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Title: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 04:16:51 AM
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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I'm curious to see what people think about this.

That was the final sentence at the end of a post.

I'll repeat the post here, I have it saved because I thought and wrote about it over a period of days.

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Where should we focus for 2019? No matter how you look at it, 2018 was a horrible year for the entire cryptocurrency scene. Bitcoin was at the forefront of all of this. Frankly, it doesn't matter what top 100 market cap coin you're invested in. The price movements between the coins correlate massively. You can see this by observing the entire market cap. There is no such thing as pure diversification in cryptocurrency.

The events of 2018 have destroyed the trust of many. There is apparent manipulation. There is a lack of spending within the cryptocurrency economy. There is a lack of production within the cryptocurrency economy. The price movements have been entirely driven up due to manipulation from a select few. This speculation is foolish and it has done no good for the cryptocurrency community.

In what ways are we actually better off from the substantial rise in price? We've seen companies refuse cryptocurrency as a payment option. People have stupidly bought into the hype. There has been losses attributed to cryptocurrency. The news coverage has never been more bleak.

It's easy to blame external forces. Blame the government. Blame the federal reserve. Blame what you want. It does nothing to solve the fundamental problems that cryptocurrency has. I believe the problem isn't with the government. The issue has everything to do with ourselves and cryptocurrency itself.

In its current form, to call cryptocurrency a 'currency' is a stretch. There was a $600 billion speculation on the entirety of cryptocurrency. The actual exchange of goods and services using cryptocurrency wouldn't even be 10% of that. Who is actually using cryptocurrency as a 'currency'? Let's be honest, nobody but a dedicated few. Most people are in cryptocurrency to make a short-term profit. So much for Bitcoin taking over the world. The people who use cryptocurrency want to sell out for USD, the allegedly doomed currency.

The increase in market cap was entirely down to speculation. We're supposed to be against stupid bubbles. Bitcoin was itself a response to the 2008 Financial Crisis caused by the pumping of the real estate bubble. The boom and bust cycle does nothing for real growth. Indexed, we're only marginally better off than we were in 2008. In regards to the cryptocurrency economy, the same applies.

The responsible way to develop the cryptocurrency economy is to look at the fundamentals. People are too focused on unrealistic and frivolous projects to grow the cryptocurrency economy. I embrace the knowledge economy wholeheartedly, but not at the expense of the production, resource or service economy. These basics have been overlooked by the cryptocurrency sphere. Why do we need 50 coins (forks) which do the same thing? There are plenty of coins pegged to a USD in the CoinMarketCap 100. There are plenty of coins which do the same task as Bitcoin. In what way do these so-called projects increase the practical reach of cryptocurrency into the lives of people?

We have to be realistic and practical about the issues cryptocurrency faces. The ideology of sitting on your thumbs, doing nothing, has failed us. Passiveness is a failure. By no means am I advocating for central-planning or economically authoritarian measures. I'm advocating for fundamental capitalist principles. Supply and demand. The needs of consumers. The development of an economy. The richest economies on earth are capitalist, yet they have rules. By no means are these countries a failure.

If we want a reasonable increase in market cap, cryptocurrency needs to accommodate for goods and services. It needs to function like an economy. Fortunately we have solutions that already address the issue of goods. A good example being OpenBazaar. The issue of services is more mucky. I believe we need to prioritise services over goods. Most goods sold aren't done on a business-to-consumer basis. It's largely business-to-business. Where cryptocurrency can gain its own value is by service creation.

Service creation is a no-brainer for cryptocurrency. We can improve the value of cryptocurrency by simply expending time and energy to create utility. People will request services, they will be rendered, this will increase the value. As the quality and category of work improves, the value will too. As jobs will require more knowledge and effort, we will see this reflected in the overall price and size of the cryptocurrency economy. This doesn't require the flooding of dollars to pump up the market. It requires ingenuity and the hard-work of others. The resource that the cryptocurrency will be fundamentally based on is people. This will make it independent and stronger than currencies like USD which is heavily dependent on debt than resources or manufacturing.

Not only does rendering services create value, it will inspire people to better themselves to create quality products. They will utilise skills the have and offer them. If you can do the job, you're part of the solution.

The type of work needs to be based in the real world. The digital gig economy is severely limited in categories and scope. Where can you find a person to walk your dog? Where can you find someone to mow your lawns? Where can you find a mechanic? It's most certainly not on a website like Fiverr or Freelancer. It's not even an option online, aside from some classified boards.

When applied on a global scale, services and cryptocurrency has the fundamental power to change the economy of the world. People will have a chance to offer what they're good at, at competitive prices, to a wide range of customers. Not only will workers earn, they will also be consumers for other products. As spending increases, and more services are rendered, the overall economy will increase and this will be reflected in the market cap. Again, you don't need to speculate to grow. This is fundamental basic economics.

I'm curious to see what people think about this.

This is censorship. If that last sentence was irrelevant, why not just edit it out? Deleting the entire post and the other paragraphs does nothing to improve discussion or spread ideas in the marketplace of ideas. Ridiculous performance from the mods here if you ask me.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: owlcatz on January 23, 2019, 04:35:35 AM
where exactly did you post it? :P


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on January 23, 2019, 04:38:15 AM
Firstly posts get deleted most time when they're off topic, so I ask you,  which board was this posted in?.  Secondly post get deleted when they're low quality, it doesn't matter how long it's. Here is a brief explanation of what can be considered a low quality post. Repeating topic already discussion or started by other users.
 
After reading through your topic [took me something though] I wasn't impressed because it's not a new topic   That's a topic  already been discussed and more are been created on bitcoin discussion board daily.

Ps: Stop creating long topic like this it gets other users discourage from reading them. Topic is just a spam magnet so it's low quality


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 23, 2019, 04:39:43 AM
Did you include the advertising part you did on Medium (https://medium.com/@taskly/cryptocurrency-needs-a-new-direction-41df9ac6aaa6)?

I have created a solution to capitalise on this. I call it Taskly. It is a services platform with a variety of features included to help both consumers and workers. Anyone will be able to offer and find services they need. This will change the world.

Read the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995
 
Visit our website: www.taskly.net



On a semi-related note, please read the forum rules. You are bumping your ANN thread (https://archive.is/bX1WK#selection-2915.0-2915.29) more than the allowed 1 bump every 24 hours.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 04:44:13 AM
where exactly did you post it? :P

In economics.

Firstly posts get deleted most time when they're off topic, so I ask you,  which board was this posted in?.  Secondly post get deleted when they're low quality, it doesn't matter how long it's. Here is a brief explanation of what can be considered a low quality post. Repeating topic already discussion or started by other users.
 
After reading through your topic [took me something though] I wasn't impressed because it's not a new topic   That's a topic  already been discussed and more are been created on bitcoin discussion board daily.

Ps: Stop creating long topic like this it gets other users discourage from reading them. Topic is just a spam magnet so it's low quality

Economics.

Where has the question been addressed in this manner before? Any previous threads you can show me where the answer is identical?

