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There's way to many ICO's that are literally trash. Idk how people invest in some of these projects. It's honestly a joke... The Bittorrent ICO would have been a good one to invest in just because of the hype behind it. If the token goes to $0 in a few months it would still be worth it because people are tripling their investment within a few days (probably not worth buying right now, but do your own research). Those type of ICO's are 1 in 1,000,000. The majority of the ICO's people are investing in are pure garbage. They have no utilitarian uses and they have weak fan-bases. I can't comprehend why people don't wait until POST ICO release, THEN analyze the platform and decide whether or not to invest. Doesn't this sound like the best logical solution? Sometimes even quality ICO's dump and you can pick some up for pennies on the dollar "fire sale".

This was a quality ICO, don't believe me? Look at the chart, strong buy action with low sell pressure and you could have picked some up for dirt cheap and doubled your money within days - https://nauticus.exchange/exchange/BTCAUD

More and more people are getting annoyed with the icos especially due to slow and low last year, most of ico investors from last year are in massive loss and now people want to get rid of all these ico based projects and looking for better alternative and this space may well be filled by security tokens offerings or stos, where the investor becomes a shareholder, part owner and is able to receive profits generating by the project, i think sto model is both more suitable and attractive for investors and next trend seems to be the sto.

They are investing in those garbage icos because they are trying to do what you are describing, they are not interested in the project behind it, the only thing they care is about the possibility of getting profits and about the hype that a coin has and nothing more, the developers of icos have realized that and they understand that they do not really need to create anything to make millions of dollars, the only thing they need to do is to create a marketing campaign and to get people excited about what they are doing and as long as people keep investing in those kind of projects we are still going to have the same problems with icos.

I agree, I think an STO model is better suited for retail investors in this space. You're investing into something that isn't just an "idea".

To the long term investors - yes. Today we have a lot of traders in crypto and they are not interested in long term and in project. They are interested in quick money.

Basically with experiences over the few months
I have come to realize that people invest In ico just for quick profits, but cheap in pre sale
And when it lists, dump on a high
It’s  been a continuous sequence even in 2019

i believe people are now learning their lesson from those icos they participated in last year.
most of them turned out either a scam or a crap one. many of them lost money.
so even if they will not stop creating and launching ico projects, small time investors in particular are not attracted in investing on them anymore.
wait for them in exchanges where you get really dirty cheap prices

Smart investors want to make a profit, so most of them will not buy tokens of a garbage project. Moreover, they are aware of scams that have a beautiful website and look good at first glance.



I also like the ICOs conducted by the teams that create new crypto currency exchanges. Such projects often reach the goal if developers work hard on their software and invest in marketing.

Well hype really works in crypto and we cant do anything about it because their mindset is getting a quick profit by riding the hype. nowadays most of the investor are not for a long term goal and doesn't really care about the project as long as they get some profits.

The Bit torrent ICO is actually a very good project. However a lot of projects have rubbish ICOs and most of them are scam.
I am personally very selective of the ico that are investing because especially in this beer market a lot of icos below token price during the ico stage so for average projects sometimes it is better to buy it on exchange if you feel it is undervalued if it's not and just dumping then you would have dodged a bullet.
Icos are very tricky and you need to be very careful.

First of all, I like your signature. It's just straight. And it reminds me of the big loss I had last year. Talking about ICO, honestly, it's something I won't advice even my enemy to invest in now. Ico projects do not keep to expectations anymore.

ICOs will not stop as long as there are still people buying those coins or tokens. Scammers will try and try again their luck to get quick cash from gullible users. Users should be smart in selecting their projects to invest on.

I made 100% profit from BTT. Have you seen polymath? FYI it's another garbage STO platform. it's received more than 200 millions dollars and this time the marketcap only worth 27 millions dollars and what the heck about that? There was no difference between ico and STO.

Nice title but you should also stop shilling this nauticus exchange.

I think that the launch of new projects will continue for some time, but after that, many companies and fraudulent projects will understand that this is meaningless, because today almost all exchanges conduct a qualitative analysis of any project and they will not take into their trading platform not quality projects.

