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Hi,
just now I think about why past ICOs are not buying back their tokens for cheap price from bounty hunters and other dumpers?
Why they do not use money collected from ICO to do that?
Look at CountingHouse for example, they helping price to grow and it is really working!

Collected fund gathered from ICO are used for the development and expansion of the project, it depends on the company decision though what they are going to do with funds, I'm sure the company already made a statement about the percentage usage of the fund.

I think this would be most profitable think in the cryptocurrency World. It is so simple today, after ICO finishes and hit the markets, the bounty hunters are selling their free coins just like "0"! Last year i always followed that situation and everytime it happened the same way. For ex. ICO price is $1, you can buy it like $0.05 in first days. Thats what i will try to do in this new year..

The price of the cryptocurrency collapses to a greater extent early investors and advisors, and bounty hunter just a little help.

Some ICOs promise buy walls at ICO price in exchanges, and this idea has its own advantages (like reassuring people that they at least don't lose money by taking part in ICO, hence more buyers.)

The disadvantage is, like people said, that a part of team's resources may be wasted to buy from bounty hunters (if they exist). That resources are extremely important in a good project (and that's the main reason why some serious projects don't have bounty campaigns.)

I don't see point in buying back from from bounty hunter after they have make their profit. If they need to buy token they would have buy when ICO was going on.

Most icos are greedy and self centered , which is a reason why there are so many failed projects with miserable prices across the globe

But a buy back itself does not help every project
It it just a good risk

Buy back ico tokens after ico for keep the price of Token stable is a good idea. But in the most cases it's already described in the most ico project if they have a plan for buy back in the future or not. Also most ico had offer that are are going to buy back token from their profits which is good idea. But as we know last year is bad for ico project so many ico failed in their profits. But this is really a good idea. Also strong projects don't need buy back.

Buying back their tokens is not actually a wise choice specially at a time of bearish market just like what happened last year. Dumpers are in greater number than the buyers nowadays so if the company decided to buy back their token, there will be a minor pump but a massive sell is still on the line which may cause more panic selling. There are also a group of market manipulator so there will be a chance that the buyer which is the company will be abused which will lead to greater losses.

Do you think they still have a reason to do that?
Maybe they already spent it somewhere.
Each project does have their own technique to promote, to pump and dump their tokens.

But there are still chance that an ICO might get some unexpected pump We can never know if the whales would help that certain ICO that you would have a chance to buy, But just like you said there is some risk involved in buying in a bearish market, But just as I have said there are still risk takers that will sure take some risk in making big income in investing with ICO if the project will be promising.

Well, I think bounty hunter will have a chance with the tokens that they have got, It might come in handy in the future because that certain token that they have hold might pump in the future when the market recovers.

I am very much in agreement with you, because now there are many ICO that when the market list is cheaper than when selling tokens, maybe it's an interesting idea for ICO project developers

This is a very cool idea, because in this way today we will be able to organize normal projects that will have guarantees for projects. I can confidently say that today it would be great if you understand that such projects will definitely be appreciated.

I think, it will not give much influence. More important is the development of the project, if it goes well and in accordance with their roadmap, it will automatically give a lot of influence to the price of their tokens

each project has a strategy to raise the price of their utility tokens, but what is happening now, many projects are reluctant to repurchase before their platforms work and produce ...

It depends on the plan of the people behind the project,some choose to buy back why some after burning they don't buy back,some would have probably buy back but because of the level of dump,they may see it as a waste buying back.

There are other ICO that included this to their roadmap, so better check all the ICO that you are involving, it is good if they have like that, it can stabilize the price of the coin and at the same time, they will be compelled to complete their platform because of this buy back features.

because the money collected from ico is used for project development, so there's no way they will buy back when the price is cheap (this is I'm talking about if ico only reaches the softcap)
but if the project reaches hardcap it should do what you say because the funds raised are very large (but the team won't do that stupid thing) it's better they hold the funds until market grows again

You forgot the case of when they are not raising enough money from ICO. Another appropriate reason must be they themselves not believing into their own project. Buying back is a common practice even in corporate levels hence when some ICO is efusing to buy back when their tokens are available for cheaper then that will smell fishy.

