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Title: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 18, 2019, 04:24:47 PM Buysolar and I have been mining together since 2014
He built a solar array back in 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369207.0 and we caught the big runup in fall of 2017 very well So we have been trying to find locations to build a new array. We now have a spot that will have 1000 300 watt panels that is a 300kwatt array when grid tied it is about 300/7 = 43Kwatts 24/7/365 first stage was putting in 200th worth of btc miners second stage was putting in 200 more th worth of btc miners along with 6 gh of ltc miners. I will post a youtube video soon. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 18, 2019, 04:25:08 PM Reserved
Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/vHRrOCPgqJs more info to come. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: mikeywith on January 18, 2019, 04:56:36 PM Video quality not so great but good enough, very nice set up there, Solar is a great idea, but batteries are the greatest liability of the system. how do you handle such a problem?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 18, 2019, 05:53:14 PM Video quality not so great but good enough, very nice set up there, Solar is a great idea, but batteries are the greatest liability of the system. how do you handle such a problem? This is grid tied we don't need no stinking batteries ;) 1000 x 300 watt panels = 300,000 kwatts or 300 kwatts. we mine with 40 kwatts of that 300 kwatts and sell 260 kwatts each hour of sunlight so 5 hours on average full sun is 19 hours you need to buy back so in a day we sell 5 x 260 = 1300 kwatts then buyback 19 x 40 = 760 kwatts the power company charges more for the buy back then the sell so the 1300 we sell earns about 800 to buyback we do a push or break even with the power company that acts as the battery system. the power company gets a gain of 1300-760 = 540 kwatts a day we end up with 40 x 24 = 960 kwatts at no cost each day You need a lot of space for 1000 x 300 watt panels this warehouse has them. It is about I will do more post and photos over time. This part of the buildout is where we create a power demand to justify the 300kwatt roof top system. we are pulling 47kwatts at power company price of 11 cents that is about 47 x 24 x 30 = 33,840 monthly kwatts at 11 cents = 3800 usd we need to do this for 4 months for about 16000 in power cost. This is part of the startup cost for the solar setup. say the 300kwatts = $600,000 then add 16,000 power and add 10,000 mining gear and 4,000 wiring structure = 630,000 to build the system then the federal and NJ incentives are based on that number most of the cost is for the panels the incentives make it viable. THIS DOES NOT WORK IN MANY STATES it does work in NJ Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 19, 2019, 11:01:21 PM this is great that means you took a cut on power cost and this will still have to be a profitable operation! Are you looking at replicating the models on other locations? Yes this will be the second one. If it works well we will be trying to add one or two each year. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: fullzero on January 20, 2019, 08:13:48 PM This part of the buildout is where we create a power demand to justify the 300kwatt roof top system. we are pulling 47kwatts at power company price of 11 cents that is about 47 x 24 x 30 = 33,840 monthly kwatts at 11 cents = 3800 usd we need to do this for 4 months for about 16000 in power cost. This is part of the startup cost for the solar setup. Are you required to justify the power demand annually, or only 1 time? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2019, 01:21:57 AM Are you required to justify the power demand annually, or only 1 time? to put it in one time to get approval for the 1000 panels system, but if we shut the mining down and just look to sell the power back to the power company we can do it after 1 year of mining. NJ law is good for solar. In fact we may get a new law that lets us sell to our neighbors at 8 cents vs 4 cents to power company. But that is another pair of sleeves. We ordered 2 more m10's and will be getting them by weds or thurs. the build out is stable enough.. 3 s9's dropped off the braiins software dropped out 1-20-12:45 could be a fuse issue a standard s9 dropped out 1-20-16:30 a standard s9 dropped out 1-18-21:55 37th off 3x l3+ dropped off all at the same time 1-20-12:45 could be a fuse issue 2100+800 = 2900 maybe they are on a 14amp fuse and 2900/240 = 12.2 amps which is close That would mean 2 troubled units. not 6 We are bring more pdu's when we go up should solve load issues. but the other 36 units are all good. 1x s7ln 1x t2turbo24 1x A921 2x A721 4x m10 16x s9 place was so fucking loud I could not hear myself think so I will bring head phones and ear plugs Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on January 21, 2019, 03:30:28 PM nice! this is what I want to do on my side lot! especially since the electric company is being a dick about installing a transformer.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2019, 04:37:05 PM nice! this is what I want to do on my side lot! especially since the electric company is being a dick about installing a transformer. Yeah so far so good. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on January 21, 2019, 04:43:18 PM how are you going about the financing? every bank I have approached backs out as soon as they hear crypto. I got one bank to be interested but only because I called it a data center instead and did not mention crypto at all.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2019, 05:19:59 PM how are you going about the financing? every bank I have approached backs out as soon as they hear crypto. I got one bank to be interested but only because I called it a data center instead and did not mention crypto at all. this is not an issue. Buysolar has his solar business I have gone joint with mining on his first array on his own property. The owner of this very large warehouse (200,000 sq ft) has the warehouse and his own business in it. The warehouse has excess space. The warehouse has 3 power panels 1) 480 3 phase 2) 208 and 3) 240 It has its own transformer rated to 250K-watts ;D It is basically next to perfect. The warehouse owner will finance the solar panel install buysolar will do the install he will turn a profit on the install of the 300kwatts in panels I will put in the mining gear around 10k the feds and the state give the warehouse owner large subsidies for the panels. the first outlay for the owner is 3 to 5 months of full cost power to show load is large. that is about 12k in power cost. we then put in the solar. No one goes deep into pockets. I would estimate out of pocket for warehouse owner is under 30k For mining part under 15k which Me and buysolar will put up. As I said this work in NJ,USA due to subsidies given by the state. Once it is fully done. We will not own the gear the warehouse guy will own it. We will manage it for a fee, Short term before solar kicks in we are splitting coins with the owner of the warehouse we put up the gear he put up the power. If this all works well we may end up doing as many as 5 or 6 warehouses in NJ. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: fullzero on January 21, 2019, 05:46:57 PM Good deal so long as you have no problems with warehouse guy.
S11's look like a better deal to me than M10's S15's or T15's. What do you think? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2019, 06:01:18 PM Good deal so long as you have no problems with warehouse guy. S11's look like a better deal to me than M10's S15's or T15's. What do you think? I have been debating this. In our case the s11 cost 512-65 = 447 + shipping + 27.6% tax so 512+125+80 = 707 a m10 is 880 the m10's we are are perfect 100% reliable zero issues. high speed is 31th low speed is 21th our coin deal until June 1 is 50-50 or I have a 15.5th power free miner for the next 150 days the s11 is 20th or 17th so I have a 10th power free miner for the next 150 days once solar is in he will buy out the miners so I spend zero in the long run for the miners. In my case I think the m10 is better I am guessing the extra 5th I get for 150 days is worth laying out the the extra 180 cash I know the m10 has 70 watts at high speed and 60 watts at low speed the s11 has 70 watts at high speed and 64 watts at low speed. 5 th is 76 cents a day at 150 days is 114 dollars more in mining . but the gear all gets sold to them in June. I still think if you buy 1 unit at a time the m10 is better then the s11 This is based that no trump tax on the m10 and trump tax is on the s11. If you don't pay trump tax the s11 is 125 less and may be the better deal. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on January 21, 2019, 06:52:29 PM philip let me know if you need help getting gear in under de minimus value. You shouldn't paying duties on gear like the m10 31T or s11 at current pricing.
Sounds like a great project and this making me wondering what subsidies Oregon has for solar being a very environmentally conscious state. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2019, 07:49:49 PM philip let me know if you need help getting gear in under de minimus value. You shouldn't paying duties on gear like the m10 31T or s11 at current pricing. Sounds like a great project and this making me wondering what subsidies Oregon has for solar being a very environmentally conscious state. Maybe we will need 4 to 6 more m10's as project progress moves on. Next step is add 2 more m10's and tweak it a bit. we will then run 480th btc and 7gh ltc nonstop till june. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 26, 2019, 04:47:12 AM What kind of tax is "27.6% tax"? That's a lot... Donald trump is having a tariff war against china. 25% + 2.6 % = 27.6% Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: ZimbaCardi on January 26, 2019, 07:26:17 PM This is based that no trump tax on the m10 and trump tax is on the s11. So the m10 is exempt from this tax? Does it not come from China? Or what am I missing? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2019, 02:08:56 AM So the m10 is exempt from this tax? Does it not come from China? Or what am I missing? it is not exempt if you buy 1 you are under 800 (799) and may or may not be taxed. if you buy 2 you are over 1000 (1598) and will be taxed. if you buy 3 you are over 1000 (2397) and will be taxed. While one of the S15 is 1020 which will be taxed. I have ordered my m10's 1 at a time as has buysolar we purchased 4 since the trump tax started each one was under 800 which may or may not be taxed. New photos https://i.imgur.com/VCK46oc.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/VCK46oc.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/jFcjKMH.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/jFcjKMH.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on January 27, 2019, 02:11:08 AM So over 1000 is certain tax?