There are a lot of anomalies now in the ICO industry, but I still believe in the midst of these are at least one or two good ICO and proof of that is the raised funds of good ICO, investors are wiser now they can trace good ICO and those bad ICO are paused or never get funded.

take it easy, the ico market also always adjusts the crypto market. Broadly speaking, when the crypto market rises, the ico will also rise. this industry is interconnected with one another, because the impact of both is also related to the interests of investors.

There is no denying that these days so many Trash ICO appearing, And for the investors that investing in that, i believe that they also doesn't know if the project they invest on is just one kind of garbage project or it even a scam project.

True investor must know when to get out from a project with profit. Especially if we can see some project not really good for long term. Maybe this hype trend still be something that make that investors happy.

So what is the possible alternative thing to do if they stop the ICO? Crypto project need to find first some funds to prolong and develop it's vision and mission through time pass by.

I agree, some ICOs have decided to have MVP (Minimum Viable Product) before doing the sale, so public can get the rough idea of what they are doing.

I would say among 10 ICO, at least 8 tried hard in the 2014 till 2016/2017?

Until the moment when the Ethereum skyrocketed by almost 10,000% it is where everyone wanna laundry money through ICO from the market
Because they see the "hype" in it
This is also why at least 85-90% of project fail because they only wanted to increase the token value, instead of focusing on the real project milestone

I'm proud to be a non ICO investor anymore ,the last one I invested in was iconomi and that was in 2017 ,I prefer to invest in coins or non ICO projects ,ICOs only have advantage when bullrun is happening

There are different people in this world and they are seeing different prjects and support them.
As i see on your post, you are a strong supported of that ICO and you want people to see it great.
But all you need to do is advertise it and explain to people how it is capable for the future and how people will benefit on it.

ICOs is making people lose face really,its not a safe choice for investors anymore but still there will be one in a million ICOs that actually have potential like nauticus and bittorrent ,but STO stands out as the best opinion its more secured and safer for investment I'm sure they will do better

Good for you. ICO does enjoy lot of support in 2017 though, and despite so many scams running that time, investors still put their hard earn money because of the enormous profits to be made in 2017. But in 2018 it's a different story though.

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I mostly agree with what the OP has said, there are literally thousands of scammy ICO out in the market and it's hard to cope and call them up. There's a lot of members in this community who really wanted to help so that those ICO's can't scam anymore, but it's really hard so that best options right now is not to invest on them, simply as that.

Do not make a generalization that all ICO are trash. Some of them are very useful. The truth is that there are dozens of great altcoins far better than BTC. It just happened that BTC comes first or ahead a few years from these altcoins.

Of course, traders are interested in fast money. By and large, they destroy the price of tokens after listing.yes STO is a kind of alternative, but in fact using this type of investment ordinary people will be at the curb.You talk about garbage in ICO. Many useless tokens are possible, but there are still very necessary and promising tokens that are simply necessary for the development of the industry.

If you are comfortable with such project and you wanted to share your thoughts there's no problem with that, express yourself and share things that you think that will benefits the community, we do have different points of view but all of us wanted to have a good investment, we need not to forget doing our own research and be capable enough to place our money into a project that we think that brings good benefits for us.

I think that people invest in all ICOs for the reason that tokens will still grow after the market, despite the weak project!

It's part of a learning process. You send some scammer your life savings only once  ;D
In all honesty, it doesn't look like people would learn from posts on bitcointalk, reddit or whatever. They need to get burned once.
Once we have a community of burned investors, they'll learn how to do research due to necessity.

At the end of 2018, the investment system using ICO-projects discredited itself very much. I hope the introduction of new tokensale standards based on the Security Token Offering (STO) will be able to solve the problems typical for ICO. Especially in recent times, there are more and more projects using STO to raise funds for the development of their projects. It’s enough to explore new projects on the Icobench site.

if we discard all fraudulent projects, other projects also have a right to exist. The fact is that there are really very good and promising ideas, but due to the lack of experience and lack of professionalism of the team, such ideas are very poorly implemented.

I think that today there is an urgent need for us and you to really have real opportunities for a serious growth of trust in the ICO field of activity. Because there are real meanings for this. Therefore, we need generator services.