As far as I have seen most ICO devs are not ready to work on the welfare its early contributors. They just want to secure what they have collected so that they can achieve what they have actually planned for.

Because they do not understand this. The initial task of many projects is to make money on the project. Of course, if they did this they would improve the economy of their projects. Let's say for example hunters. Why admins can not redeem hunters tokens for half the price. After all, we will gladly sell them at such a cost.

Common OP I dont think buying back bounty hunters token will help projects to maintain their price on the exchange bounty hunters get only 1% to 3% of total allocation or total token sold. Take recent examples of projects like FIIICoin & Hyperquant, they are yet to distribute their tokens to bounty participants & their price has been already dropped around 50% to 80%. The ICOs need to shedule release of token strategy wise if they want to maintain their price as presale investors who get huge discounts at the time of token sale dumps their tokens when listed on exchange.

Almost all of the ICO use BTC and ETH as a payment method for selling ICO token. Have you seen the price reduction in both of this coin? Some projects even are not able to conduct their project just because of it. How can they buy back the token even if it is a lower price, they have to pay more than they have collected from ICO.

The team will only buying backs their token if the project have already gain profits after their launching of the product. This is mostly the reason why such promising project will go dumps after the get listed on exchanges as the team can't afford to buy back due to the budget was only allocated for development at the early stage. Mostly some ICO has protection on their investors to control the market price but if the situation is getting worse due the downfall of bitcoin and ETH then they will end-up losing and the last thing they will do is to let the market stabilize before doing a buy-back.

Helbiz also did that and some other projects I can't remember.
And it makes sense, if they believe in the future of their project.
But the raised funds are usually planned for another expenses upfront and they don't have the resouces to do that.

Every team behind the ICO will have their considerations why they should buy or not buy back the coins from the bounty hunters. So far, actually, there are some ICO projects that do that kind of ways. However, most of them don't take this why because it may be too risky for the team.

Yea buy back after ICO is the best way to grow up the value of any token. But it is depends of the team members of that project.I saw this type of one project that named pund x (npxs). I saw this project grow the value of token approx 10x by buy back after ico.

I see many ICO projects that use the concept, which is to buy back token after the ICO. what I understand from that method, the Buyback to hold off the release of tokens in the market, and this ICO company bought back so that the price of the token remained at ICO prices.

I believe, for the team behind every project, they don't see any sign yet to make buy back orders. Maybe the are still expecting more dump or what. They might have not full faith with their project as well.

Why did they buy back their token. For them, those tokens are not important, they sold them from public sale and private sale. They will receive money from it and gradually leave their projects. Many ICOs have done so in 2018 and of course those are scam projects

In my opinion, we can see what they are doing ICO for? they conducted this ICO to raise sufficient funds to develop their projects. so after the ICO, the funds they got were used for the development of their projects, and after their projects were truly successful, they would again buy their ICO Tokens at a fairly high price.

If they say that there will be a buy-back in their token, then they should do that. But only a few projects add such feature in their roadmap because they focus more on the development of their project or in building partnerships.

I think it's only depends on team of projects. what they thought about the project. as how much fund they used for development the project.

I don't think this is right. better is not to buy when ico but buy when already listed on the exchange. this is more profitable because all new coins must be destroyed when they first enter the market.

I don't really understand, why do most of the ICO projects that end successfully, not buybacks, doesn't that help the price of their coins so they don't fall? like the OP example of the Counting House (CHT) project

Well, it all depends on the team. It is a good thing that some buy back their tokens to be able to make their tokens stable but on the other hand, some companies tend to use the funds for the development of the project. If the project will do well then there's no need to buy back because the tokens will rise up like a charm. When the company will have enough funds to buy back after the launch of the project then that will be a double win for the project and from the users who have their tokens.

