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January 15, 2019, 09:52:46 AM
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But the interesting part is other 1%  which is actually a player-vs-player game, which is you're competing against other players to cash out after them (but before the game busts). There's a surprising amount of possible strategy involved, and it's all pretty dynamic depending how other people are playing (and if they're ignoring you, or fighting you for the bonuses).

Hopefully that puts enough context that if you read about how the bonuses, it'll make a bit more sense.

Okay, this is something worthy of inspection

So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else

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January 15, 2019, 11:49:56 AM
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Well define API but still need more graphics to outshow its beauty like every other provably fair game.

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January 15, 2019, 12:28:38 PM
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The game itself looks really promising and entertaining which is all you look for on a casino however it is also another question if tron is the right coin for this. Tron has been having troubles lately and there is this https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/01/13/tron-project-accused-of-misleading-developers-in-1-million-dapp-contest/ .

I mean if tron is accused of pocketing 1 million in prizes for their contest how long before Tron coin itself becomes a fraud and not seen as a good coin in investors minds, while you buy tron to play in this casino you might lose value in tron and even if you win in this casino (which is against a casinos purpose) you would be losing money because of the dropping price of tron.

This has nothing to do with the casino and they could be legit and great but I would highly suggest implementing other coins as well.

We are working on other coins Smiley

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Relating to the 1% skills involved and whether it is possible to beat the house edge? The short answer is yes, I have personally seen players that do pretty well over long run, I do ok myself on other sites and is still improving my bonus chasing scripts to make it more intelligent and more robust.
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January 15, 2019, 12:59:30 PM
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But the interesting part is other 1%  which is actually a player-vs-player game, which is you're competing against other players to cash out after them (but before the game busts). There's a surprising amount of possible strategy involved, and it's all pretty dynamic depending how other people are playing (and if they're ignoring you, or fighting you for the bonuses).

Hopefully that puts enough context that if you read about how the bonuses, it'll make a bit more sense.

Okay, this is something worthy of inspection

So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else
You do really got the point on where im even not believing that this 1% luck is really relevant. Cashing out before bust or trying to be the last one to gain the bonus do really still need some extreme luck.
No skills involved actually.

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January 15, 2019, 04:00:49 PM
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I still don't get it

Well, I understand that the last man standing kinda gets the biggest slice of the pie (let it be jackpot or whatever), though I still don't get what that has to do with skill. Do you become more skillful at pressing the cashout button? Maybe, you do, but I don't see how it can actually help you beat the house edge. You say it is the only way to overcome house odds, but is it the same as turning odds in your favor?
On that classic bustabit game 99% luck 1% skill line is just really similar since crash365 uses the same script. The skill being said is basically about on how a player would able to cash out before it crashes but i dont know about on the thing he do said about overcoming the house odds. Huh Huh

I've never played bustabit whatever

And how is the player supposed to cash out before it crashes if this is exactly how he is expected to lose? If you can beat the house with this skill, why isn't everybody playing there or rather, why hasn't the casino been ruined yet? I don't necessarily mean to say that there's no skill involved in the game, I just can't wrap my head around how it can be used in a purposeful way if it actually is
Thats how crashgame is all about which do have 99% luck which supposed to be 100% but they do tag 1% skill to make it more little different.I agree that we cant beat up the house no matter what.
If that 1% is really a big deal then why we cant just ask bustabit owner about this line eh?  Grin

Where do you use that 1% skill on any similar game? I do not think there is any site that really based on some skills except poker games, I can't even think about any site when it comes to skill games. It seems that 1% of this can really make a huge change as well not saying from abusing but it is still possible that they can do this thing, keep on getting the bonus which is really hard for big site like bustabit handle and that is why they remove it
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January 15, 2019, 04:33:29 PM
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I've never played bustabit whatever

And how is the player supposed to cash out before it crashes if this is exactly how he is expected to lose? If you can beat the house with this skill, why isn't everybody playing there or rather, why hasn't the casino been ruined yet? I don't necessarily mean to say that there's no skill involved in the game, I just can't wrap my head around how it can be used in a purposeful way if it actually is
Thats how crashgame is all about which do have 99% luck which supposed to be 100% but they do tag 1% skill to make it more little different.I agree that we cant beat up the house no matter what.
If that 1% is really a big deal then why we cant just ask bustabit owner about this line eh?  Grin

Where do you use that 1% skill on any similar game? I do not think there is any site that really based on some skills except poker games, I can't even think about any site when it comes to skill games. It seems that 1% of this can really make a huge change as well not saying from abusing but it is still possible that they can do this thing, keep on getting the bonus which is really hard for big site like bustabit handle and that is why they remove it