Even the information about the ICO rating will not guarantee you that you are investing in the best project. Be very cautious all the time and carefully study all the information referring to the team members.
Anyway still there are great project even in this market. Romad for example is doing many things before exchanges.

right, with a large amount of fraud, all ico are considered rubbish, this assumption is wrong because there are still many real ico that can move the market, the market will be quiet if there are no more ico coins that appear in the market

Yes, I like your thoughts. I also do not understand how people continue to invest in projects. I see a lot of information that project tokens are worth nothing. Even as a hunter, I see that one of the 100 projects pays.


I think we all need a new strategy.

I used to be a bounty hunter too, sadly only 1/10 projects I worked on actually paid. The project paid me, then dumped 90% within the first 4 days. It just isn't worth my time to do anymore lol. I completely agree  :o

This seems reasonable on a bear market but you should remember that in 2017 almost every shitcoin was able to shoot after ICO and people were investing in every crappy crowdsale for that reason. Now, the situation has changed and it's time to think before doing something like that :)

Some people are making huge gains from ICOs because the presale discount makes it very attractive. Even if they only make a 10% profit, if they invest one bitcoin they gain 0.1 BTC profit

now what people think about is how to get multiple benefits in a short time regardless of what the ICO actually built.

There is a lot of ICO who are really garbage because I invested to ICO in the year 2018 and only few ICO are successful and most of the percentage that I invested is scam or not successful. I hope this year 2019 don't have a lot of ICO who are trash.

Yes, because there are many factors that influence the decline in confidence in the ICO now, most investors today do not want to invest in the ICO, because there are many ICO fraud cases now, so many ICOs fail even if the ICO is good, but because many ICO fraud cases make ICO is no longer as good as last year.

Well, there were a lot of ICO fraud cases the year before (2017), but back then the market was on a roll and almost anything was profitable. Now, the bill came for that ICO Garbage, some of the lack of trust in crypto is due to them.

It took us a while to learn the lesson but we finally did it and now the developers are desperate to try to get funding for their projects but regardless of their wishes no one is listening to them, we are tired of losing money with useless projects that do not really help the community to move forward, I really hope the developers go back to the roots of the community and release their projects without expecting a huge monetary gain for themselves.

People, unfortunately, desperate to remove their own losses ICO investments are directed. But this sector has become so dirty that investing is no longer a suicide.

Anything will be moving forward and especially with the ico itself. More people will become even smart than before to decide which is best ico. In fact that so many people can't do a proper analyzation to decide which is the best.

Because they still believe that ICO price is the lowest one. If you buy more tokens you will get very big discount and what we see is that ICOs are now mainly funded in private sale than in the public sale.

With how things shown right, investors and traders will learned from that, making them more engage with any project that they will support, the ico business gone wild where scammers really take advantage of people's greed and lack of understanding, but for sure many will be much wiser and will not entertain project like this and will move forward to find the good one that will bring them decent profits.

Yes, indeed there are so many ICOs that really become garbage. currently there is nothing in accordance with what we want, the price of ICO tokens can fall very far when it enters the market. In fact there have been many ICOs that have not paid investors who have invested their money in the ICO project. So it is not surprising if there are many people who want the ICO to be stopped.

we can only analyze and not necessarily our analysis is correct because anything can still happen in cryptocurrency, and now ICO scam is very difficult to distinguish from ICO which is really good because ICO, which has been proven to be a scam at the end of its sales and analysis, cannot distinguish.

Selecting ICO is like finding needle in the pile of hay.
But if you can find the perfect ICO , you will earn more profit that you can earn in ordinary trading.
Not all ICO are garbage but you need more effort to find the perfect ICO !

Apparently projects that will hold their ICO on the site Binance be a good idea to shoot in the listing. Soon ICO Fetch.AI, it will be interesting to see how it goes.

I know many of the ico project became bad image for the majority sight of the community, which is obviously they learned from it already since 2018, though for now this 2019 those ico scam are now lessen anyhow. So all we need to do as an investors and bounty hunters is be careful in choosing the ico project. Do some research and evaluate first before anything else.