There are some projects that are doing so but there are very few projects like these ones. The reason I think is because most of ICO are projects from scratch so ICO funds are essential for development of project and so they can't buy back their tokens.

If there is a plan to buy back tokens from investors or even bounty hunters you will find it clearly mentioned heavy marketed in there ICO phase and you will see it mentioned in their whitepaper and roadmap, if there is no plan to do so from the start then they are not obligated to do it, some other ICO uses some other forms to help maintain their own token/coin price such as Burning events and Airdrops to holders, and in most cases these things will also be there in their roadmap from start.

Most projects these days are finding it difficult to raise money and this has been an issue for quite some time now. Some just manage to raise softcap and then the token sake is over. Funds like are spent in the project to get good product. When they decide to buy back without developing their product, it will amount to waste of money, because it will still dump, but a good working product helps the project to grow.

For serious projects, they do this in accordance with the token price promotion program, as well as the burning of some Tokens
But it is in small percentages because the money they collected has other uses in completing the project from buying equipment or hiring competencies ... etc

Most of the projects after ICO are not at all interested in the price of tokens, and even in chat rooms they write that they are developers and they are not interested in what happens there with the price. In such cases, it is immediately clear that the developers wanted to collect only money and are not interested in anything else. It turns out that the tokens that they have blocked for themselves they do not need at all, since they do not.

Buy back is a strategy to create scarcity thereby increasing the price of the token. You talk about why are they not buying back the token they sold from the hunters but with the present situation about crypto market, how many ICO do you know that reach the hardcap. Even the minimum investment needed (Soft cap), many are still struggling to reach it and this is the reason why you see most ico running for 2to 3 months before they end says. The point is that the market is not favourable. ICO are not making alot of contribution like ever before. if they can not get money to develop the project, how will they get money to buy sold token

I've heard this strategy but it's done if the project truly believes that their coins can have a higher price than the price of the ico so they will be happy to do it, but the problem is if they themselves are not sure of their own coins, they will want to buy it because it will only throw away their money

Buyback program is good if the tokens will be use for promotion or dedicated for token burning, I see few projects doing this kind of strategy to push the value of their token to rise but not all of them was successful because they lack the demand for token or the product has not been publish.

I honestly don't see any need for them to buy back the tokens. What is need for them trying to keep all the tokens, whereas the tokens should be distributed and held by as many users as possible.

Some ICO's are actually doing it, so they resell them at a much higher price or if the market conditions improve, but those ICO's that are doing these, has a good project and they are implementing what's on their roadmap and they reached their hardcap or even their softcap for them to do that.

I think this is a privacy decision from the ICO team. not just countinghouses. but there are many coins that have good developments. like FLXX. and I think they have to make maximum offers to the public or big industries to increase the price of coins. so they will buy back coins from ICO. they worry that the value of coins will not be bull because the market is bearish and public trust in crypto is low.

I love joining that campaign because it means stabilizing the price of the token so it will always attract new investors to buy in those dip and there will always volume, but it becomes subject for abuse, as they will create fake volume in the market.

It's a solid idea and I actually think we'll see it in action more often in the future.
I personally love buying tokens AFTER the ICO because the price immediately drops due to bounty hunters.
No reason why ICO teams won't do it unless they don't believe in their own token.

i think its a good idea but there is already some coin that are doing it and you can read it in whitepaper but what after buy they resell ? or they burn the coins

Actually, buyback program is not a good way and not a bad way for ICO tokens.

The buyback program is the one way to keep the price stable and reduce the fluctuations for ICO tokens.
And there are some people who say that the buyback program is a way to manipulate the ICO tokens prices and can reduce the credibility of the ICO tokens.

