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le zynecoin n'est absolument pas une arnaque ,et malgre ta jalousie maladive nous allons accomplir des choses extraordinaires pour l'Afrique .Nous allons construire un orphelinat de grande capacité ! Et nous allons financer la recherche medicale pour eradiquer les maladies comme la lepre,l'obesité la toxoplasmose. Mais notre projet phare reste la construction d'une ligne de chemin de fer reliant Alger a Pretoria !





zynecoin is absolutely not a scam, and despite your sickly jealousy we will do extraordinary things for Africa. We will build a large capacity orphanage somewhere ! We will fund medical research to eliminate diseases such as the disease, obesity of toxoplasmosis. But our project remains under construction of a line of road linking Algiers to Pretoria!

Who is Zynecoin-fondator ?? Crazy man ? You take the idebtity of others persons its very bad !!!
It’s him the scam !!!
I can’t belive that . You are at a this point of hating Africa Project ?
What is not normal in your vead ???
ZYNECOIN FONDATOR IS NOT A MEMBER OF TEAM ZYNCOIN IT S A FAKE !
You want the lost of projet because you know how it s a big project

ZYNECOIN  FONDATOR ACCOUNT IN BITCOINTALK = FAKE NOT MEMBER OF TEAM ZYNECOIN

Hello I don't understand how a person can afford to defame another person!!
I mean, you really have nothing to do except to try to crash a project ? and show someone's privacy? you talk about his sister in a platform where everyone can access!! Do you find that worthy of an educated person? and you want to make people believe that you worry about their money? Do you know anything about cryptocurrency at least??
ALLOW ME TO SAY WHAT I ALSO THINK you're a HATER and wickedness doesn't pay!! and if you have a problem with someone go and talk to him!! don't hide behind your screen to try to influence people  >:( >:( >:(  because no one is stupid enough to believe you.

...and you forget the partnership with the SAMU (an emergency medical intervention services in France or Morocco)

This is a different case from what we usually see on the forum (with the classic fake team, plagiarized WP...)

The real head of the company (Karim BENABDELKADER therefore) does not appear on the ICO official website, probably because of his bad reputation and the judgments in France, but it is he who is behind the project.

For the moment, I don't really know what to do with the project. My deep conviction is that this is a new scam with the potential to be a new "Onecoin" or LionCoin", something like that..

On the other hand, I am sure of two things:

- a lot of new accounts will come soon to defend the project and try to confuse things
- quite quickly, the team's arguments (and its hidden leader) will be to explain that the criticism comes from racist and frustrated europeans who do not want "Africa to succeed".
And it makes me sad because I think Africa deserves better than that.....

The above is more of an opinion than anything else. I'm going to work a little more deeply on the subject


Edit:

Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101448.

Bounty Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102747
(managed by Bountyminer.io)

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By the way, the member Zynecoin (Ann thread OP) explains not knowing Karim Benabdelkader....



And who's this guy ?
(spoiler: meet Karim "influencor", who talks about the project in French for 15 minutes)

https://i.imgur.com/pyALnZn.png

https://www.facebook.com/kbenabdelakder/videos/2455033277904023/?__tn__=%2CdC-R-R&eid=ARDysIqW3Rfytn5e-tV6tXw9YEBB4D-ZXOfzdX4gP_YRzpC6FbGv_sM6q6IkLHrz6lD8WqEtGWFT3S0m&hc_ref=ARTemPJcsOLUFo8wrjgQhv5id4JBE__ugGx7CUU6NnqbGd5t4cInErJHmwSyGcSDbjk&fref=nf


It is an excellent illustration of these people's techniques.

This is probably formally true (he is not a "founder" of the new project - the old one was called "Zeencoin" lol)
But in real life, he's the one in charge.

The Ann thread OP plays on ambiguity

https://i.imgur.com/S0DR7ly.png
Source of this screen: https://forum.bitcoin.com/ico-announcements-f120/the-cryptocurrency-of-reference-in-africa-the-zynecoin-t106120.html

How many billions of dollars do you need for this ? We could take a look at the trans-Sahara Highway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Sahara_Highway) to have an idea...