Did you include the advertising part you did on Medium (https://medium.com/@taskly/cryptocurrency-needs-a-new-direction-41df9ac6aaa6)?

I have created a solution to capitalise on this. I call it Taskly. It is a services platform with a variety of features included to help both consumers and workers. Anyone will be able to offer and find services they need. This will change the world.

Read the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995
 
Visit our website: www.taskly.net


That wasn't the part quoted as the deleted reason.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: bill gator on January 23, 2019, 05:10:40 AM
Mods move quickly and are unlikely to provide an exact reason as the expectation is that you understand the rules prior to posting. It seems like there would have been multiple reasons for a moderator to have deleted this post, so I'm unsure what questions remain. The part of your post that is quoted is not meant to explicitly signify the problem; more likely it is just to let you know which post is was for your own reference.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Take some time, read through the rules and continue using the forum after you understand them more fully.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: YOSHIE on January 23, 2019, 06:15:12 AM
Rules:
1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

2. No off-topic posts.

3. No trolling.

Forum and Mod, because posts are often deleted by factors, judging that there are some members in the Bitcointalk discussion forum. do topic posts which are considered topics and ordinary criticism. But the forum judged to be out of the rules and ethics of the existing discussion forum.
Example:

It's easy to blame external forces. Blame the government. Blame the federal reserve. Blame what you want. It does nothing to solve the fundamental problems that cryptocurrency has. I believe the problem isn't with the government. The issue has everything to do with ourselves and cryptocurrency itself.

There is no such thing as pure diversification in cryptocurrency.

The type of work needs to be based in the real world. The digital gig economy is severely limited in categories and scope. Where can you find a person to walk your dog? Where can you find someone to mow your lawns? Where can you find a mechanic? It's most certainly not on a website like Fiverr or Freelancer. It's not even an option online, aside from some classified boards.


You can just make a topic or criticism. (Originally not SARA). But it should not be continuously that seems 'at length, a little but meaningful posting'. Topics and criticism also have limits. as long as the forum value is not feasible, the forum has the right to delete any posts.

Please criticize or discuss the topic in the forum, which the forum needs to know is not allergic to criticism and topics. Moreover, by giving certain 'designations' or 'calls' to other members, the forum judges that it is very inappropriate. ethical norms can be different, but forums also have ethical norms that should be safeguarded especially Meta, bitcoin, economic, local discussions etc.
Maybe that was one of the post factors removed. Hopefully this can be a lesson for everyone to keep including me.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 23, 2019, 06:36:55 AM
Did you include the advertising part you did on Medium (https://medium.com/@taskly/cryptocurrency-needs-a-new-direction-41df9ac6aaa6)?

I have created a solution to capitalise on this. I call it Taskly. It is a services platform with a variety of features included to help both consumers and workers. Anyone will be able to offer and find services they need. This will change the world.

Read the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995
 
Visit our website: www.taskly.net


That wasn't the part quoted as the deleted reason.

The mod could have misquoted. Did you or did you not include the advertisement part in your post?


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: LoyceV on January 23, 2019, 07:29:21 AM
This was your raw unedited post (exluding quotes):
Code:
taskly
2529129
49371087
<a href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php#3">Economy</a> / <a href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0">Economics</a> / <b><a href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100909.msg49371087#msg49371087">Cryptocurrency Needs a New Direction</a></b>

An interesting thread I&#039;ve seen is the following: <a class="ul" href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040262.0">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040262.0</a><br /><br />Where should we focus for 2019? No matter how you look at it, 2018 was a horrible year for the entire cryptocurrency scene. Bitcoin was at the forefront of all of this. Frankly, it doesn&#039;t matter what top 100 market cap coin you&#039;re invested in. The price movements between the coins correlate massively. You can see this by observing the entire market cap. There is no such thing as pure diversification in cryptocurrency. <br /><br />The events of 2018 have destroyed the trust of many. There is apparent manipulation. There is a lack of spending within the cryptocurrency economy. There is a lack of production within the cryptocurrency economy. The price movements have been entirely driven up due to manipulation from a select few. This speculation is foolish and it has done no good for the cryptocurrency community.<br /><br />In what ways are we actually better off from the substantial rise in price? We&#039;ve seen companies refuse cryptocurrency as a payment option. People have stupidly bought into the hype. There has been losses attributed to cryptocurrency. The news coverage has never been more bleak. <br /><br />It&#039;s easy to blame external forces. Blame the government. Blame the federal reserve. Blame what you want. It does nothing to solve the fundamental problems that cryptocurrency has. I believe the problem isn&#039;t with the government. The issue has everything to do with ourselves and cryptocurrency itself.<br /><br />In its current form, to call cryptocurrency a &#039;currency&#039; is a stretch. There was a $600 billion speculation on the entirety of cryptocurrency. The actual exchange of goods and services using cryptocurrency wouldn&#039;t even be 10% of that. Who is actually using cryptocurrency as a &#039;currency&#039;? Let&#039;s be honest, nobody but a dedicated few. Most people are in cryptocurrency to make a short-term profit. So much for Bitcoin taking over the world. The people who use cryptocurrency want to sell out for USD, the allegedly doomed currency.<br /><br />The increase in market cap was entirely down to speculation. We&#039;re supposed to be against stupid bubbles. Bitcoin was itself a response to the 2008 Financial Crisis caused by the pumping of the real estate bubble. The boom and bust cycle does nothing for real growth. Indexed, we&#039;re only marginally better off than we were in 2008. In regards to the cryptocurrency economy, the same applies.<br /><br />The responsible way to develop the cryptocurrency economy is to look at the fundamentals. People are too focused on unrealistic and frivolous projects to grow the cryptocurrency economy. I embrace the knowledge economy wholeheartedly, but not at the expense of the production, resource or service economy. These basics have been overlooked by the cryptocurrency sphere. Why do we need 50 coins (forks) which do the same thing? There are plenty of coins pegged to a USD in the CoinMarketCap 100. There are plenty of coins which do the same task as Bitcoin. In what way do these so-called projects increase the practical reach of cryptocurrency into the lives of people?<br /><br />We have to be realistic and practical about the issues cryptocurrency faces. The ideology of sitting on your thumbs, doing nothing, has failed us. Passiveness is a failure. By no means am I advocating for central-planning or economically authoritarian measures. I&#039;m advocating for fundamental capitalist principles. Supply and demand. The needs of consumers. &nbsp;The development of an economy. The richest economies on earth are capitalist, yet they have rules. By no means are these countries a failure.<br /><br />If we want a reasonable increase in market cap, cryptocurrency needs to accommodate for goods and services. It needs to function like an economy. Fortunately we have solutions that already address the issue of goods. A good example being OpenBazaar. The issue of services is more mucky. I believe we need to prioritise services over goods. Most goods sold aren&#039;t done on a business-to-consumer basis. It&#039;s largely business-to-business. Where cryptocurrency can gain its own value is by service creation. <br /><br />Service creation is a no-brainer for cryptocurrency. We can improve the value of cryptocurrency by simply expending time and energy to create utility. People will request services, they will be rendered, this will increase the value. As the quality and category of work improves, the value will too. As jobs will require more knowledge and effort, we will see this reflected in the overall price and size of the cryptocurrency economy. This doesn&#039;t require the flooding of dollars to pump up the market. It requires ingenuity and the hard-work of others. The resource that the cryptocurrency will be fundamentally based on is people. This will make it independent and stronger than currencies like USD which is heavily dependent on debt than resources or manufacturing. <br /><br />Not only does rendering services create value, it will inspire people to better themselves to create quality products. They will utilise skills the have and offer them. If you can do the job, you&#039;re part of the solution.<br /><br />The type of work needs to be based in the real world. The digital gig economy is severely limited in categories and scope. Where can you find a person to walk your dog? Where can you find someone to mow your lawns? Where can you find a mechanic? It&#039;s most certainly not on a website like Fiverr or Freelancer. It&#039;s not even an option online, aside from some classified boards. <br /><br />When applied on a global scale, services and cryptocurrency has the fundamental power to change the economy of the world. People will have a chance to offer what they&#039;re good at, at competitive prices, to a wide range of customers. Not only will workers earn, they will also be consumers for other products. As spending increases, and more services are rendered, the overall economy will increase and this will be reflected in the market cap. Again, you don&#039;t need to speculate to grow. This is fundamental basic economics.<br /><br />I have created a solution to capitalise on this. I call it Taskly. It is a services platform with a variety of features included to help both consumers and workers. Anyone will be able to offer and find services they need. This will change the world. <br /><br />Read the thread here: <a class="ul" href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995</a><br />&nbsp;<br />Visit our website: <a class="ul" href="http://www.taskly.net">www.taskly.net</a><br /><br />What do you guys think?

