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Title: DigiPiglets
Post by: DigiPiglet on January 24, 2019, 03:19:30 PM
2021 EDIT: The piggy bank project has been halted, but DigiPiglets will continue to exist as NFTs.

Just check out www.DigiPiglets.com for more  :)
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Today, I'd like to announce a new project for the Bitcoin sphere. As we all know, owning Bitcoin can be incredibly easy. Ask the average person on the street though, while most people have awareness of the Bitcoin "brand", they usually don't know how to use it. We want to show people how easy it can be to own Bitcoin, or give it to someone as a gift. To do this, we created DigiPiglets:

www.DigiPiglets.com

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/9e/65/229e659f2d6e9655d7b522b94402b2c1.jpg

Each DigiPiglet will contain a private key which will be printed on a security hologram label, placed underneath the DigiPiglets. To retrieve your coins, you peal off the security label, and use the private key inside to load your coins on to your wallet. We are selling a special edition of bears and bulls for all our investors and traders out there :)

https://i.ibb.co/gvZjpfn/Bear-Regular-View-White-small.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LDTXqgN/Bull-Regular-View-White-small.jpg


What would you like to see?

EDIT1: Shop live! Bitcoin payments enabled. Use Promocode "earlybird" for 20% discount

EDIT2: FAQ and Contact us updated

EDIT3: Comic Series started: https://imgur.com/t/comics/oHIeJVr

EDIT 4: First Prototype arrived

EDIT 5: First Samples arrived.

DigiPiglets on other platforms (more pictures and infos):

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DigiPiglets

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digipiglets/


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 24, 2019, 03:27:26 PM
Quoting the whole post since you are newbie and people can not see the image from your post.

Hi guys!

Today, I'd like to announce a new project for the Bitcoin sphere. As we all know, owning Bitcoin can be incredibly easy. Ask the average person on the street though, while most people have awareness of the Bitcoin "brand", they usually don't know how to use it. We want to show people how easy it can be to own Bitcoin, or give it to someone as a gift. To do this, we created DigiPiglets:

www.DigiPiglets.com
Password: digipiglets

https://i.ibb.co/LpRznC9/Pig-Regular-View-White-small.jpg

Each DigiPiglet will contain a private key which will be printed on a durable piece of paper, and placed inside the animal. It will be made out of a flexible rubber material, to give it a look and feel kind of like a rubber duck. To retrieve your coins, you have to cut open the DigiPiglet, and use the private key inside to load your coins on to your hot wallet. We are selling a limited edition of bears and bulls for all our investors and traders out there :)

https://i.ibb.co/gvZjpfn/Bear-Regular-View-White-small.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LDTXqgN/Bull-Regular-View-White-small.jpg


Let us know what you think! We plan to start shipping in the second quarter of 2019. We will soon be taking Pre-Orders, so stay tuned.
The idea is good but I am still thinking about the security concerns.

== are you going to do 3d printing?
== You really need a bitcoin payment system. Paypal is a no no from me. I am sure for others too who deals with crypto.
== Shipping worldwide?
== What are you thinking about marketing?
== the final website will have not password? right?
== The website looks very nice and clean.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank
Post by: DigiPiglet on January 24, 2019, 04:44:48 PM

The idea is good but I am still thinking about the security concerns.

== are you going to do 3d printing?
== You really need a bitcoin payment system. Paypal is a no no from me. I am sure for others too who deals with crypto.
== Shipping worldwide?
== What are you thinking about marketing?
== the final website will have not password? right?
== The website looks very nice and clean.

Thank you for the edit and the feedback! Not sure what went wrong with the images ???

- 3D Printing: Maybe, we are still testing out different options to find the best results
- Bitcoin Payment: Definitely! Will be available shortly. But we have to offer traditional payment systems, since we are trying to attract newcomers, who, per definition, never had anything to do with Bitcoin before.
- Shipping worldwide: Yes, we do offer worldwide shipment. However, we expect some difficulties with certain counties who are taking a hostile stance towards crypto.
- Marketing: The main focus at the beginning will be to engage with the community here and elsewhere. We'll also create a blog to educate people about crypto in general, and how you can use our product. We are also contemplating various ideas for Guerilla marketing, the use of Social Media and traditional methods.
- The password protection will be gone once we officially launch
- Thank you ;D



Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank
Post by: eternalgloom on January 24, 2019, 05:12:16 PM
How will you be able to ensure that you don't have access to those private keys?
I see that you're trying to reach people who aren't familiar with Bitcoin, but not having your customers be able to generate their own private keys in a secure way seems like a pretty big security concern.

Is it possible to also send Bitcoins into the paper wallet after the customer has received the pig?
How about printing a QR code and public key on the piggy bank itself?

I think it's a cool and unique project for sure, but I'm a little bit concerned at the security aspects of it.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank
Post by: DigiPiglet on January 24, 2019, 06:50:07 PM
How will you be able to ensure that you don't have access to those private keys?
I see that you're trying to reach people who aren't familiar with Bitcoin, but not having your customers be able to generate their own private keys in a secure way seems like a pretty big security concern.

Is it possible to also send Bitcoins into the paper wallet after the customer has received the pig?
How about printing a QR code and public key on the piggy bank itself?

I think it's a cool and unique project for sure, but I'm a little bit concerned at the security aspects of it.

Thanks for the feedback! There are indeed numerous things to consider regarding security. Different ways of storing crypto have different pro's and con's, the best thing people can do, is to not rely on any one method too much, but rather spread out their funds and be aware of risks associated with each method. Whatever doubts you have we will try to address in our blog, educate people about advantages and risks as good as possible, and most of all, take the necessary precautions to ensure security. These will include among others: printing paper wallets on a printer with no hard drive and disconnected from the internet, ensuring that no third parties get in contact with private or public keys, making sure no names can be associated with public addresses, etc...

It will definitely be possible (and encouraged) to send Bitcoin to the paper wallet address, and we will provide users with the address once the order has been made. It might be safer though, if the address is provided separately from the DigiPiglet. A potential thief who might think it's just a children's toy might get the (right) idea and grab it if he sees a QR code.

We are currently evaluating different methods of integrating the private keys into the DigiPiglet, one of which could be a similar arrangement like on Casascius coins. We will definitely consider offering users the option to put in their own private keys and reduce the price accordingly, if people prefer this option. I could imagine though, that people rather pick the easy way. Let me know what you think? We want to encourage people to start saving some money in crypto, just like they do with fiat (only without the inflation). Having a real piggy bank might help people grasp this otherwise "untouchable" asset.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 25, 2019, 10:08:40 AM
How will you be able to ensure that you don't have access to those private keys?
This was my security concern.

We are currently evaluating different methods of integrating the private keys into the DigiPiglet, one of which could be a similar arrangement like on Casascius coins. We will definitely consider offering users the option to put in their own private keys and reduce the price accordingly, if people prefer this option. I could imagine though, that people rather pick the easy way. Let me know what you think? We want to encourage people to start saving some money in crypto, just like they do with fiat (only without the inflation). Having a real piggy bank might help people grasp this otherwise "untouchable" asset.
This will be a decent idea.