Actually, I went there and tried it out

And no, it doesn't make sense since no skill is in fact involved as it turns out to be no more than an empty statement, alas. You just wait until someone cashes out and then quickly cash out yourself (provided you don't get terminated before, of course). Thus you will have a certain percentage of the total bonus credited to your account (you may wait for two players to cash out and so on). There's essentially nothing else you can do as I got it. Personally, I can't call that a skill like the one you need in poker

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January 15, 2019, 05:02:33 PM
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January 16, 2019, 03:26:39 AM
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I've never played bustabit whatever

And how is the player supposed to cash out before it crashes if this is exactly how he is expected to lose? If you can beat the house with this skill, why isn't everybody playing there or rather, why hasn't the casino been ruined yet? I don't necessarily mean to say that there's no skill involved in the game, I just can't wrap my head around how it can be used in a purposeful way if it actually is
Thats how crashgame is all about which do have 99% luck which supposed to be 100% but they do tag 1% skill to make it more little different.I agree that we cant beat up the house no matter what.
If that 1% is really a big deal then why we cant just ask bustabit owner about this line eh?  Grin

Where do you use that 1% skill on any similar game? I do not think there is any site that really based on some skills except poker games, I can't even think about any site when it comes to skill games. It seems that 1% of this can really make a huge change as well not saying from abusing but it is still possible that they can do this thing, keep on getting the bonus which is really hard for big site like bustabit handle and that is why they remove it

Actually, I went there and tried it out

And no, it doesn't make sense since no skill is in fact involved as it turns out to be no more than an empty statement, alas. You just wait until someone cashes out and then quickly cash out yourself (provided you don't get terminated before, of course). Thus you will have a certain percentage of the total bonus credited to your account (you may wait for two players to cash out and so on). There's essentially nothing else you can do as I got it. Personally, I can't call that a skill like the one you need in poker
No need for us to have further arguments about that 1% thing yet we are already derailing this thread.  Grin 

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January 16, 2019, 04:38:16 PM
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So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else

No, actually there is something you can do! Let's say you're both betting X, and your opponent refuses to cashout before you. All you really need to do is set your cashout to something like 10x, then use a second account and cashout at 1x. Doing that your expected profit will be around ~0.4% (?) and thus a profitable strategy.

Of course if your opponent is also playing for bonuses, he will notice you doing this and try take advantage of it. So it's quite dynamic, but probably the biggest part of the skill is knowing when and when it doesn't make sense to bet.

But to put it in perspective, BaB originally had the same bonus scheme and through pure skilled play (i.e. +EV with good bankroll management) someone managed to net over a million dollars in a year in profit.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else

No, actually there is something you can do! Let's say you're both betting X, and your opponent refuses to cashout before you. All you really need to do is set your cashout to something like 10x, then use a second account and cashout at 1x. Doing that your expected profit will be around ~0.4% (?) and thus a profitable strategy

Well, this idea of a second account never came to me

Perhaps, I'm too honest for this kind of thing? It looks like I still don't quite understand how your scheme is supposed to work (it doesn't mean that it won't, of course). So you say I should have two accounts and with one of them to cash out immediately. If this is the case, I still fail to see how it is going to work. That account would be pretty much useless as I see it, though it may be worth trying after all

Nevertheless, If I'm wrong and your scheme is in fact working, why not then simply create a dozen of accounts and make them all cash out at 1, thereby increasing your expected profit?

But to put it in perspective, BaB originally had the same bonus scheme and through pure skilled play (i.e. +EV with good bankroll management) someone managed to net over a million dollars in a year in profit

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Nevertheless, If I'm wrong and your scheme is in fact working, why not then simply create a dozen of accounts and make them all cash out at 1, thereby increasing your expected profit?

My scheme does work, but it only works under a specific scenario (the one you created: where two players are trying to cash out high). Creating a dozen accounts and cashing out at 1x would be an absolutely terrible strategy though, because the person you're "targetting" would likely cash out early and collect lots of bonuses.

99% of the time, all strategies can be done with 2 or less accounts. I don't think there's anything wrong with multi-accounting either.  But the real important thing to remember is that the whole bonus system is effectively "player-vs-player" and you are winning money from other players (or if you do badly: they're winning from you).  And you have to bet them by a significant margin (as you're always also paying the house-edge to play). So generally the biggest problem is finding a good time to bet  (how other people are betting, and enough volume).

Anyway, you can pretty easily play around with the min-bet and see if you can get your average bonus above 1%, which means you're making more from the bonus system than you're losing to it.  If your average cash out is 1x (there's no house edge at that multiplier) then you'd be playing profitably.  If your average cash out is 2x,  it means you need to have an average bonus of 1.5% to play profitably. If your average cash out is really high, you need an average bonus of like 1.9%.

So there's a surprising amount of strategy to what looks like a simple game. (But the big problem is, you need a huge amount of action happening for it to be worth your time. If the bonus pool for a round of a game is $1, it's never going to make too much sense playing strictly for bonuses)

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