It was posted just over 10 hours ago in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100909.msg49371087#msg49371087 and it looks like the whole topic "Cryptocurrency Needs a New Direction" in "Economics" has been deleted. Reading through it quickly, it looks like a generic low-quality post meant to spam your website. How convinient to leave out that part when you complain about a deleted post!


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
This was your raw unedited post (exluding quotes):
It was posted just over 10 hours ago in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100909.msg49371087#msg49371087 and it looks like the whole topic "Cryptocurrency Needs a New Direction" in "Economics" has been deleted. Reading through it quickly, it looks like a generic low-quality post meant to spam your website. How convinient to leave out that part when you complain about a deleted post!

With respect, I disagree with what you're saying and your characterisation of the matter.

The definition of 'low quality' is "of poor or inferior quality."

How is a 10+ paragraph post 'low quality'? The grammar and spelling is proper English (UK). It follows the correct structure of an essay. It's relevant to economics and the entirety of cryptocurrency.

You're entitled to have your opinion, but it is wrong at all levels.

Mods move quickly and are unlikely to provide an exact reason as the expectation is that you understand the rules prior to posting. It seems like there would have been multiple reasons for a moderator to have deleted this post, so I'm unsure what questions remain. The part of your post that is quoted is not meant to explicitly signify the problem; more likely it is just to let you know which post is was for your own reference.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Take some time, read through the rules and continue using the forum after you understand them more fully.

I am well-versed in the rules. I fail to see how my post broke any rules. I appreciate you linking the rules though.

Did you include the advertising part you did on Medium (https://medium.com/@taskly/cryptocurrency-needs-a-new-direction-41df9ac6aaa6)?

I have created a solution to capitalise on this. I call it Taskly. It is a services platform with a variety of features included to help both consumers and workers. Anyone will be able to offer and find services they need. This will change the world.

Read the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995
 
Visit our website: www.taskly.net


That wasn't the part quoted as the deleted reason.

The mod could have misquoted. Did you or did you not include the advertisement part in your post?

Advertisements are allowed. Let me refer you to rule 24:

"24. Advertisements (including signatures within the post area) in posts aren't allowed unless the post is in a thread you started and is really substantial and useful."

My post fits the definition of having substance. It identifies a problem, explains it, provides a solution. As I said above, all in proper English (UK), correct spelling, grammar and convention.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: tmfp on January 23, 2019, 11:58:40 AM

I read your original thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.0) and appreciate that you have put thought into your project and wish you well.
It's not completely clear to me whether your long post was in an existing thread titled ""Cryptocurrency Needs a New Direction" which has been nuked, or was that thread started by you with that post?
Whichever, it's clear that mods are generally deleting threads which have the potential to become spam magnets on generic psuedosubjects and I guess they thought that qualified as such.
On reading your main thread over the last few days I did notice that you were breaking the no bump rule by regularly adding small posts within the time limits allowed.
So, I'd suggest that your multiple deletions have two reasons; the majority of them for bumping and the long post for being in a generic thread, as is indicated by the times of deletion.

https://i.imgur.com/dBS8KAv.png

I can understand that you are upset, but don't get paranoid.

The old guard are censoring our posts. They don't want to see cryptocurrency succeed. They don't see the utility of adoption and cryptocurrency economic development.

Good luck.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: xandry on January 23, 2019, 12:00:18 PM
You're just spammer:
[ANN] Taskly -- Do Jobs, Earn Money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034)
EARN CRYPTO NOW (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100843)
The Failure of the Internet Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100691.0)
+ many deleted posts.

Read rule 22, not 24.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: r1s2g3 on January 23, 2019, 12:23:20 PM
This was your raw unedited post (exluding quotes):
It was posted just over 10 hours ago in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100909.msg49371087#msg49371087 and it looks like the whole topic "Cryptocurrency Needs a New Direction" in "Economics" has been deleted. Reading through it quickly, it looks like a generic low-quality post meant to spam your website. How convinient to leave out that part when you complain about a deleted post!

With respect, I disagree with what you're saying and your characterisation of the matter.

The definition of 'low quality' is "of poor or inferior quality."

How is a 10+ paragraph post 'low quality'? The grammar and spelling is proper English (UK). It follows the correct structure of an essay. It's relevant to economics and the entirety of cryptocurrency.


Your post is low quality according to below consensus of community. It has nothing to do with post length and grammar.

Low Quality involves copying the article and providing the source while HQ involve comprehending the article and initiating the discussion on Pros and cons.

If you are  the original writer in that outside website than you are not allowed to promote your website in this way, it is considered as spam.

Edit:
That wasn't the part quoted as the deleted reason.

Any sensible user in this forum do not quote the full post.  So mod might  just take a small part of your big  post , just to inform you which spam post they deleted.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: Steamtyme on January 23, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
With respect, I disagree with what you're saying and your characterisation of the matter.

The definition of 'low quality' is "of poor or inferior quality."

How is a 10+ paragraph post 'low quality'? The grammar and spelling is proper English (UK). It follows the correct structure of an essay. It's relevant to economics and the entirety of cryptocurrency.

Quantity does not necessarily mean quality.

I'm on mobile so hard to check, but is that a copy of the medium article that was posted above. If so i personally would have reported the thread as a copy of a medium article to spam a company advertisement.

