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Dear community, your favorite Crash game is now live on TRON!

20 TRX sign up bonus:

1. Sign up on https://tron.crash365.io/
2. Post your username below in this thread and we will tip you 20 trx to your account.
3. Minimum withdraw is 100trx, no other catches :)

Provably Fair:

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Enjoy the game!

user arisatox

thank you!

Username: Lupo123

Thank you  :)

All the gambling sites that are created in the TRON network use Tronlink in order to let users log in to their accounts and play at your casino. This way earnings are directly credited to their balance. As I can see you don't give this option, we have to register and create an account to the website before playing(?), what is the point of that?

Also the website is kinda messed up, I get sometimes English and some buttons appear in my native language.

Crash game is the same as Tronbet introduced and called it MOON.

I would like to give it a shoot though and see who it works.

Username for bonus: Naida_BR

Hi Naida_BR. I'll list some of the difference between crash365.io and tronbet's Moon.

1. House edge. crash365.io has a house edge of average 0.5% over long run, tronbet's Moon has a much much higher edge than this.
2. crash365.io is using a community known provably fair system. Tronbet's Moon, I have no idea what type of algorithm they are using, it's a dapp and the code is not open source, therefore not decentralized like a dapp is suppose to be.

You are welcome to test both sites, do 10000 mini bets, you'll notice very big difference in profit/loss/variance between both sites.

Thank you for your very fast response!

I have made some bets and I can state that I am really impressed by how fast each round occurs. Games are going smooth, no bugs etc.
It seems that the house edge is very low as well. Indeed, as far as I know, tronbet is not open source and we don't know the exact code they are using.

I will definitely spend some time on the game and come back to the thread if something else comes up.

L0veLaz

Thank you  :)

EverythingBTC

Thank you!

You must be joking right?of course every crash games is always use bustabit v1 open source code which is the design is exactly as same as bustabit because they are the first team and the first site that make this crashing game and even there is tons of similar site towards this and nowadays the very popular is by using the source code and changing the crypto and thats all, new site is coming out. So I do not think you can be impressed with some of this sites

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Dont know whats the thing he do talk about source code.Its clear that all crash games excluding the first bustabit are just simply using the same.

The following sites have purchased a non-distributable copy of the previous
version of bustabit's source code, exempting them from the requirements of the
AGPL:

 * crash365.io

username: donuts1234

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cool site you got here my username is coinmagis

Looking to try it out , my username : Kirito89

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You've stated that the house edge is only 0.5 % , I watched the game last night quite a bit to analize it , and for example in 6 plays it happened 4 times for it to crash at 0 % , find it very hard to believe that this was random.

username : grindcomber

It's proven provably fair, same algorithm being used by old bustabit, ethercrash etc. Random is random, expect high variance.

Username: cento96

Thanks in advance!

Hi , I've reseted my password as I didn't write down the old one , and it generates a new password for me but when I try to log-in it says password incorrect.

Hi, did you put an email in your account? If yes, then the password is recoverable.

If no to the email question and you do not have any credit in your account, creating a new account would be the easiest solution.

If you have credit in your account, let me know and I will help you resolve the problem.

Hi , I have an email put to the account , and I receive the recover password email , but even though a new password is generated , when I put the new password it says password incorrect.

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username: dildo

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Hi there. Comment on the side, your Page information still says "Bitcoin" social game, and not Tron, which means you probably took the same script from bustabit, so hope you can fix that or give the proper credit.

Also, chat is only available for people who play 10 games, so maybe give a tiny, tiny faucet that means nothing just so people can test it out.

Oh and by the way, username is "slaman29". Thank you in advance!

Username:Jaran9

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p.s. thanks for the feedback slaman29, we are handling.