Repurchasing is one strategy to be able to retract a user's buying interest and this I see in the bobsrepair token where the team dev is trying to implement a buy back strategy and it can keep trading activities active even if the crypto price condition deteriorates.

Countinghouse perspective was good, but we cant really command that to all other ico. Because they have different insight on the project and different purpose. And their fund was meant on other things especially development purposes on their working product.

Maybe that would be better. Then the developers would be able to manage the price of their coins and would be able to avoid falling. This would save the investors, because they would know that they bought the coins at a bargain price.

 Buying bounty hunter's token is an act of market manipulation. Though its a good thing for bounty hunters and may avoid price dumping because of these. I saw many ICO that after they give the token to hunters, the price of their token goes down because these hunters need money immediately and you can not control these once the token is release to them. In conclusion, the idea is somehow good but be careful not to make a huge involvement so that it may not look like market manipulation on large scale.

Even it looks like  a market manipulation but that is our strategies,  there is no need to be afraid of. We have different plans and strategies, and stick into it to be more profitable. Everything will be good unless you abuse the others right.  Some crypto owners will do buying back to help their token price not to dump.

I think most ICO project really don't care about the aftermath of listing their coin. They just keep the monies they generated without reinvesting into their own project. You are right countinghouse is doing buy backs which is really paying of.

To buy back is a good strategy, but a project the will buy back, would have achieved  a lot.
The year's marketing has really been amazing.

Depends if the token decrease you should buy again. If you see the token is more cheaper than the ICO price you can review it and if you see the chance to increase the value you can invest more. But mostly the token who lower the ICO price is not potential because in the first place the value is stable and it increasing.

I think ICO coin buyers after the ICO will start crowded aftermarket prices soar, especially for Bitcoin and Ethereum. Because with the soaring market prices, of course, these ICO coins will be faster registered in the exchange market. And the price will also rise as happened in early 2018.

Many ICO are now failing in marketing because the day the new ico coin prices on the market will drop dramatically when the first ico coin appears on the market.

the dev team need money to develop the project my friend
so, the money collected during the crowdsale is used to develop the project

some projects buy back on the coins they sell. well, it is done to attract investors who only want to make a profit when they sell on an exchanger, or so that investors are not disappointed with the results later. well, basically ICO with a system like this is quite good, but sometimes it's difficult to find ICO like that. well, besides that not all investors want to sell the coins they have bought.

The most important thing here is that they want to use that money to complete and run mainet their system rather than control the price at the beginning time

They can buy back but only a portion of the supply in circulation, actually if they think that it's the bounty hunters who are responsible for the dump, they better not be paying tokens, rather they will pay in BTC or ETH, so once listed in exchange it will not affect the price. Also, some does not really care about the price, they will tell you to just hold and they will focus on developing the project, if you are an investor, you should fully understand that this start up does not boost its value in a short period of time, it's a process and usually long.

Buy back is good but it showed less confidence on their project, it should be the investors who should be buying, not them.

I think that depends on the plan of the dev and the team at large,some have the plan of buying back and why some don't have such plan,some even have the plan but situation if the market might make then change their mind.

Why, because each team the have of own the strategy, and maybe they think of they strategy is the best, although person say otherwise. But I think the bbb (buy back bounty) system is good strategy. But unfortunately, only some ICO use the bbb system for they bounty, still a little bit.

Whatever it is, I am sure the ICO team will always do the best for they community and user of they platform.

- Keep smiling :)

Buying back depend on the dev and team,though is a way of helping price to grow but that dies not make it compulsory for the to do,if the dev and team feel that that is the best for then,they can do that and if they feel otherwise is their choice afternoon all,is a choice to participate in ICO.

Sometimes, if I think the project was good enough and can get a better position in the future, I will buy after the ICO finished because I see that the price will get dump too deep and it helps me to buy at the very low price. I've already bought some tokens before at the low price, and I still hold until now because the price does not increase too high and I see the chance for this token to increase in someday. But I have a bad experience to buy after the ICO finished and it makes me sad to hold the tokens.