According "Zynecoin" (the Ann thread OP), "Zynecoin-fondator" member is not a part of their official team
(even if it doesn't remove anything from my suspicions about the project either)
Maybe another trolling..

Ok thanks, I didn't see this. Maybe it's an ironical account.

Btw I have read your link bellow, it doesn't pretty sounds good.... Are they troll too ? The guy on the facebook video didn't convince me at all, all what he said is "we are the best, haters are against Africa, blabla".... But this doens't mean it's a scam.

What I don't understand is "Zynecoin & ZYNECOIN" according to the facebook account it's the same one with a new name.

Last point : why don't they post in the local french board ? They all speak french...

Thanks for the review @Hellmouth42. Let me start off by telling you we certainly aren't a scam.

Zynecoin x SAMU Morocco is a real partnership. Karim is in no way, shape, or form a founder at Zynecoin or in the board in any sort of way. He has been removed due to the hate he has gotten from quite a racist community and that is not welcome at Zynecoin. Thus, the complete external and internal rebranding. He remains an investor and a good friend of some team members. He does talk about the Zynecoin but is not allowed to speak on behalf of it. We do not control his personal communication in anyway and he is free to do as he pleases for his own community. The project is in fact being attacked by some racial slurs and from our point of view we won't do anything about it. If an investor, influencer, or even an advisor communicates anything that isn't coming on behalf of the Zynecoin then it is never an official statement. You can even think of Karim as a bounty miner but again, he is in now way a board member or a founder, he is also not in charge at Zynecoin.

I hope this may have clarified things up for you!  :)


The french ANN post is coming in just a few days!

Karim Benabdelkader has nothing to do with zynecoin, only malicious people can support such a theory. Maybe he's a rogue on several continents, maybe he's bragging about subtracting a million euros to the public treasure, it's not our business! Maybe he bragged to do the same thing with zeencoin, it's not our business! We must really be a paranoiac to say that zeencoin and zynecoin are one and the same project! Do not believe Karim Benabdelkader in the video above on this page when he talks about the name change to get around the bad reputation on google, he says anything!
And only sick minds will claim that it is Karim Benabdelkader who will recover all the funds raised by the ICO, through the development of the application "Hayat" by his company "Applinum"!
His presence on the photo is a photomontage surely realized by the promoters of the bitcoin or the etherum, surely worried to be destroyed by our crypto geniale

Karim Benabdelkader and his team are trustworthy individuals. I invested in this project from the very start in april 2018 and so far i have only seen positive outcome. Karim is very close to the investors, always available for any questions and delivers in time. I have only positive things to say about this token and encourage evrebody to invest in this project which will help developing Africa and at the same time enrich the investors because of the dynamic that holds it.

I don't know but I think OP is up to something, I just searched Zynecoin's data analyst's name, Mossaab Tazi, and it showed him being part of the team of Zeencoin.

Zynecoin's Team Page :
https://i.imgur.com/yOuxEFi.jpg

Even though Zeencoin's website is under maintenance (http://archive.is/xqYJr), I still have recovered Mossaab Tazi's profile in both Google and Yandex showing a link of Zeencoin

One of Zeencoin's Team Profile recovered from Yandex
https://i.imgur.com/kSVKN5d.jpg

The same result is showing in Google's search engine:
https://i.imgur.com/l2wX34a.jpg

So the question now is why is one of their team members right now connected to the previous coin named "Zeencoin"? Can any representative from Zynecoin respond? Because OP really did a great job of connecting you two.

Update # 2 : Found the rest of the Team members being part of Zeencoin as well

Zynecoin's Team Profile :
https://i.imgur.com/s9QE2GO.jpg


Jihad Ouazzani and Khalid Sbai showing up in the first page of Google's Search Result under "Zeencoin Team" :
https://i.imgur.com/e46asFf.jpg

Amine Moukit and Youssef Darim El Yazid showing up in the second page of Google's Search Result under "Zeencoin Team" :
https://i.imgur.com/e46asFf.jpg

So the bottom line is 5 out of 6 team members of Zynecoin are previously part of Zeencoin which is really not a coincidence and shows a great link from them both being connected to each other.