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Username: fairness
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Username: CNNsucks



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Like I said before that there is no any single site that really create their own crash games, everyone is copying exactly the same source from bustabit open souece and that is why there is no way to play on any others similar site. Will only stay on the original one and use their v2 site. OP does not even clarify that they are using bustabit script or not and that means they just admit it, yet they still saying it is a new

I want to try it out: deisik

But could anyone (preferably OP) explain to me in a few words what this game is all about (for OP preferably in the opening post)? I looked into it but I couldn't get a clue, really. It doesn't look like dice (that's the reason I am kind of interested) and it promises there's 1% of skill involved, which also seems interesting to me (provided it's true, of course), but there's no help or any other description regarding how to play this game

It's a crash game similar to bustabit the only difference is that they only accept TRX instead of BTC. If you don't know how a crash game works you basically place your bet wait for the multiplier to go up once it's high enough press cashout before it crashes if you fail to cashout you lose it all. The game involves 1% skill because there are instances where rounds crashes too early (x1 or x1.01) you can avoid them by skipping those kind of rounds and wait for the right time.

thanks for the explanation ralle14  ;)

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Well, I couldn't play more than a few rounds (now running it in auto-mode)

It is essentially the same as dice (in respect to house edge), though in dice you don't have to wait, I mean, too long until your fate is decided. Though I still don't understand how skill is involved here. Care to explain? Anyway, if there is actually a certain bit of skill present, it would be possible to beat the house edge. Then it will be basically free money, and I don't think you can really expect the casino to pay it (unless it is somehow balanced out by other players' losses, of course). What part did I not understand?

Getting curious about the game, let see if my last strategy from  bustabit will work under this new house, by the way OP my username is caliber33
allow me to use the free 20 trx and test how things will be similarly works under the bustabit script, good luck and thanks in advance.

I have made an account and my username is Eden, I just waiting for the OP credited my account.

I like playing dice and it seems like this game has the same rule as dice, am I right?

I just created an account, waiting for my bonus, it's not automatic right?
Have not started betting yet because the bonus was not yet credited into my account, try to explore this more but I notice
it has only limited features, is this the same as the dice game? And by the way, explain more about the Leader board, what is gross profit and net profit?

The bonus is a special prize that is awarded to the last people to cash out before the game crashed. Getting the bonus is critical to skillful playing of crash365, as it is the only way to overcome house odds.

p.s. 1% of each player's stake goes into the bonus pot. So if there are 4 players, betting 400, 300, 200, and 100, there will be 10 bits in the pot. If the biggest player wins, he gets the whole pot. The site works out the rate he would be getting if he won, ie. 400 bits bet gives 10 bits bonus - or 1/40th bonus per bit bet. It then applies the same rate to whoever actually wins.

I still don't get it

Well, I understand that the last man standing kinda gets the biggest slice of the pie (let it be jackpot or whatever), though I still don't get what that has to do with skill. Do you become more skillful at pressing the cashout button? Maybe, you do, but I don't see how it can actually help you beat the house edge. You say it is the only way to overcome house odds, but is it the same as turning odds in your favor?

Just credited to caliber33 and Eden, sorry for the delay and enjoy the game.

Relating to the 1% skils involved, it is possible to play crash as a +EV game using Bonus Chasing strategies by taking the 1% bonus from other players.

The Bonus Chasing strategy is more easily executable playing it manually by predicting the cash out multiplier of your peers, 1. cash out immediatley and hope the game crashes early, 2. cash out immediately after the bigger betters cash out. It is also executable with a well written bonus chasing script.

username : togechu

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username:CNNsucks

Thanks and I'm now playing with this free bonus, enjoying if you understand the concept and you are willing to take the risk 1% skills might be the right term since there's no real strategy that will work with this type game, as we know that gambling is gambling so if luck will not permits you then there's no other results after playing but to completely being busted.

togechu & CNNsucks both credited.

And yes, it's still gambling even if it's +EV. We are on the gambling section of the forum.

On that classic bustabit game 99% luck 1% skill line is just really similar since crash365 uses the same script. The skill being said is basically about on how a player
would able to cash out before it crashes but i dont know about on the thing he do said about overcoming the house odds. ??? ???

The game itself looks really promising and entertaining which is all you look for on a casino however it is also another question if tron is the right coin for this. Tron has been having troubles lately and there is this https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/01/13/tron-project-accused-of-misleading-developers-in-1-million-dapp-contest/ .