What is the white blanket A welding blanket for fire? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2019, 02:15:03 AM So over 1000 is certain tax? What is the white blanket A welding blanket for fire? Yes over 1000 from china to usa = certain tax. under 800 from china to usa = maybe tax. White fire blanket will also prevent shorts and grounding. Made of fiberglass. More photos https://i.imgur.com/kKMfFst.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/kKMfFst.jpg) 18 x 30 amp circuits https://i.imgur.com/64rK5bu.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/64rK5bu.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on January 27, 2019, 02:19:21 AM So that is all sound proofing and a firedoor right?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2019, 02:23:35 AM @ yankees yes silver stuff comes from home depot lower sounds, but the room is 86 db ;D
more photos top shelf to bottom 2 a721 avalon 5 s9 2 l3+ 3 s7ln 9 l3+ https://i.imgur.com/04D1Pkw.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/04D1Pkw.jpg) panels https://i.imgur.com/SBkUtPH.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/SBkUtPH.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on January 27, 2019, 02:29:24 AM So what is th for BTC?
and what is LTC? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2019, 02:34:43 AM 480-500th for btc
6.8-7.1gh for ltc more photos looked entrance door note this room has no roof and is the power room inside a huge warehouse https://i.imgur.com/WstPgYC.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/WstPgYC.jpg) top to bottom 4 s9 4 s9 1 l3+ 1 inno t2turbo24, 1 s7ln ,6 m10s 4 s9s , 1 l3+ bottom shelf is missing from view 2 s9, 1 a921, 1l3+ https://i.imgur.com/DVFpDdE.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/DVFpDdE.jpg) outside of power.mining room which is in corner of huge warehouse. https://i.imgur.com/UvtViok.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/UvtViok.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on January 27, 2019, 02:39:54 AM How big is the ware house?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2019, 02:40:34 AM How big is the ware house? 200,000 sq ft. we will add more fans wait and see how stable this is. we are near what we need. I am getting one s15 from a forum member. It looks like 1 s9 does not work well It looks like 1 s7ln does not work well All 14 l3+ seem to work well All 6 m10s seem to work well 18 of 19 s9s seem to work well The 1 Avalon a921 works well The 2 Avalon a721 work well The 1 inno t2turbo works well 3 of 4 s7ln work well. When I go up with the s15 I will bring the s7ln that did not work. I am pretty sure the atx jumper is no good. It was made be bitmain back around 2014 I think it is defective. The dud s9 I don’t know why it does not work. And it is up at Clifton it will sit there for the next ten days Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: HagssFIN on January 27, 2019, 08:53:56 AM Lookin' good Phil!
Soon you'll have a S15 to boost the hash rate even more. :) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2019, 10:56:47 AM How many petahashes per second? :o not there yet. For btc 480-500 th which is say 0.48- 0.50 ph for ltc 6.8 - 7.0 gh which is 14 L3+ 53 pieces of gear all told eventually we replace the 4 s7ln with 1 m10 so 10 th turns into 31 th then the 2 a721 with 1 m10 so 11th turns in 31th then the 19 s9s with 10 m10s so 210th becomes 310th even with all that it is only a gain of 140 th which means close to 630 th or 0.63 ph Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: ZimbaCardi on January 27, 2019, 10:41:48 PM Great farm Phil.
I don't understand the air flow, care to elaborate on it? Oh and what plugs are you using for the PDUs? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2019, 01:18:26 AM Great farm Phil. I don't understand the air flow, care to elaborate on it? Oh and what plugs are you using for the PDUs? L6-30p air flow is a work in progress. the warehouse is massive and not heated. Trucks open and close the large garage door the ceiling is at least 30 feet tall. at the moment we are using two high speed fans to draw in cold air and letting hot air simply rise. https://i.imgur.com/nYHwLFa.png (https://i.imgur.com/nYHwLFa.png) you can see one of the two fans on left side of room https://i.imgur.com/UvtViok.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/UvtViok.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: ZimbaCardi on January 28, 2019, 01:58:21 AM Sure beats a lot of fancy systems, hot/cold air alleys, etc. and the warehouse get free heating.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2019, 03:03:30 AM Sure beats a lot of fancy systems, hot/cold air alleys, etc. and the warehouse get free heating. Yeah we will need to tweak it , but we are doing 50kwatts which is about 200000 btu 24/7/365. When it warms we will add an outdoor vent to take air out. This place is about the size of a walmart so it can use lots of heat. As we slowly upgrade to solar we will upgrade to all m10's or s15's the solar will give 40kwatt 24/7/365 on average for free power. Since the roof will have more then 300kwatts of panels. I am excited this could be the first of 4-6 similar projects. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on January 28, 2019, 06:54:21 PM Looks great, I actually love use of more natural cooling. Cross drafts, with overhangs in a shotgun form or simply a "copula" outlets in a larger facility.
Great project philip. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2019, 11:25:07 PM Looks great, I actually love use of more natural cooling. Cross drafts, with overhangs in a shotgun form or simply a "copula" outlets in a larger facility. Great project philip. Warehouse owner is liking what he sees at the moment. He wants to talk about a second warehouse next week. This warehouse was so perfect for what we did I hope the next warehouse is close to the same quality and setup. If it is we will be over 1ph by the summer. with ½ solar by end of year entire 1ph would be solar. Fingers are crossed this continues this well. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on January 29, 2019, 08:16:53 PM very nice phil! I am jealous - I need to get one of these put on my second lot lol
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2019, 12:41:47 AM very nice phil! I am jealous - I need to get one of these put on my second lot lol I can not wait till we get the solar up in late spring. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on January 30, 2019, 05:17:06 AM I wish my solar was more effective - 36 panels and only 40 to 45 kwh per day generated - it was supposed to be generating 60 to 70 per their damn sales pitch.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2019, 02:03:26 PM I wish my solar was more effective - 36 panels and only 40 to 45 kwh per day generated - it was supposed to be generating 60 to 70 per their damn sales pitch. It is always hard to tell if they (installers) are any good. So many reasons it could be that low. but they mostly boil down to they lied or they installed it wrong. Also it is the winter you will be much lower numbers now then May,June,July If you are in northern hemisphere. In NJ we do 9 hours of light in winter and 15 hours of light in summer average of 12 is not what you use. as those 12 hours come to 5-6 hours of full sunshine So we base NJ numbers at 5 hours a day They could be using the high number for estimate 6 hours a day. They could have mismatch inverter They could have a bad wire job. this build will be 1000 300 watt panels = 300,000watt or 300kwatt setup but that is a peak number. We divide the 300 by 7 to get 42 kwatt we round to 40kwatt this is very conservative. The yearly average should be 40kwatt 24/7/365 A lot of installer would bs and say the system will generate 50kwatt 24/7/365 which is really possible but in practice it will be 39-45 24/7/365 we prefer to go low on estimates since customers are happy to do a little more than promised. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on January 30, 2019, 03:16:21 PM yes - the average is lower now - more like 30 to 35 kwh and wait, your 1000 panels is only 42 kw per day? or do you mean per hour?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2019, 04:24:48 PM yes - the average is lower now - more like 30 to 35 kwh and wait, your 1000 panels is only 42 kw per day? or do you mean per hour? per hour 24/7 on average. or 24 x 42 = 1000 kwatts a day Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on January 31, 2019, 01:17:38 AM per hour 24/7 on average. or 24 x 42 = 1000 kwatts a day ok yea that is much better. I am possibly selling 5 of my s9's and if that sale goes thru, I will be buying an S15 and an s11 or maybe 3 s11's not decided yet. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2019, 05:07:54 AM Got back from the build out.
Need to figure out how to download photos from my phone. We added an s15 installed awesome miner we are up to 535th btc 6.6gh ltc had to downclock gear. we will need to add an external fan as the 95000 square foot warehouse did get too warm when NJ weather reached 67f on tues. actual solar install will be months from now. Buysolar will apply to power company to see what they want to allow the 300k-watt install We are pulling about 60kwatts which is higher then the install will do when complete say 300/7 = 42 kwatts an hour 24/7/365 but the 60kwatts raises average quicker. We will be looking for another m10 on thurs the 7th and more m10's down the road. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 07, 2019, 01:51:03 PM i hate to say it but i am jealous lol keep up the good work. I am almost at giving up on my farm :( at least at my location. I may need to find somewhere else to do it.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2019, 03:59:03 PM Here is the s15 with the protection transformer
https://i.imgur.com/AVdaTZk.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/AVdaTZk.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on February 07, 2019, 04:01:10 PM Phil NJ got warm on Monday and on Tues 62f then 67f
Did warehouse hold under 80f or did it get too warm? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2019, 04:10:24 PM @ yankees owner of warehouse said it got warm and now realizes that we will need at least 1 fan with a good vent to the outdoors.