Zynecoin already have admitted that they are a rebranded name [Archived (http://archive.is/VrBUD#selection-4415.118-4415.269)]

Update # 3

Also their Whitepaper are also highly identical
Zeencoin's Whitepaper (http://zeencoin.io/ico/whitepaper.pdf) [Archived (http://archive.is/CrVve) HTML version]
Zynecoin's Whitepaper (https://zynecoin.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/wpz.pdf) [Archived (http://archive.is/5ErOE) HTML Version]

Zeencoin's Whitepaper
https://i.imgur.com/zyF3dFM.jpg

Zynencoin's Whitepaper
https://i.imgur.com/DmqkmcO.jpg

Zeencoin's Whitepaper
https://i.imgur.com/pY5DUg6.jpg

Zynencoin's Whitepaper
https://i.imgur.com/WgU002e.jpg

And that is only the background page for both Zynecoin and Zeencoin, I think this is convincing enough to show that these two coins are related and are ran by the same people.

Really bad choice of words...
I don't know how others feel but when I read that it reminded me of "soylent green".

And your road...seems like you have some competition, like UNECA, ADB , and the African Union, basically....everyone in Africa.

LE:


Seems like their ANN is also bumped by a bumping service, I'll do some reporting over there, the only accounts with some activity (more than 0,lol) can all be grouped in relatively small timeframes by account creation dates.

Zynecoin and ZynecoinSupport are the only official accounts that can speak on behalf of the Zynecoin. zynecoin-fondator is making promises that are dillusional and will NEVER be held by Zynecoin. zynecoin-fondator is undergoing business identity theft on Bitcointalk by using our name.  ???

Again - zynecoin-fondator is NOT we, the Zynecoin, in any way. They are all empty promises NOT being made on our behalf.

We would appreciate it if the Bitcointalk community could help us clear this out by helping us report this account to moderators. Thank you

Then enlighten us why do you have the same whitepaper, the same team, the same projects as the previous coin and decided to drop everything because one of your team was a scammer.

The way usually stuff works in the real world is that you drop the member, not create a different company and rebrand it then try to hide everything by taking info offline.
Bottom line the important thing hasn't changed. The coin, the whitepaper, the project was created by a scammer...and as we know, as the old cock crows so crows the young cock.


So, your main investor is still a scammer and a friend of the other scammers.
Case closed!

And be careful what you wish for when asking about reporting to moderators. I'm pretty sure your topic with all the bot bumps will get nuked pretty soon.  ;D

Incoming zaincoin and zoincoin and zeoycoin...

Karim has never been convicted of being a scammer. He has never taken any money illegally from anyone. He launched a start-up in France that did not end up working well for him and so he had to shut it down, everyone is supposed to at least try. Karim has never been a CEO at Zynecoin and its previous brand. He also isn't our main investor, please do not make assumptions on our behalf that we haven't validated. The rebranding is a decision made upon by the board members. We also haven't asked for bots to join our topic and in which I hope there aren't.

However, I understand your concern and position - but Zynecoin is definitely not a scam.

EDIT: The previous brand, Zeencoin was never a scam. It was simply attacked by a group of people. Conduct your research as you please!  :)

Following the controversy aroused on the forum by some critics obsessively active on this forum, the Zynecoin board has decided to publish the following release to put an end to all these controversies:
 
The famous Zafzafi has accumulated hatred and visceral frustration towards members of the Zynecoin team. He has blackmailed the team and asked for a ransom as well.

This hatred started with vigorous exchanges on social media platforms such as Faceboook about topics that had nothing to do with Zynecoin

The day the first version of the Zeencoin was developed, Zafzafi, commissioned articles from community forums (Maghreb community of France) which were totally defamatory

These forums are:

- The freethinker whose owner is Salim Laïbi, repeatedly condemned by justice (please do your research)
- the Yabiladi forum, whose editor stopped all attacks on the Zeen when he realized that he was being manipulated anonymously

The only truth spread by the hate created is that Karim B was banned from managing a company in France in 2011 for a period of 15 years.
This conviction is in no way criminal, it follows from a normal procedure when an entrepreneur goes bankrupt in France, the French legislation known for being unfavorable towards the entrepreneurs going bankrupt.