I wish you good luck with the project. May be some day I will consider to be your customer. 🙂


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank SHOP LIVE!
Post by: DigiPiglet on January 30, 2019, 12:21:44 PM
We've created a comic series starring the DigiPiglet and his friends, the anxious bear and the excited bull. We want to cover topics like investing, crypto and saving money.

https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/1/30/7c65eaeaa47b0e2d03e22509d5781baa-full.jpg

What do you think? What are the mayor topics people still get wrong about crypto and investing? Let me know what you'd like to see in the future

Link to Imgur: https://imgur.com/gallery/oHIeJVr


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE ARRIVED
Post by: DigiPiglet on March 22, 2019, 08:32:22 AM
A little update: First uncolored prototype arrived (since I can't display any images I'll link the twitter account, if anyone is able to display it that would be great!)


https://twitter.com/DigiPiglets/status/1108884554155261952


As for the private/public key, we will use specialty labels with tamper evidence, made by the same company that provided them for the Casascius and Denarium projects. The labels will be placed at the bottom of the DigiPiglets, so that you won't see it unless you lift it up. The security label will always display the public key, and only reveal the QR code + private key if pealed off.

DigiPiglets are designed to replace your regular piggy bank. People usually don't put thousands of Dollars (Euros/Yuan etc.) into their piggy bank, which is why we believe the security measures should be sufficient for a newcomer. People oftentimes get thrown off Bitcoin, because they have to learn so many other things (at least that's what they believe). Most people still barely know how to use the internet. If you want those same people to adapt Bitcoin, it might help if it comes in the form of something they know, and can hold in their hand. Those people usually don't care about KYC and they don't distrust the government. They do however feel like the money that they are saving is going away. They can't put it safely in a bank anymore, because the interest rates are close to, if not, zero. They can with Bitcoin however, provided they hold long enough. The HODL meme has been getting a bad reputation lately, but empirically, that's the only thing you have to do to get returns on Bitcoin.

We have a blog now as well: https://digipiglets.com/blogs/news

Check it out and leave us a comment. I am happy about any kind of feedback.


DigiPiglets on other platforms (more pictures and infos):


Twitter: https://twitter.com/DigiPiglets

Steemit: https://steemit.com/@nate.french

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digipiglets/

Reddit: u/DigiPiglet


What other animals would you like to see?


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: eternalgloom on March 22, 2019, 10:07:11 AM
Here you go:

https://i.imgur.com/ne7DrRr.png

They look really good actually! I'm glad that you've partnered up with the same company that provided the labels for the Casascius & Denarium coins.
I actually think this uncolored one already looks really nice, I'm a big fan of their general look.

Just checked out your store again and your prices are more than fair!


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: Kakmakr on March 23, 2019, 07:59:41 AM
Glad you added a prototype, but I would like something placed next to the prototype to get the actual size and dimension of the actual piggy Bank. The printing of the actual Private keys is a major concern, because people do not want anyone else to have access to the private keys, other than the owner of that Private key. <I suggest that you redesign the Piggy Bank to make provision for a slot to add your own Private key <piece of paper> or even a slot for a Ledger Nano hardware wallet.>   

Most people want the highest security for their coins and also a good hiding place for those coins. <Shipping the Piggy Banks without any coins or paper wallets will be the way to go, because you can place instructions on a website for people to create their own secure paper wallets or discounts arranged with a partnership with Ledger for their hardware wallets.> (( Buy a hardware wallet and get a piggy bank for a reduced price deals. ))  ;D


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: DigiPiglet on March 24, 2019, 02:33:26 AM
Cheers eternalgloom!

Glad you added a prototype, but I would like something placed next to the prototype to get the actual size and dimension of the actual piggy Bank. The printing of the actual Private keys is a major concern, because people do not want anyone else to have access to the private keys, other than the owner of that Private key. <I suggest that you redesign the Piggy Bank to make provision for a slot to add your own Private key <piece of paper> or even a slot for a Ledger Nano hardware wallet.>  

Most people want the highest security for their coins and also a good hiding place for those coins. <Shipping the Piggy Banks without any coins or paper wallets will be the way to go, because you can place instructions on a website for people to create their own secure paper wallets or discounts arranged with a partnership with Ledger for their hardware wallets.> (( Buy a hardware wallet and get a piggy bank for a reduced price deals. ))  ;D

This picture might help with dimensions. The piglet fits inside the 4cm (1.6 inch) square. The final model will be bigger though.

https://twitter.com/DigiPiglets/status/1109635118438731776

As for the security aspect: I agree that most crypto enthusiasts want the utmost security. Of course, we will take all the necessary precautions to make sure that sensitive data does not get into the wrong hands. I chose the company with the most experience in this field to minimize any possible risk. Either way, DigiPiglets are not designed to store thousands of dollars/euros. DigiPiglets should replace your piggy bank that you put a few bucks in, maybe a couple hundred. The other thing is, that all those hardware wallets have been successfully hacked (by ethical and non-ethical hackers). Paper wallets cannot be hacked. They have other disadvantages, but for the average user, trying to store only a few bucks, they should work in most cases.

Another aspect is, that people don't want to deal with all that technical stuff. As soon as you have to work with a computer or follow some technical instructions, people will be thrown off. There is a great portion of society, that does not work with computers. Those that do rarely even know how to use Google. Those, who are surfing the web constantly, tend to forget how many people participate in this economy without a technical device. This is the opportunity for those people to try out Bitcoin without risking much or having to figure anything out. The toy animals give them something tangible (and hopefully loveable :) ).

I do like the "slot" idea though. We initially planned on placing the label on a coin, inside a slot in the piggy. However, we chose to simplify it, and are considering a spin-off where we use the DigiPiglets theme to create other stuff, so we might end up building some slot-piggys  ;D


I'll post the first colored sample soon. Stay tuned and thanks for all your feedback! If you want to help us push this project, just leave us some comments on Twitter, Instagram etc. ;)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: Kakmakr on March 24, 2019, 06:55:17 PM
Cheers eternalgloom!

Glad you added a prototype, but I would like something placed next to the prototype to get the actual size and dimension of the actual piggy Bank. The printing of the actual Private keys is a major concern, because people do not want anyone else to have access to the private keys, other than the owner of that Private key. <I suggest that you redesign the Piggy Bank to make provision for a slot to add your own Private key <piece of paper> or even a slot for a Ledger Nano hardware wallet.>  

Most people want the highest security for their coins and also a good hiding place for those coins. <Shipping the Piggy Banks without any coins or paper wallets will be the way to go, because you can place instructions on a website for people to create their own secure paper wallets or discounts arranged with a partnership with Ledger for their hardware wallets.> (( Buy a hardware wallet and get a piggy bank for a reduced price deals. ))  ;D

This picture might help with dimensions. The piglet fits inside the 4cm (1.6 inch) square. The final model will be bigger though.

https://twitter.com/DigiPiglets/status/1109635118438731776

As for the security aspect: I agree that most crypto enthusiasts want the utmost security. Of course, we will take all the necessary precautions to make sure that sensitive data does not get into the wrong hands. I chose the company with the most experience in this field to minimize any possible risk. Either way, DigiPiglets are not designed to store thousands of dollars/euros. DigiPiglets should replace your piggy bank that you put a few bucks in, maybe a couple hundred. The other thing is, that all those hardware wallets have been successfully hacked (by ethical and non-ethical hackers). Paper wallets cannot be hacked. They have other disadvantages, but for the average user, trying to store only a few bucks, they should work in most cases.

