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Could we not have the option of transparent polls? I would love to click and see who voted for what.

As the poll starter it would be nice to select transparent voting only

Because most people don't want the pollster to know perhaps? ::)

Is it allowed to any voting system?

 Transparent polls might stop people from voting against the "gang" don't you think so?

Not sure what you mean, but I doubt Theymos has the time for such nonsense changes. People are less apt to vote if the pollster can see who voted for what. .... Truth.. 

Not just the poller - everyone can see.

I mean they have the choice they can vote or not vote if they are worried about others seeing how they vote.

I would have thought this forum already had this capacity but is muted atm

@mikey (i have no wish to make every post about the gang forever more) anyway ...People tell me that although  "the gang" all are in each others top 10 fans and receivers, and although they all vote for each other on DT1 and although they gang up on every thread I mention about the "non existing gang" that actually there is no " collusion" and no "gang".

 I must face it that meta twilight zone is not receptive to this corroborating evidence or in general even observable FACTs.  So when I can avoid talking about the gang I will leave it out unless people like yourself mention it. Thanks for mentioning it.

Back to the transparent polls.

Public voting systems are generally bad in my opinion. Even if you don't care that people know what you are voting you will likely take into consideration what others might think of you even subconsciously. Which could actually reflect on the voting result negatively. By having anonymous votes it allows you to use your initiative without worrying what others might think of that. If you want your voice to be heard then you can always have a discussion within the thread. However, I would vote in favour of keeping all votes anonymous.

Also, bare in mind how much of a headache it would be to display hundreds of individual voters, and what they voted.

If voting wasn't anonymous, all members of the foxhole butt-sniffing pussy-petting trust/merit club/cult/gang would vote the same way out of fear of being punished by Lauda/suchmoon/whoever's in charge this week. As you're such a big proponent of FREE SPEECH, I'm sure you don't want that.

I've thought about it before as a poll option, and I think that it would be useful, but implementing it has never approached the top of my to-do list.

A transparent poll can be conducted by creating a thread that poses a question. Those that reply "vote" with their posts.

I don't see what the problem is.

Polls voted on the forum are normally lucky to scratch anywhere near a hundred responses or so. Statistically, in relation to the number of active forum members, most are not significant enough to conclude, and are often biased in accordance to the board they are placed in. 

On the other hand, they can be interpreted as relevant within as small subset of the forum (i.e. what do the "frequent" posters on Meta think about so and so as opposed to a question such as "have you tested lightning network" which would require a larger audience and response).

Even so, nominal/anonymous polls could be a custom selected option by the OP, just as the decision to make a thread self-moderated (on some boards).

I think the Transparent system or the openness of a decision made by the way or mechanism or regulation that is set is not right my thinking,
For reasons: information relating to organizations is easily and freely available and can be accessed by those affected by the policy,
And maintaining the balance of the forum information that should not be known by the public, which is often referred to as "confidential", then there must be clear / specific criteria for that.

Even though Theymos has said no, we should just say yes to shut Op up

I like how you read that his reply ..you dumb fool.

Now remain silent unless you have something sensible to say.

What FACT are you using to make this baseless statement?

You need me to explain why you are a dumb fool all over again.... that would simply make you even dumber.

But if you need it explained again just ask and I will provide.

It would be a helpful alternative option I think. I've suggested in the past that you should also be able to limit voting to specific rank as well (Ie only Senior Members and above can cast a vote (but you could chose the member group yourself)). In certain issues it would be helpful to exclude lower ranks. It would also limit manipulation and abuse from alts.


Yes. Maybe not general governmental elections but many other voting systems are done so publicly.  Anonymous voting has it's place but so does public voting (and they both have positive and negatives).

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/12/21/ap-17102710513644-0.jpg


They would be free to create their own anonymous poll.


This is generally the issue, but you can set the poll here to see how the voting is going on without casting a vote which can also influence things. If you were going to vote one way but then see the majority are voting another you either might just not bother or vote for the one that is likely to win anyway since you feel your vote may not count.

No I do not need your spaztard EXPLANATION I need FACTS

FACTS
FACTS

Not your fucked up logic, reasoning, explanations or made up shit that only goes on in that tiny brain of yours

I WANT FUCKING FACTS..

I have had enough of you and your band of alts making statements without FACTS.