Well, you can make it easier. You can invest not in one project but in 15. Anyway, the profit will be very good. it is important to choose 15 correct projects

Most coins already have weak fan base and usually do not also have utilities besides financial speculation, but there is an incredible difference, we can participate in the issue if the coin is PoW or indeed PoW - PoS. It's the funniest part of cryptocurrencies, the ICOs have sadly trashed the understanding of fun by having people try to have fun with schemes, yes, I call it schemesbecause they sell it with the fallacy that if someone buys, they can find someone to buy later, mainly this amount of phases! Many projects can go to the market without trying ICO.

Not all of them are trash. There are still some great projects on the market and people are too lazy to check them before investing in these projects. If everybody would deeply analyse each project, there would be no investors that are feeding scams.

should when the bear market is like this, ico stops first to avoid the fall in the exchange rate which will make them not release their tokens to the market exchange. so no one is disappointed with this situation, this is a very vulnerable situation for ico, especially the new ico.

One topic should not be limited to if you really want to stop all this, that is, the need to start a very large company in all social networks, so that people can hear you. Here it will definitely not be enough.

The very essence of the blockchain allows everyone to create their own ICO, and it is possible to stop the flow of garbage in only one way - to stop participating and support garbage.

I agree that we already got too much trash coin, most of the time the ICO created to scam people, and because crypto is decentralised world, everyone is welcome to create coin, its one of the centralised disadvantages, bittorent ICO maybe could be a good project, alot of people mention the positive things about that ICO, but like OP said sometimes the good ICO also could be failed, its because people are looking for profit not the technology and the features of the coin

You should instead be asking people to stop investing in scams and possibly  guide them to identify scams. Asking people to stop investing atall is dictatorial and very dangerous... Reforms can be made and consensus reached within the community.

I see no reason why it should be banned or discouraged. If they want it be taxed why not? But that is a different matter entirely.

Its a shame what ICOs have become, back in 2016 it was so better than now,excluding the bloodbath condition we've been in for a while investors money are not safe anymore ,the whole ICO thing looks more like a joke now and yet greedy people are investing blindly in all this good for nothing projects ,I can't wait to say goodbye to ICOs for good ,STO on my mind now

I understand what your feeling is about now that we can see that the market is crashing and everything are not falling into places. Always remember that there are always good and bad side of things and dont always look on the bad side. ICO is still a good investment if you choose your ICO wisely. Theres always a scam and theres always the ones who gives you money.

it's true because by not supporting or participating in ICO rubbish it will certainly not work well and certainly will not make investors feel disadvantaged. because there have been a lot of investors who lost their money because they entered ICO garbage

Absolutely it's damn TRUE, ICO projects involved with cryptocurrency market specially some coins value interconnected with ICO investment. ETH is the most effective coin which is every investors choosing as a erc20 token payment gateway. Now eth price too dump so ico projects condition is horrible.

Do you actually think that selecting 15 good projects is easier than selecting just one? Finding a good ico is challenging enough that many people that have been investing in the market for months have yet to do that, in fact I will be surprised if there were 2 or 3 worthwhile projects releasing their icos at the same time, also while diversification is a good idea that is only true if through it you reduce your risk but by choosing so many icos you are only increasing it.

I think that if the market goes even lower, which is more likely, it will naturally be able to clear itself of this large pile of slag. At least I hope so.

I hope we will get one (maybe a small  :D) bull run before the next purge.
Would like to dump some bounty shitcoins that have piled up.

I don't know if the sales id really true I just got into a finish campaign that reached a $2 million soft cap, but after it hit three exchange there are no volumes or buy order on those three exchanges, could be because those exchanges are not popular but 2 million dollars get easily get you into big exchange.

The important point now is the fact that many investors have real experience in studying projects and investors have become much more thoroughly understood. The ability to do this can save us from scam projects which are now very much. The market suffers from this.

They are now spending time to study and analyze projects that they are aiming to join, reading and observing what is the potential and how they will succeed if ever they place their investment, with a lots of coin offering inside ico's it's really needed to take a lots of time working with your knowledge from what the team can bring.

ICO market fully follow the crypto market. Just think before one years, a lot of ICO project got success for the best crypto market. But now-a-days crypto market is really very bad, for this reason a maximum number of ICO getting fail. Investors taking it risky. But hopefully it will be general after some months or more than a year.

Just spend some time by researching the information about any ICO. These several hours of work will help you to understand the project and to identify if it is scam or legit. Furthermore, these hours will save you a lot of money.