Another aspect is, that people don't want to deal with all that technical stuff. As soon as you have to work with a computer or follow some technical instructions, people will be thrown off. There is a great portion of society, that does not work with computers. Those that do rarely even know how to use Google. Those, who are surfing the web constantly, tend to forget how many people participate in this economy without a technical device. This is the opportunity for those people to try out Bitcoin without risking much or having to figure anything out. The toy animals give them something tangible (and hopefully loveable :) ).

I do like the "slot" idea though. We initially planned on placing the label on a coin, inside a slot in the piggy. However, we chose to simplify it, and are considering a spin-off where we use the DigiPiglets theme to create other stuff, so we might end up building some slot-piggys  ;D


I'll post the first colored sample soon. Stay tuned and thanks for all your feedback! If you want to help us push this project, just leave us some comments on Twitter, Instagram etc. ;)

Ok, do I understand this correctlly.. you outsourced the creation of the paper wallet to a external company? <I hope you not doing this to wash your hands when something goes wrong with coins getting lost?>

I kind of agree with you that non-technical people might struggle with paper wallet creation and that malware infected pc's might compromise their paper wallets and you might get blamed for it. <Good point>  ;)

Ps : Thank you for the latest picture.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: JanEmil on March 24, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
Maybe add running number or limit the series to get the collectors interested.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: DigiPiglet on March 25, 2019, 02:55:40 AM

Ok, do I understand this correctlly.. you outsourced the creation of the paper wallet to a external company? <I hope you not doing this to wash your hands when something goes wrong with coins getting lost?>

I kind of agree with you that non-technical people might struggle with paper wallet creation and that malware infected pc's might compromise their paper wallets and you might get blamed for it. <Good point>  ;)

Ps : Thank you for the latest picture.

We will generate the keys, encrypt the data and transmit it to the company. They will print the labels and send them to us. A honeycomb pattern will indicate if the label has been tampered with. They have been producing labels for this specific purpose for almost a decade now. As far as I know, the other projects have not been majorly compromised by any attacks, whereas numerous exchanges, hardware wallets, desktop wallets and apps have been hacked. Of course we have to trust the company as well, but they would rather sell more labels than scam a few people for, again, $10 :)

As for the collecting aspect: We want to create a variety of animals in limited edition series (whales, pandas...?). I was also thinking about sending some collectors items to advocates (and maybe opponents too?).

What else you'd like to see?


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: Kakmakr on March 25, 2019, 05:59:33 AM

Ok, do I understand this correctlly.. you outsourced the creation of the paper wallet to a external company? <I hope you not doing this to wash your hands when something goes wrong with coins getting lost?>

I kind of agree with you that non-technical people might struggle with paper wallet creation and that malware infected pc's might compromise their paper wallets and you might get blamed for it. <Good point>  ;)

Ps : Thank you for the latest picture.

We will generate the keys, encrypt the data and transmit it to the company. They will print the labels and send them to us. A honeycomb pattern will indicate if the label has been tampered with. They have been producing labels for this specific purpose for almost a decade now. As far as I know, the other projects have not been majorly compromised by any attacks, whereas numerous exchanges, hardware wallets, desktop wallets and apps have been hacked. Of course we have to trust the company as well, but they would rather sell more labels than scam a few people for, again, $10 :)

As for the collecting aspect: We want to create a variety of animals in limited edition series (whales, pandas...?). I was also thinking about sending some collectors items to advocates (and maybe opponents too?).

What else you'd like to see?

A paper wallet are not limited to taking only small quantities of coins, but I understand that this application would be more targeted at the kids out there and to serve as the modern day <improved> piggy bank of the early days.

At least your implementation with the paper wallet might be more secure than your competition, https://www.coindesk.com/kickstarter-launched-for-piggy-bank-that-lets-kids-save-in-bitcoin


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: 1337ip on March 26, 2019, 03:53:39 AM
Interesting idea for sure.
It does seem like you could setup a program that sends your customers the 10 bucks in bitcoin after they generate a paper wallet themselves to keep in the piggy :)

Then they can come check their paperwallets:
web: http://www.1337ipjbp7u9mi9cdlngl3g5napum7twzm.com/
android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=host.expo.rnpaperwalletchecker

Great way to get some more into crypto though.

(sorry couldn't help the plug :P )


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: klaaas on April 01, 2019, 08:00:51 PM
Cool to see a piggy bank concept again.  Feels like the 2.0 from the foldable piggy banks.
May it be possible, maybe a nfc tag as the wallet inside to make verifying/using easy.

https://i.imgur.com/zUy3A84l.jpg


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on April 01, 2019, 10:05:05 PM
So if I understand the concept correctly, the private keys will be stored inside the Piggy right? What if someone robs the piggy or you lose it due to any circumstances? Do you lose access to your coins as well? That is if the private key is not backed up anywhere?


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 02, 2019, 02:03:01 AM

A paper wallet are not limited to taking only small quantities of coins, but I understand that this application would be more targeted at the kids out there and to serve as the modern day <improved> piggy bank of the early days.

At least your implementation with the paper wallet might be more secure than your competition, https://www.coindesk.com/kickstarter-launched-for-piggy-bank-that-lets-kids-save-in-bitcoin


That's true, we plan to add security instructions and use the opportunity to teach people how to use the private keys properly, and what other methods might be better for storing larger quantities of coins. We could include a little booklet, flyer or card with information. What do you guys think should be included in the manual?


Interesting idea for sure.
It does seem like you could setup a program that sends your customers the 10 bucks in bitcoin after they generate a paper wallet themselves to keep in the piggy :)

Definitely an option, have to check the legal aspect of that.

Cool to see a piggy bank concept again.  Feels like the 2.0 from the foldable piggy banks.
May it be possible, maybe a nfc tag as the wallet inside to make verifying/using easy.

https://i.imgur.com/zUy3A84l.jpg

Also an interesting idea. How safe are those tags (apart from physical theft)? Do you have any experience?


So if I understand the concept correctly, the private keys will be stored inside the Piggy right? What if someone robs the piggy or you lose it due to any circumstances? Do you lose access to your coins as well? That is if the private key is not backed up anywhere?


That's true, physical theft is not ruled out. We are not trying to be the perfect solution to storing Bitcoin. We are trying to be the "entry point" method, easy to use, with no setup required. It's also something that crypto enthusiasts can give as a gift to others, without spending hundreds of dollars.

Thank all of you for the feedback and support!


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: poordeveloper on April 03, 2019, 01:21:56 AM
Is the delivery "box"/envelope at least partially tamper proof, so we can see the piggy bank comes directly from you?

Not talking about labels here but actual physical protection of the label container (the piggy bank).