we are looking to see if we can install a 2 speed 10000cfm fan above the exit door in the picture below https://i.imgur.com/56y3dSq.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/56y3dSq.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on February 07, 2019, 05:40:01 PM Looks great philip. I think you said you can only run one s15 with transformer in the other thread ? Did you have an exhaust fan in mind already?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Artemis3 on February 07, 2019, 06:50:48 PM Here is the s15 with the protection transformer https://i.imgur.com/AVdaTZk.jpg What does the upper value mean, input voltage? If its 228v it should be safe for the S15 no? China uses 230v @50hz, like Europe. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2019, 07:47:34 PM What does the upper value mean, input voltage? If its 228v it should be safe for the S15 no? China uses 230v @50hz, like Europe. at that shot we were at 228 but it fluxes as high as 243 as low as 220. that transformer attempts to flatten output to 220. My testing shows it does that pretty much spot on. It is rated to do 22.7 amps 24/7/365 that is 22.7 x 220 = 4994 hence the 5000va rating but the input power cord is 14 gauge no way a 14 gauge cable is going to handle 22.7 amps 24/7/365 I would trust it at 10-12 amps: so 10 x 220 = 2200 watts and 12 x 220 = 2640 watts we are doing about 1580 watts with it as I type. the warehouse owner has a model in mind he is going to do that. Next posts will show new fan and cleaned up wiring. I will be doing some awesomeminer work with this setup. For the next week or two. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 08, 2019, 02:42:37 AM Yea, I have my fan, I just need to install it. but kinda have not gotten to it because the cool weather. but it hit 80 today so I may need to do it soon.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: ZimbaCardi on February 08, 2019, 07:22:59 PM Here is the s15 with the protection transformer... You have the transformer on just a single S15 miner Phil? And is this "Protection Transformer" the same as a "Voltage Stabilizer"? I have 2 B1+ that keep going off and Tech support said to buy a voltage stabilizer, I do get 214-229 volts. Also I think it will be too much of an investment if I can even find one to handle the 5000 watts from both miners. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on February 08, 2019, 07:55:46 PM And is this "Protection Transformer" the same as a "Voltage Stabilizer"? No they are not the same. Strictly speaking a 'protection transformer' simply provides line isolation and a Farady shield between the primary and secondary windings to reduce the impact of noise and spikes as well as probably some other suppression components as well. A stabilizer aka regulator actively adjusts the output voltage to keep it within a specific output range. Many/most will have suppression bits as well but like the one Phil has, the line-in and line-out are NOT isolated from each other. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM You have the transformer on just a single S15 miner Phil? And is this "Protection Transformer" the same as a "Voltage Stabilizer"? I have 2 B1+ that keep going off and Tech support said to buy a voltage stabilizer, I do get 214-229 volts. Also I think it will be too much of an investment if I can even find one to handle the 5000 watts from both miners. stable clean power is a luxury in many parts of the world. Are you USA located? larsonelectronics has a lot of good gear. https://www.larsonelectronics.com/ https://catalog.larsonelectronics.com/search?lbc=larsonelectronics&method=and&p=Q&ts=custom&uid=640749480&w=transformers&af=cat2%3aindustrialtransformers_75kvaandbelowindustrialtransformers%20cat1%3aindustrialtransformers Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: ZimbaCardi on February 08, 2019, 11:47:24 PM Mexico, and I meant as low as 204.
Thanks for the links. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 09, 2019, 02:08:06 AM Mexico, and I meant as low as 204. Thanks for the links. they have a 208 to 220 boost which would boost 204 to 216 Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on February 09, 2019, 01:31:13 PM That build out looks nice. Super cool that the warehouse owner has another location for a continued expansion.
I only noticed the 1 fan in the picture showing the red door to the warehouse. Had you considered using floor level intakes to bring the air into the space. It would help create a nice steady in from the bottom out from the top air circulation. I'm not sure what the quality of floor level air is there, but I imagine it wouldn't be much worse than what's floating by the fan. You would also be grabbing what would likely be the coolest air in the warehouse, bonus if it's a nice solid concrete slab. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 09, 2019, 01:57:14 PM That build out looks nice. Super cool that the warehouse owner has another location for a continued expansion. I only noticed the 1 fan in the picture showing the red door to the warehouse. Had you considered using floor level intakes to bring the air into the space. It would help create a nice steady in from the bottom out from the top air circulation. I'm not sure what the quality of floor level air is there, but I imagine it wouldn't be much worse than what's floating by the fan. You would also be grabbing what would likely be the coolest air in the warehouse, bonus if it's a nice solid concrete slab. yeah But the owner does not want to cut that wall. he is willing to put a fan to vent outside which will solve the issue for the summer. today is cold 25f so no issue. And since build has both: btc 530 th ltc 6.6 gh the price jump yesterday for both coins was very nice. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Artemis3 on February 09, 2019, 06:38:29 PM Mexico, and I meant as low as 204. Thanks for the links. Its a regulador de voltaje, that's what we call them here... Something like this: https://http2.mlstatic.com/regulador-sola-basic-xellence-30003kvabifasico220v2-anos-D_NQ_NP_863333-MLM26927357214_022018-O.jpg https://http2.mlstatic.com/regulador-sola-basic-xellence-30003kvabifasico220v2-anos-D_NQ_NP_852501-MLM26927358290_022018-O.jpg Regulador Sola Basic Xellence 3000,3kva,bifasico,220v,2 Años $ 6,990 (https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-646598470-regulador-sola-basic-xellence-30003kvabifasico220v2-anos-_JM) I think they call them voltage stabilizer in Europe. Yes, input can be a varying range (169V ~ 271V), and the output is a fixed (220v). They usually do come with peak protection and timer delay if power goes out of range. The smaller 120v cousins are very common for PC use here (and in many parts they are a must have if you don't want to be replacing PSUs every 3 months). Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 09, 2019, 07:19:59 PM Just added more sound proofing on the floor Some rubber mats over the same sound deadening material that is on the walls.
https://i.imgur.com/KpgivIy.png Drops sound down quite a bit. https://i.imgur.com/JcDb4VF.png (https://i.imgur.com/JcDb4VF.png) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 10, 2019, 01:42:21 AM this month I will be adding some sound deadening as well - can hear my miners from the road lol - but it should also help with insulation against the summer heat.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: alh on February 10, 2019, 10:35:13 PM Would an air vent in the door be acceptable to the owner? It would seem less invasive and easy to replace in the future if needed.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 11, 2019, 12:09:51 AM Would an air vent in the door be acceptable to the owner? It would seem less invasive and easy to replace in the future if needed. I may get a vent to outside air source for intake. I am pretty sure we won’t need it. The room is 8 by 10 by 20. No ceiling. The warehouse is 200 by 450 by 30. I am pretty sure that once the out take fan above the fire exit door is installed it will move a lot of air right out the building. The roof also has three large high hats to pull air out. The limit to this build is not heat The limit to this build is not power available. The limit is the roof size allows us to build 300 x 1000 panels = 300 kwatts or about 40kwatts 24/7/365 For “free “ power. I quote free as it is reduced cost power due to USA and NJ rebates tax credits etc. I will drive up this week and pull some s-7s put in some L3+ Hope to be at 520th btc. 8gh ltc by thurs. I wish I could still get those cheaper m10s At least I got 4 of them. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on February 11, 2019, 02:12:36 AM Understandable that he didn't want to put any holes in the wall. I hadn't realized it was probably built as an existing electrical room originally.
Yeah I'm still stuck in winter mode and heat conservation - hard mindset to break with a steady low of -30C lately. I was wondering what does the overall build have for air intake besides the warehouse doors opening and closing? Probably wouldn't take much to maintain ambient if you have enough exhausts, likely even get away with no fans and natural circulation if you do use the high hats for removal. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 11, 2019, 02:38:09 AM It is 1c and the room is okay.