If you want to avoid this in the future, i suggest not trying to reuse the same article, rewrite it so it is unique. A quality post doesn't need to follow essay format.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
You're just spammer:
[ANN] Taskly -- Do Jobs, Earn Money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034)
EARN CRYPTO NOW (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100843)
The Failure of the Internet Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100691.0)
+ many deleted posts.

Read rule 22, not 24.

A spammer wouldn't engage with the community.

I read rule 22.

"22. Advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.) in others threads' is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, in altcoin announcement threads. "

I've never posted my links on anyone else's threads. I started original discussions. Can you show the community and I where I posted on anyone else's threads?

Your post is low quality according to below consensus of community. It has nothing to do with post length and grammar.

That's a subjective interpretation. Not based on anything hard-pressed. I would prefer the rules be enforced on an objective and factual basis.

The subjective interpretation isn't what cryptocurrency is about. It's about the facts and figures. What you're suggesting isn't in the spirit of cryptocurrency.

Low Quality involves copying the article and providing the source while HQ involve comprehending the article and initiating the discussion on Pros and cons.

That isn't what it means, but you're entitled to your subjective interpretations of the rules.

If you are  the original writer in that outside website than you are not allowed to promote your website in this way, it is considered as spam.

Can you show me the rule?

Quantity does not necessarily mean quality.

I'm on mobile so hard to check, but is that a copy of the medium article that was posted above. If so i personally would have reported the thread as a copy of a medium article to spam a company advertisement.

If you want to avoid this in the future, i suggest not trying to reuse the same article, rewrite it so it is unique. A quality post doesn't need to follow essay format.

The BitcoinTalk post was first. The Medium article came after.

A quality post does need to follow an essay format. I've never seen something of quality that doesn't follow any basic conventions.

Just because there's a little thing at the bottom, doesn't render the entire topic null and void. That's called a straw-man fallacy.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: r1s2g3 on January 23, 2019, 01:26:29 PM
Can you show me the rule?

Look like , you are still not understood the rules correctly. There is very large disclaimer before stating the rules.

NOTE: This is meant to serve as a reference/educational/informational thread, NOT a rock solid list of rules.

It simply means, if your post look low-quality/spam they are free to delete it, they do not have mention each and every case explicitly in rules section.



Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: suchmoon on January 23, 2019, 01:46:02 PM
A quality post does need to follow an essay format. I've never seen something of quality that doesn't follow any basic conventions.

Bullshit. I've seen memes of higher quality than your contrived "essay".

Moderators have a wide discretion on how to interpret the rules and your post certainly wasn't anything special worth fighting for. You can try re-posting it if you're so convinced you're right. You don't need to open a thread about every deleted post.

In conclusion, Reddit will be happy to have you. Good luck.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 01:49:26 PM
Can you show me the rule?

Look like , you are still not understood the rules correctly. There is very large disclaimer before stating the rules.

NOTE: This is meant to serve as a reference/educational/informational thread, NOT a rock solid list of rules.
It simply means, if your post look low-quality/spam they are free to delete it, they do not have mention each and every case explicitly in rules section.

So the application of rules is subjective. This is the very thing cryptocurrency is against. We are advocating for a technology based on objectivity, yet the principles of the larger community don't reflect this.

This mere suggestion is an insult to the concept of blockchain itself. It is not what we ought to stand for. If you don't stand for objectivity, than what does blockchain have to offer that the traditional banking sector doesn't?

A quality post does need to follow an essay format. I've never seen something of quality that doesn't follow any basic conventions.

Bullshit. I've seen memes of higher quality than your contrived "essay".

Moderators have a wide discretion on how to interpret the rules and your post certainly wasn't anything special worth fighting for. You can try re-posting it if you're so convinced you're right. You don't need to open a thread about every deleted post.

In conclusion, Reddit will be happy to have you. Good luck.

Calm down.

If it's incorrect and all around a terrible post, why hasn't anyone refuted it? It's so wrong that nobody has rebuked it.

You said you didn't even read it. Maybe you should before commenting.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: bill gator on January 23, 2019, 02:23:40 PM
So the application of rules is subjective. ... If you don't stand for objectivity, ...

The enforcement of the rules has some degree of interpretation and is influenced by the limited amount of resources available to do so. Of course we believe in objectivity, but we haven't exactly developed an automated moderator that is sufficient. Most of the "rules" are just guidelines anyways, but they're something we as a community enforce and the moderators are no different.

You're making way too big of a deal about a deleted post and acting as though it was a personal slight.

Side-Note: Walls of text don't mean the post is good, there is art in brevity and sometimes people don't care to read your ramblings; I'd know.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: suchmoon on January 23, 2019, 02:28:07 PM
Calm down.

If it's incorrect and all around a terrible post, why hasn't anyone refuted it? It's so wrong that nobody has rebuked it.

You said you didn't even read it. Maybe you should before commenting.

Where did I say that? Maybe you should stop making shit up.

Lock the thread. Post your essay again without the ad. Don't go full cryptohunter for one deleted post.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 02:35:45 PM
So the application of rules is subjective. ... If you don't stand for objectivity, ...

The enforcement of the rules has some degree of interpretation and is influenced by the limited amount of resources available to do so. Of course we believe in objectivity, but we haven't exactly developed an automated moderator that is sufficient. Most of the "rules" are just guidelines anyways, but they're something we as a community enforce and the moderators are no different.

You're making way too big of a deal about a deleted post and acting as though it was a personal slight.

Side-Note: Walls of text don't mean the post is good, there is art in brevity and sometimes people don't care to read your ramblings; I'd know.

It's hardly a rule if the application of it is subjective and the rules aren't set in stone. Using that logic, I haven't broken any rules.

Lock the thread. Post your essay again without the ad. Don't go full cryptohunter for one deleted post.

It can't be an essay without a solution.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: hilariousetc on January 23, 2019, 02:37:53 PM
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Quote
I'm curious to see what people think about this.

That was the final sentence at the end of a post.


Why have you snipped this bit out? Was that in the original post or another post added right after it? If so, then that's why. If it contained the advertising link as suggested above then that's probably why.

Your post is low quality according to below consensus of community. It has nothing to do with post length and grammar.

That's a subjective interpretation. Not based on anything hard-pressed. I would prefer the rules be enforced on an objective and factual basis.


Any person who is tasked with enforcing laws or rules does so from a subjective interpretation. How many times do fans and referees disagree on whether something was a foul or not? Some referees would have given the foul whilst some wouldn't. Rules are there as a guide and moderators enforce them as they see fit and as best they can. Sometimes leeway should be allowed. Would you prefer it if a cop gave you a speeding ticket for going one mile over the speed limit? I mean, if we're going by strict rules then you deserve the ticket. Or he could let you off. Same applies here. Not everything is always black and white. Some mods may disagree on something whilst others may agree.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: bill gator on January 23, 2019, 02:40:28 PM
It's hardly a rule if the application of it is subjective and the rules aren't set in stone. Using that logic, I haven't broken any rules.

They're guidelines, Mr. Semantics. Get off your pedestal.

It can't be an essay without a solution.

Tell yourself that.