I understand this isn't made to store millions, but there's no way to know the 0.01s stored there aren't going to be worth those millions one day :)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 03, 2019, 02:18:15 AM
Is the delivery "box"/envelope at least partially tamper proof, so we can see the piggy bank comes directly from you?

Not talking about labels here but actual physical protection of the label container (the piggy bank).

I understand this isn't made to store millions, but there's no way to know the 0.01s stored there aren't going to be worth those millions one day :)

We'll send the packages directly to the customer. As long as the sticker on the DigiPiglet is intact you can be confident your private key is safe. We are considering using security packaging, or a seal on the box. However, you can never achieve 100% security. If someone with the skills puts his mind into hacking you, he'll break through any amount of seals we put on the product. For the majority however, the sticker itself should do the trick. It will also motivate you to hodl, because once the seal is broken, you would throw it away. We'll instruct the users to only use the private key once for safety reasons.

As for your last point: highly agreed :) We'll do our best to make this method as safe as possible


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: Kakmakr on April 03, 2019, 06:40:53 AM
Is the delivery "box"/envelope at least partially tamper proof, so we can see the piggy bank comes directly from you?

Not talking about labels here but actual physical protection of the label container (the piggy bank).

I understand this isn't made to store millions, but there's no way to know the 0.01s stored there aren't going to be worth those millions one day :)

We'll send the packages directly to the customer. As long as the sticker on the DigiPiglet is intact you can be confident your private key is safe. We are considering using security packaging, or a seal on the box. However, you can never achieve 100% security. If someone with the skills puts his mind into hacking you, he'll break through any amount of seals we put on the product. For the majority however, the sticker itself should do the trick. It will also motivate you to hodl, because once the seal is broken, you would throw it away. We'll instruct the users to only use the private key once for safety reasons.

As for your last point: highly agreed :) We'll do our best to make this method as safe as possible

I am not sold on the idea that I would trust this piggy bank with millions of my own dollars. A piggy bank is basically a child's toy to save a few dollars and not a bank account or a serious investment tool to store millions of dollars. This is why I also never store large amounts of money on exchanges and also in online wallets.

I have a sound knowledge on creating my own secure paper wallets, so I am 100% sure that my private keys for my paper wallets are not compromised by someone else, so I will drop millions of dollars worth of bitcoins in them, but not on paper wallets that are created by someone else.  ::) ???


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: eternalgloom on April 03, 2019, 12:31:05 PM
I am not sold on the idea that I would trust this piggy bank with millions of my own dollars. A piggy bank is basically a child's toy to save a few dollars and not a bank account or a serious investment tool to store millions of dollars. This is why I also never store large amounts of money on exchanges and also in online wallets.

I have a sound knowledge on creating my own secure paper wallets, so I am 100% sure that my private keys for my paper wallets are not compromised by someone else, so I will drop millions of dollars worth of bitcoins in them, but not on paper wallets that are created by someone else.  ::) ???

Well, people do trust Casascius with their coins, they even have a 1000 BTC coin, which is actually worth a couple of million USD.
I mean, I get that you think it's safer to just make your own paper wallet, but I really doubt that you could achieve perfect security, there's no such thing...

That said, I guess it's always safer to do everything yourself instead of trusting an external company.
However, I'd have no issue using this to store a couple of Bitcoins.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: milewilda on April 03, 2019, 07:11:21 PM
I am not sold on the idea that I would trust this piggy bank with millions of my own dollars. A piggy bank is basically a child's toy to save a few dollars and not a bank account or a serious investment tool to store millions of dollars. This is why I also never store large amounts of money on exchanges and also in online wallets.

I have a sound knowledge on creating my own secure paper wallets, so I am 100% sure that my private keys for my paper wallets are not compromised by someone else, so I will drop millions of dollars worth of bitcoins in them, but not on paper wallets that are created by someone else.  ::) ???

Well, people do trust Casascius with their coins, they even have a 1000 BTC coin, which is actually worth a couple of million USD.
I mean, I get that you think it's safer to just make your own paper wallet, but I really doubt that you could achieve perfect security, there's no such thing...

That said, I guess it's always safer to do everything yourself instead of trusting an external company.
However, I'd have no issue using this to store a couple of Bitcoins.
I cant even believe that Casascius do able to get that level of trust for some people with their coins but as expected that most of them do have thousands of BTC which
those coins wont really be that much for them to stored up or entrust with such service.
Its really more ideal or much preferable to have my own paper wallet than to entrust my millions rather than on other service but with this one, we arent being forced on using em
up though.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank FIRST PROTOTYPE READY
Post by: eternalgloom on April 04, 2019, 09:40:09 AM
I cant even believe that Casascius do able to get that level of trust for some people with their coins but as expected that most of them do have thousands of BTC which
those coins wont really be that much for them to stored up or entrust with such service.

I don't think there were that many made of the 1000 BTC coins, so it's not like that many people have them.
Still, there are a fair bit of the 1 BTC and higher ones in circulation, a lot of them haven't been cashed in yet either.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - Physical Crypto Piggy Bank -
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 09, 2019, 02:11:17 AM
Our first Samples arrived :D They are designed to be a little squishy, so it can get quite addicting to play around with it ;D

Check out my Reddit thread for pictures and leave us a comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/bb235e/bitcoin_now_has_its_very_own_piggy_bank/

Hope someone can display the image from Reddit.

Our first 10 pre-orders will only pay for shipping and the BTC included (use "lucky10" at checkout).

What do you guys think?


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on April 09, 2019, 09:08:06 AM
Here you go:

https://i.imgur.com/uRTq3vd.png

Can't believe your post was downvoted so much on the Bitcoin subreddit.
I get that it's basically a commercial post, but it's still pretty cool to share I think.

Btw, if you're interested, I'd be willing to write a review of your product on my Steemit blog (https://steemit.com/@daan), which has around 850 followers.
No charge for the article itself, though it would be nice if you could send a piggy bank for free in exchange, so I can review it & add some original photographs.

You can see a review of my services here on CoinScribble (https://media.coinscribble.com/buy/steemit-review-by-daan/)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 09, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Here you go:

https://i.imgur.com/uRTq3vd.png

Can't believe your post was downvoted so much on the Bitcoin subreddit.
I get that it's basically a commercial post, but it's still pretty cool to share I think.

Btw, if you're interested, I'd be willing to write a review of your product on my Steemit blog (https://steemit.com/@daan), which has around 850 followers.
No charge for the article itself, though it would be nice if you could send a piggy bank for free in exchange, so I can review it & add some original photographs.

You can see a review of my services here on CoinScribble (https://media.coinscribble.com/buy/steemit-review-by-daan/)

Thanks for positivity ;D I am definitely sending you a free DigiPiglet once we got the hologram design ready! I'll send you a PM!

I've been thinking about sending a few DigiPiglets to celebrities, important figures of crypto and opponents as well. Who should receive one?


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on April 09, 2019, 11:09:52 AM
Thanks for positivity ;D I am definitely sending you a free DigiPiglet once we got the hologram design ready! I'll send you a PM!

I've been thinking about sending a few DigiPiglets to celebrities, important figures of crypto and opponents as well. Who should receive one?