I mean if tron is accused of pocketing 1 million in prizes for their contest how long before Tron coin itself becomes a fraud and not seen as a good coin in investors minds, while you buy tron to play in this casino you might lose value in tron and even if you win in this casino (which is against a casinos purpose) you would be losing money because of the dropping price of tron.

This has nothing to do with the casino and they could be legit and great but I would highly suggest implementing other coins as well.

Username : PendiGoo

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I've never played bustabit whatever

And how is the player supposed to cash out before it crashes if this is exactly how he is expected to lose? If you can beat the house with this skill, why isn't everybody playing there or rather, why hasn't the casino been ruined yet? I don't necessarily mean to say that there's no skill involved in the game, I just can't wrap my head around how it can be used in a purposeful way if it actually is

Username: Wheelwin

Nice! I luv bustabit! Gonna luv this for sure! Thanks for the giveaway!

Username : kioseki

The design is the default simple design of crash game, it's nice and to-the-point, but some graphical innovation would sure make it look better.

Thats how crashgame is all about which do have 99% luck which supposed to be 100% but they do tag 1% skill to make it more little different.I agree that we cant beat up the house no matter what.
If that 1% is really a big deal then why we cant just ask bustabit owner about this line eh?  ;D

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I also don't agree on what OP said it's misleading. The bonus could reduce the house edge but you can't beat the house with it since there's a guarantee crash. Aiming for the bonus would only give you more losses because of how each round is so unpredictable. And if you're the only player in the site there won't be any bonus to play for. At the end of the day it's still a luck based game it requires a little bit of skill but having such skill won't be enough for us to win (long term).

It's a bit confusing, but there's basically two games happening at the same time. One is 99% of the (average) payout, which is against the house and "try guess when the game busts". This purely luck, as there's no way to guess when the game will bust (or at least, there shouldn't be).


But the interesting part is other 1%  which is actually a player-vs-player game, which is you're competing against other players to cash out after them (but before the game busts). There's a surprising amount of possible strategy involved, and it's all pretty dynamic depending how other people are playing (and if they're ignoring you, or fighting you for the bonuses).

Hopefully that puts enough context that if you read about how the bonuses, it'll make a bit more sense.

nick ; donnakaran

ty awesome giveaway

Okay, this is something worthy of inspection

So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else

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Username: proTECH77
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Well define API but still need more graphics to outshow its beauty like every other provably fair game.

We are working on other coins :)

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Relating to the 1% skills involved and whether it is possible to beat the house edge? The short answer is yes, I have personally seen players that do pretty well over long run, I do ok myself on other sites and is still improving my bonus chasing scripts to make it more intelligent and more robust.

You do really got the point on where im even not believing that this 1% luck is really relevant. Cashing out before bust or trying to be the last one to gain the bonus do really still need some extreme luck.
No skills involved actually.

Where do you use that 1% skill on any similar game? I do not think there is any site that really based on some skills except poker games, I can't even think about any site when it comes to skill games. It seems that 1% of this can really make a huge change as well not saying from abusing but it is still possible that they can do this thing, keep on getting the bonus which is really hard for big site like bustabit handle and that is why they remove it

Actually, I went there and tried it out

And no, it doesn't make sense since no skill is in fact involved as it turns out to be no more than an empty statement, alas. You just wait until someone cashes out and then quickly cash out yourself (provided you don't get terminated before, of course). Thus you will have a certain percentage of the total bonus credited to your account (you may wait for two players to cash out and so on). There's essentially nothing else you can do as I got it. Personally, I can't call that a skill like the one you need in poker

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username: justfor1

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No need for us to have further arguments about that 1% thing yet we are already derailing this thread.  ;D 

No, actually there is something you can do! Let's say you're both betting X, and your opponent refuses to cashout before you. All you really need to do is set your cashout to something like 10x, then use a second account and cashout at 1x. Doing that your expected profit will be around ~0.4% (?) and thus a profitable strategy.