It follows the correct structure of an essay.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 02:44:32 PM
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Quote
I'm curious to see what people think about this.

That was the final sentence at the end of a post.


Why have you snipped this bit out? Was that in the original post or another post added right after it? If so, then that's why. If it contained the advertising link as suggested above then that's probably why.


I haven't snipped it out. That was the reason for why it was deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/X2vXGhi.png

Quote
Your post is low quality according to below consensus of community. It has nothing to do with post length and grammar.

That's a subjective interpretation. Not based on anything hard-pressed. I would prefer the rules be enforced on an objective and factual basis.


Any person who is tasked with enforcing laws or rules does so from a subjective interpretation. How many times do fans and referees disagree on whether something was a foul or not? Some referees would have given the foul whilst some wouldn't. Rules are there as a guide and moderators enforce them as they see fit and as best they can. Sometimes leeway should be allowed. Would you prefer it if a cop gave you a speeding ticket for going one mile over the speed limit? I mean, if we're going by strict rules then you deserve the ticket. Or he could let you off. Same applies here. Not everything is always black and white. Some mods may disagree on something whilst others may agree.

I don't want to talk about something that is entirely irrelevant, but it's legal to go a few kilometres above speedlimit (in the range of margin error). That renders the one-mile over the speed limit logic invalid.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: tmfp on January 23, 2019, 02:57:25 PM

I don't want to talk

Good.
You don't appear to have learned anything, having just posted another content free bump on your main thread <~4 hours after your previous post.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 03:26:41 PM

I don't want to talk

Good.
You don't appear to have learned anything, having just posted another content free bump on your main thread <~4 hours after your previous post.

Why are you cherry picking my sentences?

The full sentence was "I don't want to talk about something that is entirely irrelevant, but it's legal to go a few kilometres above speedlimit (in the range of margin error)."

This was in the context of discussion of a police comparison. Not the implication that your cherry-picked quote suggests.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: hilariousetc on January 23, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Quote
I'm curious to see what people think about this.

That was the final sentence at the end of a post.


Why have you snipped this bit out? Was that in the original post or another post added right after it? If so, then that's why. If it contained the advertising link as suggested above then that's probably why.


I haven't snipped it out. That was the reason for why it was deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/X2vXGhi.png



Then if it was posted directly after the op then it was probably removed for either being a consecutive post, an illegal bump, or just pointless/unnecessary.

I don't want to talk about something that is entirely irrelevant, but it's legal to go a few kilometres above speedlimit (in the range of margin error). That renders the one-mile over the speed limit logic invalid.

It's wholly relevant. Then what if that person goes one mile over the allowed margin of error? Instant ticket with absolute no chance of getting out of it? What about the sport example? One referee (or moderator) may think something is ok whilst another may not. Whether something is a foul in a sport or not is down to the referee. Some are clear cut and other's aren't. From one angle something may look like a foul but not from another. Spectators sometimes have a better or worse angle than the referee and as such may also disagree. Mods are people and not a connected hive mind and enforce the rules as best they can. Sometimes they make mistakes and sometimes people don't like it, but that's life.

Anyway, regardless of any analogies (relevant or not), your post was probably removed for one of the reasons I stated above so it's best to read the rules to make sure this doesn't happen again.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 04:08:08 PM
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Quote
I'm curious to see what people think about this.

That was the final sentence at the end of a post.


Why have you snipped this bit out? Was that in the original post or another post added right after it? If so, then that's why. If it contained the advertising link as suggested above then that's probably why.


I haven't snipped it out. That was the reason for why it was deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/X2vXGhi.png



Then if it was posted directly after the op then it was probably removed for either being a consecutive post, an illegal bump, or just pointless/unnecessary.

It was in the original post. If it was irrelevant, why not snippet out the part that is irrelevant than destroy the entire thread? Totally counterproductive.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: tmfp on January 23, 2019, 04:09:40 PM

I don't want to talk

Good.
You don't appear to have learned anything, having just posted another content free bump on your main thread <~4 hours after your previous post.

Why are you cherry picking my sentences?

The full sentence was "I don't want to talk about something that is entirely irrelevant, but it's legal to go a few kilometres above speedlimit (in the range of margin error)."

This was in the context of discussion of a police comparison. Not the implication that your cherry-picked quote suggests.

It wasn't "cherry picking" in order to distort, it was a suggestion of a course of action you might contemplate taking, that's if you don't want to come across as a whingeing and self righteous moaner who doesn't know when to shut up.
Not the best of impressions for a would be project developer to leave.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 04:15:47 PM

I don't want to talk

Good.
You don't appear to have learned anything, having just posted another content free bump on your main thread <~4 hours after your previous post.

Why are you cherry picking my sentences?

The full sentence was "I don't want to talk about something that is entirely irrelevant, but it's legal to go a few kilometres above speedlimit (in the range of margin error)."

This was in the context of discussion of a police comparison. Not the implication that your cherry-picked quote suggests.

It wasn't "cherry picking" in order to distort, it was a suggestion of a course of action you might contemplate taking, that's if you don't want to come across as a whingeing and self righteous moaner who doesn't know when to shut up.
Not the best of impressions for a would be project developer to leave.

This isn't the type of attitude I'd expect to see from a Legendary Member. Are all 2,500 of your other posts like this?


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: tmfp on January 23, 2019, 04:26:49 PM
This isn't the type of attitude I'd expect to see from a Legendary Member. Are all 2,500 of your other posts like this?

Only where appropriate.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on January 23, 2019, 05:10:06 PM
How is a 10+ paragraph post 'low quality'?

Head on over to the off topic board, there is a 700+ page thread on a flat earth that is almost entirely low/no value!

It's not the length of the post that matters its the size of the post hole that really matters!!  :D



Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: YOSHIE on January 23, 2019, 05:27:14 PM
This discussion has no solution, if you argue. Mod must take one decision?
@Tasky your post deleted may have things for forum security or something else.

Try to see what i found?

Link: https://medium.com/@taskly/cryptocurrency-needs-a-new-direction-41df9ac6aaa6

Where should we focus for 2019? No matter how you look at it, 2018 was a horrible year for the entire cryptocurrency scene. Bitcoin was at the forefront of all of this. Frankly, it doesn’t matter what top 100 market cap coin you’re invested in. The price movements between the coins correlate massively. You can see this by observing the entire market cap. There is no such thing as pure diversification in cryptocurrency.

The events of 2018 have destroyed the trust of many. There is apparent manipulation. There is a lack of spending within the cryptocurrency economy. There is a lack of production within the cryptocurrency economy. The price movements have been entirely driven up due to manipulation from a select few. This speculation is foolish and it has done no good for the cryptocurrency community.

In what ways are we actually better off from the substantial rise in price? We’ve seen companies refuse cryptocurrency as a payment option. People have stupidly bought into the hype. There has been losses attributed to cryptocurrency. The news coverage has never been more bleak.

It’s easy to blame external forces. Blame the government. Blame the federal reserve. Blame what you want. It does nothing to solve the fundamental problems that cryptocurrency has. I believe the problem isn’t with the government. The issue has everything to do with ourselves and cryptocurrency itself.

