New buildout with buysolar has entered stage 2.

[Steamtyme]

Understandable that he didn't want to put any holes in the wall. I hadn't realized it was probably built as an existing electrical room originally.

Yeah I'm still stuck in winter mode and heat conservation  - hard mindset to break with a steady low of -30C lately.

I was wondering what does the overall build have for air intake besides the warehouse doors opening and closing? Probably wouldn't take much to maintain ambient if you have enough exhausts, likely even get away with no fans and natural circulation if you do use the high hats for removal.

[philipma1957]

It is 1c and the room is okay.

At 60f and or 18c   It gets warm.

NJ weather means we have 2 months before we go above 60f a lot.

We will have an external fan sooner then that.

A two speed 5000cfm to 10000cfm with a thermastat.

36 inch .  Since we have about 50 units with 200 cfm fans.  I am pretty sure the two speed fan will do the job.

Keeping space cool won’t be an issue.

That mining room has :

208volt feed
240volt feed
480volt feed

We could pull 500kwatts from the feeds.

But  power cost is 13 cents.

The first 40kwatts is solar and next to free.

After that 13 cents.

Once setup we will have extra gear just in case of a run up in coin price
And tap into the high cost power.

[MoparMiningLLC]

... But  power cost is 13 cents.

The first 40kwatts is solar and next to free.

After that 13 cents.

Once setup we will have extra gear just in case of a run up in coin price
And tap into the high cost power.

ouch, I now love my 5 cent power more after hearing that 13 cent number. lol

[Artemis3]

Just added more sound proofing on the floor Some rubber mats over  the same sound deadening material that is on the walls.

https://i.imgur.com/KpgivIy.png

Drops sound down quite a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/JcDb4VF.png

Can you tell us the name of the material? Is it a thermal/sound insulation material?

[philipma1957]

Can you tell us the name of the material? Is it a thermal/sound insulation material?

home depot sells it

https://www.homedepot.com/p/UltraTouch-48-in-x-6-ft-Radiant-Barrier-with-Recycled-Cotton-30000-11406/100656748

I like using it with this fire/short blanket.

https://www.amazon.com/Tonyko%C2%AE-Fiberglass-Fire-Blanket-39-inch/dp/B01N1F737R/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?

here are some videos using it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mqxy28jPvw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8MwWwctWVw

if you look you can see both the silver/sound proofing and the fire blankets

[OgNasty]

After that 13 cents.

I am always curious when people quote rates.  Is this the bottom line electricity bill number divided by the # of kWh you used, or is this the rate you pay on your electricity plan?

I ask because the 2 numbers can be drastically different.  For example, right now I'm on a plan that has high service charges, but low electrical rates.  I'm paying around $0.05/kWh on electrical usage, but the bottom line on my bill is closer to $0.10/kWh after fees, and lowers with the more electricity I use.

[philipma1957]

I am always curious when people quote rates.  Is this the bottom line electricity bill number divided by the # of kWh you used, or is this the rate you pay on your electricity plan?

I ask because the 2 numbers can be drastically different.  For example, right now I'm on a plan that has high service charges, but low electrical rates.  I'm paying around $0.05/kWh on electrical usage, but the bottom line on my bill is closer to $0.10/kWh after fees, and lowers with the more electricity I use.

that is full cost  

in my state winter rate is

9.1 for power
3.9 for delivery
13.0 total

summer is

12.8 for power
3.9 for delivery
16.7 total

if I adjust for heat benefits in winter and lower the 13 cents I mention it
if I adjust for more cooling costs in summer and raise the 16.7 I mention it.

we have 3 shared locations  for the solar

Clifton NJ
Howell NJ buysolar's office and home

I have my garage. for me mostly testing and setting gear up

my garage setup is 13 cents in winter and can drop heating bill so real cost is 13-2 say 11 cents

my garage setup is 16.7 cents in summer and can raise cooling bill so real cost is  16.7 + 1.3 = 18 cents

most of the time  I don't put in the heating benefits or cooling negatives

I go with 13.0  winter and 16.7 summer.

This winter I have not mined much in house/garage as it is all power company and most everything mines at a loss  at 13 cent power.

Many winters the garage/house was pulling 7kwatts 24/7/365
this winter  2kwatts more or less mostly from prepping gear to go to the bigger Clifton NJ build.

Buysolar also mines less at his home + office setup  as once he goes over 14kwatts he begins the 13 cent cost.

IN Clifton  we are building the foundation (power footprint) so to speak for the solar 300watt x 1000 panel install

the ware house has a 2 acre roof  and 1000 panel max fits.

[OgNasty]

the ware house has a 2 acre roof and 1000 panel max fits.

I hope you show off a drone video of this when it's all done.  I know a guy. 

[philipma1957]

I hope you show off a drone video of this when it's all done.  I know a guy.  

The son of the warehouse owner will be taking some drone shots.

Should look nice.

Our real hope is to do a lot of these warehouse builds.

[Artemis3]

home depot sells it

https://www.homedepot.com/p/UltraTouch-48-in-x-6-ft-Radiant-Barrier-with-Recycled-Cotton-30000-11406/100656748

I like using it with this fire/short blanket.

https://www.amazon.com/Tonyko%C2%AE-Fiberglass-Fire-Blanket-39-inch/dp/B01N1F737R/

Can't open the homedepot link (Getting Access Denied error) finally saw it (thanks anon proxies), it combines the dark (thermal/noise) insulation fabric used inside cars with the thermal silvery insulation. Nice.
The fire blanket is made of fiberglass. I saw in an unrelated youtube video about sound insulating walls that fiberglass is a good (and cheap) sound insulator. For walls they have rolls of a much thicker variant of it.