The entire Zynecoin team demonstrates its friendship and support for Karim Benabdelkader who found his place in the project at the time of the implementation of the concept because of his humane and professional qualities. In the meantime, he continues to play his influential role with his own community of his own at free will.

Zafzafi was joined by 2 or 3 acolytes who share a common hatred of members of the Zyne team.

I appeal to your intelligence and logical sense.

How do you explain that the scammer Karim Benabdelkader expresses himself openly through an FB account with his name, his photo, his address, while under criminal flee?

Note also that this hate comes from masked faces without revealing their identity.

Regarding the real story between Zeen and Zyne, Karim Benabdelkader was a full member of the Zeen at the time of its conceptual promotion. He never was a CEO or main investor for the project.


The detractors cited above have unleashed their attacks not hesitating to use the meanest means possible.

Parallel to all this we continued to work and to move forward, indeed the team of developers developed a smart contract much more evolved than the previous one, that intended for the ICO, it was decided within the team that to put an end to the sterile polemics that are light years away from the truly innovative reach this project brings to Africa, that Karim Benabdelkader is no longer part of the new board and a full internal/external rebranding took place.

Finally, everyone can see that the pseudo Zafzafi, Zynecoin foundator and others are totally unknown by the crypto ecosystem as ‘newbies’ and only intervene on this forum, as if by chance.
We call on the entire community to focus on the essential, namely, to judge this project through its content and what it offers as a valuation perspective in the coming months.

Spending time answering a frustrated person who, from the back of his room, shares links as ridiculous as this video: https://youtu.be/_6BuEjhYh1k and which at the same time belittles the entire crypto community becomes simply unacceptable.

To answer the question of the new accounts supporting the project, we invite you to go on the etherscan where there are more than 300 investors who mobilize to defend this project which has become theirs and who therefore come on the forum to defend their project. No bots have been assigned from the team to the announcement threads.

These are people who for the most part have invested for the first time in their life in crypto and this is also the originality of the team Zynecoin, by the work and involvement, to have succeeded to convince hundreds of people to join this new world.

In conclusion, judge our project starting from the bottom. Please stop wasting time with profiles only motivated by the destruction and that have nothing to offer except their hatred.

Thank you for your attention

The Zynecoin team

Here is the live google cached of zeencoin: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://zeencoin.io/
Here is the link of Zynecoin: https://web.archive.org/web/20190131205748/https://zynecoin.io/

Both team member same , website template same, whitepaper same and it's clear to me both is same team. They just changed the name and remove KARIM BENABDELKADER,

To be transparent I need to know about KARIM BENABDELKADER and about his existing scam. Please someone provide more details about scam of KARIM BENABDELKADER. I will tag including bounty managers. They are trying to cheat peoples. No doubts both ICO operated by same party.

It's more dubious to me, why are so many newbie account defending them?  


Zeencoin self admitted that they are move on Zyncoin on their Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/zeencoin/).  






So why you have changed project name and removed Karim ? Did you raised money from zeencoin?

Karim B has no active scam and no criminal rulings, he has also been removed during the rebranding (we haven't only removed his name during the rebranding).  We are not trying to cheat people in anyway, please conclude a research. Everything is very transparent, Zeencoin was previously owned and managed by the board members of Zynecoin. Let me know if you have any other questions after you've read the above.


EDIT:
You've shared the proof that the rebranding was a smooth transfer from the private investors and the first community to know of this project.

The rebranding has allowed us to work further on our flapship incubated project, HAYAT aka Hayat Santé. It has allowed us to build a better smart contract, more adapt to our vision and whitepaper. It has also allowed us to bring in new members and advisors to the team. Karim has been removed due to the amount of racial slurs he has received from the community he lives and discusses in. These racial attacks still follow the project to this day.

Zeencoin has undergone a private sale in which they were all notified about the rebranding.

Hello everybody

I m new on bitcoin talk and i just want to post my opinion on the zynecoin because i have invest ion this crypto currencies.

