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Title: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Butterscotch Cartman on January 14, 2019, 03:11:46 PM
Yes I am against crypto, it is complete shit, our current financial system is 100x better, no one wants to be their own bank, look what fucking happens when you are your own bank. what a joke.


I posted the following in this thread and it was deleted:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080741.0
This is why crypto is garbage.  If someone steals your bank account information or credit card you can actually retrieve your money back!!! crypto is complete shit."

Someone had to say the truth.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: S_Therapist on January 14, 2019, 03:16:40 PM
If someone steals your bank account information or credit card you can actually retrieve your money back!!! crypto is complete shit."
Give Bangladesh $81 million back which has been stolen from Federal Reserve Bank of New York (https://www.wired.com/2016/05/insane-81m-bangladesh-bank-heist-heres-know/), I with a lot of people will give up giving a shit to crypto. By the way, why you are here then?

And, your post doesn't suit to be here.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Alone055 on January 14, 2019, 03:17:12 PM
If your current financial system is 100x better then simply stay with it. No one is forced to use cryptocurrencies. People use them to earn profit (most of the times) and then get hacked/robbed for their own lack of securing their funds and then start shouting and abusing the systems.
If you can't manage something, don't get into it. It is as simple as that.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: mOgliE on January 14, 2019, 03:22:19 PM
You were deleted because that's off topic.

Bitcointalk is probably the most free place I know. You can say whatever you want here.

Just be on topic. That's the nearly only rule.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Butterscotch Cartman on January 14, 2019, 03:23:28 PM
If someone steals your bank account information or credit card you can actually retrieve your money back!!! crypto is complete shit."
Give Bangladesh $81 million back which has been stolen from Federal Reserve Bank of New York (https://www.wired.com/2016/05/insane-81m-bangladesh-bank-heist-heres-know/), I with a lot of people will give up giving a shit to crypto. By the way, why you are here then?

And, your post doesn't suit to be here.

Your missing the point butter, average joes have their bank accounts insured by the federal government.  GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting back your stolen crypto.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: mOgliE on January 14, 2019, 03:25:13 PM
Your missing the point butter, average joes have their bank accounts insured by the federal government.  GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting back your stolen crypto.

You're missing the point of crypto...

Crypto means you're your own bank. If you do shit you're responsible. If you're careful you won't ever get stolen. Especially you won't have to deal with the fucking banking system that is actually failing faster than what anyone could have thought.


Edit after the good remark of bones261.

Nevertheless your post was simply off topic. So was this post before my edit and would anyone report it it would have been deleted.

There isn't any political view in bitcointalk moderation, not even a pro coin view. It's simply a question of being legal, constructive and on topic. Anything else is not important.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: YOSHIE on January 14, 2019, 03:51:34 PM

I posted the following in this thread and it was deleted:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080741.0

Someone had to say the truth.
If you already understand cryptocurrency correctly, then you must already know clearly what bitcoin / cryptocurrency is, Crypto is the most popular digital currency today with a value that defeats the value of gold. Fantastic isn't it.

Defining the advantages and disadvantages of Cryptocurrency / Bitcoin will basically represent crypto currencies in general, with the Hash Rate (the level of complexity of cryptographic algorithms) public trust is also increasingly guaranteed to avoid risks such as forgery. Such trust also helped the development of a global community that strengthened its position as a currency that was not easily shaken by the condition of the community.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: bones261 on January 14, 2019, 04:12:32 PM
@ OP. Plenty of your posts pointing out why you feel cryptocurrency is a fraud have not been deleted. You have had ample opportunity to spread your message. If Bitcointalk truly wanted to censor your message, they would have nuked your account, getting rid of all or you posts. Your post in the Bitcoin Technical support was likely deleted because it was off topic. Your post offered no technical advise to the OP of that thread to either recoup their coins (which you are correct is next to impossible) or to prevent this from happening in the future. I suppose that you can argue that you were giving advise, which was not to get involved in crypto in the 1st place. The moderator of that board likely deleted your post because they felt that your post may derail the conversation away from assisting the victim, to a discussion on the irreversibility of cryptocurrency transactions. Quite frankly, I think the topic in particular should be locked, since lately none of the posts are focused on assisting the OP of that thread.

Just a word of advise for the people participating in this thread. Since this conversation is in meta, it should be constrained to talking about the fact that the OPs post was deleted and the merits, both good and bad of that moderation. If the OP and others wish to discuss the irreversibility of cryptocurrency, open another topic in a board that is more appropriate than meta.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Lauda on January 14, 2019, 05:07:41 PM
Your missing the point butter, average joes have their bank accounts insured by the federal government.  GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting back your stolen crypto.
Insured on paper, until a bank run happens and you get next to nothing. You sound like an alt account of somebody we all know very well in Speculation. ::) Now go away.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: HODL2090 on January 14, 2019, 05:44:38 PM
Your missing the point butter, average joes have their bank accounts insured by the federal government.  GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting back your stolen crypto.

So your are judging cryptocurrency solely based on the possibility of it getting stolen or hacked. Which is more likely to happen only when you outsource your assets on an exchange?
Responsibility is one that comes with decentralization. Complete control over your assets with no interference from governments or agencies.
If you feel safer with banks, you are under no obligation to change.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on January 14, 2019, 06:57:43 PM
If someone steals your bank account information or credit card you can actually retrieve your money back!!! crypto is complete shit."
Give Bangladesh $81 million back which has been stolen from Federal Reserve Bank of New York (https://www.wired.com/2016/05/insane-81m-bangladesh-bank-heist-heres-know/), I with a lot of people will give up giving a shit to crypto. By the way, why you are here then?