I saw the silvery thing being used as heat insulation under a roof in a hot tropical climate, it reduced a whole 10°C from 48°C at the underside of the roof (too bad that roof didn't have solar panels), a warehouse they were finishing building they sandwiched two layers of that silvery insulation fabric with polystyrene panels under the roof (polystyrene/silvery fabric/polystyrene/silvery fabric); wonderful thing for thermal, not sure about its sound insulation properties, but i know for a fact that polystyrene itself doesn't work for sound insulation.

The son of the warehouse owner will be taking some drone shots.

Should look nice.

Our real hope is to do a lot of these warehouse builds.

Ever considered doing it abroad? Here in the Caribbean there is so much wasted sun...

[philipma1957]

A Caribbean build would be nice.  But we need to get our feet a bit more wet here at the Jersey shore.

We don't  know the  laws and or rules in the Caribbean when it comes to installs.

Would be nice to have a few setup.


We were up at the buildout yesterday  I did a video.

I also turned off 2 s7Ln and added 2 L3+

Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/Pjaj8OKfJkw


we now have 29 sha 256 on BTC  about 525th
and 16 scrypt on LTC                   about 7.6gh

[arielbit]

very nice 

more power to you and your mining gears.

renewable energy and crypto go hand in hand.

[crazydane]

Very cool project Phil!

Makes my 128 panel 35kWh setup look like a toy setup, lol.  I have had a few days here in February where I have generated 150 kWh in a day though, so I'm not complaining.

I couldn't help but note that you stated you pay the power company $0.13 per kWh but they only credit you back $0.04 for each kWh you put back into the grid.  Did I read that right?

Reason I ask is that here in Virginia, I have net metering and I pay $0.12 per kWh 24/7 year round, and when I produce more than I use, the power company credits me at the exact same rate ($0.12 per kWh).  Now I can't "cash out" it is just a bank of kWh that accumulates on my account, but since I consume more than I put back in the grid, generally speaking, that is not a concern.

So you have no option to just build up a bank of kWh with the power company during the day that you can then burn through at night?  I guess you would need enough mining equipment to make the 2 equal out.  Just seems unfair that they don't credit you at the same rate they charge you.  At least the $0.08 kWh deal to your neighbors make it a little but better.

But overall, you seem to have it all planned out and your business model is sound, it could just have been even better I think, if the power company credited you the kWh at 1:1.

[philipma1957]

Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out.

All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this.

you can see the air pollution path below

[TheYankeesWin!]

So proof of concept was the setup at buysolar place of business?

[philipma1957]

Yes and we got lucky with the 2017 runup.  We paid it off faster then we hoped and have been trying to sell the next buildout since  April-May 2018

we finally hooked up with ware house  in Clifton.

so a 200 watts x 500 panel = 100kwatt first build in Howell
now a 300 watts x 1000 panel= 300kwatt second  build in Clifton

once we show this build to work  we hope for more to come.

Buysolar is NJ based  and this is his idea with some development from me but he truly came up with this first.

If you read his posts  for 2015  he talks about it here and there on the forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948724.msg10492740#msg10492740

this right when we started working together

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948724.msg10508570#msg10508570

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256563.msg13054076#msg13054076

[crazydane]

Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out.

All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this...

Yikes, yeah that looks pretty bad!

Ok, so the credits are for the kWh's you produce, not just the up front cost of the panel themselves?  That would definitely make it more even.

Are you doing anything with SREC trading?  Looks like NJ has a good market for those as well.

I got an account with these guys:

https://www.srectrade.com/

[philipma1957]

Yikes, yeah that looks pretty bad!

Ok, so the credits are for the kWh's you produce, not just the up front cost of the panel themselves?  That would definitely make it more even.

Are you doing anything with SREC trading?  Looks like NJ has a good market for those as well.

I got an account with these guys:

https://www.srectrade.com/

that is on sky's end as he was into solar installs for more then 5 years before BTC was around.

I live less then 5 miles from him  and handle btc+ ltc gear and mining setup.

I promo for this as it works hand and hand

Solar + Crypto = winner in NJ

my job is talkng and blogging it and getting good gear at good prices.

[MoparMiningLLC]

that is on sky's end as he was into solar installs for more then 5 years before BTC was around.

I live less then 5 miles from him  and handle btc+ ltc gear and mining setup.

I promo for this as it works hand and hand

Solar + Crypto = winner in NJ

my job is talkng and blogging it and getting good gear at good prices.

bring those skills to FL - you can start on my spare lot

[philipma1957]

bring those skills to FL - you can start on my spare lot

Would be nice to be in some warm weather.

NJ stays too cold too long.

I got our 7th m10 took a bit to fire up but seems to be working now.

the build will move from 525th to 556th very soon.

I now have to think a bit as to what to do with the older gear.

19 s9's
4 sl7's
2 a721'
1 a921   they do about 280th at about 28000 watts

the  7 m10's  1 s15 1 innosilicon  do about 270 th at 18400 watts

so if I load up on m10s 13 x 2200 = 28600 with an up grade to  416

the plan was to add an m10 a week at a time

getting us to be at about 685th.

but I have heard the trump tax may end in march
I have also heard  the s17 may get launched by years end.

so I now need to think about m10 vs s15 vs s17 vs t17

much more complex set of decisions to guess.