I have well receive my Zynecoin and you k’ow what the stories around Zynecoin are no new

I can’t understand people witch are follow the point of view of some hater very quickly

 i have invest in this project for two things

1) because i believe on the potential of africa and this project
2) because before investing i have speak with some members who are disponible and open

They don’t oblige me to invest and i have invest just what i can.

So you like or don’t like but people could be different from the past to the présent  and today i have invest with my conviction .

Good night to everybody

What "existing scam" are you referring to?
Are the accusations that Zeencoin was a scam based in anything apart from the fact that KARIM BENABDELKADER has a bankruptcy in his personal history?
Who did Zeencoin scam, and how did they do it?

You're such an ass**le dude
the fact that zynecoin is written like zeencoin don't mean it's the same project
i'm not convinced that it's a scam only because of the name.
i know this project and it will be successful
the fact that karim benabdelkader was convicted of fraud does not mean he will scam people again
please mind your own business

Zynecoin is a rebranded version of Zeencoin. Karim was never convicted of fraud and he also isn’t part of the Zynecoin board.

Please avoid the trolling and bring in serious questions and serious concrete statements only.



There are no existing scams. There never will be. We aren’t scamming anyone and we aren’t hiding anything :) Thank you for your well-placed questions

He was not convicted ?
so what is this document referring to?

https://zeencoinhome.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/41073102_263158677655450_6531081485393330176_n.jpg

@zefzafi aka @davidattali
It clearly says that his business was filed for bankruptcy. I don’t read fraud. Karim B is also not part of the Zynecoin board.

It has come to our attention that you have been paying forum users to call us a scam. This is extremely disappointing. Do you mind sharing publicly the reason behind your blackmailing, hatred, and all the nastiness you’ve brought upon us?

I am not paid by anyone to give you a negative feedback on my own zafzafi pointed it out and I have researched it on my own, and it only proves one thing that Zeencoin and Zynecoin is only run by one organization. And if there is someone paying here it is you, I have seen a lot of newbie accounts who just registered here in the forum just to save your ass as well as bump your thread.


At first you are denying any kind of relation from Zeencoin saying that "The project you are mentioning is not related in any way, shape, or form, as well as the name you are mentioning."

Then things got heat up and you admitted you are a "rebranded" version of Zeencoin because of Karim being one of your board member in the past.

You didn't even mention it at first and tried to hide the fact that you are just the same kind of token with the same kind of team. Another thing is if you are really a rebranded token then why did you sent out Zeencoin ERC-20 tokens in the first place. You even have 2 kinds of Zeencoins based on the results I have seen in Etherscan.
Zeencoin # 1 (https://etherscan.io/token/0x4d56c829c185a2526b18bfc3b50dd26454759a8e)
Zeencoin # 2 (https://etherscan.io/token/0xacddb1b4a5527af01ed85c74f43f90ecd1276b8e)
This only tells us that the sale of the token still continued and you have done it to two kinds of Zeencoin sale in the past. So what happened to your investors now? Did they get their money back from the rebranding you are doing now for Zynecoin? Because until now I haven't seen any (ZEEN) in exchanges until now.

Both projects are unrelated, we've explained the rebranding in detail so you may conclude your research for that. There is internal information we'd like to keep internal and in no way were we hiding anything. Our private investors always knew about it and just with a Google search you would be able to tell. The name "Karim" is in no way related to this project as you can tell from your research.


Please do your research. It's not the same token and we've also mentioned that. There was NO ICO for Zeencoin. Only a private sale in which private investors knew what was going on all along the way - in the most transparent way with a newsletter going out every week. I don't understand your attack. If someone was scammed don't you think they would be sharing their experience here or anywhere on the internet? 4 Million tokens have been sold. What is annoying you and pushing you to accuse this project without evidence? Please stop with your accusations and if you'd like to keep going then please bring concrete evidence where Zynecoin has scammed.