While it might be, there are no instant gains on those, or if there is, there will be significant dumps as well. Real world moves slower and crypto people tends to speculate the marketcap that is 20 years ahead. So naturally they will dump when the price don't hold.

Many ICOs hardly want to spend money to list on big exchanges at the end of the ICO. They instead list on low volume exchanges and this in turn usually affect the price of such tokens after listing.

People who invested to those trash ICO's is the ones that who never think first before they invest, they just follow the flow of others thoughts and didn't understand at all what it's all about and obviously they are expecting a high return in a short period of time.

We can't stop if someone really want to start do something bad but people tend to learn over time though, ICO had already got a bad picture in the past year so I don't think those scam bastard will get more profit from others people innocence.

Have you ever thought that ISO has exhausted itself? More precisely, I mean that new projects do not make sense, and there are a lot of scammers. It seems to me that CTA has more potential in the future.

I do not understand why someone who wants to develop a project can not publicly announce it and look for people who will help him. After all, ICO is just an announcement of ideas and a collection of money for its realization.
Bad ideas will not attract investors and in natural way will die. That's all. If someone wants to try, he should have a chance, and no one should limit him in any way.

Seriously, it's getting frustrating now. Lots of projects springing up daily with no real intent or solution for anything. Most of them are only interested in enriching themselves at the detriment of the investors. It is sad to see people falling prey to most of these shams. The worst part is, they keep doing this unchecked and people keep loosing money.

Regulation and  policy formulation is the critical requirement to stop garbage and scam ICO, As the space evolve we can be sure to have a revolution in the space.

So many people are looking for ways in which they too can make their own profit from a moving market. So if the coin is going uptrend, they might want to join the train, not minding if that highest point is the ATH and that it will plunge. I will not say Bittorrent is a garbage, because it has a working product

Why should ICO be garbage? ICO is a good opportunity for investments but of course it's up to you to do your own research and decide for a legit project. OP sounds a little bit pissed because he has not done his research and lost a shitload of moneynow blaming 'the market' or someone else for his wrongdoing.

ICO is good but your success depends how good you are searching a legit project bro.

Though you are right, but the ICO market is not garbage at all. Remember the 2017 year, when the Golden Era of ICO happened! After then, the crypto market started falling down from February 2018 and it is continuing till now, when it is February 2019! Every crypto coins price is sunk enough, as like ICOs market. Every ICOs are not garbage, recently I have known about hygh tech STO and Vanta ICO, they look great and Vanta ICO raised more than 22 Million USD, they all have some big partners. So, overall, ICO market is not garbage at all, just passing a hard time.

Unfortunately, today nothing will help you change the structure of a person. People just can not give up their greed no matter what the situation, so I can only say one thing. Greed will ruin us.

Firstly, I must say that investing in ICO is a big risk, and one must have that in mind before delving in. To reduce the risk, one ought to do thorough due diligence especially on team, product and token economics. You mentioned buying cheap on exchanges  after ICO, not a bad idea but some ICOs ( a few) still do well on exchange.

Investors tend to find that one in a million which will make them rich, that is why they spread funds over lots icos without looking in what they are investing money. It is something like gambling with better odds. Thread looks like clickbait imo.
Why is this project good and others are not?

At this time, even a quality project with an active honest team is hard to keep afloat under the pressure of an unfavorable market. But it is also good for the market, on the example of this ICO dump, we see what is really in demand in the market and what it is not worth investing in.

There are so much ICOs that are worth literally nothing at the moment, but people are still investing good money into them. They just want to get more profit from each single project where they take part and this cannot be stopped.

The bulk of all new projects frankly copy each other for the sole purpose of raising money. And only a few offer real products, which causes discouragement, since it is also difficult for them to find an investor.

Indeed, now there are more and more useless and fraudulent projects, having fulfilled the conditions of which market participants do not receive any profit.
In doing so, they spend valuable time on assignments.
The worst thing is that no one can determine with confidence whether this campaign is deceptive or not.