 Come on Cryptopussy give me FACTS

Transparent voting is not a necessity as long as you care about the result of the poll more than the people taking part in it. A person should not be concerned about the people voting for either of the options provided in the poll unless they have started the poll only to check the mindset of some people about a specific topic/thing.
I doubt if a lot of people would even cast their vote (in some cases, in this forum) if they know that the poll starter or the public can see what they voted for.

LOL you sound insane all ranting and screaming... haha but I am so pleased you started ranting then.... hold on let me get the link and break it down to you again. Just that post adds weight to my case.... here read moron.

Read that again then have another dumb outburst

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095469.msg49176960#msg49176960

also please can you make another thread to examine your stupidity. I do not want to derail my valuable threads with your ranting and silly nonsense get back to red trusting people for presenting factual posts. You imbecile.

So sarcasm isn't a thing where you are from Mr Cryptocunt?

Give up moron.... your screaming, swearing, sexual deviance is not to be passed off as sarcasm ....

have another read

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095469.msg49176960#msg49176960

boom I love it.

I Love it when people do something then find some strange excuses for their actions..... like these extortionists i heard of once who may later say they were undercover to flush out the bad guys...

What about Liars?? perhaps they were all just  being sarcastic ?  tell lauda he can use that on his " i was on the launch of dash and there was no premine" ....haha I should have guessed that was just sarcasm along with his other months of defending it and promoting it.  Sarcasm. The get out of jail free card (in their own minds) for morons and scammers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095469.msg49176960#msg49176960

boom -- the power to just hit you with the observable events over and over and over again at will. POW. I imagine you sitting there all screaming and hating yourself for being so dumb and having to face it in black and white over and over... haha

Now stop derailing this important thread with your stupidity. Just create your own why  is tman such a fucking moron thread and I will come and post that link again.

Back on topic please or I will ask a mod to remove you. Your stupidity is not even 10.987% relevant r1s2g3 told me lol

What FACT are you using to make this baseless statement?

1. the fact you are off topic
2. the observable evidence corroborating the assumption you are thick as shit
3. the % is only a calculation r1s2g3 has access too LOL LOL if you want to dispute that I will agree that does not sound like a very plausible or even possible calculation to make. However does not invalidate  1 and 2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095469.msg49176960#msg49176960
boom

Now back to transparent polls please no more focusing on how stupid tman is

Wow, I've been away for 3 days and it seems like nothing changed, you two are still exchanging compliments with the same passion? So much dedication!!!

As the other said, transparent polls might make some not vote at all but they might show a better picture,

For example in all the polls in the wall observer thread, I always vote with the most ridiculous price target just for fun, although I really don't believe in it and I've done the same in a few polls in other areas where I found the options either funny or absurd. You might call it trolling but I'm sure a lot do the same.

If the polls would be public, probably I would stop voting altogether.
At least while I respond to a topic it's my post there alone when I vote in a poll I might see my name flanked by some "celebrities" and I'd rather not.

NO transparent Polls.

And as you bought it up again I require FACTS that back up your earlier statement about my intelligence

FACTS - not a link to a thread, actual FACTS.

you know like you demand off everyone else, or is it just one rule for you and not the "gang" ?

Let me totally break your fragile mind ..... so keep in mind what you just said above and get ready to look

even more stupid all over again........ you present facts as below ....LOL



Now I provide a link with observable corroborating events and I need more proof. Please fool go away and start your own tman is not a retard thread and drum up support if it upsets you so much.



Look it is very simple (probably not for you)

1. bring me just one instance of something I have said that is incorrect that has no sensible reasonable corroborating evidence/events.

that is it.

How difficult can it be for you ?? just one thing of all the things I have said I mean even a tman could do that surely.

I mean I bring corroborating observable events to demonstrate you are thick as shit and you bring nothing? why is that?

Probably because you are stupid. Do you start to see that now? If so, you can thank me for breaking you out of your state of unawareness.

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NOW BACK TO TRANSPARENT POLLS.

Tman (the imbecile) has said no he does not want transparent polls (which is to be expected)


I feel transparent polls would give them much more legitimacy in some cases.

I think people vote for things  or in ways they do not really think are true or correct but do so because they can get away with it.

Transparent polls should be the option for poll starter. The option to vote is as always in the hands of the voters.

all I saw is a Fact that backs up my statement that you are mental - dont see anything in there that can collaborate your statements about my intelligence

good try though my sexy little flower.

That is because you are mentally deficient. You see things that only exist in a broken/malformed or retarded mind.

You did not see the challenge I posed for you to bring one thing that I have said that you can clearly demonstrate is not true.

Have another go. On another thread.

Back to transparent polls.