That's really neat! I know my followers would be very interested in reading about this cool product :)

Ivan on Tech on Youtube would be a good choice as well.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: buwaytress on April 10, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
Nice work OP. Maybe this thread gets better traction in Marketplace? I don't get reddit sometimes too. I've seen innocent posts who're really just trying to share some Bitcoin joy get downvoted to obscurity. And then mindless pics of Bitcoin ATMs or Lambos get the thousands. But hey, who's still trying to figure out how social media works right?

1. Add an option to customise a little. Some small engraved message or something. Added incentive, and all that.

Thanks for positivity ;D I am definitely sending you a free DigiPiglet once we got the hologram design ready! I'll send you a PM!

I've been thinking about sending a few DigiPiglets to celebrities, important figures of crypto and opponents as well. Who should receive one?

That's really neat! I know my followers would be very interested in reading about this cool product :)

Ivan on Tech on Youtube would be a good choice as well.

If you're looking for crypto celebrities, I thought this "Villains of Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5066888.0)" playing/trading cards was a brilliant idea. Maybe all you artists should get together and cross-create from each other's ideas. That could be a shitty idea, I wouldn't know. Not exactly an art expert, as I keep getting told;)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 10, 2019, 08:27:11 PM
Thanks so much for the feedback and the ideas guys! Highly appreciated ! ;D

I've started another thread in Marketplace/Collectibles, probably fits better here (thanks buwaytress). Leave us a comment if you like:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130404.new#new

Meanwhile, Facebook has a problem with our little piglets:

https://ibb.co/SBNTwMq

The lizard people apparently see Bitcoin as their adversary ;D


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: tweetious on April 10, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
1) Where are you located? (i.e. from which country do you dispatch your products) I couldn't find that info on your site. Since there might occur import taxes (depending on your location & the dispatching locations)  I believe that this info should be mentioned somewhere
2) "each DigiPiglet will contain approximately €10 worth of Bitcoin as a starting credit." Are you going to use the bitcoin market value at the time of placing the order (for calculating those €10 into BTC), or at some time later on when you will be ready for dispatching (this info should be crystal clearl & available on your site FAQ)
3) Your idea is not 100% original. There are other companies with similar piggy bank products. What are the strengths of your product compared to what is currently available on the market?

Concerning the private key security issue: one of your competitor does the following: Displays the public address QR code directly to the plastic piggy on open view. Everyone can send BTC to that addy (hence it acts like a piggybank). When you would like to withdraw (i.e. break the piggybank in the traditional way, and collect the funds): the piggy comes with an opendime attached (and the public QR code addy derives from that opendime private key). Hence you break the opendime (instead of the piggy) and the private key is revealed. No private key trust issues here. Also (for more privacy) gives options for the customers to print the QR code itself and place it to the piggy (either from the included opendime or from any other opendime)
I do not want to mention the name of that company here (it would be unethical to do so on your topic, due to competition). I would gladly let you know through PM, however (for research purposes LOL).  ;D


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on April 11, 2019, 09:03:30 AM
Just wanted to mention that I'll be doing a full review of this when it arrives.
I'll be publishing it on my Steemit blog, but I'll make sure to also write about my experiences here on Bitcointalk.

The first thing I have to say is that the ordering process went extremely well.
So many different payment methods (Bitcoin, Paypal, CC, bank deposit, etc.) & his website automatically fills in your address after you've typed a couple of letters.

Looking forward to seeing the BTC piggy bank arrive :)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 11, 2019, 01:47:06 PM
1) Where are you located? (i.e. from which country do you dispatch your products) I couldn't find that info on your site. Since there might occur import taxes (depending on your location & the dispatching locations)  I believe that this info should be mentioned somewhere
2) "each DigiPiglet will contain approximately €10 worth of Bitcoin as a starting credit." Are you going to use the bitcoin market value at the time of placing the order (for calculating those €10 into BTC), or at some time later on when you will be ready for dispatching (this info should be crystal clearl & available on your site FAQ)
3) Your idea is not 100% original. There are other companies with similar piggy bank products. What are the strengths of your product compared to what is currently available on the market?

Concerning the private key security issue: one of your competitor does the following: Displays the public address QR code directly to the plastic piggy on open view. Everyone can send BTC to that addy (hence it acts like a piggybank). When you would like to withdraw (i.e. break the piggybank in the traditional way, and collect the funds): the piggy comes with an opendime attached (and the public QR code addy derives from that opendime private key). Hence you break the opendime (instead of the piggy) and the private key is revealed. No private key trust issues here. Also (for more privacy) gives options for the customers to print the QR code itself and place it to the piggy (either from the included opendime or from any other opendime)
I do not want to mention the name of that company here (it would be unethical to do so on your topic, due to competition). I would gladly let you know through PM, however (for research purposes LOL).  ;D

1) We will be selling from Austria. You can buy Bitcoin in corner stores there. Legal pages for the website are in the works.
2) We'll set up a system, where the Bitcoin are purchased automatically with each sale. For now however, while we're in early stage, we'll buy Bitcoin manually to have it ready once the labels arrive. If the price happens to drop by the time we're ready to ship, we'll just make another market buy and hold the more expensive coins. I think it's quite possible that prices drop to 3k again. We'll make sure that this does not tarnish the user experience. Once the price starts becoming really volatile again though, we won't be able to guarantee that the 10€ will not turn into 5€ or 15€ while the piglets are being shipped over night. That's your typical crypto risk ;D
3) I think I know which project you are referring to, they have a different execution, different features, different advantages and disadvantages. Our design is unique, which makes it stand out more. The underlying "technology" we're using is very simple and requires no setup, no prior knowledge, no computer, literally nothing. Many other projects I've seen are geared towards people that know what they're doing and dealing with. Our goal is to win over those who doubt us, distrust us and don't see the value in it, and therefore don't want to learn anything about it. It's designed to be as simple as possible, requiring literally no steps if you just want to hold on and see where it goes. At the same time it's somewhat familiar, because we are and look like a piggy bank. By adding different models/animals, we increase the novelty character and it becomes a collectible.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: tweetious on April 11, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
1) Where are you located? (i.e. from which country do you dispatch your products) I couldn't find that info on your site. Since there might occur import taxes (depending on your location & the dispatching locations)  I believe that this info should be mentioned somewhere
2) "each DigiPiglet will contain approximately €10 worth of Bitcoin as a starting credit." Are you going to use the bitcoin market value at the time of placing the order (for calculating those €10 into BTC), or at some time later on when you will be ready for dispatching (this info should be crystal clearl & available on your site FAQ)
3) Your idea is not 100% original. There are other companies with similar piggy bank products. What are the strengths of your product compared to what is currently available on the market?