In its current form, to call cryptocurrency a ‘currency’ is a stretch. There was a $600 billion speculation on the entirety of cryptocurrency. The actual exchange of goods and services using cryptocurrency wouldn’t even be 10% of that. Who is actually using cryptocurrency as a ‘currency’? Let’s be honest, nobody but a dedicated few. Most people are in cryptocurrency to make a short-term profit. So much for Bitcoin taking over the world. The people who use cryptocurrency want to sell out for USD, the allegedly doomed currency.

The increase in market cap was entirely down to speculation. We’re supposed to be against stupid bubbles. Bitcoin was itself a response to the 2008 Financial Crisis caused by the pumping of the real estate bubble. The boom and bust cycle does nothing for real growth. Indexed, we’re only marginally better off than we were in 2008. In regards to the cryptocurrency economy, the same applies.

The responsible way to develop the cryptocurrency economy is to look at the fundamentals. People are too focused on unrealistic and frivolous projects to grow the cryptocurrency economy. I embrace the knowledge economy wholeheartedly, but not at the expense of the production, resource or service economy. These basics have been overlooked by the cryptocurrency sphere. Why do we need 50 coins (forks) which do the same thing? There are plenty of coins pegged to a USD in the CoinMarketCap 100. There are plenty of coins which do the same task as Bitcoin. In what way do these so-called projects increase the practical reach of cryptocurrency into the lives of people?

We have to be realistic and practical about the issues cryptocurrency faces. The ideology of sitting on your thumbs, doing nothing, has failed us. Passiveness is a failure. By no means am I advocating for central-planning or economically authoritarian measures. I’m advocating for fundamental capitalist principles. Supply and demand. The needs of consumers. The development of an economy. The richest economies on earth are capitalist, yet they have rules. By no means are these countries a failure.

If we want a reasonable increase in market cap, cryptocurrency needs to accommodate for goods and services. It needs to function like an economy. Fortunately we have solutions that already address the issue of goods. A good example being OpenBazaar. The issue of services is more mucky. I believe we need to prioritise services over goods. Most goods sold aren't done on a business-to-consumer basis. It's largely business-to-business. Where cryptocurrency can gain its own value is by service creation.

Service creation is a no-brainer for cryptocurrency. We can improve the value of cryptocurrency by simply expending time and energy to create utility. People will request services, they will be rendered, this will increase the value. As the quality and category of work improves, the value will too. As jobs will require more knowledge and effort, we will see this reflected in the overall price and size of the cryptocurrency economy. This doesn’t require the flooding of dollars to pump up the market. It requires ingenuity and the hard-work of others. The resource that the cryptocurrency will be fundamentally based on is people. This will make it independent and stronger than currencies like USD which is heavily dependent on debt than resources or manufacturing.

Not only does rendering services create value, it will inspire people to better themselves to create quality products. They will utilise skills the have and offer them. If you can do the job, you're part of the solution.

The type of work needs to be based in the real world. The digital gig economy is severely limited in categories and scope. Where can you find a person to walk your dog? Where can you find someone to mow your lawns? Where can you find a mechanic? It's most certainly not on a website like Fiverr or Freelancer. It's not even an option online, aside from some classified boards.

When applied on a global scale, services and cryptocurrency has the fundamental power to change the economy of the world.




Where should we focus for 2019? No matter how you look at it, 2018 was a horrible year for the entire cryptocurrency scene. Bitcoin was at the forefront of all of this. Frankly, it doesn't matter what top 100 market cap coin you're invested in. The price movements between the coins correlate massively. You can see this by observing the entire market cap. There is no such thing as pure diversification in cryptocurrency.

The events of 2018 have destroyed the trust of many. There is apparent manipulation. There is a lack of spending within the cryptocurrency economy. There is a lack of production within the cryptocurrency economy. The price movements have been entirely driven up due to manipulation from a select few. This speculation is foolish and it has done no good for the cryptocurrency community.

In what ways are we actually better off from the substantial rise in price? We've seen companies refuse cryptocurrency as a payment option. People have stupidly bought into the hype. There has been losses attributed to cryptocurrency. The news coverage has never been more bleak.

It's easy to blame external forces. Blame the government. Blame the federal reserve. Blame what you want. It does nothing to solve the fundamental problems that cryptocurrency has. I believe the problem isn't with the government. The issue has everything to do with ourselves and cryptocurrency itself.

In its current form, to call cryptocurrency a 'currency' is a stretch. There was a $600 billion speculation on the entirety of cryptocurrency. The actual exchange of goods and services using cryptocurrency wouldn't even be 10% of that. Who is actually using cryptocurrency as a 'currency'? Let's be honest, nobody but a dedicated few. Most people are in cryptocurrency to make a short-term profit. So much for Bitcoin taking over the world. The people who use cryptocurrency want to sell out for USD, the allegedly doomed currency.

The increase in market cap was entirely down to speculation. We're supposed to be against stupid bubbles. Bitcoin was itself a response to the 2008 Financial Crisis caused by the pumping of the real estate bubble. The boom and bust cycle does nothing for real growth. Indexed, we're only marginally better off than we were in 2008. In regards to the cryptocurrency economy, the same applies.

The responsible way to develop the cryptocurrency economy is to look at the fundamentals. People are too focused on unrealistic and frivolous projects to grow the cryptocurrency economy. I embrace the knowledge economy wholeheartedly, but not at the expense of the production, resource or service economy. These basics have been overlooked by the cryptocurrency sphere. Why do we need 50 coins (forks) which do the same thing? There are plenty of coins pegged to a USD in the CoinMarketCap 100. There are plenty of coins which do the same task as Bitcoin. In what way do these so-called projects increase the practical reach of cryptocurrency into the lives of people?

We have to be realistic and practical about the issues cryptocurrency faces. The ideology of sitting on your thumbs, doing nothing, has failed us. Passiveness is a failure. By no means am I advocating for central-planning or economically authoritarian measures. I'm advocating for fundamental capitalist principles. Supply and demand. The needs of consumers. The development of an economy. The richest economies on earth are capitalist, yet they have rules. By no means are these countries a failure.

If we want a reasonable increase in market cap, cryptocurrency needs to accommodate for goods and services. It needs to function like an economy. Fortunately we have solutions that already address the issue of goods. A good example being OpenBazaar. The issue of services is more mucky. I believe we need to prioritise services over goods. Most goods sold aren't done on a business-to-consumer basis. It's largely business-to-business. Where cryptocurrency can gain its own value is by service creation.

Service creation is a no-brainer for cryptocurrency. We can improve the value of cryptocurrency by simply expending time and energy to create utility. People will request services, they will be rendered, this will increase the value. As the quality and category of work improves, the value will too. As jobs will require more knowledge and effort, we will see this reflected in the overall price and size of the cryptocurrency economy. This doesn't require the flooding of dollars to pump up the market. It requires ingenuity and the hard-work of others. The resource that the cryptocurrency will be fundamentally based on is people. This will make it independent and stronger than currencies like USD which is heavily dependent on debt than resources or manufacturing.