At 60f and or 18c It gets warm. NJ weather means we have 2 months before we go above 60f a lot. We will have an external fan sooner then that. A two speed 5000cfm to 10000cfm with a thermastat. 36 inch . Since we have about 50 units with 200 cfm fans. I am pretty sure the two speed fan will do the job. Keeping space cool won’t be an issue. That mining room has : 208volt feed 240volt feed 480volt feed We could pull 500kwatts from the feeds. But power cost is 13 cents. The first 40kwatts is solar and next to free. After that 13 cents. Once setup we will have extra gear just in case of a run up in coin price And tap into the high cost power. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 11, 2019, 05:35:27 AM ... But power cost is 13 cents. The first 40kwatts is solar and next to free. After that 13 cents. Once setup we will have extra gear just in case of a run up in coin price And tap into the high cost power. ouch, I now love my 5 cent power more after hearing that 13 cent number. lol Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Artemis3 on February 15, 2019, 04:29:06 PM Just added more sound proofing on the floor Some rubber mats over the same sound deadening material that is on the walls. https://i.imgur.com/KpgivIy.png Drops sound down quite a bit. https://i.imgur.com/JcDb4VF.png Can you tell us the name of the material? Is it a thermal/sound insulation material? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2019, 05:11:26 PM Can you tell us the name of the material? Is it a thermal/sound insulation material? home depot sells it https://www.homedepot.com/p/UltraTouch-48-in-x-6-ft-Radiant-Barrier-with-Recycled-Cotton-30000-11406/100656748 I like using it with this fire/short blanket. https://www.amazon.com/Tonyko%C2%AE-Fiberglass-Fire-Blanket-39-inch/dp/B01N1F737R/ref=sr_1_2_sspa? here are some videos using it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mqxy28jPvw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8MwWwctWVw if you look you can see both the silver/sound proofing and the fire blankets Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: OgNasty on February 15, 2019, 06:08:51 PM After that 13 cents. I am always curious when people quote rates. Is this the bottom line electricity bill number divided by the # of kWh you used, or is this the rate you pay on your electricity plan? I ask because the 2 numbers can be drastically different. For example, right now I'm on a plan that has high service charges, but low electrical rates. I'm paying around $0.05/kWh on electrical usage, but the bottom line on my bill is closer to $0.10/kWh after fees, and lowers with the more electricity I use. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2019, 06:36:43 PM I am always curious when people quote rates. Is this the bottom line electricity bill number divided by the # of kWh you used, or is this the rate you pay on your electricity plan? I ask because the 2 numbers can be drastically different. For example, right now I'm on a plan that has high service charges, but low electrical rates. I'm paying around $0.05/kWh on electrical usage, but the bottom line on my bill is closer to $0.10/kWh after fees, and lowers with the more electricity I use. that is full cost in my state winter rate is 9.1 for power 3.9 for delivery 13.0 total summer is 12.8 for power 3.9 for delivery 16.7 total if I adjust for heat benefits in winter and lower the 13 cents I mention it if I adjust for more cooling costs in summer and raise the 16.7 I mention it. we have 3 shared locations for the solar Clifton NJ Howell NJ buysolar's office and home I have my garage. for me mostly testing and setting gear up my garage setup is 13 cents in winter and can drop heating bill so real cost is 13-2 say 11 cents my garage setup is 16.7 cents in summer and can raise cooling bill so real cost is 16.7 + 1.3 = 18 cents most of the time I don't put in the heating benefits or cooling negatives I go with 13.0 winter and 16.7 summer. This winter I have not mined much in house/garage as it is all power company and most everything mines at a loss at 13 cent power. Many winters the garage/house was pulling 7kwatts 24/7/365 this winter 2kwatts more or less mostly from prepping gear to go to the bigger Clifton NJ build. Buysolar also mines less at his home + office setup as once he goes over 14kwatts he begins the 13 cent cost. IN Clifton we are building the foundation (power footprint) so to speak for the solar 300watt x 1000 panel install the ware house has a 2 acre roof and 1000 panel max fits. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: OgNasty on February 15, 2019, 10:03:31 PM the ware house has a 2 acre roof and 1000 panel max fits. I hope you show off a drone video of this when it's all done. I know a guy. ;) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 16, 2019, 04:11:22 AM I hope you show off a drone video of this when it's all done. I know a guy. ;) The son of the warehouse owner will be taking some drone shots. Should look nice. Our real hope is to do a lot of these warehouse builds. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Artemis3 on February 16, 2019, 06:12:11 PM home depot sells it https://www.homedepot.com/p/UltraTouch-48-in-x-6-ft-Radiant-Barrier-with-Recycled-Cotton-30000-11406/100656748 I like using it with this fire/short blanket. https://www.amazon.com/Tonyko%C2%AE-Fiberglass-Fire-Blanket-39-inch/dp/B01N1F737R/ The fire blanket is made of fiberglass. I saw in an unrelated youtube video about sound insulating walls that fiberglass is a good (and cheap) sound insulator. For walls they have rolls of a much thicker variant of it. I saw the silvery thing being used as heat insulation under a roof in a hot tropical climate, it reduced a whole 10°C from 48°C at the underside of the roof (too bad that roof didn't have solar panels), a warehouse they were finishing building they sandwiched two layers of that silvery insulation fabric with polystyrene panels under the roof (polystyrene/silvery fabric/polystyrene/silvery fabric); wonderful thing for thermal, not sure about its sound insulation properties, but i know for a fact that polystyrene itself doesn't work for sound insulation. The son of the warehouse owner will be taking some drone shots. Should look nice. Our real hope is to do a lot of these warehouse builds. Ever considered doing it abroad? Here in the Caribbean there is so much wasted sun... Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 16, 2019, 08:33:11 PM A Caribbean build would be nice. But we need to get our feet a bit more wet here at the Jersey shore. ;D
We don't know the laws and or rules in the Caribbean when it comes to installs. Would be nice to have a few setup. We were up at the buildout yesterday I did a video. I also turned off 2 s7Ln and added 2 L3+ Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/Pjaj8OKfJkw we now have 29 sha 256 on BTC about 525th and 16 scrypt on LTC about 7.6gh Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: arielbit on February 17, 2019, 04:51:06 PM very nice :D
more power to you and your mining gears. renewable energy and crypto go hand in hand. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: crazydane on February 17, 2019, 07:33:21 PM Very cool project Phil!
Makes my 128 panel 35kWh setup look like a toy setup, lol. I have had a few days here in February where I have generated 150 kWh in a day though, so I'm not complaining. I couldn't help but note that you stated you pay the power company $0.13 per kWh but they only credit you back $0.04 for each kWh you put back into the grid. Did I read that right? Reason I ask is that here in Virginia, I have net metering and I pay $0.12 per kWh 24/7 year round, and when I produce more than I use, the power company credits me at the exact same rate ($0.12 per kWh). Now I can't "cash out" it is just a bank of kWh that accumulates on my account, but since I consume more than I put back in the grid, generally speaking, that is not a concern. So you have no option to just build up a bank of kWh with the power company during the day that you can then burn through at night? I guess you would need enough mining equipment to make the 2 equal out. Just seems unfair that they don't credit you at the same rate they charge you. At least the $0.08 kWh deal to your neighbors make it a little but better. But overall, you seem to have it all planned out and your business model is sound, it could just have been even better I think, if the power company credited you the kWh at 1:1. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 17, 2019, 07:56:05 PM Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out.
All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this. you can see the air pollution path below https://i.imgur.com/M7NbsmU.png (https://i.imgur.com/M7NbsmU.png) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on February 17, 2019, 08:11:55 PM So proof of concept was the setup at buysolar place of business?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 17, 2019, 08:14:56 PM Yes and we got lucky with the 2017 runup. We paid it off faster then we hoped and have been trying to sell the next buildout since April-May 2018
we finally hooked up with ware house in Clifton. so a 200 watts x 500 panel = 100kwatt first build in Howell now a 300 watts x 1000 panel= 300kwatt second build in Clifton once we show this build to work we hope for more to come. Buysolar is NJ based and this is his idea with some development from me but he truly came up with this first. If you read his posts for 2015 he talks about it here and there on the forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948724.msg10492740#msg10492740 this right when we started working together https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948724.msg10508570#msg10508570 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256563.msg13054076#msg13054076 Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: crazydane on February 17, 2019, 08:30:34 PM Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out. All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this... Yikes, yeah that looks pretty bad! Ok, so the credits are for the kWh's you produce, not just the up front cost of the panel themselves? That would definitely make it more even. Are you doing anything with SREC trading? Looks like NJ has a good market for those as well. I got an account with these guys: https://www.srectrade.com/ Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 17, 2019, 08:34:32 PM Yikes, yeah that looks pretty bad! Ok, so the credits are for the kWh's you produce, not just the up front cost of the panel themselves? That would definitely make it more even. Are you doing anything with SREC trading? Looks like NJ has a good market for those as well. I got an account with these guys: https://www.srectrade.com/ that is on sky's end as he was into solar installs for more then 5 years before BTC was around. I live less then 5 miles from him and handle btc+ ltc gear and mining setup. I promo for this as it works hand and hand Solar + Crypto = winner in NJ my job is talkng and blogging it and getting good gear at good prices. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 18, 2019, 08:44:10 PM that is on sky's end as he was into solar installs for more then 5 years before BTC was around. I live less then 5 miles from him and handle btc+ ltc gear and mining setup. I promo for this as it works hand and hand Solar + Crypto = winner in NJ my job is talkng and blogging it and getting good gear at good prices. bring those skills to FL - you can start on my spare lot :D Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 18, 2019, 10:45:39 PM bring those skills to FL - you can start on my spare lot :D Would be nice to be in some warm weather. NJ stays too cold too long. I got our 7th m10 took a bit to fire up but seems to be working now. the build will move from 525th to 556th very soon. I now have to think a bit as to what to do with the older gear. 19 s9's 4 sl7's 2 a721' 1 a921 they do about 280th at about 28000 watts the 7 m10's 1 s15 1 innosilicon do about 270 th at 18400 watts so if I load up on m10s 13 x 2200 = 28600 with an up grade to 416 the plan was to add an m10 a week at a time getting us to be at about 685th. but I have heard the trump tax may end in march I have also heard the s17 may get launched by years end. so I now need to think about m10 vs s15 vs s17 vs t17 much more complex set of decisions to guess. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 19, 2019, 02:03:03 AM yep - its hard to justify new gear atm with that tariff - at least for me it is. I would need to sell some existing machines first. I did like to see the little rise we got in todays btc price. makes my holdings just a bit more valuable :)
edit i think bitmain heard me... they just gave me 14 new coupons worth over 250 and 7 for 160 --- the 65's I have had for a bit https://i.ibb.co/5TxyKzG/Capture.jpg (https://ibb.co/NxnPTkt) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Biffa on February 19, 2019, 01:57:33 PM Yup, looks like they are going to try and clear out all the inventory ready for the new stuff later in the year. Sell out completely as quickly as they can and then generate market anticipation conditions for the new releases.