Concerning the private key security issue: one of your competitor does the following: Displays the public address QR code directly to the plastic piggy on open view. Everyone can send BTC to that addy (hence it acts like a piggybank). When you would like to withdraw (i.e. break the piggybank in the traditional way, and collect the funds): the piggy comes with an opendime attached (and the public QR code addy derives from that opendime private key). Hence you break the opendime (instead of the piggy) and the private key is revealed. No private key trust issues here. Also (for more privacy) gives options for the customers to print the QR code itself and place it to the piggy (either from the included opendime or from any other opendime)
I do not want to mention the name of that company here (it would be unethical to do so on your topic, due to competition). I would gladly let you know through PM, however (for research purposes LOL).  ;D

1) We will be selling from Austria. You can buy Bitcoin in corner stores there. Legal pages for the website are in the works.
2) We'll set up a system, where the Bitcoin are purchased automatically with each sale. For now however, while we're in early stage, we'll buy Bitcoin manually to have it ready once the labels arrive. If the price happens to drop by the time we're ready to ship, we'll just make another market buy and hold the more expensive coins. I think it's quite possible that prices drop to 3k again. We'll make sure that this does not tarnish the user experience. Once the price starts becoming really volatile again though, we won't be able to guarantee that the 10€ will not turn into 5€ or 15€ while the piglets are being shipped over night. That's your typical crypto risk ;D
3) I think I know which project you are referring to, they have a different execution, different features, different advantages and disadvantages. Our design is unique, which makes it stand out more. The underlying "technology" we're using is very simple and requires no setup, no prior knowledge, no computer, literally nothing. Many other projects I've seen are geared towards people that know what they're doing and dealing with. Our goal is to win over those who doubt us, distrust us and don't see the value in it, and therefore don't want to learn anything about it. It's designed to be as simple as possible, requiring literally no steps if you just want to hold on and see where it goes. At the same time it's somewhat familiar, because we are and look like a piggy bank. By adding different models/animals, we increase the novelty character and it becomes a collectible.

thanks for the thoughtful explanation. concerning 2) what I meant was: If I place an order today, 10€ is approximately 0.0022BTC with today's market price. When I will receive the product, the loaded value will be 0.0022BTC? (i.e. it will be calculated based on the market price at the time of placing the order? it doesn't matter if the price of BTC increases or decreases since then. 0.0022BTC now will still be 0.0022BTC in the future LOL)

This might be a logistics issue for you, since every piggy will be loaded with a different amount of BTC based on the date the order was placed. Hence, will you consider this approach, or the other approach? (i.e. you will load all the piggy with the exact same amount of BTC, that reflects that 10€ at a specific predetermined date in the future when the product will be ready.. let's say at 1/8/2019)

BTW, I  already placed an order! looking forward to receive it  ;D


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 11, 2019, 10:19:23 PM
thanks for the thoughtful explanation. concerning 2) what I meant was: If I place an order today, 10€ is approximately 0.0022BTC with today's market price. When I will receive the product, the loaded value will be 0.0022BTC? (i.e. it will be calculated based on the market price at the time of placing the order? it doesn't matter if the price of BTC increases or decreases since then. 0.0022BTC now will still be 0.0022BTC in the future LOL)

This might be a logistics issue for you, since every piggy will be loaded with a different amount of BTC based on the date the order was placed. Hence, will you consider this approach, or the other approach? (i.e. you will load all the piggy with the exact same amount of BTC, that reflects that 10€ at a specific predetermined date in the future when the product will be ready.. let's say at 1/8/2019)

BTW, I  already placed an order! looking forward to receive it  ;D

Thanks for the order, much appreciated ;D

If 0.0022BTC become 5€ by the time we are ready to ship to you, we'll add 5€, so that you receive the promised 10€. If 0.0022BTC become 20€ by the time we're ready to ship, you'll receive just that.

That's only for our pre-order stage though. Once everything is fully setup, the customers buy the piglet, our system buys 10€ worth of Bitcoin, we load that amount to the address and ship immediately.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on April 12, 2019, 11:16:39 AM
Have you considered selling these as DIY? I'd feel much more comfortable printing my own private keys and attaching them with a tamper proof hologram. Nothing personal but I don't know you and there is no way you can guarantee that you aren't storing the private keys somewhere.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 12, 2019, 11:54:04 AM
Have you considered selling these as DIY? I'd feel much more comfortable printing my own private keys and attaching them with a tamper proof hologram. Nothing personal but I don't know you and there is no way you can guarantee that you aren't storing the private keys somewhere.

That totally works and makes it even easier for us. If you order the "nocrypto" version, we'll just put the security label next to the Digipiglet, and let you attach it yourself. Since we have to order the labels on bulk, we can't print "your" public key, so the key on the front will not match. But if a burglar not familiar with Bitcoin finds the code underneath the piglet and checks the front part, he'll just find an address with 0 funds, so our code becomes a decoy. Or we leave the code?

I strongly believe though, that the average user want's everything already setup and ready to use, which means we'll have to make sure that the security aspect is flawless.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: Kakmakr on April 14, 2019, 08:11:38 AM
Have you considered selling these as DIY? I'd feel much more comfortable printing my own private keys and attaching them with a tamper proof hologram. Nothing personal but I don't know you and there is no way you can guarantee that you aren't storing the private keys somewhere.

That totally works and makes it even easier for us. If you order the "nocrypto" version, we'll just put the security label next to the Digipiglet, and let you attach it yourself. Since we have to order the labels on bulk, we can't print "your" public key, so the key on the front will not match. But if a burglar not familiar with Bitcoin finds the code underneath the piglet and checks the front part, he'll just find an address with 0 funds, so our code becomes a decoy. Or we leave the code?

I strongly believe though, that the average user want's everything already setup and ready to use, which means we'll have to make sure that the security aspect is flawless.


I do not get the security label? Do you still give a Bitcoin address & Private key with the "nocrypto" version, without attaching it to the device or is the security label not part of the Bitcoin address and Private key combo?

I should say having a code attached, will just give the thief a motive to steal the pig, because he/she would think that it has some coins deposited onto that Bitcoin address. The information should be hidden in a way for the average thief to think that it is just a toy and not something with value. <That would be the perfect decoy>  ;)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on April 14, 2019, 02:18:43 PM
I do not get the security label? Do you still give a Bitcoin address & Private key with the "nocrypto" version, without attaching it to the device or is the security label not part of the Bitcoin address and Private key combo?

I should say having a code attached, will just give the thief a motive to steal the pig, because he/she would think that it has some coins deposited onto that Bitcoin address. The information should be hidden in a way for the average thief to think that it is just a toy and not something with value. <That would be the perfect decoy>  ;)

We're looking into if we can offer two separate versions, so you can chose from a generic label, and one with a public key and concealed private key. Having the private key "inserted" into the pig was the original idea, but I didn't want people to have to cut it open. I'll also consider offering two piglet versions, where one has the public key displayed, and one where it's concealed.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: Kakmakr on April 15, 2019, 05:40:44 AM
I do not get the security label? Do you still give a Bitcoin address & Private key with the "nocrypto" version, without attaching it to the device or is the security label not part of the Bitcoin address and Private key combo?

I should say having a code attached, will just give the thief a motive to steal the pig, because he/she would think that it has some coins deposited onto that Bitcoin address. The information should be hidden in a way for the average thief to think that it is just a toy and not something with value. <That would be the perfect decoy>  ;)

We're looking into if we can offer two separate versions, so you can chose from a generic label, and one with a public key and concealed private key. Having the private key "inserted" into the pig was the original idea, but I didn't want people to have to cut it open. I'll also consider offering two piglet versions, where one has the public key displayed, and one where it's concealed.