Not only does rendering services create value, it will inspire people to better themselves to create quality products. They will utilise skills the have and offer them. If you can do the job, you're part of the solution.

The type of work needs to be based in the real world. The digital gig economy is severely limited in categories and scope. Where can you find a person to walk your dog? Where can you find someone to mow your lawns? Where can you find a mechanic? It's most certainly not on a website like Fiverr or Freelancer. It's not even an option online, aside from some classified boards.

When applied on a global scale, services and cryptocurrency has the fundamental power to change the economy of the world.




Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 05:37:15 PM
How is a 10+ paragraph post 'low quality'?

Head on over to the off topic board, there is a 700+ page thread on a flat earth that is almost entirely low/no value!

It's not the length of the post that matters its the size of the post hole that really matters!!  :D



Why don't you respond to actual points than just cherry picking the ones you want to? Why was my post deleted?


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: bill gator on January 23, 2019, 05:49:12 PM
Why was my post deleted?

Your post was deleted because a moderator deleted it. Only the moderator knows why they deleted it, but you have been provided with several possibilities:

Low Quality / Spam (Your subjective judgement of your own post is irrelevant)
Bumping too frequently
Advertising

There is no need to repeat your already answered question. If you dislike these reasons you will have to swallow it or petition moderators to change their behavior.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 05:51:04 PM
Why was my post deleted?

Your post was deleted because a moderator deleted it. Only the moderator knows why they deleted it

Thank you very much, I wouldn't have guessed otherwise.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: bill gator on January 23, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
Keep expecting redundant answers to your redundant questions.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 05:59:32 PM
Keep expecting redundant answers to your redundant questions.

You're not staff. You're only doing this to post your view count. I didn't post here to be lectured by someone who appeals to authority and has nothing to add to the conversation.

Don't reply back, you're wasting your time.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: bill gator on January 23, 2019, 06:04:42 PM
you're wasting your time.

You're wasting everyone's time. You're asking a question that's already been answered and so I compiled all of the answers and put them in bold so that it's easier for you to understand; it went over your head the first time, clearly.

I didn't post here to be lectured by someone who appeals to authority

No, but you did post here as an appeal to authority yourself.

You have a bad attitude and should just lock the thread. Move on and reflect on the responses you've received. I never claimed I was staff, but continue telling me what to do.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 06:07:11 PM
you're wasting your time.

You're wasting everyone's time. You're asking a question that's already been answered and so I compiled all of the answers and put them in bold so that it's easier for you to understand; it went over your head the first time, clearly.

I didn't post here to be lectured by someone who appeals to authority

No, but you did post here as an appeal to authority.

You have a bad attitude and should just lock the thread. Move on and reflect on the responses you've received. I never claimed I was staff, but continue telling me what to do.

You're wasting your time. Take a hike.

You're not staff, don't post anything, you're doing nothing to resolve the issue at hand. You're more useful as a bystander.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 23, 2019, 06:18:14 PM
I've had posts deleted and even posts I believed to be substantial deleted before -- or posts I've believed to be substantial but the thread it was in was trashed -- and it's never nice and always frustrating but it's best to just get on with it and not take it so personally. The mods have rules and their reasons for removing posts. I support people's right to complain or protest especially if the post that was removed was unjust or removed for political reasons and mods should be held accountable for that if it happens but I don't think this is a big deal and the possible reasons it may have been removed have already been suggested.

PS I would urge you stay away from self moderated threads if you don't like posts being removed. Posting in them is a minefield and people can remove your post for no good reason at all. Good luck getting an explanation about them.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 23, 2019, 06:19:36 PM
Did you ask theymos for permission to put the ad (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=749961.0)? That's what most people/everyone does, even if they believe it counts as substantial.

Also, why did you intentionally remove the ad from the quoted post, and avoid my question asking if you had the ad?


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 06:30:59 PM
Did you ask theymos for permission to put the ad (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=749961.0)? That's what most people/everyone does, even if they believe it counts as substantial.

Also, why did you intentionally remove the ad from the quoted post, and avoid my question asking if you had the ad?

Because it doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 23, 2019, 06:42:26 PM
I've had posts deleted and even posts I believed to be substantial deleted before -- or posts I've believed to be substantial but the thread it was in was trashed -- and it's never nice and always frustrating but it's best to just get on with it and not take it so personally. The mods have rules and their reasons for removing posts. I support people's right to complain or protest especially if the post that was removed was unjust or removed for political reasons and mods should be held accountable for that if it happens but I don't think this is a big deal and the possible reasons it may have been removed have already been suggested.

PS I would urge you stay away from self moderated threads if you don't like posts being removed. Posting in them is a minefield and people can remove your post for no good reason at all. Good luck getting an explanation about them.

I thank you for your post. It's only one of the best ones I've seen posted by everyone, even including me to a point.

I guess you live and you learn. Don't trust self-moderated threads.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: Steamtyme on January 23, 2019, 07:12:39 PM
Because it doesn't matter.

It completely matters.

Whine whine whine, leave out details that are a clear reason, whine some more then act like everyone else is the problem

Get over it. The forum doesn't have to bend to what you think should be allowed. Either conform your posting style to fit within the very broad acceptable posting styles or just continue to advertise through other platforms.

Or here's a thought if it's the content you really care about leave out the advertisement portions.  But you won't.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: suchmoon on January 23, 2019, 08:04:36 PM
You're not staff, don't post anything, you're doing nothing to resolve the issue at hand. You're more useful as a bystander.

Your issue has been resolved. You even got answers from two staff members. Lock the thread and move on.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 24, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
You're not staff, don't post anything, you're doing nothing to resolve the issue at hand. You're more useful as a bystander.

Your issue has been resolved. You even got answers from two staff members. Lock the thread and move on.

What were the answers?


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: hilariousetc on January 24, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
You're not staff, don't post anything, you're doing nothing to resolve the issue at hand. You're more useful as a bystander.

Your issue has been resolved. You even got answers from two staff members. Lock the thread and move on.

What were the answers?

Read the replies. Many possibilities have been given. If the post contained a link at the bottom then the thread was possibly considered advertising spam. I don't care if you write a thesis, if you've only posted it to put your link there then it's probably an advert in my opinion.

It was in the original post. If it was irrelevant, why not snippet out the part that is irrelevant than destroy the entire thread? Totally counterproductive.

It can't have been in the original post. Staff can't snip a bit out and then delete it and you get a notification about it. In the screenshot you provided it's just the "I'm curious to see..." part that has been deleted:

I haven't snipped it out. That was the reason for why it was deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/X2vXGhi.png


Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 24, 2019, 01:20:04 PM
Read the replies. Many possibilities have been given. If the post contained a link at the bottom then the thread was possibly considered advertising spam. I don't care if you write a thesis, if you've only posted it to put your link there then it's probably an advert in my opinion.

Speculation from non-staff users isn't a definitive staff answer.