Strangely you can't apply any of those coupons to your cart, only the $65 ones. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 19, 2019, 02:15:10 PM Yup, looks like they are going to try and clear out all the inventory ready for the new stuff later in the year. Sell out completely as quickly as they can and then generate market anticipation conditions for the new releases. Strangely you can't apply any of those coupons to your cart, only the $65 ones. well that is because the new ones are not active until 2.26.19 so another week or so. and yes they have a second generation 7nm chip which they claim is close to 30j/th -- i believe the most efficient ones you can current get are around the 50j/th mark, if I am not mistaken. My guess is those 2nd gens will be expensive with long drawn out ROI's. So it may be time to scoop up the 1st gen 7nm machines now. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on February 19, 2019, 02:33:07 PM Yea, not active yet. From my personal account I can use $65 and $300, $395 coupons but not the others due to date.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 19, 2019, 02:44:15 PM I guess they read this ;D
I was up really late last night opened my emails just now and saw the notices. So some s15's or t15's will be purchased very soon. I don't have a t15. so 710 -340 = 370 + 110 = 480 a no tax order since the base 710 is under the 799 480 for the t15 is really good price. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 19, 2019, 05:28:51 PM yea - I have way more coupons that I can possibly use. want to buy some coupons? lol I am willing to sell at 25% face value.
I also want to sell some of my s9's and go for the t15's. If by some miracle, I could get $300 for the miners w/psu I could buy 4 t15's for every 5 s9's I sell with no out of pocket on the purchase. that would put me at 92 th for 4 t15's vs the 70 th i am getting for 5 s9's and would save me about 350 watts per hour. A little less th (84 i think) if used in LPM mode but with almost 500 watts per hour less electric consumption. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on February 19, 2019, 06:26:15 PM Not sure what the efficiency setting looks like on the m10 but the t15 in LPM delivers over m10 in stock.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 19, 2019, 06:42:48 PM Not sure what the efficiency setting looks like on the m10 but the t15 in LPM delivers over m10 in stock. yep now i just wish I could find someone to buy my s9's for $300 each lol Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on February 19, 2019, 08:00:01 PM yep now i just wish I could find someone to buy my s9's for $300 each lol Might need to wait for BTC to pump a little higher. I think average for used s9's is about $150/unit now. Maybe I'm mistaken though. Upstream might take them but I don't know of any projects their working on right now. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 19, 2019, 10:37:14 PM Pricing is always complex.
A lot depends on your power cap and on power efficiency. Until today the m10 was the best unit in the USA Now a t15 with a 340 coupon is a better deal . but the 340 coupons are wait til the 26th by the 26th maybe the m10 drops to 500 Also if the s15 at 1020-340 = 680 + 100 to ship is invoiced at 680 + 100 = 780 no tax if it is invoiced at 1020-340 = 680 + 100 shipping = 780 plus tax of 27.6% on the 1020 price that is a tax of 281 so 780 + 281 = 1061 so as of today for a USA guy the s15 is 1061 or 780 if you order one the t15 is 470 if you order one and it is not exactly correct since you can not order until feb 26th. also the order 1 per day to save the tax while true can end up being wrong if they jam up in customs and you feb 26 feb 27 feb 28 ordered hit the usa on march 1 usa can say you ordered 3 in 1 day we tax your ass. So when I do order: I will order 1 sent to my home buysolar will order 1 sent to his home we will then order again when they arrive at our homes I will order 1 T15 buysolar will order 1 S15 if that s15 is written correctly to legally avoid the trump tax we can order 1 S15 each for the next order. a PITA but we would legally avoid about 800-1000 in tax this way Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on February 20, 2019, 02:04:29 AM I would throttle about 1 every third business day (Sunday-Friday in the US to match UTC +8) but only if units are readily available no pre-ordering. Might have my timezone off but hopefully people can figure that out. Essentially this process is the main portion of our work since last Aug/Sept at least more units are under de minimis now. Still be careful about expecting leniency with coupons for discounts.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 20, 2019, 02:05:45 AM oh i know $300 is a stretch but I can dream :) either way cannot use the coupons until the 26th so who knows what will happen to btc and/or the market by then.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 20, 2019, 03:18:03 AM oh i know $300 is a stretch but I can dream :) either way cannot use the coupons until the 26th so who knows what will happen to btc and/or the market by then. my feeling is the market pumping to 4445 is meh. they would be stupid to cancel the coupons. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on February 20, 2019, 03:29:56 AM Hope you don't mind me bringing this over here.
What really hurts me is now I have to think for four people with 575 of my 617 th. Vs two people with 120 th forces me to be very conservative With the big chunk 575 th. I'd say you've deployed a pretty good strategy overall. Good mix of gear, couple different coin streams, and I believe you use a few pools to balance variance. I'm going to assume all parties involved have been happy with your deployment to date or you wouldn't be growing so fast in this market. Do you have any one off gambles going anymore? If I remember you used to throw at Johnny's, and another that had the block finder rewards from time to time. Just a heads up with those coupons are you sure you can go higher than 300$ for the T15, checking the "coupons" tab on the Bitmain product page for the T15 it says 300$ or less. I'm pretty torn on what to grab myself at least I have a few days to ponder it over, and here I thought I was done buying gear for a while. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on February 20, 2019, 03:57:49 AM Looks like the t15 will not use my 340.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on February 20, 2019, 01:47:46 PM in the past coupons have always worked as long as their value was 50% or less than the cost of the miner, right? so a $340 coupon should work on any miner over $680 in my opinion, but the site does say that but is it also possible that it has not been updated to allow for the $340 coupons as they are not active until the 26th?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on February 20, 2019, 05:56:55 PM Correct the 26th a handful of coupons go live. I believe the $340 is part of those.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 04, 2019, 10:05:40 PM Going up to ware house on tues.
we will be adding a m10 this should get us to 540th with 1 t15 on the way. we may order some more t15's plus this fan, a beast, 14900 cfm. is to be installed for warm weather. damn that is some suction baby. https://www.gamut.com/p/direct-drive-exhaust-fan-heavy-duty-1-speeds-shutter-230v-ac-ODI0Mjg1 https://d1rnt4jswe7umx.cloudfront.net/images/products/thumb/5c5e882b5ec0b308793f4e521468ae6c.jpg (https://d1rnt4jswe7umx.cloudfront.net/images/products/thumb/5c5e882b5ec0b308793f4e521468ae6c.jpg) scale for the fan above here it is with me and the still sealed box. box is like 5 ft by 5 ft by 1.5 ft I can not wait to make a video of it installed https://i.imgur.com/KJW5jqx.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/KJW5jqx.jpg) the 1 board m10 is second in the row with other m10's https://i.imgur.com/6VCJRci.jpg 535th https://i.imgur.com/96Znzox.png input is 229 volts we are pulling 65 kwatts https://i.imgur.com/Xh9ofQH.jpg philipma1957 (me) and buysolar (my partner) are looking into 10-20 s15's to be added to this. I sent this to kaboomracks store. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Artemis3 on March 07, 2019, 01:13:44 AM I sent this to kaboomracks store. Since you mentioned kaboomracks, can you tell me how to do business with them? Where exactly IS the Kaboomracks store? All i could find was a Linkedin profile, and the Telegram group. Are you supposed to PM the Kaboomracks Store user on Telegram or Linkedin? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: peonminer on March 07, 2019, 06:16:53 AM Since you mentioned kaboomracks, can you tell me how to do business with them? Where exactly IS the Kaboomracks store? All i could find was a Linkedin profile, and the Telegram group. Are you supposed to PM the Kaboomracks Store user on Telegram or Linkedin? Agreed. I see kaboomracks selling a lot of hardware potentially, but the only thing you find is a linked in profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertvankirk/ and their telegram channel http://www.t.me/kaboomracks The only user with a review on their profile Norm MacDonald has four scam accusation trusts on their profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2403358 can anyone clear the air on kaboomracks? I am interested in their listing of antminer s9 rigs but I want to know they are legit first. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 07, 2019, 01:01:36 PM to clarify
norm sent 4 negs out to 4 different sellers and 1 positive out to kaboomracks robert van kirk runs the store use it in the search box and you can message him. At the moment I have no idea if he is any good But I am looking to get some used gear from him with a paypal purchase. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on March 07, 2019, 05:51:01 PM If your worried why not use an escrow for your deal. They posted a WTS thread on the forum so treat them like any other seller.
Apart from that if they force you to go offsite to buy, don't pay in crypto. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 07, 2019, 06:13:31 PM If your worried why not use an escrow for your deal. They posted a WTS thread on the forum so treat them like any other seller. Apart from that if they force you to go offsite to buy, don't pay in crypto. I want to pay in paypal as I get 6 months to pay via paypal. he has agreed to bill my paypal. I will be getting 18 s9's with 18 apw3++ So far looks good I am waiting on the shipping quote. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on March 07, 2019, 06:51:41 PM Sorry forgot to address that to artemis. It did sound like you had found a way to start a deal with them. Nice you were able to get the balk rolling with them, are yku doing a local pickup?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on March 07, 2019, 06:55:51 PM I want to pay in paypal as I get 6 months to pay via paypal. he has agreed to bill my paypal. I will be getting 18 s9's with 18 apw3++ So far looks good I am waiting on the shipping quote. Phil! buy my S9's lol Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 08, 2019, 04:13:57 AM I highly recommend go for escrow. It's safe and quick. i deleted your post as I have already answered this. I would only use PayPal as I have 6 months to pay it off with 0 % interest . Part of my expansion is to use my pay pal credit line and not use crypto coins. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on March 08, 2019, 04:12:17 PM Philip has a good strategy there with financing but I would not use this method unless you know you can pay it off in time or your ROI will increase quite a bit as I recall PayPal APR is pretty substantial. Our client service is interesting if people want to build up to new gear, not sure how that would look with financing behind the script styled service with bigger purchases. Doesn't paypal offer 12 mo as well?