And, your post doesn't suit to be here.

Your missing the point butter, average joes have their bank accounts insured by the federal government.  GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting back your stolen crypto.

Take basic security measures and you're crypto will never get stolen.

1. Don't store crypto on an exchange.
2. Buy a hardware wallet.
3. Create a paper wallet and store it in several places.



Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: jackg on January 14, 2019, 07:16:46 PM
If the current financial system is so great, why do we have to keep bailing out the banks every 20 or so years.

Let's take it this way:
The issue with the current financial system is that if you want a loan, interest is at 4% pa, while inflation is between 2 and 3, do you not spot the issue?

If banks were happy to charge less interest then sure the system might have some hope but telling a bank to cut it's profits by half isn't going to go down well...


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Lesbian Cow on January 14, 2019, 07:32:23 PM
  If someone steals your bank account information or credit card you can actually retrieve your money back!!! crypto is complete shit."



Not if it is your government that stole (seized) your monies....


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: BTCMILLIONAIRE on January 14, 2019, 11:13:33 PM
Custody services. Point in case.


It's all about the option of full freedom, which simply does not exist in legacy finance. There are tons of crypto bears and deniers here by the way, so if you're getting "censored" it's because you're being a twat.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: El duderino_ on January 14, 2019, 11:24:25 PM
^
he will never learn....
he will when he's feeding he's heating stove with those banknotes :D


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Welsh on January 15, 2019, 02:38:17 AM
You'll find that there's quite a few users here who are openly against Bitcoin, and related technologies. You aren't the only one, and as long as the post is constructive, and on topic it won't be removed. We don't really care what your opinion on cryptocurrencies is from a moderation view point.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: UserU on January 15, 2019, 03:52:53 AM
You come to a crypto-related forum and simply spread anti-crypto sentiments, no doubt you'd get loads of hate.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Hueristic on January 15, 2019, 05:08:44 AM
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic in that same thread?


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: bones261 on January 15, 2019, 05:12:43 AM
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic in that same thread?

In the Bitcoin Technical Support board? Most definitely.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: suchmoon on January 15, 2019, 05:15:26 AM
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic in that same thread?

In the Bitcoin Technical Support board? Most definitely.

... if someone reported it. Mods don't read every post in every thread. But yeah it's most definitely off-topic there.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: bones261 on January 15, 2019, 05:17:01 AM
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic in that same thread?

In the Bitcoin Technical Support board? Most definitely.

... if someone reported it. Mods don't read every post in every thread. But yeah it's most definitely off-topic there.

Well I do read almost everything in that thread. You think that I would let that pass without reporting to moderator?  :D


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Hueristic on January 15, 2019, 07:21:17 AM
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic in that same thread?

In the Bitcoin Technical Support board? Most definitely.

Was that a poor analogy? :)


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 15, 2019, 07:26:45 AM
I posted the following in this thread and it was deleted:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080741.0
I thought this might be for going off-topic in someone's ban appeal thread, which you did yesterday.  You started an off-topic rant about bitcoin, and it wasn't called for.  Start your own thread if you've got something to say.  Even if you hate bitcoin and think it's a scam and that bitcoiners are a stupid lot, it's not likely your posts or thread are going to get deleted just for your opinions--but you've got to be on-topic within a thread, at least a little. 

We all can stray from the topic at hand at times (guilty myself), but the stuff you wrote in the ban appeal thread was obviously the wrong place for it.  I don't usually report posts for being off-topic, but yours were obviously in the wrong place.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: El duderino_ on January 15, 2019, 04:05:23 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094269.0

^btw @ Butterscotch Cartman, in here type of guys as you..... WILL ALWAYS BE ON TOPIC ;)

have fun there, hope to see you there with your FIAT DELUSION


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: Mpamaegbu on January 16, 2019, 08:11:14 AM
You were deleted because that's off topic.

Bitcointalk is probably the most free place I know. You can say whatever you want here.

Just be on topic. That's the nearly only rule.
That's not entirely true, at least with the numerous 'Self Moderated' threads you will experience first class dictatorship and hostile deletion of posts OP feels run contrary to their opinion. Honestly, I believe Theymos should expunge the privileges of self moderating threads. It's long overdue.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: mOgliE on January 16, 2019, 09:40:50 AM
That's not entirely true, at least with the numerous 'Self Moderated' threads you will experience first class dictatorship and hostile deletion of posts OP feels run contrary to their opinion. Honestly, I believe Theymos should expunge the privileges of self moderating threads. It's long overdue.

Self moderated threads are made to be censored.

I usually open such threads myself to insta delete comments from some people. But they know it and they usually create another thread ot answer mine.

You can say whatever you want here. Just be on topic.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: darklus123 on January 16, 2019, 11:17:25 AM
I don't know if I should call those men and black to look for you (because it is clear to me that there is another alien on this forum). Who's trying to be a dog but is actually an ugly dumbass creature from somewhere else in the universe.

Now if you don't want that you will be detained by the main in black agency go back to your planet.


Title: Re: CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE
Post by: madnessteat on January 16, 2019, 03:45:47 PM
~crypto is complete shit~

Paper money can be printed as much as you want and this is their main disadvantage. Try to learn more about cryptography, it is really unique. Cryptography is the future!