger crypto to become more popular and make people become cryptos hype, maybe it will also create a revolution in various fields to immediately adopt crypto and blockchain massively.

For me the best thing that i am doing is to adopt first before the bullrun!
While many of the people in the community who are looking in the market with no strategy and knowledge!
waiting for the bull run first before the adoption which will lessen their profit of more than 50 percent.

Only smart and brave people will do the adoption before the bull run.
But that is the best way to get into an investment! that is the smartest way to earn huge.
We can't blame those people who don't want to adopt before the bull run as many runs are bull traps.

The way people like to make money has not changed, but the market has changed dramatically. Last year, the ICO market became popular and ushered in a bull market, but this year the ICO market is full of fraudsters.

Exactly, those who were brave and trusted crypto deserved the profit last year. A lot of them made huge profits and their life style has changed as well, one of my friend who was holding BTC before few years made bulk profit as he never expected this and he has Invested some money in business and living happily. Patience is a key role which turned his entire life.

I believe that we will not be able to change the market. The situation on the market is very bad and only people who have a huge amount of BTC and other cryptocurrencies on their wallet can change this. We'll have to watch it and just wait for the rise.

I don't think there is a cause-effect relationship between bull market and crypto adoption. The adoption is a long term, never ending process that carries on regardless of prices.

Adoption is happening right now and it does not depend on prices. then how fast technological advances are developing - only this affects the popularity of the blockchain and cryptocurrencies. price it is just a manipulation

Adoption doesn't need any stable value but it needs utility usage. They wanna use it because it can give advantage for them. they are using it for their benefit and the value doesn't have any important role on this case.

So you really want what happened to just repeat again, then again and again? one of the main reason markets crashed before was because the majority was in it for the quick money and when things started to move down the majority was panic selling and only a few holding, the adoption has nothing to do with the bull-run because once the bull-run stops the people that joined just for the money will jump from the ship again and this current situation will just repeat itself.

so that people want to adopt Crypto, the market must be good first.

IMO. no problem without the most important bull run the market must be stable, that's the beginning for crypto adoption to be real. this is the problem from the start, people are only looking for quick profits. without thinking about why crypto was made. we take the example of bitcoin, are people here using btc for payment, and others? it doesn't seem to exist, because crypto is only used as an investment tool without clear objectives.

I'm in support of this opinion of yours... most people are comfortable with how they make their transactions now.. and are also comfortable with whatever they call money.. this is the reason most icos with a working product are still way undervalued.. thats because there is no point in trying to follow up their invention if it won't give quick cash... and if its not liquidated enough

A good market is always needed, not just for adoption, so the right option is to buy more coins now and wait until the market starts to grow!

But how can you say that adoption is taking place? Rather than being traded wildly?

Who can stop it? Most of the supporters wants listing first before they even see the fruits of the project itself. That is the sad part of the crypto world now unlike before.

It is all about the money. Not the features of the project which becomes only fruitful in years.

Bull run will not increase adoption. Stable prices and steady growth and good technology having real life applications will increase blockchain and crypto adoption.

adoption must be the first new there will be a bull run. a bull run will never happen if there is no adoption that is really done by people. adoption is very important because only with this crypto will grow

Adoption is the most important thing for me. Without it, a bull run will bring nothing but a new bubble. I believe that only adoption brings us all a long-term profit. We should give up the thought of getting quick rich and thinking more long term.

I think we will need to reach another wave of hype first, because there would not be any mass adoption if the prices are going to be so low. I hope it would happen at the same time and will accumulate to a huge pump.

New investors think, there must be a bull run for adoption. but unlike old investors, they think there must be adoption to make the market grow.

I saw all the answers correctly, only we were too afraid to go to the market to buy. no matter the adoption or bull run that must be first. because in the end the market will definitely grow.

That's right,  we aren't particularly on the look for its future but we only focus on the price.  Crypto value will be affected once we fully adopt on this new technology. Strong adoption will help for its continuous development and to sustains it's growing trend.

I see it as you do. These two things are also directly related to me. We need a good and thriving market for society to be interested in and allow crypto adoption. The other way, the market needs the crypto adpotion so that it can continue to flur. One goes into the other fluently.

Isn't it that mass adoption is about cryptocurrency being used by many people as utility or accepted as an alternative to fiat regardless of the price? 

If I may opinion, I want to adopt it first, then after that comes Bull run. Without real adoption, I think it will not be too productive for growth. And it will be more in if both are related. For now it will be better and more beautiful, if the Bull run comes soon !! Thanks.

If you are looking at a altcoins perspective then I feel that the adoption is gonna be the thing that has to happen first and then the value of that altcoin will raise accordingly.

Last bull run happened when the adoption level was lower than now, so it's pretty much safe to say that you don't really need adoption for there to be a bull run. It's necessary and welcome, of course, but not at all mandatory.

I am sure that in order for the bull run to start, adoption has to occur. for that moment we need to improve technology.

Adoption does not have much to do with bull run. It can come first and it can come after, depending on the nature of project.
If a project has got good concept, active and astute team as well as good product, there will be speedy mass adoption. Which can then bring about bull run.

 Maybe you are right but its more on the Capitulation first before  the possible upwards trend on the market...expert say we should expect the bottom first before anything going up again. yet who knows when the bottom they would expect. with the market Volatility and unpredictability of the market everyone is at hung,

Of course, we need a good market for adoption, it is like a domino effect, people love to see good market condition before they made an investment, although the real profit comes from buying when the market is bearish, it's always buying low and sell high.

They kinda go hand in hand. If you have adoption without getting a bull people will get into bitcoin like last year but eventually will go away when the price can't sustain those levels. When you create a bull but there is no adoption than the price can't be sustained again because lack of buyers and will go down too.

No matter which one you select if you do not have the other one the price will definitely fall significantly after a bump. That's why you need both adoption and bull run together, you need them to be at the same level as well, when there is a bull there must be adoption so the buyers never become less than sellers and when there is adoption you need to make the price go up according to the level of adoption so people do not get out faster than they get in.

The problem now is that the price is not stable,not everyone are looking for high price but stable price.If the price is stable surely we will have adoption, but when price is not stable,people are scared to adopt.

We need  good coins and products with use cases which will improve our life quality and
then there will be higher demand for it and we will have bull run and mass adoption.
We cannot have mass adoption if the coins are not scalable if many of them are useless.
This technology  complicated to be adopted at once. There will be a lot of bull and bears
until that happen.

surely everyone always looks for stable prices at a high level to have adoption, actually there is no need to be afraid to adopt in a situation like this but with a note that only adopting coins that have good potential for recovery in the future when the bullrun market comes in order to get a profit pretty big.

You have made a very great point. I think this current generation is filled with more lazy people than our fore-fathers. Most young people this days are not willing to task themselves much to earn a living. On the other hand, adoption is more important than the bull run. Once there is more adoption, the market will grow steadily.

In my opinion. it is very difficult to create public adoption. the public is always having trouble buying when the price of BTC is high. so. in my opinion a good market will not create public adoption. and something thst will create public adoption is public demand and awareness of crypto. and that would force the government to make crypto regulation.

Adoption first before bull run because need to consider the safety of inestors to stable the price in the coinmarketcap, adoption it's means stability without properly adoption there's no bull run but possible to pricegoes into the moon without adoption.