I think it would be better if you just displayed the QR code for the Public key and not the actual Bitcoin address. Most criminals are familiar with QR codes on products, so they will not even know that it actually represents a Public key.  8)

You can ship the Public key & instruction leaflet without the Private key and then send the Private key in an encrypted form to the user of that Piggy bank from your website, once they have read the leaflet and followed the instructions.  ???


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on May 08, 2019, 12:27:50 PM
Are there any updates regarding when you think the first units will be shipped out?
I'd love to start work on my review, so looking forward to receiving my review unit ;)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 08, 2019, 08:23:21 PM
Are there any updates regarding when you think the first units will be shipped out?
I'd love to start work on my review, so looking forward to receiving my review unit ;)
They arent showing activity almost 1 month checking out their twitter and their blog it do shows no updates of its product release.

I would love to order as well and i do sent out some questions or clarifications on their Email: info@DigiPiglets.com and also

OP isnt active for almost 2 weeks but lets see if he do respond regarding on this matter.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on May 09, 2019, 10:10:47 AM
Are there any updates regarding when you think the first units will be shipped out?
I'd love to start work on my review, so looking forward to receiving my review unit ;)
They arent showing activity almost 1 month checking out their twitter and their blog it do shows no updates of its product release.

I would love to order as well and i do sent out some questions or clarifications on their Email: info@DigiPiglets.com and also

OP isnt active for almost 2 weeks but lets see if he do respond regarding on this matter.

I think they're just making preparations to get the production sorted.
OP sent me a pm for a free review unit and I've already made an order on their website free of charge.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 09, 2019, 08:36:20 PM
Are there any updates regarding when you think the first units will be shipped out?
I'd love to start work on my review, so looking forward to receiving my review unit ;)
They arent showing activity almost 1 month checking out their twitter and their blog it do shows no updates of its product release.

I would love to order as well and i do sent out some questions or clarifications on their Email: info@DigiPiglets.com and also

OP isnt active for almost 2 weeks but lets see if he do respond regarding on this matter.

I think they're just making preparations to get the production sorted.
OP sent me a pm for a free review unit and I've already made an order on their website free of charge.
They should atleast making some announcement that they are still on sorting phase so that potential buyers would really still have that kind of interest with these Piggy Banks.

I'll wait for your own free review about these piggies.Good thing that they consider you on giving out for free.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on May 10, 2019, 08:48:42 AM
Are there any updates regarding when you think the first units will be shipped out?
I'd love to start work on my review, so looking forward to receiving my review unit ;)
They arent showing activity almost 1 month checking out their twitter and their blog it do shows no updates of its product release.

I would love to order as well and i do sent out some questions or clarifications on their Email: info@DigiPiglets.com and also

OP isnt active for almost 2 weeks but lets see if he do respond regarding on this matter.

I think they're just making preparations to get the production sorted.
OP sent me a pm for a free review unit and I've already made an order on their website free of charge.
They should atleast making some announcement that they are still on sorting phase so that potential buyers would really still have that kind of interest with these Piggy Banks.

I'll wait for your own free review about these piggies.Good thing that they consider you on giving out for free.

I actually just asked for one :P They've sent me a pm with a promo code that eliminated all the costs from my order, so I've actually already ordered it.
Though, I'm actually moving in a couple of months, so might have to change my address.

Hope it doesn't take that long though ;)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on May 10, 2019, 01:13:02 PM
Hey guys! Sorry for being inactive these past weeks. I'll try to update more regularly!

We've made some minor improvements to the design and we are working on the packaging. I believe the packaging is just as important as the product in order to create a good collectible item. Once we've got it all ready I'll update the thread with pictures.

The other part is the printing of the labels. I've talked to a programmer, who is able to write a program that generates keys, sends them to a printer and deletes its memory immediately after. Companies that print PINs for banks, or gambling scratch cards need to adhere to certain security standards (APACS Standards, at least in Europe). Once I can verify that the process is indeed safe and works for our intended purpose, we will proceed with ordering a large batch of labels. Making sure that the method is safe might take a little bit more time than initially anticipated, but if we cannot be sure that the labels can be printed without the risk of duplicates, it won't work.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on May 10, 2019, 05:33:27 PM
No problem, it's good to hear that you're still working on it.
These updates are pretty interesting to read, then we at least know what needs to be solved first :)

Yeah, good that you're not taking any shortcuts regarding security.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 10, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Making sure that the method is safe might take a little bit more time than initially anticipated, but if we cannot be sure that the labels can be printed without the risk of duplicates, it won't work.

Just make it sure that it would able to work.It is good that you are taking serious steps enhancing the security which this should be the primary concern.Hope it would succeed.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on June 27, 2019, 09:15:16 AM
Any new updates regarding the shipping of this?
I'm going to move to a new address soon, so the address I've entered before will not be in use anymore.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on June 29, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
Any new updates regarding the shipping of this?
I'm going to move to a new address soon, so the address I've entered before will not be in use anymore.

Hey eternalgloom, I sent you a PM! Stay tuned


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 29, 2019, 02:01:29 PM
Any new updates regarding the shipping of this?
I'm going to move to a new address soon, so the address I've entered before will not be in use anymore.

Hey eternalgloom, I sent you a PM! Stay tuned
Whats the updates of these piggies?  ;D


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on June 30, 2019, 04:48:51 PM
Any new updates regarding the shipping of this?
I'm going to move to a new address soon, so the address I've entered before will not be in use anymore.

Hey eternalgloom, I sent you a PM! Stay tuned
Whats the updates of these piggies?  ;D

They will get finished eventually ;)
OP's pretty busy with some personal stuff, but I have no doubt that he'll get them ready whenever he has time again :)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: stomachgrowls on July 01, 2019, 02:47:07 PM
Any new updates regarding the shipping of this?
I'm going to move to a new address soon, so the address I've entered before will not be in use anymore.

Hey eternalgloom, I sent you a PM! Stay tuned
Whats the updates of these piggies?  ;D

They will get finished eventually ;)
OP's pretty busy with some personal stuff, but I have no doubt that he'll get them ready whenever he has time again :)
He already Pm'med you about those pigs.Im really excited on what would be your review regarding on this one.

Its okay to be busy as long things would go well in the end.Keeping an eye on this thread.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on July 01, 2019, 03:19:43 PM
@stomachgrowls

Yeah I'm basically paraphrasing what he mentioned in PM ;)
Looking forward to writing the review as well, actually a bunch of people are looking forward to reading it now :P

I must've told at least a dozen people about it already!


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 08, 2019, 09:29:31 PM
@stomachgrowls

Yeah I'm basically paraphrasing what he mentioned in PM ;)
Looking forward to writing the review as well, actually a bunch of people are looking forward to reading it now :P

I must've told at least a dozen people about it already!
Hey man, have you already received your piggies? :) OP's been online on 7 but it didnt make any updates about this piggy bank.Hope we would get some updates soon.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on August 08, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
@stomachgrowls

No, I haven't, but I still need to change my address actually :P
So, OP if you're reading this, I hope you'll send out a notification when you're ready to ship ;)

Really hope you'll be able to go into production soon!