Of course if your opponent is also playing for bonuses, he will notice you doing this and try take advantage of it. So it's quite dynamic, but probably the biggest part of the skill is knowing when and when it doesn't make sense to bet.

But to put it in perspective, BaB originally had the same bonus scheme and through pure skilled play (i.e. +EV with good bankroll management) someone managed to net over a million dollars in a year in profit.

Well, this idea of a second account never came to me

Perhaps, I'm too honest for this kind of thing? It looks like I still don't quite understand how your scheme is supposed to work (it doesn't mean that it won't, of course). So you say I should have two accounts and with one of them to cash out immediately. If this is the case, I still fail to see how it is going to work. That account would be pretty much useless as I see it, though it may be worth trying after all

Nevertheless, If I'm wrong and your scheme is in fact working, why not then simply create a dozen of accounts and make them all cash out at 1, thereby increasing your expected profit?


That moment when you feel like a complete loser and failure

My scheme does work, but it only works under a specific scenario (the one you created: where two players are trying to cash out high). Creating a dozen accounts and cashing out at 1x would be an absolutely terrible strategy though, because the person you're "targetting" would likely cash out early and collect lots of bonuses.

99% of the time, all strategies can be done with 2 or less accounts. I don't think there's anything wrong with multi-accounting either.  But the real important thing to remember is that the whole bonus system is effectively "player-vs-player" and you are winning money from other players (or if you do badly: they're winning from you).  And you have to bet them by a significant margin (as you're always also paying the house-edge to play). So generally the biggest problem is finding a good time to bet  (how other people are betting, and enough volume).

Anyway, you can pretty easily play around with the min-bet and see if you can get your average bonus above 1%, which means you're making more from the bonus system than you're losing to it.  If your average cash out is 1x (there's no house edge at that multiplier) then you'd be playing profitably.  If your average cash out is 2x,  it means you need to have an average bonus of 1.5% to play profitably. If your average cash out is really high, you need an average bonus of like 1.9%.

So there's a surprising amount of strategy to what looks like a simple game. (But the big problem is, you need a huge amount of action happening for it to be worth your time. If the bonus pool for a round of a game is $1, it's never going to make too much sense playing strictly for bonuses)

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I didn't mean just cashing out at 1x with all your accounts. With one account you fight with other players for cashing out the last, while the army of your other accounts cashes out immediately at 1x. Does it make any difference? Besides, you don't necessarily have to cash out all at once as you can use one account for every other player in the room, cashing out after they are done (one after another)


Well, I can't say that I understand everything that you just wrote but thanks anyway for your thorough explanation. I hope it will be useful to someone who decides to actually try it out in practice. More power to them


I agree, it is hard to wrap one's head around all this without actually engaging in this kind of game and getting the hang of how it works and feels


Yes, that's likely the only point in your explanation that makes complete sense to me. Anyway, if a similar site has an API, you can create a cash-out bot and then unleash a war of bots. Though I don't know how human players are going to feel then and whether they will like the idea of being cannon fodder for you and your army of bots. On the other hand, you can always use a script

Someone likely already did this

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Edit: I will also leave a quite detailed review upon playing.

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hello my login:  masnikov

I am back with the review of your site as promised. Sorry for being too late. So here are some of my opinions;
First of all I must admit that initially I was quite sceptical about the your site but as soon as I received no deposit bonus and started playing there things completely changed. My over all betting experience was so smooth and fast. Fortunately I did cashed out from you no deposit bonus, cash out was instant even for the no deposit bonus. I must say I am quite impressed by automatic cash out option, please keep it that way in future also.
Sign up process is little bit tricky for first time tron users as they have to install an extension or create another wallet but it does not matter. One more thing I have to say that please remove the condition of making at least 10 bet before being able to chat because it is the new users who want this feature for signup purposes.
I wish you best of luck for your future journey.

What is max percentage which crash can't pass this line or when does auto cash out happen? I also want to test this crash game and share my feedback based on my experience :)
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great thanks got my 25 TRX sign up bonus.
And started to gamble with it a little but iam the only player here  :'(
Is it possible to invest in this casion ?

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