This message was not intended to you.. you are getting heated up on it. You weren't accused. Zynecoin is almost the same organization of Zeencoin, but totally different approach. You’re saying it like it’s a scam discovery.. it’s very obvious. We're also not paying for these kind of services either. Please bring concrete factual evidence and stop with your accusations. Thanks.  :)

These are my received PMs from them (posted without asking obviously). I don't have my own outgoing PMs as I rarely save that (but they can post them if they want to; they don't contain any information). tl;dr: Asked them who manages the campaign as someone is guilty (either them, or the service or both of them) of bumping. I also told them to create a thread against them i.e. exposing their bumping stuff (which they rejected in their last PM).

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It's time to start digging into this (likely-scam) service called "BountyMiner". I can barely find a single off-forum "bountyWhatever" platform that didn't turn out to be a shady fraud/scam in one way or another.

Clearly there is a lot of people involve with this as ICOs even the scam ones know who bountyminer is, someone might be sending them pms to offer their services every time a new Ann thread shows up, or worst there is a network and even a TG channel for them that ICO devs only knows off. It seems like the only way catching them is pretending to be a new ICO looking to boost their presence in the forum, this might work as you will be luring in the people who are really involve.

Lol, how easily the so-called investors abandoned the topic once the red tags started falling out of the sky, from two pages a day they are down to 4 in 3 days and those are two made by somebody being pessimistic about the project and the other two by the op.

And of course they didn't know anything about this, it was somebody sabotaging their company.
Probably this guy who they claim was convicted for twenty years and prison but is somehow still able to post ...

The problem I see here is as much as I want to believe in what they are saying they are really not giving any physical evidence on backing up their argument against what I am providing. They mentioned that there was no ICO for Zeencoin but the transactions in Etherscan shows that they made two versions of Zeencoin one under the name "ZEN" and the other one named "ZEEN". There is too much conflicting statements they are giving that at the end you will catch them in the middle of their lie.

Dernière info :  le ZYNECOIN à réussi pleinement son ICO (  2100  personnes    fin Aout 2019 et surement plus de 2500 personnes pour la  fin septembre ) et soulevé des fonds importants pour créer sa propre blockchain . Le ZYNECOIN rentre en cotation le 17 Novembre 2019 à 0.52 dollars eh oui ! Sur une plateforme du top 30 pour ensuite rapidement migrer printemps 2020 sur sa propre plateforme . Le projet WETHIO rencontre un vrai succès aussi pour investir dans des parts de la société Aplinum qui est en charge de créer la blockchain du ZYNECOIN .
Il n'y aura pas plus de 51 000 000 de ZYNECOIN émis , pas un de plus .
Son projet au delà de la création de sa propre plateforme blockchain ( minage révolutionnaire, multiples applications ultra sécurisées ) est de devenir une vraie référence pour toute l'Afrique en crypto et de favoriser les échanges financiers à coût zéro ( Occident-Afrique par exemple ou entre pays africains  ...) , et de trouver des projets d'avenir africains à soutenir ( application SAMU , etc...)  .

Enfin  tous les anciens possesseurs de ZENCOIN à des cours  très bas ont été échangés vers du ZYNECOIN , ils ont fait une affaire .
En bref :

Vive l'avenir enfin avec le ZYNECOIN  ;D ;D



Latest news: The ZYNECOIN managed to reach his son ICO (2100 people at the end of August 2019 and probably more than 2500 people by the end of September) and raised important funds to create his own blockchain. The ZYNECOIN is quoted November 17, 2019 to 0.52 dollars yes! On the platform of the top 30 to then quickly migrate spring 2020 on its own platform. The WETHIO project is a real success also to invest in the parts of the Aplinum company which is responsible for creating the ZYNECOIN blockchain.
There will not be more than 51,000,000 issued ZYNECOIN, not one more.
Its project beyond the creation of its own blockchain platform (revolutionary mining, multiple ultra secure applications) is to become a true reference for all Africa and to promote financial exchanges at zero cost (West Africa for example or between African countries ...), and to find future African projects to support ( application médical urgence , etc ...).

Finally, all the former owners of ZENCOIN were exchanged to ZYNECOIN, they made a deal.
In short:

Long live the future with ZYNECOIN  ;D ;D

Forgot all about this.
I see a classic P&D on the legendary washtrading exchange Bibox.

https://i.imgur.com/fUO65VF.png?1