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: eternalgloom on August 31, 2019, 12:29:00 PM
Looks like there's a Kickstarter campaign for this now, just received and email.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nenadfranjic/digipiglets-collectible-piggy-banks-for-digital-money

OP, if you want, I'll write an article to promote this campaign, I think that would work even better than just writing about the product itself?


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS - First 10 Orders 50% off
Post by: DigiPiglet on August 31, 2019, 12:33:59 PM
Looks like there's a Kickstarter campaign for this now, just received and email.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nenadfranjic/digipiglets-collectible-piggy-banks-for-digital-money

OP, if you want, I'll write an article to promote this campaign, I think that would work even better than just writing about the product itself?

Hey eternalgloom, I was just gonna send you a PM ;-) Yes, we've started the campaign to finally get this project of the ground and get the word out. It would be absolutely amazing if you could write an article, anybody who can help promote the project will be gifted with free piglets ;D

Please note that the piglets from Kickstarter will be shipped without a balance due to their rules. But if we manage to receive full funding, we can easily start selling them with a balance to make it easier for people who don't know how to buy Bitcoin themselves.

Stay tuned, more to come


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: eternalgloom on August 31, 2019, 12:50:26 PM
@DigiPiglet

Will definitely write an article for you, looking to get it published by Tuesday at the latest.
Besides that, I've also tweeted it and I'm just about to share it in my company's Slack (I'm working for a blockchain company, so it's definitely relevant).

I hope you reach your target!


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: DigiPiglet on August 31, 2019, 12:59:07 PM
@DigiPiglet

Will definitely write an article for you, looking to get it published by Tuesday at the latest.
Besides that, I've also tweeted it and I'm just about to share it in my company's Slack (I'm working for a blockchain company, so it's definitely relevant).

I hope you reach your target!

That's so awesome, thank you for the support !  :)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: buwaytress on September 01, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
Hey OP! Been a while since I first checked these cuties out. Got an email in my inbox informing of your Kickstarter Live campaign! I see you added a How-To video, sweetness. And the Hi there, later gif, cute.

Only thing. No Bitcoin at Kickstarter! Should add a link back to your site for those who want to pledge/donate/buy with btc because Bitcoin!

P.S. eternalgloom, definitely looking forward to the review. Something about this piggy that makes it... very curious.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 01, 2019, 11:10:42 AM
Hey OP! Been a while since I first checked these cuties out. Got an email in my inbox informing of your Kickstarter Live campaign! I see you added a How-To video, sweetness. And the Hi there, later gif, cute.

Only thing. No Bitcoin at Kickstarter! Should add a link back to your site for those who want to pledge/donate/buy with btc because Bitcoin!

P.S. eternalgloom, definitely looking forward to the review. Something about this piggy that makes it... very curious.

That's right, Kickstarter does not allow financial instruments, which is why they initially rejected the project. I managed to convince them that an empty BTC address is not much of an instrument, so we can sell, but without a balance. The same applies to running a shop on the side with the same product you offer on Kickstarter, that would be promoting an existing business on Kickstarter and is not allowed. If we manage to get funding, we'll start selling using the shop and begin shipping with a balance. Till then, we could work with an exchange or payment system that sends Bitcoin for $/€/¥ etc. to a specific address (the DigiPiglets address). I'll look into it once we get a little traction.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: eternalgloom on September 01, 2019, 12:09:59 PM
@ DigiPiglet

Ahh, so that's why they're not loaded with BTC. Too bad that it's a requirement for Kickstarter.
But hey, you can still sell them pre-loaded via your own website in the future.

@buwaytress

Well, after thinking about it for a little bit, I decided to actually write 2 articles.
The first one will just serve to promote the Kickstarter, I will write that without having actually seen the product.

The second article will be an actual review of the product, with original photographs and perhaps a giveaway or something.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 01, 2019, 03:51:06 PM
@ DigiPiglet

Ahh, so that's why they're not loaded with BTC. Too bad that it's a requirement for Kickstarter.
But hey, you can still sell them pre-loaded via your own website in the future.

@buwaytress

Well, after thinking about it for a little bit, I decided to actually write 2 articles.
The first one will just serve to promote the Kickstarter, I will write that without having actually seen the product.

The second article will be an actual review of the product, with original photographs and perhaps a giveaway or something.

Sounds great, we can also do a little Q&A for your article (give people a little bit of background information since the product is not yet live), just let me know.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: eternalgloom on September 03, 2019, 08:40:05 AM
@DigiPiglet

Sure, we can do that, but it will have to wait until Steem is back to its normal state.
It's currently experiencing some issues with most of the nodes, so I can't publish anything.

I'm hoping it gets fixed by tonight.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 03, 2019, 10:04:03 PM
Glad to hear out some updates but as i had visited the site.This still do require some funding.??

https://i.imgur.com/PZ8thb6.png


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: eternalgloom on September 04, 2019, 08:00:20 AM
@stomachgrowls

Yeah they've started a Kickstarter now, which isn't too bad really.
I mean you still get 2 piggies for €20 and they start shipping in December, I'm just hoping it gets funded since it's an all-or-nothing campaign.


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 04, 2019, 08:29:15 AM
Yes we have a loong way to go. There's still the possibility to exclude the bull and the bear in the first production run which would greatly decrease costs and let us get started on the piglets. I'm constantly looking for blogs and sites that might publish or talk about the campaign. If you come across one such site, let me know. Working with a tight budget is limiting ;D But I'm going to try at least one guerilla marketing tactic to get this going


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: eternalgloom on September 04, 2019, 12:26:47 PM
Got the article published, decided to not include a Q&A part for this one, because I'm having a bit of time-constraints at my end.

https://steemit.com/digipiglets/@daan/check-out-the-digipiglets-kickstarter-campaign-collectible-piggy-banks-for-bitcoin

Will definitely post another one when I have a DigiPiglet in my hands :P


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 04, 2019, 12:47:49 PM
Can't thank you enough for the support :)

I'll try to come up with something to give this a boost


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank NEW SAMPLE PICS
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 04, 2019, 02:13:48 PM
Got the article published, decided to not include a Q&A part for this one, because I'm having a bit of time-constraints at my end.

https://steemit.com/digipiglets/@daan/check-out-the-digipiglets-kickstarter-campaign-collectible-piggy-banks-for-bitcoin

Will definitely post another one when I have a DigiPiglet in my hands :P
I appreciate this article also how much more if the said DigiPiglet would arrive.Cant wait to read up about your next review.
@Op utilize these articles and make use for some exposure. Eternalgloom does really have a good job on here.  ;)


Title: Re: DigiPiglets - BTC Piggy Bank - Kickstarter Campaign live
Post by: eternalgloom on September 04, 2019, 02:25:52 PM
@DigiPiglet & @stomachgrowls

Thanks for the kind words :)

Well, if you want to boost the article, I can always buy some votes for it to get it higher on Steemit.
That's completely up to you though, it's kind of a double edged sword, while it may get higher, it can also attract downvotes because buying votes is frowned upon by some people.

Though I suspect people won't downvote this, because it's pretty long and original content.