It can't have been in the original post. Staff can't snip a bit out and then delete it and you get a notification about it. In the screenshot you provided it's just the "I'm curious to see..." part that has been deleted:

No. It was at the bottom of the post. There were no bumps. I never saw any replies before it was posted. Maybe the staff are gaming the algorithms to manually weed out posts they dislike.

[quote author=hilariousetc link=topic=5101049.msg49399913#msg49399913 date=1548335442
Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.
[/quote]

This is an invalid thesis as I didn't do that.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: Lafu on January 24, 2019, 01:22:22 PM
Speculation from non-staff users isn't a definitive staff answer.

Hahahaha lol ok so you dont know !    :D :D :D

Good luck with that.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: hilariousetc on January 24, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
Read the replies. Many possibilities have been given. If the post contained a link at the bottom then the thread was possibly considered advertising spam. I don't care if you write a thesis, if you've only posted it to put your link there then it's probably an advert in my opinion.

Speculation from non-staff users isn't a definitive staff answer.

It can't have been in the original post. Staff can't snip a bit out and then delete it and you get a notification about it. In the screenshot you provided it's just the "I'm curious to see..." part that has been deleted:

No. It was at the bottom of the post. There were no bumps. I never saw any replies before it was posted. Maybe the staff are gaming the algorithms to manually weed out posts they dislike.

Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.

This is an invalid thesis as I didn't do that.

I am an alt of a staff member. See my trust. Nobody other than the person who removed it can tell you for sure why it was removed and I'm still even confused as to what the problem is here because what do you mean it was at the bottom of the post? It can't have been. Staff can't take bits of your post and remove that bit and you get a notification about it. They can remove the post and that post that is removed looks pointless or probably breaks one of the other rules, but until you clarify I can't help you.

Where was the "I'm curious to see what people think about this" posted? Are you saying that little bit was removed from a bigger post, or that post was removed from one of your threads?

Was that post removed from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995




Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: suchmoon on January 24, 2019, 02:48:04 PM
Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.

This is an invalid thesis as I didn't do that.

Now you're straight up lying. Your very first bump was made within ~12h and I wouldn't be surprised there were others that have been deleted. tmfp noticed another one earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49344779#msg49344779


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 24, 2019, 03:03:45 PM
Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.

This is an invalid thesis as I didn't do that.

Now you're straight up lying. Your very first bump was made within ~12h and I wouldn't be surprised there were others that have been deleted. tmfp noticed another one earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49344779#msg49344779

We're talking about another thread. Not the one you refer to. Don't call me a liar until you have your facts straight.

Speculation from non-staff users isn't a definitive staff answer.

Hahahaha lol ok so you dont know !    :D :D :D

Good luck with that.

Why do you think I asked in the first place?

Read the replies. Many possibilities have been given. If the post contained a link at the bottom then the thread was possibly considered advertising spam. I don't care if you write a thesis, if you've only posted it to put your link there then it's probably an advert in my opinion.

Speculation from non-staff users isn't a definitive staff answer.

It can't have been in the original post. Staff can't snip a bit out and then delete it and you get a notification about it. In the screenshot you provided it's just the "I'm curious to see..." part that has been deleted:

No. It was at the bottom of the post. There were no bumps. I never saw any replies before it was posted. Maybe the staff are gaming the algorithms to manually weed out posts they dislike.

Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.

This is an invalid thesis as I didn't do that.

I am an alt of a staff member. See my trust. Nobody other than the person who removed it can tell you for sure why it was removed and I'm still even confused as to what the problem is here because what do you mean it was at the bottom of the post? It can't have been. Staff can't take bits of your post and remove that bit and you get a notification about it. They can remove the post and that post that is removed looks pointless or probably breaks one of the other rules, but until you clarify I can't help you.

Where was the "I'm curious to see what people think about this" posted? Are you saying that little bit was removed from a bigger post, or that post was removed from one of your threads?

Was that post removed from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49337995#msg49337995




Good to see staff here for once.

I'm saying that sentence was apart of the original post.

So you're saying staff can't edit posts, only remove?

It was removed from an other thread I started.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: hilariousetc on January 24, 2019, 03:23:55 PM


Good to see staff here for once.

I'm saying that sentence was apart of the original post.

So you're saying staff can't edit posts, only remove?

It was removed from an other thread I started.

It was a part of the original or apart from it and in another thread? Can you post here exactly what posts you originally made and what they were supposedly edited to because I'm still confused as to what has happened. Staff can edit posts, but are you saying that a staff member must have edited your entire post then deleted it but the only bit that remained of your original was "I'm curious to see..." (but there was much more originally). So to get this straight, you had a big post, a staff member edited it so the only bit that remained was "I'm curious to see..." and then deleted it. Are you really sure that you're just not mistaken and that "I'm curious to see..." was posted after the op and not in the same thread?


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: suchmoon on January 24, 2019, 03:27:21 PM
Therefore, if you posted it straight after the op then it was likely either considered a bump within 24 hours or unnecessary. You don't need to write a post then immediately ask what people think about it. It's both pointless, a consecutive post and a bump*, all of which are against the rules (*if it was made within 24 hours of the last post). I'm not sure what more you want from this. Just take everybody else's advice and move on. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here.

This is an invalid thesis as I didn't do that.

Now you're straight up lying. Your very first bump was made within ~12h and I wouldn't be surprised there were others that have been deleted. tmfp noticed another one earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034.msg49344779#msg49344779

We're talking about another thread. Not the one you refer to. Don't call me a liar until you have your facts straight.

The facts show that you did "do that", i.e. bump in less than 24h.

Give us a link to the "another thread" because it's not clear what you're talking about. You have only two threads: this complaint thread, and your ANN thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100034

Most of your deleted posts (and there are many) were in your ANN thread, except one reply in "The Failure of the Internet Economy" thread, which no longer exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100691.0

Did you create the "failure" thread? Go to your drafts and reconstruct the whole history so that it makes sense.


Title: Re: Why was my post deleted?
Post by: taskly on January 24, 2019, 03:27:39 PM


Good to see staff here for once.

I'm saying that sentence was apart of the original post.

So you're saying staff can't edit posts, only remove?

It was removed from an other thread I started.

It was a part of the original or apart from it and in another thread? Can you post here exactly what posts you originally made and what they were supposedly edited to because I'm still confused as to what has happened. Staff can edit posts, but are you saying that a staff member must have edited your entire post then deleted it but the only bit that remained of your original was "I'm curious to see..." (but there was much more originally). So to get this straight, you had a big post, a staff member edited it so the only bit that remained was "I'm curious to see..." and then deleted it. Are you really sure that you're just not mistaken and that "I'm curious to see..." was posted after the op and not in the same thread?

Firstly, thank you for actively trying to understand the situation.

I made a big post a few days ago. This post was removed, with the quoted part being the "post". I recall this sentence being at the very bottom of the post.

I assume that by quoting that part, they must have taken issue with it. It wouldn't make sense to quote a part that isn't a violation of the rules! I'm trying to understand why they would delete the entire post instead of just editing that part, if that was what they took issue with.