What's the pricing on the s9's, not everything we can get is listed since you could order a TV from us and what not. Bitmain was still shipping us s9j's long after they dropped them form the English site. Just takes longer to confirm orders since it's all done through email. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 08, 2019, 04:17:22 PM At the moment I may do nothing at all and wait for the s17 to drop.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on March 08, 2019, 05:59:19 PM I think the "s17" might show Q2 if Bitmain really wants to make money. Hopefully they learned from their s11 release mistake.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 08, 2019, 06:41:02 PM I think the "s17" might show Q2 if Bitmain really wants to make money. Hopefully they learned from their s11 release mistake. It is an interesting set of problems for me. We did this buildout. we are certainly going to expand this location. we are in talks for a much larger build in Warren County. I do not want to fuck up and be too conservative. but I do not want to fuck up and be too aggressive. It looks to me that Clifton power will not exceed 238 volts and run in the 226 to 238 volts range. So we can do all s15 or s17 here eventually. The larger location may be all m10. Tomorrow I am driving to Clifton,NJ with repair parts on the m10 I will see how this goes. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on March 09, 2019, 03:07:48 PM So Phil did you go to Clifton and repair the m10?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 10, 2019, 01:13:28 AM Yes drove up this morning put in the 3 slot bridge and boom here is the gear now
we are doing 546th sha 256 all gear 30.5th m10 https://i.imgur.com/Y2tJmeu.png (https://i.imgur.com/Y2tJmeu.png) the part replaced is in the blue rectangle the other parts were ordered to have on hand if needed https://i.imgur.com/XpyVhql.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/XpyVhql.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on March 10, 2019, 02:09:30 AM Glad to hear you are at full hashrate, overall really quick service for the warranty parts. What would it have been 14 days total from the time you created the ticket to the time the replacement part arrived?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 10, 2019, 04:10:38 AM Glad to hear you are at full hashrate, overall really quick service for the warranty parts. What would it have been 14 days total from the time you created the ticket to the time the replacement part arrived? less maybe 11 days Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on March 10, 2019, 07:39:05 AM nice! very jealous phil!
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on March 10, 2019, 09:00:45 AM Solid troubleshooting. Send me a shopping list for the other builds if you want some pricing for networking, cables, shelving, etc.
Looks like we were close on projection till pango upped their pricing probably due to our exposure in telegram trying to get the warranty and parts order shipped together, correlates the visits we got from china on our time frame and their listing changes. Best result is philip is hashing and shipping was saved with parts in reserve. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 10, 2019, 12:59:26 PM Solid troubleshooting. Send me a shopping list for the other builds if you want some pricing for networking, cables, shelving, etc. Looks like we were close on projection till pango upped their pricing probably due to our exposure in telegram trying to get the warranty and parts order shipped together, correlates the visits we got from china on our time frame and their listing changes. Best result is philip is hashing and shipping was saved with parts in reserve. I found the rma issue to be handled okay say an 8 of 10. Tech help was good. I used teamviewer then purged it from the pc I had loaded it to. Lucky it is a cheap part. and mine farm buy helped with the other parts I ordered this is the part https://pangolinminer.com/product/miner-adapter-board-m10-m10s-d1/ Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on March 10, 2019, 08:35:53 PM So you have
7 x 31 = 217 th m10's 1 s15 = 27th 1 t2turbo = 18th 1 a921 = 18th a total 280th with 10 pieces of gear The rest is s9's,A721's, s7Ln 260th with 24 pieces of gear. what do you plan to add to the mix? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 10, 2019, 08:42:59 PM I was going to go the route of more s9's buy them low price.
I think I am going to only order m10's they fit so much more hash power in the same space as an s9. Maybe a t15 a t17 and a s17 for testing. I also have heard of the L5 for LTC it does 1400mh for 1400 watts It is a small improvement over the L3+ which 2 do 1000mh for 1400 watts I think no more older gear. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on March 11, 2019, 05:11:52 PM I looked at your setup how many m10's could fit if you were all m10?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 11, 2019, 05:14:53 PM the m10 size and shape works well for us. we could fit 8 per rack shelf with 10 shelves 80 m10s
of course that is 80 x 2200 watts or 176 kwatts which we can not cool yet we also do not have that much 'free' power from the solar array. So we are ordering an m10 today the funds sent are https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/3Dh9jM33EhUTbBYm8p4Mo9B6zZdXVPgNyp/ this will be 8th one we will pull the last s7ln and a pair of a721's trading 14th and 2200 watts for 31th and 2200 watts. also more rack space as 3 miners and 2 psus will be removed for the 1 m10 we will be about 65 kwatts which is the goal. So we have 1 m10 coming 2200 watts 1 t15 coming 1600 watts 1 s9 1200 watts 1 l3+ 700 watts 5700 watts to add 1 s7 ln off line 700 watts 2 a721's off line 1500 watts 2200 watts offline this is a gain of 3500 watts also plus 62th - 14 th net gain of 48th btc and 500 mh ltc pretty sure this caps us heat wise as for power we are capped on the solar side but we have way more available power if coins go up in price. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on March 11, 2019, 08:11:31 PM Really nice setup with the solar have you thought about liquid cooling the miners in novec or dielectric coolant?
https://www.engineeredfluids.com/coolfluids Been looking at pulling the boards from my miners and sinking them into this stuff. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on March 11, 2019, 08:25:26 PM Really nice setup with the solar have you thought about liquid cooling the miners in novec or dielectric coolant? https://www.engineeredfluids.com/coolfluids Been looking at pulling the boards from my miners and sinking them into this stuff. well the new unpurchased location could be 2 mega watt build divide by 7 = 280kwatts 24/7/365 If that deal goes through we could consider it. 280 k-watts is about 90-110 m10s around 3ph of hash. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2019, 10:02:21 PM The fan is installed it is a beast :D
It moves 14000 cfm+ 1hp motor 230 volts at 5.5 amps or about 1 s9 ;D temps dropped 25f in 1 hour run time https://i.imgur.com/eIdmaVX.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/eIdmaVX.jpg) https://www.gamut.com/p/direct-drive-exhaust-fan-heavy-duty-1-speeds-shutter-230v-ac-ODI0Mjg1 https://d1rnt4jswe7umx.cloudfront.net/images/products/thumb/5c5e882b5ec0b308793f4e521468ae6c.jpg (https://d1rnt4jswe7umx.cloudfront.net/images/products/thumb/5c5e882b5ec0b308793f4e521468ae6c.jpg) box was about 5 by 5 feet fan is 45 inches by 45 inches https://i.imgur.com/KJW5jqx.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/KJW5jqx.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: ZimbaCardi on April 01, 2019, 10:27:58 PM Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on April 01, 2019, 10:39:49 PM You weren't kidding no messing around there. Between that and the size of the warehouse should be a pretty smooth summer. Is it set to a thermostat or just running constant?
Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW. I can't remember for sure I think I remember hearing s9's were like 200 CFM so if pushed to the max like 90 S9's. I should probably know about the M10's, but I have been more concerned with using my heat not removing it. Summertime everything is a direct exhaust in the garage so no need for fans to be installed. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: minefarmbuy on April 01, 2019, 10:52:08 PM Do it right, do it once?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2019, 11:52:29 PM You weren't kidding no messing around there. Between that and the size of the warehouse should be a pretty smooth summer. Is it set to a thermostat or just running constant? It has a thermostat. Set to 85f for now. Do it right, do it once? Hope so. Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW. there are 20 s9 set to medium and low speeds... about .... 22kwatts .............. to be replaced by m20's 18 l3+ watts saver software about....... about .... 12.6 kwatts 08 m10 full speed.............................. about .... 17.6 kwatts 04 S7Ln med speed .......................... about .... 2.8 kwatts ............ to be replaced by m20's 02 A721 -1 volt setting ...................... about .... 1.5 kwatts ........... to be replaced by m20's 01 A921 -1 volt setting ...................... about .... 1.9 kwatts 01 s15 high speed.............................. about .... 1.6 kwatts 01 t15 high speed............................... about .... 1.6 kwatts 01 T2turbo24 eco setting .................... about .... 1.4 kwatts all told 565 th btc and 8.5 gh ltc say 63 kwatts we have 1 l3+ that drops out a lot 2 s9's that drop out a lot. All l3+ and all s9 are older gear so 35 of 38 working well is pretty good set of numbers Quote from: https://www.gamut.com/p/direct-drive-exhaust-fan-heavy-duty-1-speeds-shutter-230v-ac-ODI0Mjg1 Code: Product Specs Note we paid well under the 1600 usd price We have about 26 kwatts to be replaced by m20's so 8 m20's looks like the plan. This is a small farm or a medium small at best. Our setup can push to 90-95 kwatts (we can do one more panel in our space) 28 m20's that is 2.016ph in the space we have. When I think of a big farm say 1 megawatt it would be 16x the gear. If the m20 v1 72th work well. 1000kwatt/3.3kwatts = 300 m20's per megawatt of power for a m20 v1 setup does 21.6 ph 1000kwatt/1.3kwatts = 769 s9's per megawatt of power for a s9 setup does 10.384 ph We will be looking at a huge change in mining in the next year and 2 months. When I see scale like mine and I think of forum member fanatic_26 pushing to maybe 60 mega watts of gear I am humbled to think of running at best 30 m20 v1's when he could be doing 18000 m20 v1's. oh here is the other photo of the fan install https://i.imgur.com/OQZ1Vsh.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/OQZ1Vsh.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 05, 2019, 02:44:33 PM Hey ! Micro is a global mining cryptography exchange with a different direction and methods than existing exchanges. We are aspiring towards the world´s first gambling exchange platform, and micro gaming system combined with a exchange system. By doing so, we offer alternative convenience, safety and synergy due to our unique system. In addition , we are introducing an innovative trading mining system that aims to create a profit sharing ecosystem along with users through new revenue generation. so mainly the traders and gamblers vary from week to week depending on who participates in the tournamente ! Also, Micro Exchange is currently a Brazil- based exchange. The reason behind the base is due to Brazil´s tremendous potential in the market. Brazilian-based cryptographic exchanges are used for CASH IN/OUT at the moment, especially not for cryptographic trading. Furthermore, Brazilian exchanges charges high transaction fees along with deposit and withdrawal fees in whatever involving various coin transactions. In order to show UI/UX, global-quality, Micros will be able to see and show preempting effects in the Brazilian market Micro is presently operating in all countries, providing all services at a global scale with quality in various languages according to demand. Micro´s goal is to grow within the worldwide platform. So check it out on our website : https : // micro . com .br / pt hope to see you there I neg tagged you for spamming my thread. I disabled link I deleted it To mods please leave it up for a day or two as I sometimes get pm's complaining about negative feedback. I like to show the person what they did to get tagged. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on April 16, 2019, 09:32:57 PM I don't know if you already know about Bitcoin and its potentials oceed because this is the right time to invest in bitcoin. Rofl. Yeah Phil have you heard about BTC and it's potential. It's really hard to tell considering you know everything written in this thread. Had to post this. On topic now have you had any news on the next location i think you said potential for 2 MW? Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 16, 2019, 09:41:10 PM driving up tomorrow to talk with clifton warehouse owner. and add 3 s9's along with 4 l3+
we have been in limbo on second buildout hope to find more news on it soon. Got back from Clifton that build is doing well. video will be live at: https://youtu.be/LXTn9LUI45o The gear is so loud my voice is drowned out. 85db+ noise level Photos coming up soon imgur is also slow https://i.imgur.com/9Hh3Oq3.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/9Hh3Oq3.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/2ProY8L.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/2ProY8L.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/kYOdtZp.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/kYOdtZp.jpg) even with super fan temps inside are 92f https://i.imgur.com/r7UZmfF.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/r7UZmfF.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on April 17, 2019, 11:56:36 PM How much power are you pulling now 70k?
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 17, 2019, 11:57:40 PM I estimate 68-71kwatts
620th BTC 9.8gh LTC More photos this rack has 5 levels 1) 4 s9, 1 m10 = 7,500watts 2) 5 s9, 1 s17, 1 L3 = 8,100watts 3) 7 m10, 1 t2turbo = 16,200watts https://i.imgur.com/KZblZ5x.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/KZblZ5x.jpg) 4) 4 s9, 1L3 = 6,000watts 5) 2 s9, 1L3,1 a921 = 5,200 watts https://i.imgur.com/d7gBuNy.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/d7gBuNy.jpg) So this rack has more then 43000 watts. the other racks are less. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on April 18, 2019, 12:15:34 AM That Row of m10's is impressive You need to move you other m10 to it and move the T2Turbo
That way you will have a row of all eight m10's ;D Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 18, 2019, 12:26:46 AM Oh ocd right ;D
Don't worry We will sort gear better once we put in more power panels. The 2 panels we are using have 18x 30 amp circuits we need to balance loads as the panels are rated at 225 amps each We try to do each and every circuit at 18-21 amps so 18 x 21 = 378 amps of load most circuits are at 18 amps or 324 amps about 162 a panel. So making neat rows of all m10's is second to make 18 circuits at 18-21 amps. Once we get 2 more panels we will have the luxury of shifting racks to a nice clean order of gear. second rack is light on gear 1) a pdu out of sight 2) 2 s9's = 2,600 watts 3) 3 L3+ = 2,400 watts https://i.imgur.com/ECybaoY.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/ECybaoY.jpg) 4) 2 s7ln's. 1 s9 2,700 watts 5) 1 gpu rig 700 watts https://i.imgur.com/mjJQMA4.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/mjJQMA4.jpg) only 8,400 watts. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on April 18, 2019, 12:33:31 AM Phil that first rack has 43,000 watts and 29 miners on it if you had 13 m20's you could replace the whole wattage footprint as 13 x 3300 = 42,900 watts it would also hash 884 to 910 th
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 18, 2019, 12:42:11 AM At yankees we could use 30 m20's for 2040 - 2100 th pulling 99000 watts.
To do this we would need 2 more panels. It may not cool well enough with 99000 watts of power on a hot day. Last rack of gear 1) 2x a721's, 1 t15 = 3,000 watts 2) 5x s9's, 1 pc = 6,600 watts https://i.imgur.com/iHDBJ5T.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/iHDBJ5T.jpg) 3) 7 L3+ 5,600 watts 4) 8 L3+ 6,400 watts https://i.imgur.com/MAjTU87.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/MAjTU87.jpg) 21,000 watts. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on April 18, 2019, 12:51:37 AM Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.
Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies. I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 18, 2019, 01:29:52 AM Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location. Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies. I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential. The Clifton location is 👍 we are going to have a lot hash there. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on April 18, 2019, 01:37:59 AM The Clifton location is 👍 we are going to have a lot hash there. niiiiiiceeeeee! super jealous lol. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 18, 2019, 01:03:53 PM Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location. Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies. I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential. Load needs proof. 3-6 months at higher then what you really want to have them extrapolate a yearly Average. The load is not as much for rebates and credits as it is to justify the amount of the panels. Lets say you have 50 acres and do 250 panels of 320 watts an acre (bigger then us by far) that would be 50 x 250 x 320 = 4 megawatts/7 = 571,428 watts or 570 kwatts 24/7/365 This is not justified unless you are using 570 kwatts an hour. So they would classify you as a commercial power plant = rules and regs up the butt. Especially since NJ will now allow you to sell power to your neighbors at 8 cents which is actually a little better then BTC pays if you mine. The nicest thing about using mining to increase your load is you have a backup if mining fails which is selling power to your neighbors at 8 cents. I don't know that we will every get the big place but the clifton spot is still pretty good. If we get the big place we would rotate all the lessor gear out of Clifton and move it to the new place. We would then load Clifton up with the m10's and the M20's Maybe just maybe some M21's. I also have been talking with Steve from Avalon we may do a few A1021's Lastly we dropped again for diff Quote from: https://diff.cryptothis.com/ Latest Block: 572162 (23 minutes ago) Current Pace: 98.2465% (1635 / 1664.18 expected, 29.18 behind) Current Difficulty: 6393023717201.863XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Next Difficulty: between 6281758155908 and 6285665436540 Next Difficulty Change: between -1.7404% and -1.6793% Previous Retarget: April 6, 2019 at 7:41 PM Next Retarget (earliest): Sunday at 1:28 AM (in 2d 16h 25m 8s) Next Retarget (latest): Sunday at 1:41 AM (in 2d 16h 38m 0s) Projected Epoch Length: between 14d 5h 46m 57s and 14d 5h 59m 49s Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on April 19, 2019, 02:29:01 PM Nice. That's a huge plus that you can sell off what you don't use. Really takes the risk out of the operation especially once it's been up and running mining for a while. Let's say hypothetically the bottom falls out of mining for a while or gets unpredictable come the halving. You can just turn around and turn a profit as an energy producer.
Are there any stipulation on the load being permanent after the panels are installed? Honestly Clifton is a gold mine of info for the home miners right now. The way you are filling and splitting your 30 amp circuits gives us a nice idea what gear to buy to maximize our circuits. I'm not going to benefit from that, as I forged ahead January-March to upgrade. It may help come fall though when I make heating decisions as opposed to efficiency. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 19, 2019, 02:43:05 PM Once panels are in we will need to mine with the load for 1 year.
We will be able then sell some of the power and mine . Or stay all mining. Once again NJ RULES not in many other states. NJ has the air pollution issues caused by coal power plants in PA,OH,WV,IL,IN,IA I did a screen shot on page 2: Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out. All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this. you can see the air pollution path below https://i.imgur.com/M7NbsmU.png Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Steamtyme on April 19, 2019, 03:32:47 PM That's not bad only having to commit the load for 1 year. Well worth the potential risk, even if the worst were to happen the core infrastructure is there. No to mention the ability to be flexible and find a balance. I'm curious if these scenarios have been discussed with the Business/Landowner. If there is no mining are you and Buysolar out? I ask as that's the new potential risk I see of being left holding the bag on hardware.