Yes, you are right, Couynting house is one of the few who tried to support their coins in this way, but there are projects that raised enough money to do so a bit!

There is a huge difference between good and sh*t projects/ICOs.

Most of good projects increase their prices after ICO. Only bad projects sell their tokens under ICO. Of course, things might change when overall market is very bearish.

Of course dev will not buy back their tokens in the markets using ICO funds, if they will do that why should they hold an ICO (fundraising) ::)
ICO was held to raise money to develop startup projects that were underfunded, so they held an ICO.
But if ICO money has to be used to buy back their tokens / coins in the market, how will they develop the project ? ;D

i think now many investor did buy coin right after ico end, not at ico sale live, why? its because many coin after ico the price was dump hard, so investor will bought at the lowest price.

Well, its not that easy for every project devs and teams also to buy buck what has been sold already that’s why they are more focusing on advertisement. Although only a few project are dedicative that’s why they fail.

I just agree with you a bit, about buying ICO token will be a good strategy if it is true, because in my opinion, there are many ICOs are scams, and I do not believe ICO too much. I only believe when I see it is real and analyze it carefully every time I receive a token  :-X

they do not buy back their tokens because in such a market they also have no money for it. they use the funds collected during the ICO to develop their projects.

I agree with you bro, should dev buy back their tokens at a cheap price so that their tokens can return to the ICO price or above. Until now I did not understand why many ICO tokens were very cheap when they were listed in the market because the dev could have been able to buy all of that by issuing just a little of the money they collected from the ICO.

I took part in several projects with similar communities, 3 of them were scam, 1 pause. All because it was nothing more than a promise, and in fact the projects just needed to raise money under the guise of imaginary honesty.

why do you think a bounty hunter is making a price dump? I guess the token fell not because of the hunters but because the current market volume isn't really good. and they don't buy their tokens again because the company's money is used not for that.

Developers do not buy their coins, because they do not believe in what they are promoting, and this is alarming, although hunters do not need much.

For me, making this or doing this thing is more risky but it also would make you even to gain more. If you ever find a good one and successful one pretty sure you'll become a millionaire.

It depends on the project team. All projects are established with the aim of mobilizing a lot of money from investors. Buy back ICO tokens makes its price stable and can increase if the project has many achievements.

Actually, that is a good idea, this is to keep the price attractive to buyers, but few developers are doing that, they let the holders and investors do that, some ICO are doing this but they are not announcing it for fear that they are manipulating the price.

I think buy back can really help projects after ICOs, that have some level of confidence to build in the mind of some investors in a project. That my feeling anyway.

You are right anyway ;). It is always good to buy back the tokens when the price levels are coming down too low. Because it will help 3 different people in different manner.

First one should be the devs, they are able to get their own tokens for comparatively cheaper. Second one must be holders, they are the prime factor and their concerns should be taken care for maintaining the healthy balance. If buying back will be happening then holders may come forward to invest more when cheaper tokens are available.

The last one is new investors; when buying back is happening, it will lead to bump which is an exaxt thing most investors are looking for and when they find prices are lower than ICO prices then they will definitely invest to grab cheaper tokens.

probably all due to the fact that the projects themselves are not interested in this all. they just want to make money

Some projects organisers actually did the buy back policy and I know some of this project that a very successful.
Not all project would buy back there token.
And activities of bounty hunter can cause a drop in price

I think that if the token itself is good, then it will not fall in price but on the contrary will only add to the price

Some ICOs are doing this and supporting the price by buying back cheap tokens dumped by hunters and some of the
investors. It is important to do, as if the price of the coin crashes it is very difficult to recover later on.

I think that this idea is utter nonsense as each project must develop and achieve results by itself

but right now it's actually also very difficult to be able to find a projeck that really provides a lot of benefits for us because nowadays there are many unclear ico that exist

Perhaps the developers of many projects do not believe in their coins and sell their own part when entering the exchange.