I do not think big money is invested in worthless projects. Even the number reached is inflated. Nowadays everyone is aware of the situation and knows that investments are risky.

the fact is that, many projects aim to enrich themselves and there are only a few that are really good, and I think our job here is to look for that, although only a few are really good but this shows that not all is bad and that means that we still have the opportunity to generate profits from the ICO

if that will be involving a big risk and you will get a big reward for that. can you buy cheap BTT or FET like the the ico price. Promising platform is always getting more than 5x return from its ico price and it's too risky.

As an investors  you must be strategic and understand  in details what the project has to offer, several ICO garbage coming up this day, several ICO has been over hype, most has nothing to offer, To play safe you can invest in BTC, ETH and Binnace token, HLOD patiently until the market recover.

and most of the time, those with working products or apps can't get their audience. i have seen projects with working app in place but people are ignoring their existence. sometimes, you will think that why on earth is this happening? but those with beautiful graphics with fake team members are getting attention. why? because they know how to sell their empty product and naive users are taking the bait. a real pain in the ass situation.  ::)

bottomline, you need to be intelligent with your investments. do not fall from the trap of these scammers. they can deceive others because no one can stop these ICO projects but be on the lookout for yourself.

Sincerely if not for the greed of many people who want to invest in ICO and cash out huge profits, I don't understand why anybody should give these ICO his hard earned money. I still don't understand the need for ICO if not to reap people of their money. How many of the ICOs have delivered on their roadmap?

I do not think that it is worth starting to invest in ICO, as there are still very few people investing in ICO and still a lot of fraudulent ICO.

There is yet nothing to stop all those projects from lunching. At least, i this year alone, if i am right, i have some across more than two of scam projects.
I advise to do some research on them to discover their ineffectiveness and their attempt to scam their investors and waste the time and effort of bounty participants.

Unfortunately, there is a huge temptation in the market for fraudsters, and therefore the number of garbage ICOs will only increase. In pursuit of quick profits, gullible investors will often suffer losses until tough legal mechanisms are created to prevent fraud in the ICO.

ICO model would be a good one if scam ICOs would not destroy  the trust in them. So many people were
scammed and lost their funds or their investment is worth pennies that I am not surprised at all that the
investments in ICOs decreased significantly.

ICO is the cheapest way to raise funds. Therefore, ICO still exists today. If the ICO is deemed lacking and ICO Developers want something more so that the ICO is successful, an ICO can hold an IEO. Through cooperation with Exchangers. Which of course ICO Developers need to spend more money, to pay for the IEO place on the exchanger.

It sounds to me that you are promoting another ICO whereas your original aim is to warn people against participating in ICOs. Then you have no genuine point with your post.

I think ICOs will still exist despite IEOs more coming. Many developers team trust on ICOs is good way because they believe on their own project. But IEOs is more interesting than ICOs these days because promising big profits when start traded in market

Last year is bad year for ICO investor. There is many scam ICOs in 2018 and many investor lossing their money. I am agree if government regulation needed to regulate ICOs because its about investor money safety, if scam ICOs continue, its bad for crypto industry

Hype is not necessarily what defines a good token sale although it does generally result in greater demand from retail investors which is very important for liquidity, but this shouldn't be your only reason for investing, however, much of the attention is now focused on the new wave of IEOs which can offer better quality products so just make sure you determine which startups actually have a real world use case, a decent marketing strategy and a sustainable ecosystem before you invest

Now is a difficult time in the crypto space and in order to buy coins of the project you need to be very smart, cunning and careful. Smart - need in-depth analysis and study of the project, cunning - do not succumb to advertising gimmicks, you should think with your head, careful to personally communicate with the organizers of the project in which you want to invest.

I also do not recommend investing in ICOs. But of late I have realized that there are such projects that have unique vision, strong team and investing in them through ICO will be a big opportunity for investors. So I have started investing through ICOs nowadays. But there should be only good ICOs. So I want to ask investors to go through the projects before investing. As far as the ICO you have mentioned, I do not know about it much. I will definitely check it.

The bear market helped the industry to clean off from the ICOs hype and all that garbage, now the exchanges will take care of due diligence projects and putting them on IEO

only few ICO that could give their investors profits.most of them was shit projects that no usage at all.they just want to collect money and after that their planned exit scam after listing in exchanges.personally i am prefer investing in binance IEO.