Not a problem if you don't want to get to far into details. I remembered the map, it reminded me of the mining town I grew up in , it's still weird to me sometimes when I don't taste a little sulfur in the air. Something good has come from it at least on the state level to help push towards renewable sources is a positive. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on April 20, 2019, 02:24:35 AM not to mention if mining is unprofitable you could double as a data center and rent out rack space to non mining entities.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 20, 2019, 03:33:38 AM not to mention if mining is unprofitable you could double as a data center and rent out rack space to non mining entities. have to mention that to buysolar Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on April 20, 2019, 07:27:17 AM have to mention that to buysolar that is my whole intention - build a data center and rent out at least half the space to companies looking to have offsite back ups or to store their servers - that pays my bills and then use the rest of the building to mine. but I cant get a loan unless i can get the electric company to commit to the transformer and they are being bitches about it. I am sure it is normally an easy task and this delay is mostly due to my lack of experience in this type of shit. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: taserz on May 09, 2019, 10:29:48 AM A proper data center setup costs a lot of money plus a/c units and well it's expensive. Looked into it myself as a fail safe and if you're going to do that plan it and build it as you go as renovating for it is gutting everything.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on May 09, 2019, 12:52:34 PM My goal is to build mine as a data center and then also use it for housing miners - the problem is that while I have the land, I cannot get the loan to start building without agreement from the electric company to put in the power I need and the power company is being quite stubborn and does not want to agree.
I am about fed up with the headache of trying and tempted to just sell the land and then look for something ready built that I can modify. The reason I wanted to use this land is that it is adjacent to the property I live on - would be a very short drive to work :) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on July 13, 2019, 07:44:37 PM So I have not updated in a while.
here goes some updates: verizon supplied a router with the modem to the warehouse guy we have been using and it sucks once you go past 50 or so miners. Killed hours and hours on weds the 11th after we got to 831 th and I added the last unit an a1041 avalon the entire network crashed and we could not restore it fully. At the moment we have modem > shit router > 8 port switch> 3 idle ports. 4 ports to warehouse use 1 port to miners to a 48 port cisco switch running our best miners 16 units to do 550th we will do the following next week modem > run 2 new cat 6 eth cables to new router 1)active and 1) spare quality router with 8 ports> 3 ports to 3x 48 port cisco switches run 4 cables 3 active and a spare 4 ports to warehouse use 1 idle port. this should give us easy redundancy . the 3 cisco switches allow us more then we need switch wise as we will have about 26 units a switch. plus a backup cable for router a backup cable for switches. and if a switch dies all of the mining gear can fit on two switches. At the moment we are running 17 pieces of the newer gear gives us 550th all s9's =idle all l3+ = idle some a721 = idle avalon a1041's are back in my garage as they run here but the verizon router simply crashed when ever we ran them. to be fair the verizon router crash 20+ times from 6pm to 11pm weds night not always with avalons in play. We added monster fans. some filters the room can cool 125kwatts of gear maybe more like 150kwatts which is about 600,000 btu of heat My home furnace is only 95,000 btu of heat. Camera screwed up when we lost the net so I have a poor video taken before net crashed. We we running about 110kwatts and room was under 85f note the 3 fans they pull 9000 cfm the fan to the outside does 11,000 cfm Uploading your video. Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/lxscwmuqD28 edit it is up Too loud to talk. the 3 high stack of fans is 3 x 3000 cubic feet per minute we need a safety screen put in. it is not safe as it is setup. this is a link to the fan https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0116TNQJ0 https://i.imgur.com/gpq1p8X.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/gpq1p8X.jpg) Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: TheYankeesWin! on July 14, 2019, 12:11:00 AM So that set of fans means you have a cool space = the warehouse
and a hot space = the mining room 9000 cfm in 11000 cfm out Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on July 14, 2019, 12:14:05 AM yeah let me see if I have a good shot of the mining room from the outside.
exhaust fan https://i.imgur.com/eIdmaVX.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/eIdmaVX.jpg) I took a screen shot of my youtube video https://i.imgur.com/BHNH4RE.png (https://i.imgur.com/BHNH4RE.png) screen shot is of my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXTn9LUI45o we have sealed the room with some tarps since that video and when we added the 3 fans. so it is a cool room with filtered air which feeds into a Hot mining room we will be able to do 160 maybe 180 kwatts. If you look at the newer video with no talking we have a 480volt panel which can provide an additional 250-300kwatts with a transformer. Maybe next spring. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: Artemis3 on July 17, 2019, 02:49:20 PM Your network should really look something like:
Two (or more) modems (or fiber transceiver, whatever) Two (or more) computers (Pc Engines (https://pcengines.ch/) embedded like devices do) Your lan... You can start with one of each of the above, but you want two for redundancy. Openbsd can do an excellent work here, using the links as fail-over, and using the second computer as firewall fail-over itself. This is the same configuration most business lans should use. Of course this needs some software configuring. It might be possible to do with the likes of pf(opn)sense (since that uses pf, anyway) but openbsd is lighter and in my opinion, safer. "Modem" directly connected to switch? bad. Modem should go to pc/router/firewall. And don't blind trust Microtik, an old pc with two nics can do much better (and you use two such PCs for redundancy). You seem to be doing some redundancy inside, but are not paying attention to the outside. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on July 17, 2019, 03:07:32 PM okay
here is current plan verizon modem to 8 port gig wireless router 2 cables from modem to router 1 cable is a backup 8 ports leave router 3 ports to warehouse and needs of warehouse assign 3 ports leave a spare port 3 eth wires to cisco switches 48 port gig 3750 each switch will do 20-30 units for mining 1 eth wire small 5 port switch with 2 pcs to check gear. if this has issues we can add a cablevision/optimum modem so if verizon fails just switch over to cablevison. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on August 29, 2019, 06:16:19 PM keep up the good work and progress Phil!
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on August 29, 2019, 06:30:36 PM keep up the good work and progress Phil! We now have both verizon and optimum 4x 48 port switches 1 on optimum 3 on verizon and tons of spare power as we waiting for a gear deal worth while. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: MoparMiningLLC on August 29, 2019, 06:57:06 PM I hear you. The wife now wants me to give up building a larger mining building on the spare lot and to build her a house instead lol I just need to convince her I need the larger mining building so I CAN build her the house lol.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on April 16, 2020, 02:29:29 PM This project has travelled 🧳 sideways. The host was able to sign a longterm contract for power from the power company. After analyzing all costs he is going with the pre paid power. we still get our power deal 50-50 coin split but no solar for at least six or seven more months.
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: chillfactr on May 19, 2020, 04:28:30 AM Whats the latest news on the build Phil? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on May 19, 2020, 05:29:16 AM Whats the latest news on the build Phil? ??? ??? ??? the owner is hosting with normal grid power. He has a sweet heart deal and he extended it due to covid-19. So we can mine at a profit but we are not doing solar for 2020. We can do about 200kwatts Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: chillfactr on May 20, 2020, 03:14:41 AM Nice that's awesome to be mining at a profit after the halving.
after you kick in solar, are you going to host? or do you have enough machines to fill your allowable Kwh. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on May 20, 2020, 03:29:48 AM Don’t know yet. That won't be decided till covid-19 is over and done with.
The owner of the warehouse complex had to rollback some rentals. There are six buildings and multiple tenants. Some are affected so we need to wait a bit. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: chillfactr on May 22, 2020, 04:34:47 AM Don’t know yet. That won't be decided till covid-19 is over and done with. The owner of the warehouse complex had to rollback some rentals. There are six buildings and multiple tenants. Some are affected so we need to wait a bit. Damn this corona, wrecking alot of futures. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on May 09, 2022, 03:17:19 PM Here we after more than a 16 month delay all approvals by engineers and the town and the power company are done.
Fucking covid slowed this up bigly. Goal is to be fully installed by July of this year. vs dec 2020. 285 kwatts which is about 285/6= 47 kwatts 24/7/365 we were lucky to order the panels when we did as panels have jumped up 30% since we did the order. I will try to show some tight drone shots of this once installed. It will come just in time for the bear market. ;D we now have 45+115= 160 add the 285= 445 kwatts. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: HagssFIN on May 17, 2022, 07:02:21 PM Glad to hear that you still have this project going forward! :)
Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on May 17, 2022, 07:15:48 PM Glad to hear that you still have this project going forward! :) Yeah we are pretty happy that it will be running by July 1 or so. Life has been wicked crazy for last few years for just about everyone. I hope you are well. Title: Re: New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2. Post by: philipma1957 on September 12, 2022, 02:59:13 AM Finally up and running. 260 kwatts and 20 kwatts are delayed due to supply chain issues. note 260 kwatts are about 48-50 kwatts 24/7/365 in grid tied set ups. https://i.imgur.com/AnIG74O.png https://i.imgur.com/hZoHDnb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Uh1MrLO.jpg we will be installing this 30 inch vent this week. https://i.imgur.com/E2BcBBw.jpg .. missing a photo let me see if this fixed it. Okay its good and I deleted my alts post. Well long delays and just in time for eth to go pos and crash the markets. we will do all s17 pros with this. So we put in crash pipes yellow painted Right now load is not set up for mining as I am cleaning all the asic gear. we will take the L3+ s9 Avalon a721 off line. keep the 20 something s17's some s15's and we have a few Avalon 1046 and 1066 to put on line. and 1 whatsminer m10 still runs. we are debating on whether to buy 10 s19xp's for 70k or so |