You should consider another factor too. In fact that when you are seeing an ico offers a big discount to the price of ico and then that can create a big dump too because the buyers have accumulated fast profits from dumping their tokens to the market.

Before an ICO can think of buying back, then a lot of money would have been made. Take for instance, a project that is able to achieve the hardcap or very close to it, can still afford to develop the project, buy back and list on good exchanges.
Then there also some projects that do not have product or that the product is not working, if such should buy back, the team knows it will be a loss on their side. Which means such coin may not grow.

I think they take good care of their tokens, they push prices up and take profits and let them live on their own or die. At that time, there will be sharks taking care of that token instead of them.

During those two years during which I am on the forum I met a fairly small number of projects that would offer their bounty hunters the opportunity to buy back the tokens they had earned -  at market price, and I believe that this could be pretty simple solution that would help avoid a fall in the price of tokens in exchange trading.

Like not all projects do the same thing. Because the Project requires funds for the development of their projects. If the project has developed it will certainly make growth in the price of their tokens. But what you say actually makes sense too. Why not buy tokens at low prices. I just thought about what you said.

maybe some people don't buy coins after ICO,
but if I prefer to buy after the ICO ends,
and I bought it when bounty hunter participation sold all the prizes and caused the dumb market, and this was a good opportunity to buy.

Every project has their won decision and strategy to makes the project growth. One of the trick wound be by doing a buy back from the market. and others has another way to do it.
So every project should have their own way to take the project to success.

Some ICOs do have plans to repurchase their tokens but others don't have a plan in their whitepaper to do that. If the funds collected are used to buy the token again, how do they want to build and develop the project according to the roadmap in the whitepaper

Many ICO owner always buy buck after their ICO have success and listing on exchange market, they have buy back because their coin have lower price and its the way how to make their coin keep on higher price or the same with ICO price.

many investors buy back just in case token ICO when it's finished and went on the market. the main purpose, of course, gets low prices from a lot of people who panic for fear of getting prices to plunge. However, only some ICO which is rated worth buying to deliver results. When only an arbitrary course in choosing ICO then precisely the rates there could be progressively falling.

Well, basically they will not have their profit if they use the ICO fund for buying back the tokens. In addition, they have their plan where they will going to use the funds for the project. The tokens are just for investors, by means of profit not the entire project itself.

yes that's the right step, I tried it in the previous year when the market was really bad so many ico tokens were worthless. , I took this opportunity to buy it and until now I still hold the token. if seen at this time there is no value but at least it is already on the stock exchange.

not all of the ICO could deserve to be bought back when after ICO is completed. of the many existing ICO only a handful could produce. and on the selection of this analysis, the ICO will determine whether good or bad results of elections to the ICO that will be purchased. even this could be a strategy exactly where to get coins from the ICO is priced pretty cheap.

it seems like it will be more difficult to do this. because the possibility of losing will be higher and may need more ability to analyze it. special ability is needed to make a profit by buying coins that deteriorate after the ICO

Being an investor, I would say they deserve to have a buy back program, after all it's the team's decision because they control the total amount of money raised during the ICO. With a buy back program, investors will happily accept it because it will help the price to stay at ICO price or increase the value, either way, it brings positive result to the investors.

However, there should be some kind of limitation because amounts collected should be allocated more on the development side.

So how is it not a good way? Buying back is one of the most visible way to say that the team is doing its job to protect their investor from great losses and thus we can say that the team is being dedicated to the project.

no problem, but based on what often happens, the token after launching in the market will decrease as the dump occurs. so it's better to buy before ico.

The recent market has proven to us that there is no need for ICOs. If they want to issue tokens or coins, they should just issue them and list them on an exchange. Investors will then buy the tokens for its usage. There is no sense in buying and then waiting for listing on an exchange. Investors keep making loses each and every day.