For now, most ICOs are not like 2017, so investors have been very lazy to buy at the ICO, and at the moment the IEO is the best way to invest. Because the IEO is safer and more profitable.

The crypto market in 2018 became ugly and ICOS projects became deadly. On the other hand, ICOS projects scrambled to view campaigns that made investors afraid of ICOS. they are gradually moving to a new form of IEO investment. I also think whether ICOS can continue to live when there are too many problems to solve.

They are absolutely ruining the image of crypto and even affecting legit's ICO program making them down also. And so we can't blame investors not to trust with ICO easily as they'll have bad experience in previous year. As we have this IEO system, they'll might a huge changes of investors look's towards crypto and putting back their trust again, and to try how's profitable they are than of ICO.

nowadays, ICO used to be tools for cheating people, we need something new rather than traditional ICO, i think solutions is IEO.

Thats why you always need to make a good investigation of each project, because there are too much fraud projects on the market. However, the numbers of scam projects science the last several months are decreasing.

Investors are doing it now, they prefer to invest when the coin hit the market than waiting for months with uncertainty, this is why so many ICO cannot reach the soft cap, even if the project is very good because they think that ICO sellers and bounty hunters will dump the coin when it the market.

The IEO itself is not one of the advantages or solutions because basically the transparency is also unclear about the IEO between the exchange and the Team. in my opinion the IEO can also be a trend

You should have already noticed that cryptocurrencies really fall in price and if you can make a correct conclusion regarding the current situation, then I think that ICO processes are already very outdated, control is needed.

it is true that now more and more ico is trash and makes investors sick, many projects that are originating "without purpose / quality of poor technology development make ico's image worse

We're legally registered as ICO, but we are technically an IEO

but not everything is bad and we can still get opportunities, so if we can research and choose the right one so the project can run well.

indeed the ICO is currently unknown and many are trapped there so many people are defeated so they don't want to start there again.

I guess we often use garbage on describing ICOs but for me it ain't trash just so happened that we are not observant enough to know what the scam to legit project and I'm only thinking of one big factor, most of the people on the industry just came for the money, that's all and that is also the reason why most of the developers scam because of greediness from the investors.

Charts actually prove nothing. Why so?
Many of little volume exchanges use fake volume to make it like has huge trade and volume to attract more users to join their platfroms. These were spoken many time by people. Do you think these fake volumes is possible to be happened on the platform you noticed above?

Are you kidding me? he was mentioning that platform so many times and this is a kind advertisement thread only. Any exchange site has the possibility to manipulated its own volume because they are called a centralized exchange site.

There are great ICO's and also weak ICO's. This is the reality we need to face with cryptocurrency. That's why every ICO investor should perform due diligence before investing to avoid those weak projects. On the other hand, there were strong ICO's that failed last year due to the fact that they were dragged down by the bearish condition of the market. Now, with the market starting to show good signs, great ICO's will mostly like have a good year.

I believe the condition of altcoin will surely possible. But the first step would be making sure that the Garbage ICO were securely manage.
So as long as we could manage.

ICOs have lost much trust and money in investors so they no longer trust it. Therefore, with the current trend, IEO is a trend for them to stabilize and aim for long-term goals. I have just checked your project and found that it is still facing many difficulties. I think this project should have a lot of good partners and better community development.

you're right. but market earnings are a very important factor. After all, cryptocurrency is an investment tool. and people come to make money. this is normal.

It is no longer news that the ICO era is almost over. Whatever garbage anyone decides to throw in now does not matter anymore as people are already resolute to do away with the ICOs.

indeed for now in investments such as ICO or others do not use the Hype condition wrong because if we buy it when the hype fades you feel only defeat and losses that might be enough in 10-30% so to invest in ICO it is better to buy at the time of hype it just appeared so that the moment that was obtained was not wrong

Lol seems you are more concerned about the monetary aspect than not  the projects are actually seek to offer
If everyone waits for post ICO release who then will invest during the crowdsale?

ICOs are having hard time this year and many of them fail to reach the soft cap. Market situation is also against them, but generally investors lost faith in them as they are not producing good ROI anymore and lot out of  them are scam projects.

Truly, Enough of the ICO garbage! Most of them out there are complete rip offs and let downs giving crypto a really bad name. I have always been of the opinion that a project has to be vetted and certified okay before they are permitted to float an ICO. Unfortunately, this can only happen with regulations in place and that isn't happening any time soon.

People are intend to invest on a new project because of the hype even without proper research about the project or the product itself, they just want to make a quick profit because they believe that if they invest like other people then they can gain like them.

Bittorent wasn't a typical ICO, it was an IEO in the Binance launchpad! Binance name is enough to make a big hype for any kind of project. Therefore, BitTorrent is a known and popular name, and its token sale was offered in Binance! So, a big hype created automatically! But 80% of ICO projects are garbage, some of them are scam or shit. IEO sale is doing well right now but IEO is not safe in every exchange, you may go only in top tier exchange like Binance, Bittrex, huobi, otherwise, IEO will become garbage too.

Of course ICO  will still be existing but if care is not taken, they will only exist and be the investors themselves because no investors would be available to participate in the ICO project, so before it becomes too late, most of these Good ICO too needs to come together and create a body that will oversee all ICO projects and get rid of all these Scam and Bad ICOs, at least creating a body doesn’t mean they are strictly under the control of government, it would just be more of like an association.

We might think this is not possible to coordinate because we have so many ICOs in different parts of the world but how is STO able to do it? STO projects are from different parts of the world too but still to be controlled by SEC. SO all genuine developers must put their difference aside and see how they can work towards perfection if they want to continue their relationship with investors.

you need to find some ways to control the creation of a new project. That is what will give real opportunities for the development of really promising projects and will attract better investors' funds to the company's ico market.

In adverse market conditions, we see dumps of useless and fraudulent ICOs in which it is very difficult to find quality projects with an active, honest team for investing. And for this you need to carefully select projects for participation.

In my opinion, calling ICOs garbage is kinda unacceptable in a bull market but you can call whatever you want due to obvious reasons. ICOs don't perform good in the bear market and rewards are decreased with huge percentages.

Apparently, newcomers in the cryptocurrency sphere continue to invest in the garbage ICO projects. And these newbies have only recently learned about such a "promising" way of investing their money. Traders and investors involved in cryptocurrency operations for several years are unlikely to continue to invest in ICOs, knowing that their funds are likely to be 10 times cheaper.

Then who told you icos are not gabbage??

Even the recently ieos crowdfunding pattern is more gabbage and do I figure why ?
Because no matter what; the tokens will end up trading below Ico or ieo price

So what’s your argument about ??

ICO does not attract investors as the reason why many ICO projects failed. I think most of the current projects are very risky and we face many problems related to our assets. Instead of investing ICO you should choose to invest in the IEO because it will help us a lot and get the best liquidity.

I agree that there are too many ICOs that are trash. When I visit the Announcements subforum, I can't help but be taken aback by the abundance of no-name cryptocurrency projects and people contributing to these threads. Even if these projects are offering bounties, I can't help but think even the tokens they are offering likely have no value, especially in this market.

Many ICOs are called Trash, because many have tarnished the projects and then cheated customers, bounty hunters and investors, this has allowed investors to not trust ICO anymore, where their developers and equipment lend themselves to take the money away from them. people.

Now there are many alternatives, the STOs have been created which, guarantees to many investors to have more security and confidence in front of the projects, this is beneficial for all because the market capitalization increases.

Recently, I caught myself thinking that I had stopped studying the forum in search of new interesting ICOs. For a long time I could not understand why I lost interest in this process. As a result, I came to the conclusion that a bunch of crap projects and scammers killed my interest in new projects.
Now I invest only in those projects that have a good reputation and have long traded on good exchanges.

Many ICOs fail when they enter tokens on the market so they get very low prices, if so how can the team return prices when the market has a small volume? we see many new markets introducing bad tokens so they don't bring these tokens to high but still volume and community prices that we need to increase prices on the market.

In order to clean up the ICO market from fraudulent projects, a regulatory body, such as the SEC, is needed. At the moment, the market is not controlled by anyone and, accordingly, fraud collects large funds and destroys investor confidence in the cryptocurrency market.

Just everyone remembers the huge revenues of 2017, when almost any ICO multiplied investments at XXX!